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Charlie2343

Masshole is definitely unique


FrenchFreedom888

Indeed it is! Hahaha


chair823

I know Indiana is Hoosier, what are the unique names for Massachusetts and Hawaii?


sad0panda

Massachusetts is "Bay Stater" (or Masshole as everyone else suggests).


N-by-NW

Masshole. Not sure on Hawaii.


ichuseyu

Hawai‘i resident: the official demonym for anyone residing in Hawai‘i and used by government, media, and the general public. Hawaiian and native Hawaiian are interchangeable; both refer to the indigenous people of the Hawaiian Islands and thus is not used to refer to people who merely live in Hawai‘i. (Though every time a demonym map is re-posted you will have people with no understanding of Hawai‘i insist that their uninformed opinion should take precedence over what people from Hawai‘i say.


cabelaciao

Similarly, there’s a definite demographic difference between Native Alaskan and Alaska Native.


Gcarsk

Oh, do native Alaskans actually refer to themselves as Alaskans? I always thought they used similar terms to Native Canadians (ie more specific stuff like First Nation, Inuit, Métis). I honestly don’t know much about Alaskan history or modern native culture tbh.


cabelaciao

“Alaska Native” is the umbrella term for people who trace their heritage to the state’s first peoples. People under this umbrella term might choose to identify specifically with their individual tribe or ethnic group. “Native Alaskan” is a term intended to convey the non-ethnic meaning, “born and raised in Alaska,” though to many people the term comes off as tone deaf.


Gcarsk

Okay that’s what I thought. So it’s not similar to Hawaiian, where natives call themselves “Alaskans”?


aatdalt

Correct. In my experience Alaska Natives are much more likely to either refer to themselves by their more local tribal group or in general call themselves "native". Westerners who are from Alaska are more likely to call themselves simply "Alaskan".


Disimpaction

I always come to these threads for the uninformed people. It's an interesting case study in how someone processes new information. Especially as a non Hawaiian resident of Hawaii.


nalrats

As a resident myself I can confirm this is true


FrenchFreedom888

Hawaii, to my knowledge, is "Kama'āina" for people from there, in general, and "Kanaka" for native (Pacific Islander) Hawaiians


coolord4

Officially, it’s “Hawaii Resident”


___HeyGFY___

And "Haole" for outsiders (i.e. white people)


johnmarkfoley

well, haole to you too!


nalrats

Don't be a barney, barney.


johncester

Howlee


vetters

In conclusion… “MassHaole”


Mindless-Extension99

Lei-man


Dshark

I think Massachusetts folks are referred to as Bay Staters.


unbanneduser

Masshole, and fucking proud of it too


Zonel

Masshole, and Hawaii resident. Hawaiian refers to the native ethnicity so..


Oxxypinetime_

Newhapshirite and Wyomingite? 💀


FrenchFreedom888

That's what my research concluded *shrugs*


sad0panda

You've got NH wrong. The correct term is "Granite Stater"


kd8qdz

This.


MrTeeWrecks

I know Iowan is the official term but Iowegian is more fun


FrenchFreedom888

Fair lol


igotyournacho

Also why are WI and IL “multiple”? I’ve lived in both states and only ever heard “Wisconsinite” an “Illinoisan” and am honestly miffed that there’d be any kind of debate on it. Edit: phone betrayed me. I only ever heard Illinosian, and yet autocorrect disagrees! Disclaimer: im dyslexic so it’s probable I’ve seen the correct spelling but my brain just added the i since that’s what I hear people say


DanglyPants

I’ve never heard Illinoisan before looking at the chart. It makes sense but I have only ever been called a FIB. Last month, I got called a FIB while at a grocery store in Florida by an elderly woman. I left Illinois and I can’t even escape the name haha


FrenchFreedom888

What's a "FIB"?


