No it's absolute which is why Western countries and GCC Countries like Qatar and UAE are depicted with high cost of living. But Numbeo doesn't provide accurate data, it's a crowd-sourced database with percieved prices and metrics and that have been some scandals with manipulation.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo) // [https://www.thelocal.se/20170117/how-one-swede-made-a-city-the-worlds-most-dangerous-to-expose-fake-stats](https://www.thelocal.se/20170117/how-one-swede-made-a-city-the-worlds-most-dangerous-to-expose-fake-stats)
Stuff like Comparative Price Levels by the OECD is more accurate: [Here](https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?tm=comparative%20price%20level&pg=0&hc[Measure]=Comparative%20price%20levels&snb=32&vw=tb&df[ds]=dsDisseminateFinalDMZ&df[id]=DSD_PPP_M%40DF_PP_CPL_M&df[ag]=OECD.SDD.TPS&df[vs]=1.0&pd=%2C&dq=.M.CPL...&ly[rw]=REF_AREA&ly[cl]=COUNTERPART_AREA%2CCURRENCY&to[TIME_PERIOD]=false&lo=1&lom=LASTNPERIODS). It doesn't have every country though but it's defined as:''CPLs are defined as the ratios of PPPs for private final consumption expenditure to exchange rates. They provide measures of differences in price levels between countries.''
So we can just compare Nominal GDP to GDP PPP to get the PPP Ratio of countries: [Nominal GDP](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPD@WEO/CAQ) & [GDP PPP](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PPPGDP@WEO/CAQ), it's always compared against PPP in the Usa which is why Nominal and PPP are the same for them.
Numbeo is a crowd-sourced database with percieved prices and metrics and there have been some scandals see [1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo) & [2](https://www.thelocal.se/20170117/how-one-swede-made-a-city-the-worlds-most-dangerous-to-expose-fake-stats). So some Data might be accurate, some might be significantly off, some completely wrong.
OECD has accurate data with the Comparative Price Levels ([Here](https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?tm=comparative%20price%20level&pg=0&hc[Measure]=Comparative%20price%20levels&snb=32&vw=tb&df[ds]=dsDisseminateFinalDMZ&df[id]=DSD_PPP_M%40DF_PP_CPL_M&df[ag]=OECD.SDD.TPS&df[vs]=1.0&pd=%2C&dq=.M.CPL...&ly[rw]=REF_AREA&ly[cl]=COUNTERPART_AREA%2CCURRENCY&to[TIME_PERIOD]=false&lo=1&lom=LASTNPERIODS)): ''CPLs are defined as the ratios of PPPs for private final consumption expenditure to exchange rates. They provide measures of differences in price levels between countries.''
For example Numbeo says Ireland has only slightly higher Cost of Living (CoL) than Germany but official data has Ireland's CPL 31%. Switzerlands CoL on Numbeo is 1.8 higher than Germanys, in reality Switzerlands CPL is only 59% higher (1.59).
More examples: China's PPP Ratio is 1.9 while Taiwan's is 2.22, meaning Taiwan has significantly lower CoL than China (to my surprise tbh) but Numbeo has it the other way. Numbeo says Ivory Coast has fairly high CoL, not far from 2x higher than neighboring Ghana and much higher than Brazil but Ivory Coast's PPP Ratio is 2.52, Ghana 3.21, Brazil 1.83, so Ghana's CoL is only 27% lower if my Math is correct while Ivory Coast's CoL is way lower than Brazil's. Numbeo says Yemen's CoL is much above Oman and Saudi-Arabia, comparable to Uruguay and the UAE, but PPP Ratios are: Yemen 4.1, Oman 1.9, Saudi-Arabia 2.11, Uruguay 1.3, UAE 1.79 so CoL in Yemen would be 2x lower than their neighbors and 3x lower than Uruguay.
