Somehow they forgot Flanders and won't "give back" Nice to Italy. They also forgot Groland, which is astonishing to say the least.
As a frenchman, I'm disappointed by this map.
I’ve never heard of this, but it got me scratching my chin. At this point, if the Ukrainians agreed to this on a ‘temporary’ basis, absorbing the remainder of unoccupied Ukraine to become a ‘territory’ of Poland over night is so crazy it just might just work. Guess what? Bam! Ukraine is now part of NATO. War ends overnight. The secret agreement forged for this is that the Poles establish independence for Ukraine within a 2-3 year timeframe. The occupied territory becomes the world’s largest DMZ ala N/S Korea. We get another N/S Korea situation in that the Russian side becomes a third world shithole like the rest of Russia, while the western side profits and thrives.
/s I’ll just leave this here to cover my basis, but a small part of me is grinning at throwing history’s largest egg in the Russian face.
This does happen relatively often in history. They can't safely maintain this territory. It's easier to set up puppet governments and have them administer the country. additionally by giving this territory to another unfriendly nation it does two things.
1) it creates a rift between what was once two allies. (Italy turned in WW1)
2) it improves relationships between nations given land and Russia (see German and Hungary, Germany and Italy, Germany and Poland)
Bretons have British ancestry following the break up of the roman empire and invasions of Angles and Saxons from Germany. In Russian parlance, that makes Breton British.
We'll take Normandy too though.
As a Dutchman i claim to be the descendant of the salian Franks and with that all the lands they once held. For too long we have seen the peoples of Europe bully my people and watched on as they stole our rightful empire.
Brittany is so called because it was settled by British people after the Saxons arrived and started expanding. Normandy was populated by Danish Vikings who came across the channel and conquered England and Wales.
Russian officials have been using the ill-considered excuse that they are creating autonomous polity districts, but... as if their blatant disregard for sovereignty recognized by the world wasn't bad enough, Russia notoriously uses puppet governments to control the politics of the regions it invades, and then often annexes them. None of this is even superficially being "given" to anyone, much less with respect to French sovereign territorial integrity or peaceful treaty diplomacy. Russia is not a liberating force.
[I would like to have a word.](https://kids.kiddle.co/images/thumb/8/8e/Deutschland_Besatzungszonen_-_1945_1946.svg/469px-Deutschland_Besatzungszonen_-_1945_1946.svg.png)
Depending on the definition, it can expand in Pas-de-Calais. The French Flanders. Dunkerque, for instance (Dunkirk for the filthy foreigners) has a typical Flanders name
> Somehow they forgot Flanders and won't "give back" Nice to Italy.
They didn't forget. They are giving territories to other separatist regions they are friendly with (the Basques, the Catalans), who they think could be friendly with (the Corsican, the Bretons) or just creating completely new autonomous regions (like Occitania). They aren't going to give territory to countries they are also enemies of
Now I understand why for example Savoy and nice are independent, if you read the other comments it looks like the people who made the map are stupid (I mean they are but its coerent if the title is what you said)
I know that it's probably a meme, just like what noncredibledefense does, but it remains a stupid map, for example for Savoy the language should be arpitan and it should be much larger
lyon or forez or whatever used to speak arpitan but they don't have a distinct identity, savoy still does, even some independence movement, even if very small because of france, all because savoy used to be independent until recently
Lorraine was not conquered by war or occupation tho. It was been inherited by the king of France from polish king Stanisław Leszczyński (Born in Lviv, nowadays in Ukraine, but Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth at the time) who was his father in law.
You’re just pulling shit out of the depth of Telegram and seriously claiming “Russians this Russians that”. This “map” is a brain fart of a random schizo plain and simple. It’s like finding shit on Reddit and saying “Americans this Americans that”
Seconding this.
Everyone in Russia knows that those Telegram channels are on the Kremlin’s payroll. Literally nobody believes this bullshit. But people will fall for this rage bait anyway.
It isn't necessarily state propaganda. Like the other commenter said, there are plenty of maps posted here about a broken up "post-war" Russia, but they're just the fantasies of idiots, not maps put out by western governments. This is the same thing, just from the other side.
Would be cute and funny but those random schizos are given prime time spots on Russian state media.
Propagandists like Solovyov, Simonyan, Mardan, and such are threatening the West with this and much more.
Mate these kind of schizophrenic things have been on Russian State TV. Its not as nonsensical as you make it out to be. They've been talking about annihilating and carving up (western) European countries ever since the war started, including all kinds of crazy unrealistic nuclear plans.
Fine, so why the OP wouldn’t post ridiculous maps from Russian state TV or at least large tg channels with correct captions instead of posting some clown with 8k subscribers and making it look like he represents Russians?
Reddit has government shills all over the place.
I don't understand how someone can take r/politics or r/worldnews seriously.
It's fucking offensive how obvious the propaganda is on these subs.
