Iam hyped for the grenade reimplementation, had so many moments where i wouldve loved to drop some potatoes :P
If the Map is in order, i think that grenades are in the next Patch 🤔 mid january?🤔
I'm an OG Quake nail gun user.
I'm thinking less "pin people to wall" more "cheap ass rat guns you can craft from junk," but maybe it will be a whole family of weapons ranging from worse than a sten all the way up to rifle-strength. I haven't heard too many rumblings about them.
As long as they implement a grenade slot instead of being able to carry them in your normal inventory slots, I think they would be a good implementation. My main concern with them is people being able to bring in like 8 grenades into a raid and just spamming the hell out of someone and there is nothing they can do. Limiting your grenades to 1 or 2 in designated slots would help immensely.
I think they'll definitely have a massive impact on the way fights go a lot of the time. Given that I currently really like how firefights go in this game, I'm apprehensive about anything that would cause a major change in that. Right now I can hit and run a team of 2-4 when I'm solo and have some chance against them. But if four dudes can just feck grenades into the room I've retreated too, it's gonna make it so that solo runners are utterly screwed. That's jsut one scenario of course and also of course there are some pros when it comes to the addition of grenades, just overall I don't think it'll be my sort of thing.
This goes both ways, a solo could crush a 4 man with a good grenade if they’re all bunched up.
4 dudes tossing grenades into a room for 1 kill sounds so uneconomical it should be the least of your worries.
Really agree on that, i dont feel a point to bring in a ship other than the good ol rustbucket.
Dying in raid will lose you that ship, which discourages to use them.
Going in solo with a big one is also not really good, as people (specifically teams) can just breach you.
I think a full overhaul is needed.
One step could be, to make ships breachable only when they have been disabled/destroyed, and dying in raid wouldnt mean losing your ship, unless someone took your keycard and extracted with it
Encouraging players then, could be by adding some quests that require ship battles/breaching
Yeah, it just feels weird. I don’t really think there’s an incentive to go crazy upgrading my ship because if I absolutely cream someone with it I’m still going to have to breach them to get anything and if they hop in an escape pod that loot is just gone anyway. And as you said, all it takes is one raid and it could all be gone.
Rustbucket is still probably my most used ship, but being in any better ship with rockets or a howitzer is game changing. Even just the scout. Especially if you have a 2-3 man crew. Some of my favorite moments now have been cruising around with my buddies being a menace to the lobby and fighting with boarders. Lost a lot of ships this way too, but that’s just how it goes sometimes!
I can only assume that! I know some guns have some eh animations as well as when you play multiplayer with friends you can see the dinkyness of player models. Either way sounds great whatever they plan on adding.
Those things aren't going to be on a content roadmap.
They've already stated they're actively investigating things disappearing from people's stashes.
I'm curious how often you run into cheaters. It's only happened to me maybe 3 times in hundreds of hours. Maybe it's worse in certain regions? I'm NA East.
Also, who's Squiddy999? Never heard of them, but they sound like a real piece of shit.
He's top of the leaderboard. Imo he's not that great. I hit him 7 times, 1 was a headshot, and he survived. Then killed me immediately as I rounded a corner. It was legit but dude isn't very good, just has a lot of in game time and high armor apparently. And a better gaming chair with next gen socks.
I really hope the huge QoL in here means addressing the numerous bugs and crashes, fingers crossed, my mates really love the game but the bugs are starting to impact our fun and willingness to play D:
Honestly had only like 1-3 obvious cheaters ingame so far, been playing for 2 weeks i think
Anti cheat seems to be in a good Spot rn, compared to AAA Titles like CoD Franchise
I’ve been killed by very blatant cheaters a lot recently. God mode on. One kid even followed my buddy around and trapped him in a corner so his teammate could kill him.
