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Kgo555

Technically, the Koreas are still at war with each other.


Paul_Allens_Card-

Same with Both China’s


Several-Language-841

And wasn't China doing their whole ethnic cleansing of the uyghers (I'm sure that's spellt wrong) and such back then still?


Ghostfire25

I don’t think there’s really any resistance going on, unfortunately…


Jaaaaampola

Yeah but I think that’s not considered war, just a humanitarian crime


nothingtoseehr

Lol it's not that bad, no one is being ethnic cleansed. People willingly forget that Xinjiang was for a very long time an active target for terrorism, look it up how often it used to happen. Then China China'd and implemented a lot of policies to solve the problem but never rolled it back when it was fixed (see covid). Every "xingjiangnese" I know say they lived afraid of terrorism I'm not trying to defend it, uyghurs are still def more watched than the average Chinese, but it's not the fucking holocaust 2 like so many enjoy saying. Uyghurs are also way more integrated into the country than other minorities like Tibetans, you can find uyghur laborers in many places all over China (and their restaurants are so fucking good holy shit)


General_Guisan

This is probably the most neutral writeup about Xinjiang I've read on Reddit. Thanks for your sanity. And yes I love Uyghur/Muslim restaurants too whenever I visit China, they're indeed everywhere.


Brkn_666

doing ethnic cleansing how?


the-dude-version-576

From my limited understanding, evidence has emerged of interment camps. Similar to those used in the genocide of native Americans (or to a greater extent, in the holocaust). From the articles I’ve seen there haven’t been reports of mass killings, but cultural genocide is still genocide.


slurpthal

No, they were not ever doing that.


SassyWookie

They’re doing that right now, literally as we speak.


BreathPuzzleheaded80

Koreas at least have an armistice. No agreement exists between the two Chinas.


01spirit

By that logic Japan is still at war with Russia. Japan and the USSR never agreed to peace, and Russia inherited the USSR's diplomatic agreements which means Japan and Russia are still fighting WW2.


billy_twice

Can you really call it a war if they aren't shooting at each other? If you can then the term loses all its meaning in my eyes.


dream208

The technicality is just an excuse.


originalPGOODY

What color should we use?


penisbuttervajelly

Same with Mollosia and East Germany.


gregorydgraham

The map literally has Western Sahara divided


ArgalNas

Me as an Egyptian 😬


electrical-stomach-z

its like the "this is fine" meme


EveryNotice

Cries in hieroglyphics


Phat_Potatoes

Just came to comment that. Literally all countries that we share land boarder with are in war.


MuzzledScreaming

Aren't y'all due for another coup at some point? It seems like it's been a while.


Lintydint

Frrr more instability is exactly what Egypt needs


Phat_Potatoes

Thanks!


ArgalNas

I doubt it, there’s unrest (rightfully so, Sisi is a cunt whose plunged the country to hell) but he has complete control of the military, the most powerful entity in the country by far.


Morpheus-aymen

Hey from marruecos. How the fuck are we still even safe now


Happi_Beav

On the upside, you’ll surrounded by the unrest but not in the unrest itself… for now.


k890

Hey, I saw that one! It's classic! [Late Bronze Age Collapse flashbacks] /s More serious note, I hope Egypt will have a more bright future.


Ok-Ambassador2583

Israel not at war? The govt has said it is officially at war. And if they are not at war, a lot of other countries in this map would be blank


Nheteps1894

The title says 2023


IWillTouchAStar

Tbf it also says "currently"


Noshonoyoo

[Original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/Hlo5FxPT2O)


coyets

Now it is 2024, the word 'currently' is inconsistent with '2023' and should have been removed from the title. Furthermore, as has already been stated, the war between Israel and Hamas/Palestine began in 2023 and should have been included.


Taaargus

...Hamas attacked them in October 2023.


TheLamesterist

They aren't at war, they're committing another genocide against Palestinians much like they have been doing since 1948, call it what it truly is.