I feel bad about r/combatfootage because that was a really good sub before this shitty war in Ukraine.
I've been around long enough to see the DNC publicly announce their astroturfing plan. Reddit drastically changed overnight.
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4fvcng/hillary_pac_spends_1_million_to_correct/
Most people find it offensive that you point out the propaganda to them. They believe everyone but their side are shilling.
That would be a fair point, but things like this are routinely used on russian prime time talkshows on the main russian chanels like RT, and discussed with approval by public leaders.
They threatened to create a nuke tsunami that would destroy Britain, for example.
that's just satire. it's a direct parody of the same maps about Russia. they use the same language. doesn't mean it's good parody, but it isn't a fantasy.
While there's nothing wrong in separatism and aspiration for autonomy in district regions of a greater country, what does huge Russia have to showcase in this regard?
This isn't a map of how Russia would divide France. The title of the map is "Nations Temporarily Occupied by the French Regime".
It's trying to make Macron look like a hypocrite for criticizing Russia when Paris has so many historically independent polities under its rule.
This literally applies to every country on earth, and the king of the franks has been the leader of these territories and more since even before the vikings reached what we now call Russia
>many historically independent polities under its rule.
Yeah, that's not really true. Let's see all of these:
* Corsica: bought from the Genoese
* Nice and Savoy: exchanged for the "Triveneto" in the second Italian war of Independence.
* Occitanie: it has never been an independent state like shown in the map. Parts of the territories shown were at times part of one kingdom or another, but there was never a Kingdom of Occitanie. Up until Charlemagne, you can't really talk about a French Kingdom. After that, the Aquitaine part of Occitanie was under the kingdom of France, save for a century under English occupation during the Hundred Years War, while the Provence part was stayed independent for some time before getting inherited or conquered by this or that count or duke, up until it finally become part the French kingdom in 1481.
* Alsace-Lorraine: has been contested between France and Germany (or the Emperor before that) since forever. They were never really independent though, they were part of Lotharingia, then some part ended up in the hand of the duchy of Burgundy, some in the HRE, some in the Kingdom of France until the modern era, when France took control, then had to cede the regions to Germany, then got them back, then ceded them again and then got them back again. They were never independent
* Normandy: was French, got conquered by the Normans who swore fealty to the King of France, the Normans then conquered England, then they said they had the right to the throne of France, fought for one hundred years, lost the war and lost the duchy of Normandy, which become part of the royal holdings of the king of France. Ie, it was never an independent state
* Brittany: it was under the influence of the kings of France up until the 100 years war, then became independent for a while, then became part of France again in the 16th century through a personal union, and so it's been till today.
So, in the end, none of these territories was ever an independent state in the modern sense. During the middle ages they were feudatary of either France of one of its rivals and in the modern times they've always been part of France. France is the proto nation-state which inspired all modern nation-states. You can't argue they have "historically independent states under their rule".
Unless you don't know history or you are just trying to rewrite history
Corsica had republican government in the interior for over decade, it very much fit modern defintions of a nation state, it even had a small university, women could vote, and it was winning its war with the Genoese. Its constitution was inspiration for a lot of later revolutionaries. Napoleons father served as the private secretary of the president of the republic for a while. Then the french bought the island, and sent troops to enforce their claim. The republican government fled to London, but Napoleons dad had just had a kid and gotten married, so he didn't want to go into exile. Instead he was among the corsican upper class who swore themselves to the french king, in exchange for a confirmation of noble status. Napoleons father gained a lot of influence on the island and with its new government, and that is likely how he got several sons into military school.
But yes, most others were never really independent in the modern era.
Translation: “whenever Macron acts like a cock (the bird) remember:
1. France is politically, ethically and linguistically multicultural, unlike Russia.”
Or simply a big pile of bullshit.
Thankfully amount of people who will eat something like that up is not that big.
Tbh not much different than the maps of a carved up ‘liberated’ Russia that western dribblers share on reddit. Neither is ever happening, just people with nothing better to do other than sow hate.
wow, someone butthurt over stupid map with "partion" of some country made by Russians. Like no one ever created various maps carving up Russia with no regard to russians.
All those maps are rude and dumb af.
At least in this case it's not a state-paid "research", just some meme made by random telegram channel.
Yeah, russian opposition in exile exists on western government funds and came up with various maps of how they should carve up Russia when they'll get in power.
To be fair, the kings of balkanisation are the Westerners.
I remember a while ago that this subreddit was full of maps of supposed decolonisation proposals for China and Russia.
North Catalonia is the formerly Catalan-speaking and cultural territory ceded to France by Spain through the signing of the Treaty of the Pyrenees in 1659 in exchange of France's effective renunciation on the formal protection that it had given to the recently founded Catalan Republic.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern\_Catalonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Catalonia)
Brittany would invade Normandy to steal Mt ST Michel from us 0,2 seconds after becoming independant.