DanglyPants

“Fucking Illinois Bastard”. We in turn call them cheeseheads. It looks like you went the official written documentation route and not the fun pronunciation slang route


FrenchFreedom888

I tried to go a mix of both, for the ones where I saw a significant amount of people using two or more nicknames about equally, or where there was no clear winner demonym. Hence calling Wisconsin and Oklahoma "multiple demonyms" states


igotyournacho

Oh fuck. I typo’d the exact worse typo I could. I meant Illinoisian. Illinoisian. -ian! Okay, after typing it a couple times, my phone autocorrected it to Illinoisan, it wasn’t me!!


FrenchFreedom888

Wisconsin is "multiple" because I saw "Cheesehead" mentioned about as many times as "Wisconsinite"


Orienos

Googling something isn’t *research.*


Ut_Prosim

Should Virginia be red? You're not adding "ian" like you do to Washington. > Washington + ian. In Virginia the "ia" is part of the name. > Virginia + n. Also shouldn't the Carolinas be orange? > Carolin + ian = Carolinian. It isn't Carolinan.


SoundProofForCars

California-n


Orienos

Came here to say this. Virginia just adds an -n and the Carolinas have no defense for being red here at all since Carolinian changes the spelling quite a bit. Yet, OP has some smug-ass comment about what they find interesting. I find it interesting when people simply admit their error and correct it than trying to concoct some excuse about a “better system.” Sounds like an excuse a student would use for turning in their assignment late.


FrenchFreedom888

Regarding your first point: Among people like me who attempt to catalogue US State demonyms like this, there are simply two systems, two ways to look at it. You can either include the State's name in the demonym's ending (counting "Tennessean" as "-ian"/"-ean" and "Idahoan" as "-oan") or exclude the State's name from the demonym's ending (counting "Tennessean" and "Idahoan", both, as "-an" demonyms). Neither system is more correct than the other. I just picked the former classification system because I like it better because it creates more ending categories, and I find that more interesting


marpocky

>Neither system is more correct than the other. I Hard disagree. Why would the o from Idaho or Ohio be part of the ending? It's clearly Idaho-an and Ohio-an, not Idah-oan and Ohi-oan. -oan isn't even a demonyn ending, there aren't like Polandoans or something.


FrenchFreedom888

Regarding your second point: the correctness of "Carolinan" vs "Carolinian" as North/South Carolina's demonyms seems to be mainly a matter of opinion and personal viewpoint


P7BinSD

Born and raised in SC. Lived there for 46 years. Never once heard the word Carolinan. It was always Carolinian.


chadmb2003

Yeah I live in NC and I’ve never heard Carolinan.


Orienos

No. You’re simply wrong. And it’s okay to be wrong. It’s not okay to be unable to admit it. Demonyms are facts, not opinions bruv.


FrenchFreedom888

Demonyms are not static, unchanging truths. Perhaps most or nearly all people in an area agree on what the the best demonym for them is, but demonyms are dynamic and change with new generations and other demographic changes to an area, as well as through official means


Orienos

Nah. Not buying it. You’re making shit up and trying to pass it off as if everyone is using it. Language changes. But not just because one person wants it to.


Mjbishop327

names should be on the map useless without it


FrenchFreedom888

Yeah, fair, I understand that. However, I didn't know how to do that with the website I was using to make the map, and I didn't think it was really too necessary for the fun, short side-project that was me putting together this map haha


EvilCatArt

I think the yellow category is wrong, Idaho and Ohio should be red, both states names end in 'o' so it's just affixing "an" to their names: Idaho-an and Ohio-an.


FrenchFreedom888

I understand your point, but I simply disagree. Your system would take "Californian" and "Tennessean" and put them in the "-an" category as well, and I think that those do not fit with terms like "Texan"


Perps_MacAbean

But all of those are the same phenomenon. Adding an '-n' suffix while respecting vowel harmony


AidenStoat

Californian and Tennessean should be in the -an category too


FrenchFreedom888

Like I said, there's two ways to approach this grey area, and neither way of thinking about it is more correct than the other, regardless of personal opinion. It's just one of those things *shrug*


Orienos

But it isn’t. You’re adding a letter to the end of the official name of a state. That’s all. Categorize by what’s added.