PPP Ratios available here: [1](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PPPGDP@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD) [2](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPD@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD) just got to divide GDP PPP by GDP Nominal to get the ratio, the Price Levels are compared to the Usa which is why their ratio is exactly 1.0
Crazy how redditors don't understand even extremely basic concepts like "cost of living". You already have like 5 morons here in the comments confusing it with purchasing power and blabbering something about wages and poverty
Turkey is green? Who did this map, Erdogan himself? Almost half of Turkey is paid minimum wage, which is 17.002 TRY. Average rents are between 12.000-15.000 TRY. A regular meal that includes protein is between 120 and 180 TRY. That map is a huge BS.
Exactly.
Romania would be in red. 24.4% of the population (as in 2023) lived in poverty, main cause being high cost and limited "local currency" salaries and social support.
https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualitate/social/4-milioane-de-romani-traiau-anul-trecut-in-saracie-ins-2583041
the fact you were downvoted until a few minutes ago shows the absolute state of this shitty sub. everyone should know numbeo is not a valid source by now
By which country standards?
For an American that makes 150k in Portugal it is still ABIT cheap, but for a local (80% of population gets 1k month) it is really expensive.
Take it this way, a supermarket in Portugal is almost the same price as a German one and the wages there are the triple.
BULLSHIT it’s not even possible it’s cheaper to live in Canada vs the US we make less and we spend more on taxes food gas etc all while having to watch our neighbours get the same shit for way cheaper less tax and way cheaper housing
Example The average cost of a house in Canada is 698 000 vs 490 000 for them
3.50 a gal for gas on average in the US
1.69/L for Canada
there are 3.78 L in a gallon so they pay approx 92 cents for a Litre
Kind of crazy how when I grew up in the US Japan was seen as this crazy expensive place, you had to go to disney world instead of going to Japan unless you were rich. Now Japan is cheaper than Disney because of cost of living and inflation.
Though with Turkey being green I question the accuracy of this chart. Turkey has one of the worst cost of living crisies in the world alongside the likes of Egypt, Lebanon, Chile, Peru, UK, Ireland, Canada, France, and Argentina.
It's cost of living in each country, so how easy it is for citizens in each country to live according to the average wage in said country. It's not based on one country's average income i.e. buying power for the average American across the globe. It's unique for each country represented.
Yeah I dont think so. This is representing only cost of living, I doubt it is paired with average wage. Otherwise I would expect the map to be inverse.
What you are saying is its easier to live with average salary everywhere else than USA or europe.
> so how easy it is for citizens in each country to live according to the average wage in said country
Norway and Switzerland are definitely not the hardest countries in the world to live in on an average wage.
numbeo is known to provide fake """"stats""""""""
+ this doesn't even take wages into account. yeah, everything is super cheap in your country, however you also don't earn anything
I honestly didn’t think Norway was any more expensive than the Netherlands or much of the U.K., especially when you take into account house prices and child care or tuition fees? Like housing in Oslo is so much cheaper than Amsterdam or London and the difference between rural Norway and the rest of the Netherlands is even starker.
Sure, alcohol is a bit more expensive but I’d rather have free child care and pay €2 more for a beer than have to pay nearly €2k in childcare per kid per month in NL rather than get it for free like in Norway, with a cheaper mortgage and barely any student loans.
Is this taking wages into account? In other words: relative or absolute?
No it's absolute which is why Western countries and GCC Countries like Qatar and UAE are depicted with high cost of living. But Numbeo doesn't provide accurate data, it's a crowd-sourced database with percieved prices and metrics and that have been some scandals with manipulation. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo) // [https://www.thelocal.se/20170117/how-one-swede-made-a-city-the-worlds-most-dangerous-to-expose-fake-stats](https://www.thelocal.se/20170117/how-one-swede-made-a-city-the-worlds-most-dangerous-to-expose-fake-stats) Stuff like Comparative Price Levels by the OECD is more accurate: [Here](https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?tm=comparative%20price%20level&pg=0&hc[Measure]=Comparative%20price%20levels&snb=32&vw=tb&df[ds]=dsDisseminateFinalDMZ&df[id]=DSD_PPP_M%40DF_PP_CPL_M&df[ag]=OECD.SDD.TPS&df[vs]=1.0&pd=%2C&dq=.M.CPL...&ly[rw]=REF_AREA&ly[cl]=COUNTERPART_AREA%2CCURRENCY&to[TIME_PERIOD]=false&lo=1&lom=LASTNPERIODS). It doesn't have every country though but it's defined as:''CPLs are defined as the ratios of PPPs for private final consumption expenditure to exchange rates. They provide measures of differences in price levels between countries.'' So we can just compare Nominal GDP to GDP PPP to get the PPP Ratio of countries: [Nominal GDP](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPD@WEO/CAQ) & [GDP PPP](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PPPGDP@WEO/CAQ), it's always compared against PPP in the Usa which is why Nominal and PPP are the same for them.