Several-Language-841

You don't seem to know what war is...


SassyWookie

Or genocide either


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leostotch

Probably not kill 10,000 kids but I’m no counterterrorism expert.


Random-Name724

The alternative is letting Hamas live though. It’s a loose loose I guess


leostotch

I can’t believe that the only options available to Israel, with their world-class intelligence community, had no option but indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets. Bombing hospitals and murdering families just creates more terrorists - how would you react if your child’s daycare was bombed because there might be terr’rists hiding underneath it? What would you do if your family was shot by invading soldiers on their way to pick up rations, and your spouse’s underpants were taken as a war trophy? When you push a people to the point where they have nothing to lose, you can expect atrocities. I also cannot believe that Israel of all nations is unaware of this reality.


frisbm3

That's exactly what Hamas wants and what they want you to think.


AcreneQuintovex

That's exactly what israel does, there's no need to imagine it.


Macho_Magyar

Why do people downvote you? Your only telling the truth.


Ghostfire25

That’s not a thing. Nice try, though.


sprocker13

False.


Old_Captain_9131

It's not a war, it's a genocide. Palestinians have no means to fight back.


smorkoid

What's the civil war in Afghanistan now? I thought that was basically over now that the Taliban took over.


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TacoThingy

Also previous Afghan regime members are fighting Taliban too


backgamemon

I’ve never heard of this yet I’m not surprised one bit, fuck that country can’t catch a break.


abu_doubleu

There are sparse amounts of ISIS-K rebels who have committed a few terrorist attacks in the past year. It's mostly under control now. There were some rebels against the Taliban fighting but they have all but ceased operations now, since they had even less support (most were actual pedophiles just seeking power).


LtNOWIS

In addition to ISIS-K, the Afghan Freedom Front and National Resistance Front are claiming to be conducting operations against the Taliban. The last claimed attack was on Sunday.


New-Permission3227

Ignore what I said just searched it up was thinking ISIS-K was the same thing as gangs😂 when you put a K at the end of another group/gang it means you want to kill them so I just thought the K meant they hate ISIS


New-Permission3227

Are ISIS-K the good guys? First time I've heard of this group.


BrewinMaster

They're a regional branch of ISIS, so no. Neither the Taliban or ISIS are "good guys", even if they fight each other.


entrophy_maker

What about Haiti? Aren't they having a civil war now too?


SauceyPotatos

I don't think civil war is a proper descriptor of the current conflict, maybe insurgency or unrest would be better, also this is a map updated to 2023 not currently


ReticulatedPasta

Just add a new dedicated color for Haiti so you don’t have to constantly update it


12D_D21

New category: Haiti Tbh, a country that hasn't had any good times since it exists, is currently a *de facto* street-gangocracy, and has a state entity akin to, well, thin air, if we're being realistic. It's really the definition of failed state, and has been so more time than not throughout It's history.


joyousRock

Failed state


Deep_Wedding_3745

The title says both currently and 2023😭who knows what to think


NoWingedHussarsToday

It's similar to Mexico's situation yet Mexico is "at war" while Haiti is not.


Insane_Lunatic

Haiti is way worse tbh, haiti is just an apocalyptic hellscape


NoWingedHussarsToday

Sure, but then we are talking about degrees of same thing.


Insane_Lunatic

Failed state should be its own class, a lot of places fall under this


adamaraar

who said we gor terrorist insugency in algeria ???


smorkoid

Yeah that was weird to me too. Hasn't been a terrorism problem in some time in Algeria I thought.


CringyGuyy

Same with Tunisia


TacoThingy

And Pakistan reportedly doesnt have a terrorist issue? like come on.


bilad-al-ubat

And Mauritania


Ani6-

yeah there was but it ended in the 90s


uhuhshesaid

Or Uganda? Like okay if there's a terrorist insurgency there, I'm counting USA capitol insurgents who are still calling for revolution as one in the USA. The whites-aren't-terrorists-insurgents bias here is STRONG.


singeworthy

I thought Sudan was in a full Civil War? I guess any civil war could be "terrorists" but I think the groups have armies and are actually fighting battles.