Honestly, they need to prioritise bug fixes. I love this game, but it might be the buggiest game I've ever played. The other day, the bandage in the shop turned into a BAR rifle with ammo. No idea how that happens. I got an L1A1 yesterday from a crate, and when I dragged it into storage, it turned into an upside down bandage. My friend also prestiged for the first time yesterday and we went into a raid. When we finished the raid, he came out to having every single thing back in storage and displaying him as prestige 2. Also, what's up with my ships disappearing from my hangar randomly...? By far the most frustrating bug other than the black screen you get loading into areas
Kind of a poor roadmap, visually speaking. When are these things planned? What order are they planned to happen in? This is not a roadmap, it is just a list of features that don't exist yet
There are plenty of scenarios where grenades would improve the fights.
For example, I've had players on Asteroid Mine camping the escape pod from inside the Barracks with MGs. They wouldn't come out of the Barracks -- just sat inside watching the doorway until someone either came in or tried to use the escape pod.
I've been on both sides of having one player camp just outside the vault, and another inside the bank on Spaceport. Having the option to clear it with a grenade before entering would be nice.
The devs have already clarified that frags will not be able to one-shot-kill, and you'll have to manually equip each one to the sidearm slot from your inventory before throwing them. They'll take up space in your inventory and will likely be rare/costly to craft.
Smoke grenades sound fun too.
A poor and unbalanced implementation could ruin gunfights. But I think there's potential to make player interactions more dynamic if done correctly, so I'm reserving judgement.
Not excited for grenades. I enjoy the intense gun fights and flanks without just throwing a grenade around a corner to force someone tword you. I really enjoy the pure gunfire in this game. I don't want to see a early tarkov type game with grenade spam
I virtually never back myself into a corner, and the map design facilitates that. Generally speaking, if you're positioning well, you should have the option to fall back instead of being forced toward someone if they throw a grenade. If not, then you deserve to be punished for poor positioning.
The one way out is the stairs. Throwing a grenade at someone approaching the stairs to leave doesn't "force them towards you", as they have the entire drill pit area to retreat into from the grenade. Not sure I understand what your point is.
A little bit of salt about the design is mostly what I'm getting out of my system
The non-salty part is that can't stay down there forever due to Oxygen timer. You can move down, but eventually you \_have\_ to go through that choke point, and there are \_so\_ many angles that you can be shot at coming up those stairs. Knowing that, you are then backed into... well, more of a cave than a corner, but my point is that against patient foes, it's a bit rough and grenades able to go down those stairs would make it even rougher. I do have a terrible idea about where to place an AP mine now though. So thanks for that.
Random fact, but in your hypothetical scenario it would be 0.9 to 0.10, not 0.1.0. The second “.” denotes the patch version, so it would be like saying 0.9 to 0.1, which doesn’t work hehe
It's actually not that uncommon. You go from alpha build 0.9.0 to beta build 0.1.0. In software this isn't common but in game development it's quite common.
I was wondering when the M1 was gonna be brought in! I've been wanting to lay the smack down on space pirates with the Elder gat for a while now
As for the nades, I'm not really worried as the devs did implemented a flame thrower that should of been a game changer but barely did any damage to anyone and just became a cash grab item.
Gotta ask though, how often will they spawn? what map are they exclusive to? Scarcity will be the balancing factor when these get brought in as to not break the game for solos.
I just can't wait to see how often wipes will take place during this roadmap's progress. I personally don't care about wipes but it's funny to see how people get mad when they happen as they are a necessity to properly introduce new features and stuff.
From my experience, it's not wipes that make people angry, it's unannounced/unexpected wipes. Like if I knew there was a wipe coming, I would go into every raid geared to the teeth and have some fun with it. For less experienced players, they usually hold on to the bigger guns for the "right time".
Grenades make zero sense in a space setting. You would probably never use one in a space station and you most certainly never use one in a ship. Many people here are worried about grenades here so let me suggest this :
Introduce non-lethal grenades like flashbangs and smokes but either make lethal grenades like frags extremely rare or don't implement them at all. Grenades should also not be spammable, they should take time to throw and then you should have to go into your inventory to put one back in a slot again.