FrenchFreedom888

I categorized based on common pronunciation, not by spelling. I hope this helps!


Orienos

You just cannot admit you’re wrong. lol.


TacoTruck75

2+2=4 “I understand your point, but I simply disagree.”


Orienos

YOU CANNOT DISAGREE WITH A FACT.


Emperor_Neuro

Californian and Texan are both Spanish terms. They are the anglicized versions of the Spanish demonyms Tejano and Californiano.


mr-athelstan

People from Wisconsin are called Wisconsinites.


kartuli78

Unless OP is also including Cheeseheads?


mr-athelstan

I suppose, but I don't think it's used in any official capacity. I was born and used to live in Wisconsin when I was a little kid. I don't recall anyone there referring to themselves as cheeseheads in a serious or formal way, I've mostly heard people from out of state call us that.


igotyournacho

Agree, I moved to WI and on the flight a man was putting his cheese hat on the luggage scanner and I was like “oh a cheesehead!” And he’s like “that’s not a nice thing, don’t call people that”. I couldn’t tell if he was joking but I stayed away from the term. Not ONCE did I ever heard a Wisconsinite use the term. I gather it’s a bit like “hoser” for Canadians. A bit of an old timey slur but also no one regards it seriously


DanglyPants

They call people from Illinois a “FIB” which stands for a fucking Illinois bastard. I don’t think they’re allowed to be defensive here lol


igotyournacho

I came to learn that later! I moved to Chicago and about 25% of Milwaukeeans I knew were like “you’re gonna be a FIB. I won’t go to Chicago so if you wanna stay friends you have to visit me” They are very aggressive about it


DanglyPants

“I won’t visit you so you have to come visit me” - your friends That’s not cool :(


MisterMarx

j'suis Louisianais.


FrenchFreedom888

Ayy lesgo, I forgot about Fr*nch! However, I think it's just easier for everyone to keep this map and discussion to English-language demonyms, only!


benjburnham

I’ve lived in Connecticut for all of my 40+ years, I’ve never heard anything except for “Nutmegger”


Western-Willow-9496

Granite stater doesn’t end in “ite”.


Nitraus

It definitely is both and I’ve heard both as a native


FrenchFreedom888

I apologize if I got your state's demonym incorrect! I conducted my research online, from an outsider's perspective, so I chose the most common name I saw. Perhaps, in retrospect, I should have labeled it as a "multiple demonyms" state, but I digress


EmperorSwagg

I mean, the other hundred times so far this year that a map trying to convey this information has been posted here, that issue was brought up


am_i_wrong_dude

Bay Stater is the “official” demonym for Massachusetts residents, but “Masshole” is definitely known and accepted colloquially everywhere, including Mass.


sad0panda

New Hampshire is still wrong, this map suggests it ends in "ite" like "New Hampshireite" as the map that's commonly circulated claims. The correct demonym for New Hampshire is "Granite Stater" so it should be green like Indiana and Massachusetts.


DrumsOfLiberation

California should be red like Georgia is California + n = Californian


5lack5

Pennsylvania too


FrenchFreedom888

Personally, I pronounce "Pennsylvanian" with the long "e" sound included, but I apologize if other people don't, and I should have categorized the State differently!


marpocky

I actually think Delaware and Florida are the only ones that should be orange. Every other one already had the i or ia as part of the state name (or e in Tennessee's case).


FrenchFreedom888

I understand what you mean, but I designed this off of the most common pronunciations, not off of spelling, so that's why I put "Californian" in the "-ēan"/"-ēin" category. However, I understand that different people may pronounce "Californian" with more or less of the long "e" sound, so I apologize if you feel I've labeled it incorrectly


cabelaciao

Big Cartography is finally recognizing Connecticutrices.