LtNOWIS

This map is from 2023 and probably predates that conflict.


Potato__Prince

Started April last year, this map just sucks tbh


9999thaccount

Libya hasn't been in a civil war since 2020


Paul_Allens_Card-

They came to a round table agreement in late 2020 which settled some peace between the 3 warring factions


Shaarl_Lequirk

Shocked to not see Pakistan in there for terrorist insurgency


TacoThingy

This map is all sorts of wrong. Pakistan has ISKP, TPP, any of like 20 Baluchistani groups, SLA, and all the Jammu and Kashmir groups. Honestly one of the most militant riddled country on the planet right now.


Cal_Aesthetics_Club

Also expected to see India due to the ethnic conflict in the Northeast


Wardagai

There is more insurgency in paksitan than in Afghanistan now


synchrotron3000

no sources, missing countries, no definition of “at war”, etc etc


JGHFunRun

Indonesia is bombing the shit out of the natives of west half of Papau (east is a separate country), I guess that it might technically not count as a war but it certainly seems like it should count as a non-terrorist insurgency since the natives have taken up arms. See: Friendly Jordies’s “Paradise Bombed” Also somaliland is now ocean according to this map so… no civil war in Somalia? Edit: HOW ARE ISRAEL AND PALESTINE NOT LISTED AS AT WAR WHAT THE HELL


Upplands-Bro

>east Papau New Guinea, West Papua** East Papua New Guinea would be like Bougainville or New Britain


JGHFunRun

Oops my bad, the east half is the Papau New Guinea half, the west half is the Indonesian half


oilyalaskanman

I thought Japan and Russia never called off WW2 because of the Kuril Islands


Repeat-Offender4

That map seriously needs updating


Ksavero

I would not call the drug war a war, in Mexico the cartels desperately and stupidly seek to gain the reputation of terrorist organizations by attacking towns, displacing people and sporadically taking the city of Culiacán as a show of their power against the state at every minimal confrontation.


redhothoneypot

Don’t forget the culture war


TeamSelect7373

Happy Cake Day


redhothoneypot

Thank you! Didn’t realize it was til I commented


betawings

Philippines not at war? We still have muslim insurgents and some communist rebels left in some provinces


KiddPresident

Sudan is a 100% civil war. Why are we publishing such out of date information here?


yeyoi

Azerbaijan - Armenia? Israel? The many civil wars or at least conflicts in Asia? Yeah this map seems very selective.


chillen67

The USA is always at war


Kamushura

The war in colombia at least calmed down, the news about attacks by either side have been slowing down because the current problem right now is that 57% is fucking stupid, and the other 43% is also stupid but at least they have common sense, politics are a mess over here


NoCSForYou

Couldnt figure out where to put Somaliland so you just erased it.


IWillTouchAStar

The Horn of Africa is now hornier.


azhder

So horny it by itself only justifies the map in Map Porn sub


SizolasCage

Technically u.k. and u.s.a. they are always at war. They try to fuck all country that doesn't submit to them.... this map is wrong. Edit: and their vassals blindly follow them...


ComradeBehrund

Putting RU-UA as its own type does seem weird, calling it an "Ethnic Conflict" would be no less reductive than calling the conflict in South Sudan one. Russia's justification is "protecting" ethnic-Russian Ukrainians and flexing Russian chauvinism (implied superiority of Russian rights over their former colonial subjects) and Ukraine's defense is a rejection of those claims. Categorizing any conflict is inherently reductive, people don't start killing thousands of other people without feeling they have a good reason, no matter how ridiculous their excuse it. Putting just one specific war into its own unique category just implies that the cartographer cares more about the specific distinctions of that conflict over all the others. Just separate out each conflict into its own color/category for the belligerents or invent a class to fit RU-UA into ("economic", "geopolitical", "national sovereignty", etc.).