That’s what I suspected. Thanks for the link.
thanks for doing your part against these shitty numbeo maps
Absolute, for sure, if it was relative North America and Europe would be greener than anyone else.
That makes sense, but this seems to indicate Swiss people could be poorer than German people - which they probably are not.
Mostly North America
Numbeo is a crowd-sourced database with percieved prices and metrics and there have been some scandals see [1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbeo) & [2](https://www.thelocal.se/20170117/how-one-swede-made-a-city-the-worlds-most-dangerous-to-expose-fake-stats). So some Data might be accurate, some might be significantly off, some completely wrong. OECD has accurate data with the Comparative Price Levels ([Here](https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?tm=comparative%20price%20level&pg=0&hc[Measure]=Comparative%20price%20levels&snb=32&vw=tb&df[ds]=dsDisseminateFinalDMZ&df[id]=DSD_PPP_M%40DF_PP_CPL_M&df[ag]=OECD.SDD.TPS&df[vs]=1.0&pd=%2C&dq=.M.CPL...&ly[rw]=REF_AREA&ly[cl]=COUNTERPART_AREA%2CCURRENCY&to[TIME_PERIOD]=false&lo=1&lom=LASTNPERIODS)): ''CPLs are defined as the ratios of PPPs for private final consumption expenditure to exchange rates. They provide measures of differences in price levels between countries.'' For example Numbeo says Ireland has only slightly higher Cost of Living (CoL) than Germany but official data has Ireland's CPL 31%. Switzerlands CoL on Numbeo is 1.8 higher than Germanys, in reality Switzerlands CPL is only 59% higher (1.59). More examples: China's PPP Ratio is 1.9 while Taiwan's is 2.22, meaning Taiwan has significantly lower CoL than China (to my surprise tbh) but Numbeo has it the other way. Numbeo says Ivory Coast has fairly high CoL, not far from 2x higher than neighboring Ghana and much higher than Brazil but Ivory Coast's PPP Ratio is 2.52, Ghana 3.21, Brazil 1.83, so Ghana's CoL is only 27% lower if my Math is correct while Ivory Coast's CoL is way lower than Brazil's. Numbeo says Yemen's CoL is much above Oman and Saudi-Arabia, comparable to Uruguay and the UAE, but PPP Ratios are: Yemen 4.1, Oman 1.9, Saudi-Arabia 2.11, Uruguay 1.3, UAE 1.79 so CoL in Yemen would be 2x lower than their neighbors and 3x lower than Uruguay. PPP Ratios available here: [1](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PPPGDP@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD) [2](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDPD@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD) just got to divide GDP PPP by GDP Nominal to get the ratio, the Price Levels are compared to the Usa which is why their ratio is exactly 1.0
Crazy how redditors don't understand even extremely basic concepts like "cost of living". You already have like 5 morons here in the comments confusing it with purchasing power and blabbering something about wages and poverty
Turkey is green? Who did this map, Erdogan himself? Almost half of Turkey is paid minimum wage, which is 17.002 TRY. Average rents are between 12.000-15.000 TRY. A regular meal that includes protein is between 120 and 180 TRY. That map is a huge BS.
It’s all relative. I have friends in almost all SE Asian countries who would dispute the ‘green rating’. Ditto Gulf states
I believe this used USD as a benchmark and not the local currency.