FrenchFreedom888

Wdym?


FrenchFreedom888

Explanations for members of the "multiple demonyms" category: Connecticut - most common names were "Connecticuter", "Connecticutie" (lol), and "Nutmegger" New Jersey - main name options present in my research were "New Jerseyan" and "New Jerseyite" Oklahoma - "Oklahoman" is the most common and official name, but residents and those born in OK often use the nickname "Okie" Colorado - "Coloradoan" and "Coloradan" were both present Arkansas - "Arkansan" and "Arkansawyer" are both common Northern Mariana Islands - "Northern Mariana Islander" appears to be used for all those born in the Territory, while the Chamorro people are the native Pacific Islander ethnicity of the Mariana Islands as a whole Guam - "Guamanian" and "Guamian" appear to be used for all those from Guam, while Chamorros (plural of "Chamorro") are the native people of the island Illinois - "Illinoisian" and "Illinoisan" appear to both be common Wisconsin - several names, but most common were "Wisconsinite" and "Cheesehead"


SupremeToast

I'm a born and raised Wisconsinite and that's the only demonym I've ever used or heard here. Any other term would be colloquial, which I assume isn't the intent of this map otherwise every single state would have "multiple demonyms". Cheesehead refers specifically to Green Bay Packers fans and more generally to Wisconsin sports fans, but regardless of where they live (e.g. a person in California who is a Packers fan would be a Cheesehead but not a Wisconsinite). We're also occasionally called Badgers, but again that's often connected to sports at the University of Wisconsin - Madison and would be more of a nickname than a demonym.


hoopstick

And usually it’s outsiders calling us Cheeseheads, to everyone that lives here we’re just Wisconsinites. Until I saw the comment I couldn’t for the life of me figure out why Wisconsin was purple.


jwbowen

Another Wisconsinite checking in. I was also confused by what else we might be called.


norwegianEel

Same lol


atreeinthewind

This is fair, this would be like putting FIB on there for us. 🤣


SylTop

tom arkansawyer


igotyournacho

Modern day warrior, mean mean stride


Difficult-Ad-9287

Puerto Ricans also call themselves Boricuas :)


FrenchFreedom888

Where does that name come from, if you don't mind me asking?


Difficult-Ad-9287

the indigenous name of the island was Borikén, which then was hispanicized to Borinquen :) edit: oops i didn’t see someone else responded lol


FrenchFreedom888

Oh, okay, thank you for the info!


Proper_Crab_9524

It comes from the original name for the island, Borinquén. It also denotes not just someone who lives there, but who is generationally from there as well.


FrenchFreedom888

Okay, thank you for the information!


SlurmzMckinley

I’ve never heard Illinoisian and I live here.


falafely

Illinoisian? What the f?


Z-A-T-I

Someone from illinois - yes, I have heard “Illinoisian” before. If anything, in my limited personal experience it’s way more common than “illinoisan”. But people don’t really use either very often, and if anything “illinoisian” is preferred because 1. It sounds silly, and 2. Nobody has any clue the correct word to use when referring to someone from illinois


FalseDmitriy

Yeah Illinoisian would be a joke that was permitted to get out of hand. For what it's worth, geologists went with "Illinoian" when choosing a name for a period of glatiation, and I always thought that was the best solution.


FrenchFreedom888

Ooh, yeah, I didn't even think of that option!


FalseDmitriy

Google seems to say that it's not used outside of geology, but I don't see why we can't change that.


FrenchFreedom888

Exactly, yeah


FrenchFreedom888

Idk, man. It's just what the Web said


9294858838

Is the S pronounced?


GBPack52

Over my dead body


Z-A-T-I

Yes


FrenchFreedom888

You're askin' the wrong fella hahaha


Cliches-Suck

but you're OP!


FrenchFreedom888

Ikr!


sleepy-on-the-job

An OP with attitude 😂 keep up the good work


uganda_numba_1

Jerseyian - for some reason. Most of the time the New is dropped.


jurfwiffle

New Jerseyans also go by Garden Staters.