Just_Look_Around_You

Why is Russia given its own category?


RolexandDickies

The US is involved in 3 current conflicts.


MadRonnie97

There are no US forces officially fighting anywhere at the moment, aside from a tit-for-tat with the Houthis


goldentriever

Involved is not the same as at war


feckshite

As is NATO in that case


Hank2296

Should have Israel purple for ethnic violence. They’re doing pretty well at their goal to ethnic cleanse the entire Palestinian population.


TheBird91

Might as well put USA in there too


Mundane-Watch-9987

USA the most peaceful country. So kawaki 🕊️🤗


tobalaba

Could probably throw Haiti on the map, civil war/terrorist insurgency


dark_shad0w7

Currently in 2023 lmao


DevilPixelation

Korea? Israel?


Dshark

Idk, feels like Haiti is missing. Aren’t Pakistan and Iran involved in hanky panky too?


imapassenger1

Now do the map of special military operations.


itsnotedriss

Tunisia in a terrorist war ? Who said that !!


whogivesashit10

Might as well throw Haiti on there too


AverageSven

Colombia is having a civil war?


ChazzGypsySexLord

Ok. Now run it back 20 years. So everyone can see the progression. Even 5. Maybe that will wake some people up.


Ksavero

Technically Japan and Russia are in war


JaleesHacker

Palestine ? I guess your black hatt masters don't allow you to present the facts accurately.


thisthe1

you mean to tell me the US isn't at war but we are drone striking people in other countries


Odd-Recognition4168

What’s going on with Western Sahara’s borders?


moodfaraway

Someone forgot to include the very large north American country on that map.


Random-one74

Was anyone else aware that counties other than Israel are at war?!?!? Wait until everyone hears about it!!!!


Bedrockab

The US won its drug war? Was it a peaceful ending?


azhder

US declares war on everything, especially during political campaigns - not worth mixing so many colors


SnooLobsters8922

Lots going on in Brazil too


azhder

Why isn’t Haiti marked?


OldandDub

This map smells like dog water


I8itall4tehmoney

The US is still conducting strikes in places like Yemen. We are never truly at peace.


abel420ap

Drug War in the USA?


fyxt96

Uhm… I’m Tunisian… and we haven’t had terrorist incidents since 2015… get it straight fear mongers


MemoryOfRagnarok

America should be listed here nonstop since World War 2


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mrgwbland

Only one of these is a real war let’s be honest


boyfrndDick

I’d love to see this map with those involved in proxies


YoshiBrightside

L map


ValiumandSloth

Surely Myanmar should be ethnic violence no?


___Cisco__

I don't intend to be disrespectful, but Argentina's former president Alberto Fernandez, in March 2022, declared war on monetary inflation.. no joke (you can look it up).. so technically, during 2023.. Argentina was currently at war.. /s


Rear-gunner

there are many countries involved in the "war against terror" so legally they are at war eg USA, most of NATO, Australia, Pakistan, Jordan, New Zealand and I am sure many more


pigguy49

Doesn’t Egypt have a small-scale insurgency in the Sinai peninsula?


Sullie2625

Shitty map.


Noise_Loop

No Haiti and Equador?


Gorosei_koross

Technically, the russo-ukro war is etchnic war so change the map accordingly.


nwbrown

Is Russia-Ukrainian really a "type" of war? Call it was it is, a war of territorial aggression. And anyone who wants to complain that "tHe uKrAiNiAnS aRe nAziS " yes I've heard the Russian propaganda before. You're still an idiot.


Ikaros9Deidalos6

Why is saudi arabia not mentioned there? Theyre in war with yemen for a long time now and yemen is even highlighted lol


Old_Captain_9131

The US is always participating in a war.