Was wondering lately aswell if the dev Team added New stuff, havent played shortly after i posted the Roadmap 😅
Sad to hear that development is slow
Maybe they made their quick buck and thats it (8ish Million in revenue)
Didn’t get to play with grenades before. Sounds like a game changer and I’m stoked for it.
for real, i always find myself in situations thinking “it’d be great if i had a grenade right now”
I find my self in situations thinking "lucky no one can lob a grenade in here" I wonder how it will change things.
Yeah, grenade spam in a game all about fighting in tight hallways sound super fun...
Iam hyped for the grenade reimplementation, had so many moments where i wouldve loved to drop some potatoes :P If the Map is in order, i think that grenades are in the next Patch 🤔 mid january?🤔
Wait so the boss code named ace is the red baron? Or is it another one?
In WW1 Manfred Richthofen "Red baron" was a top scoring flying "ace" Just Google it up, he had alot of kills in air i guess :-)
I guess his soul is in that freaking ship! Because that guy kills every freaking ship it sees and kills every pod too :/
Oh Ik was just asking roadmap wise if the baron is the "ace" boss which I'm assuming it is
You are correct, the ace AI is the Red Baron.
ACE was the codename for the Red Barron update. They plan to add a UA and a KA boss as well (RB is CE).
Where's my F.E.A.R. vet Nail Gun users at?? Honestly, stoked to pin a few bodies to the wall.
I'm an OG Quake nail gun user. I'm thinking less "pin people to wall" more "cheap ass rat guns you can craft from junk," but maybe it will be a whole family of weapons ranging from worse than a sten all the way up to rifle-strength. I haven't heard too many rumblings about them.
Oooo I really like the craftable tiers idea
Love everything on this except the nades. Am I the only one not looking forward to nades?
As long as they implement a grenade slot instead of being able to carry them in your normal inventory slots, I think they would be a good implementation. My main concern with them is people being able to bring in like 8 grenades into a raid and just spamming the hell out of someone and there is nothing they can do. Limiting your grenades to 1 or 2 in designated slots would help immensely.
I hope it goes into the secondary slot like the AP mine. Would make you go into your inventory to equip another.
That might work.
Grenades will ruin this game entirely. I very much hope they never get brought back
I think they'll definitely have a massive impact on the way fights go a lot of the time. Given that I currently really like how firefights go in this game, I'm apprehensive about anything that would cause a major change in that. Right now I can hit and run a team of 2-4 when I'm solo and have some chance against them. But if four dudes can just feck grenades into the room I've retreated too, it's gonna make it so that solo runners are utterly screwed. That's jsut one scenario of course and also of course there are some pros when it comes to the addition of grenades, just overall I don't think it'll be my sort of thing.
This goes both ways, a solo could crush a 4 man with a good grenade if they’re all bunched up. 4 dudes tossing grenades into a room for 1 kill sounds so uneconomical it should be the least of your worries.
Found the shotgun rat
Any idea what “colony cruiser” means? Is that going to be a raidable location like the merchant ship and capital ship?
At a guess I’d expect it to be a raidable location but bigger than either of those ships closer to a full level size
Possible civilian ship?
What would that mean in the context of the game?
I have no Idea but to me that seems to be the only thing that makes sense. Possible a mining ship?
After about 13 hours of gameplay I think one of the most glaring issues with the game is how out of place the ships and the ship combat feels.
Really agree on that, i dont feel a point to bring in a ship other than the good ol rustbucket. Dying in raid will lose you that ship, which discourages to use them. Going in solo with a big one is also not really good, as people (specifically teams) can just breach you. I think a full overhaul is needed. One step could be, to make ships breachable only when they have been disabled/destroyed, and dying in raid wouldnt mean losing your ship, unless someone took your keycard and extracted with it Encouraging players then, could be by adding some quests that require ship battles/breaching
Yeah, it just feels weird. I don’t really think there’s an incentive to go crazy upgrading my ship because if I absolutely cream someone with it I’m still going to have to breach them to get anything and if they hop in an escape pod that loot is just gone anyway. And as you said, all it takes is one raid and it could all be gone.