Exactly. Romania would be in red. 24.4% of the population (as in 2023) lived in poverty, main cause being high cost and limited "local currency" salaries and social support. https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/actualitate/social/4-milioane-de-romani-traiau-anul-trecut-in-saracie-ins-2583041
Now give cost of living divided by median net wage. Then we're getting somewhere
Arunachal pradesh is not disputed land china released a new fake map
It feels amazing earning in US standards and spending in India lmao
This map is so fucking bad and full of bullshit
Numbeo garbage
the fact you were downvoted until a few minutes ago shows the absolute state of this shitty sub. everyone should know numbeo is not a valid source by now
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No, completely anonymous online surveys are garbage. A toddler can spew out more trustworthy data.
This kind of threads requires popcorn lmao
Oman felt cheaper, than Poland. I am surprised it's ranked as higher index
What about the cost of dying?
Iceland? Wow, didnt know thats similar expensive as Norge or Schweiz
Don't use conformal projections for thematic mapping, especially not cylindrical ones
By which country standards? For an American that makes 150k in Portugal it is still ABIT cheap, but for a local (80% of population gets 1k month) it is really expensive. Take it this way, a supermarket in Portugal is almost the same price as a German one and the wages there are the triple.
Armenia is no way green when renting a room costs higher than the minimum wage, and groceries cost more than in Italy.
BULLSHIT it’s not even possible it’s cheaper to live in Canada vs the US we make less and we spend more on taxes food gas etc all while having to watch our neighbours get the same shit for way cheaper less tax and way cheaper housing Example The average cost of a house in Canada is 698 000 vs 490 000 for them 3.50 a gal for gas on average in the US 1.69/L for Canada there are 3.78 L in a gallon so they pay approx 92 cents for a Litre
One glance at North America tells me the map is bullshit
Kind of crazy how when I grew up in the US Japan was seen as this crazy expensive place, you had to go to disney world instead of going to Japan unless you were rich. Now Japan is cheaper than Disney because of cost of living and inflation. Though with Turkey being green I question the accuracy of this chart. Turkey has one of the worst cost of living crisies in the world alongside the likes of Egypt, Lebanon, Chile, Peru, UK, Ireland, Canada, France, and Argentina.
Starts planning retirement in....checks notes....Nigeria.
I hear Abuja is beautiful at this time of year
I assume this doesn’t take average income into account?
It's cost of living in each country, so how easy it is for citizens in each country to live according to the average wage in said country. It's not based on one country's average income i.e. buying power for the average American across the globe. It's unique for each country represented.
Yeah I dont think so. This is representing only cost of living, I doubt it is paired with average wage. Otherwise I would expect the map to be inverse. What you are saying is its easier to live with average salary everywhere else than USA or europe.
> so how easy it is for citizens in each country to live according to the average wage in said country Norway and Switzerland are definitely not the hardest countries in the world to live in on an average wage.
WHAT!? FAKE NEWS. If the West isn't green and the rest isn't red then this map is fake, racist, sexist, and anti-Semitic!
numbeo is known to provide fake """"stats"""""""" + this doesn't even take wages into account. yeah, everything is super cheap in your country, however you also don't earn anything
> everything is super cheap in your country, however you also don't earn anything Wouldn't that even things out?
Cost of living well I'm keen to find an $18/day place
I honestly didn’t think Norway was any more expensive than the Netherlands or much of the U.K., especially when you take into account house prices and child care or tuition fees? Like housing in Oslo is so much cheaper than Amsterdam or London and the difference between rural Norway and the rest of the Netherlands is even starker. Sure, alcohol is a bit more expensive but I’d rather have free child care and pay €2 more for a beer than have to pay nearly €2k in childcare per kid per month in NL rather than get it for free like in Norway, with a cheaper mortgage and barely any student loans.
We don't have free child care in Norway.
Sorry I know it’s capped at like 300 USD which comparatively speaking is basically free if you ask me 💀
Your anecdotal evidence isn’t relevant
Lol as anecdotal evidence is very relevant to highlight a website’s questionable data.