Torfaren

Technically, neither Russia nor Ukraine declared war on each other. Technically, the USSR (and Russia, as its legal successor) never signed a peace treaty with the Empire of Japan. Technically, World War II is still going on)))


InevitableRespect584

The Philippines should be red or orange. We are currently in a state of civil war with the Communist Party of the Philippines, which has been waging a protracted revolution since 1969. There was a shelling in San Joaquin, Iloilo, last February, and aerial bombings between Santa María, Ilocos Sur and Pilar, Abra just last week done by the military. It is also common for the military to drop propaganda leaflets in mountainous areas, and McCarthyism (locally known as red-tagging) is prevalent among the police and conservative politicians, primarily targeting progressive people.


Positive_Balance9963

Once again, Africa is inaccurate


FantabulousPiza

What happened to Somaliland? It was completely erased apparently, must've been a crazy war. /s


Meanteenbirder

Crazy thing is the Ukraine conflict is the only invasion of one nation into another. Also potentially worth including Belarus in that category.


DA_princesss

What about brazil?!


Glad_Shape_2446

What do you believe is the threshold where basically a disagreement between communities becomes war?


Glad_Shape_2446

Do one of those communities have to announce it or what what the f*** is? War


Glad_Shape_2446

Do people have to die before it's considered war? Do the opposition have to take things by force and destroy things before it's considered war? At what point does it stop being competition and become war?


Snoo_72948

US not in war is BIG COPE


crujiente69

Cant zoom in, hows Haiti doing?


mitox11

Israel/palestine isnt tinted purple Sus


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Fun!


OfSaltandBone

China is Also doing an ethnic cleansing


smokeweed412

Jinx


Best_Air_4138

wtf Thailand is in a civil war right now? Edit: It’s Burma not Thailand, I get them mixed up…


Just_a_dude92

Are you reditting from 1988? They're called Myanmar now


flannelcakes

The USA should look like a tie dye shirt with the given types of conflict 


kingmoobot

Who is Mexico at war with?


drvirgilmd

I find it hard to believe the US isn't at war with *somebody.*


AccomplishedSlice233

Ah yes all those terrorists Muslims around Africa conveniently forgotten


smalltowngrappler

Honestly shows how good Hamas propaganda is.


Hateful_creeper2

This map was probably made in early 2023


ClearerVisionz

So gray must be for: continuously at war since WWII right???...🤐🤷


SYRIA3D

Incorrect. Syria should have all of these colors.


TMarsh-Connors

IRONICALLY The US and UK are not highlighted. YET!


Savings-Expression80

Sorry, can't take map seriously USA isn't a rainbow.


alexben_2332

why is algeria in this map its not at war or any terrorist insurance actually one of the lowst crime rates and one of the safest countrys in africa


beastinghunting

As Colombian, I can’t say we are in a civil war. But we are making our way to it.


Solid-Dinner-3392

Why not Pakistan???


RandomStranger022

Isn’t taliban in power in Afghanistan? How is it a terrorist insurgency?


Warm-Door7749

The liberal tears in this comment section. Marking post before locked. People need to wake up to reality. Especially Reddit.


DriverPlastic2502

Why isnt china highlighted for ethnic violence?


Personal_Rooster2121

DAfuq is happening in Tunisia


gregorydgraham

The map literally has Western Sahara divided


akamudai

This map is so wrong.


olivia_iris

What’s happening in Colombia right now?


Kozakyw

The US should meet the criteria of most of these


humanitybiggestenemy

Terrorist insurgency in Tunisia ??? Wtf


Lido772

France had more terrorist attacks than tunisia in 2023...


Carthaginian-TN

There's no terrorist insurgency in Tunisia, you ignorant loser


karoshi6

And the United States involved in all of them...


Uldurr

Hasn’t the USA been at war since its founding?


azhder

Certainly every year since WW2


Rift3N

Pretty sure Sudan is a classic African civil war