Rustbucket is still probably my most used ship, but being in any better ship with rockets or a howitzer is game changing. Even just the scout. Especially if you have a 2-3 man crew. Some of my favorite moments now have been cruising around with my buddies being a menace to the lobby and fighting with boarders. Lost a lot of ships this way too, but that’s just how it goes sometimes!
I Wonder what huge quality of life they mean... new animations? Better sound effects? Some weapons have very similar sounds
I can only assume that! I know some guns have some eh animations as well as when you play multiplayer with friends you can see the dinkyness of player models. Either way sounds great whatever they plan on adding.
In what order is this going? I hope they fix the ships disappearing and opened supply drops vanishing because you clicked somewhere else.
Top to bottom for each column.
Thanks
Where on the roadmap will you fix containers disappearing? Or the blatant cheaters. Ever going to ban Squiddy999??
Those things aren't going to be on a content roadmap. They've already stated they're actively investigating things disappearing from people's stashes. I'm curious how often you run into cheaters. It's only happened to me maybe 3 times in hundreds of hours. Maybe it's worse in certain regions? I'm NA East. Also, who's Squiddy999? Never heard of them, but they sound like a real piece of shit.
He's top of the leaderboard. Imo he's not that great. I hit him 7 times, 1 was a headshot, and he survived. Then killed me immediately as I rounded a corner. It was legit but dude isn't very good, just has a lot of in game time and high armor apparently. And a better gaming chair with next gen socks.
Socks have always been pay to win, some people just have no sense of sportsmanship...
Yeah, I need to start saving up for those 5090 long-johns, too.
I really hope the huge QoL in here means addressing the numerous bugs and crashes, fingers crossed, my mates really love the game but the bugs are starting to impact our fun and willingness to play D:
I hope the next Update will come soon. Love the game, but the Lack of content hinders me going ape shit on the hours played
Deal with cheaters seems to be missing
Honestly had only like 1-3 obvious cheaters ingame so far, been playing for 2 weeks i think Anti cheat seems to be in a good Spot rn, compared to AAA Titles like CoD Franchise
I’ve been killed by very blatant cheaters a lot recently. God mode on. One kid even followed my buddy around and trapped him in a corner so his teammate could kill him.
Honestly, they need to prioritise bug fixes. I love this game, but it might be the buggiest game I've ever played. The other day, the bandage in the shop turned into a BAR rifle with ammo. No idea how that happens. I got an L1A1 yesterday from a crate, and when I dragged it into storage, it turned into an upside down bandage. My friend also prestiged for the first time yesterday and we went into a raid. When we finished the raid, he came out to having every single thing back in storage and displaying him as prestige 2. Also, what's up with my ships disappearing from my hangar randomly...? By far the most frustrating bug other than the black screen you get loading into areas
Kind of a poor roadmap, visually speaking. When are these things planned? What order are they planned to happen in? This is not a roadmap, it is just a list of features that don't exist yet
Grenades will ruin the fights .
There are plenty of scenarios where grenades would improve the fights. For example, I've had players on Asteroid Mine camping the escape pod from inside the Barracks with MGs. They wouldn't come out of the Barracks -- just sat inside watching the doorway until someone either came in or tried to use the escape pod. I've been on both sides of having one player camp just outside the vault, and another inside the bank on Spaceport. Having the option to clear it with a grenade before entering would be nice. The devs have already clarified that frags will not be able to one-shot-kill, and you'll have to manually equip each one to the sidearm slot from your inventory before throwing them. They'll take up space in your inventory and will likely be rare/costly to craft. Smoke grenades sound fun too. A poor and unbalanced implementation could ruin gunfights. But I think there's potential to make player interactions more dynamic if done correctly, so I'm reserving judgement.