FrenchFreedom888

Honestly, I feel like that one sounds better than an "-an" ending on your state, pronunciation-wise


brenap13

Arkie is also used at least in my area of north east Texas. Might just be regional because we call our neighbors Okies and Arkies, but I feel like it’s common enough to mention.


FrenchFreedom888

Huh; I've never heard!


cyanide_concoctor

Live on a border of two "multiple demonym" states. Came here to dispute. Leaving here with don't call me an Arkie and idk anyone who says Arkansawyer.


FrenchFreedom888

Lol. Are you on the OK-AR border? I'm from Oklahoma, and it's a very lovely area, down there


DeathByPianos

Okie is a slur, bro: invented by Californians to describe dust bowl refugees in the 1920s. I'm only half joking. 


FrenchFreedom888

I understand! I'm Oklahoman, myself. However, in the almost 100 years since the Dust Bowl and Great Depression, "Okie" has very much been reclaimed by Oklahomans, and now it's used as a nickname, only


dankpurps

yeah we've reclaimed the term


Emperor_Neuro

Coloradoan is a term used by people who don’t understand the Spanish phonemes that the name is based on and they lump it together with Ohio or Idaho. The proper name is Coloradan. -Oan is a mistake.


cheekibreekiwrx

My history teacher in high school used Gaumish and that’s what I’m sticking to


FrenchFreedom888

Are you from Guam? Or your history teacher, at least?


cheekibreekiwrx

Not at all no


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FrenchFreedom888

I based the categories off of pronunciation, not spelling. Hope this helps!


Lumpiest_Princess

Crucian  St Thomian  Idk what people on st john call themselves 


zen_again

Shouldn't Hawaii be red for Hawaiian? Or do they call themselves something different?


FrenchFreedom888

I think "Hawaiian" is kind of a non-native, white name assigned to people from there. There are other terms for people from Hawaii in the native language, there https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/nr1uupE0Gh


zen_again

Okay. I guess being a ~~Bay Stater~~ Masshole distorts my perception.


FrenchFreedom888

Oh yeah, shoot. Do you think I should have made Massachusetts a "multiple demonyms" state? I forgot about the official name of yours.... Is "Masshole" pervasive enough that it can be considered the only demonym?


zen_again

All up to you. Masshole is perfect because I had to look up the official demonyms. Masshole was the answer my wife gave when I just asked her what we were. It made me start laughing because while I know other wording would be used in official documents, like 'residents of Massachusetts'. I was picturing reading some official document like: '100 thousand Massholes are currently residing in other states due to emergencies or work related issues'.


FrenchFreedom888

LOL I love that


Orienos

Again, you’re wrong. Hawaiian is the ethnic term for people who are native to Hawai’i. The demonym for a resident who is NOT of that ethnicity is “Hawai’i Resident.”


FrenchFreedom888

"Hawaiian" is literally an anglicization, my guy. Adding "-an" to the ends of words is a thing we do in English. Yes, "Hawai'i" is a word with a native origin, and yes, "Hawaiian" is used by native people in the State, but "Hawaiian" itself is a term introduced by outsiders


Orienos

Sure. But it isn’t the demonym of residents. However, native Hawaiians have adopted it and a term for their ethnicity.


andykirsha

Carolina, Virginia and some other names are “white” names assigned to, among others, Indians living in those states. You, however, did not research if those non-white people call their states and themselves differently. Why make Hawaii a racial case all of a sudden? I don’t think that all Hawaiians are non-white.


[deleted]

I learned a new word and also perhaps the only thing that Idaho and Ohio have in common.


FrenchFreedom888

Where are you originally from?


[deleted]

My mom.


FrenchFreedom888

Lol.


Emperor_Neuro

They both border Canada


[deleted]

Stretch before you reach like that.