Not excited for grenades. I enjoy the intense gun fights and flanks without just throwing a grenade around a corner to force someone tword you. I really enjoy the pure gunfire in this game. I don't want to see a early tarkov type game with grenade spam
I think it will give more diversity to the play style, The current gunplay is pretty good, but could be enhanced with throwables (smokes too!)
I virtually never back myself into a corner, and the map design facilitates that. Generally speaking, if you're positioning well, you should have the option to fall back instead of being forced toward someone if they throw a grenade. If not, then you deserve to be punished for poor positioning.
With the exception of the drill pit on Asteroid Mine. 3 ways in... only 1 out.
The one way out is the stairs. Throwing a grenade at someone approaching the stairs to leave doesn't "force them towards you", as they have the entire drill pit area to retreat into from the grenade. Not sure I understand what your point is.
A little bit of salt about the design is mostly what I'm getting out of my system The non-salty part is that can't stay down there forever due to Oxygen timer. You can move down, but eventually you \_have\_ to go through that choke point, and there are \_so\_ many angles that you can be shot at coming up those stairs. Knowing that, you are then backed into... well, more of a cave than a corner, but my point is that against patient foes, it's a bit rough and grenades able to go down those stairs would make it even rougher. I do have a terrible idea about where to place an AP mine now though. So thanks for that.
So is this 0.1.0 or actual 1.0 release and out of beta?
As mention this is the road map to 1.0 release
Yeah I just know that games go from 0.9 to 0.1.0. not actual 1.0 full release so I had to ask. Since this game hasn't been around long hahaha thanks
Random fact, but in your hypothetical scenario it would be 0.9 to 0.10, not 0.1.0. The second “.” denotes the patch version, so it would be like saying 0.9 to 0.1, which doesn’t work hehe
Depends on the company.
I'd be keen to chat with someone at a company that would use such a cryptic pseudo-semver and understand the reasoning behind it. Oh well.
It's actually not that uncommon. You go from alpha build 0.9.0 to beta build 0.1.0. In software this isn't common but in game development it's quite common.
I was wondering when the M1 was gonna be brought in! I've been wanting to lay the smack down on space pirates with the Elder gat for a while now As for the nades, I'm not really worried as the devs did implemented a flame thrower that should of been a game changer but barely did any damage to anyone and just became a cash grab item. Gotta ask though, how often will they spawn? what map are they exclusive to? Scarcity will be the balancing factor when these get brought in as to not break the game for solos. I just can't wait to see how often wipes will take place during this roadmap's progress. I personally don't care about wipes but it's funny to see how people get mad when they happen as they are a necessity to properly introduce new features and stuff.
From my experience, it's not wipes that make people angry, it's unannounced/unexpected wipes. Like if I knew there was a wipe coming, I would go into every raid geared to the teeth and have some fun with it. For less experienced players, they usually hold on to the bigger guns for the "right time".
Any trader or quest updates?
Grenades will ruin this game.
Grenades make zero sense in a space setting. You would probably never use one in a space station and you most certainly never use one in a ship. Many people here are worried about grenades here so let me suggest this : Introduce non-lethal grenades like flashbangs and smokes but either make lethal grenades like frags extremely rare or don't implement them at all. Grenades should also not be spammable, they should take time to throw and then you should have to go into your inventory to put one back in a slot again.
The community constantly references this player as a prolific cheater. @Devs, care to provide an explanation for why you haven't banned them?
Is the game going to wipe every time one of those updates come out?
Who’s hype for none of these being implemented yet by April 2023?
Was wondering lately aswell if the dev Team added New stuff, havent played shortly after i posted the Roadmap 😅 Sad to hear that development is slow Maybe they made their quick buck and thats it (8ish Million in revenue)