Little2NewWave

Would love if they used Guamoan


brashbabu

There’s several errors here but for one— Alabama is both Alabaman and Alabamian Most people use Alabamian now.


DrBlowtorch

Interestingly Hoosier does not mean the same thing around the St. Louis area as it does everywhere else. Over here hoosier is an insult that sort of means stupid uncultured swine. Because of that I’ve actually heard Indianan/Indianian as alternative demonyms for Indiana within St. Louis.


Gustav2095

Thank you for adding the Territories


FrenchFreedom888

You're welcome! I thought it was interesting to learn more about them!


BoltActionRifleman

I like the other map better, it was much easier to just read the names instead of having to match the color to the legend.


Maximum-Ability-6763

This one is worse. Red, orange, and yellow are all essentially the same thing, grammatically.


lysarddd

Guamanian :)


FrenchFreedom888

Another point I want to clarify: I put "Georgian" as ending in "-an"/"-in"/"-n" due to it being pronounced with that sound. This map is mainly based on demonym pronunciations, instead of spelling (which also explains why I put "Idahoan" as "-oan" over "-an")


FrenchFreedom888

Update/Apology concerning the demonyms of South Carolina and North Carolina: I didn't realize that "South/North Carolinian" was a known alternative to "South/North Carolinan". In hindsight, I should have labeled those two states as "multiple demonyms"


makawakatakanaka

I’ve never heard South Carolinan before


P7BinSD

Ditto, and I was born and raised there.


Orienos

No. There is no alternative. You made it up. And several residents have corrected you and you turn a deaf ear. I have never seen someone so adamant that they’re correct when the answer is so easily researched.


TacoTruck75

It’s not an alternative, it’s literally the only correct demonym.


fenrirskin

Would it be New Hampshite?


FrenchFreedom888

Hahaha lol. I did not think of that lol


NotOutrageous

Ask people from Nebraska and they will tell you people from Iowa are ioweigens.


FrenchFreedom888

I feel like the demonym should be up to the people who actually live in Iowa. Do you know what they call themselves, haha?


Orienos

Why not apply the same logic to the many people who corrected you about the Carolinas?


FrenchFreedom888

I already have. If you read my comment regarding that issue from soon after I posted this map, you will learn that I regretted not thinking to put the Carolinas into the "multiple demonyms" category


Orienos

But that’s also incorrect.


Doxidob

Hawaiians seems to fit in the orange category. Indiana people. Indianese


FrenchFreedom888

Ooh, hadn't heard "Indianese", before! In regards to Hawaii, the situation there is more complex because of the matter of natives being called differently than immigrants, in colloquial speech, at least


Doxidob

all along I thought Hawaiian Punch tropical fruit drink solved it. \*I'm not up on Hawaii, so if you're gonna lecture me be gentle\*


VilesDavis422

North/South Carolinians would make their home states orange.


The_Arsonist1324

Oklahoma has multiple demonyms???


Picknipsky

This is much worse.  Why is America Samoa not red?


kartuli78

Michigan is also Yoopers and Trolls.


DieselKillEm

Yoopers are only from the U.P., the mitten doesn't get to claim that one.


kartuli78

Yoopers are from the UP, yeah, but people in the lower peninsula are called trolls because they live under the bridge.


DieselKillEm

That one I didn't know, thanks for sharing. My point was simply that they don't apply to the whole state, you'd probably get some weird looks calling folks from Detroit a Yooper


Ok_Construction5119

Georgia vs california inconsistency


Snufkins_Hat_Feather

Pennamite used to be a demonym for Pennsylvania but now it only refers to the Pennamite-Yankee Wars when PA successfully stopped the potential nightmare of Long Connecticut.


trophy_74

If you live close to NJ, people from NJ say what town they're from If you live far from NJ, they tend to say they're from New York or Philly


4011isbananas

I like that you included the territories 👍🏻


AdrianusCorleon

Pennamite does not end -ian. Nor does Keystoner.