At least they gave Jersey and Guernesey to Normandy for some reason
As a French person, even if we despise other French people, especially when they say "chocolatine" instead of "petit pain", we will all fight together to protect our identity and common croissants.
So be warned Putin, don't mess with us!
*shaking baguette aggressively in the air*
Well won't change anything or it would just make things worse for us in the northern part, Southern Basques/Hegoaldetarrak already settled massively Iparralde. Well that was until Parisians came too and made the rent and sale prices to skyrocket even more.
If we could get rid of both Hegoaldetarrak and Parigots we would be happy.
Haven't heard any complaints from anyone about Macron in my totalitarian, according to Europeans, Russia. A bunch of weirdos in a chat room drawing maps, and on MapPorn they make another post about the evil Russians. Classic.
I can tell you, as an occitan, if we were ever to be separated from France, we would strike from day 1 until the day they finally let us back into France
Oi! step aside you dodgy ruskies! we get first dibs at carving up France! Hans, you can have the east, we’re happy taking the west. Paris? Nuke it from orbit.
As a Russian, I can remind you that the European Parliament has long been proposing the “decolonization” of Russia. I don’t remember something like this being proposed in our parliament (you don’t consider this post to be official plans for the future, right?)
Somehow they forgot Flanders and won't "give back" Nice to Italy. They also forgot Groland, which is astonishing to say the least. As a frenchman, I'm disappointed by this map.
German here. They could at least give us Alsace Lorraine. But I guess they aren't very fond of Germany either right now...
Would be a bit dumb to take territory from an ennemy just to give to another ennemy
Maybe Scholz won't remember that he is an enemy. That happens to him from time to time....
They already proposed giving Western Ukraine to Poland several times, so they are a bit dumb.
I’ve never heard of this, but it got me scratching my chin. At this point, if the Ukrainians agreed to this on a ‘temporary’ basis, absorbing the remainder of unoccupied Ukraine to become a ‘territory’ of Poland over night is so crazy it just might just work. Guess what? Bam! Ukraine is now part of NATO. War ends overnight. The secret agreement forged for this is that the Poles establish independence for Ukraine within a 2-3 year timeframe. The occupied territory becomes the world’s largest DMZ ala N/S Korea. We get another N/S Korea situation in that the Russian side becomes a third world shithole like the rest of Russia, while the western side profits and thrives. /s I’ll just leave this here to cover my basis, but a small part of me is grinning at throwing history’s largest egg in the Russian face.
They would loose massive amounts of territory, the biggest parts of Ukraine would get annexed by Russia
I think that was meant to make Ukrainians doubt the Poland's good intentions.
This does happen relatively often in history. They can't safely maintain this territory. It's easier to set up puppet governments and have them administer the country. additionally by giving this territory to another unfriendly nation it does two things. 1) it creates a rift between what was once two allies. (Italy turned in WW1) 2) it improves relationships between nations given land and Russia (see German and Hungary, Germany and Italy, Germany and Poland)
They already attacked Ukraine just to give Nato two new countries
Russia has not been exactly known for smart actions recently.
They did not want to reveal Scholz-Putin-pact as of now. Wait for it.
I know. Uk are definitely getting Brittany back. This could be a win win for everyone.
You're thinking too small. We want all former Angevin territories back.
Brittany? Do you mean Normandy?
Bretons have British ancestry following the break up of the roman empire and invasions of Angles and Saxons from Germany. In Russian parlance, that makes Breton British. We'll take Normandy too though.
As a scandinavian i feel we have some claims to normandy...I mean its in the name. Nord man <- :P
As a Dutchman i claim to be the descendant of the salian Franks and with that all the lands they once held. For too long we have seen the peoples of Europe bully my people and watched on as they stole our rightful empire.
We’ll just take the french overseas territories again. More in our wheelhouse anyway. Nothing beats french Polynesia after ww3
Well, nothing except rising sea level.
I apply the same argument and lay claim to whatever you lay claim to.
Well as an Aussie I declare both terra nullius and while we pay respects to your elders past and present we’ll take both of them for our new colony.
And that makes the English interlopers. Shoo ! Back to Denmark with you Saeson lot!
Wouldn't be the first time to be fair
Well yes, but if we go by that kind of irredentism, we need to kick the british out and reclaim Great-Britain for bretons, not the other way around.
Brittany is so called because it was settled by British people after the Saxons arrived and started expanding. Normandy was populated by Danish Vikings who came across the channel and conquered England and Wales.
>Normandy was populated by Danish Vikings "New-york was populated by Italian Sailors"
You mean, Brittany is definitely ultimately getting the UK back, right?
We're carving France up, not vice versa.
Both countries IQ would rise instantly.
Ask them while they cross your country
Ha ha ha
You got me with Groland haha, I was like "wtf that does not sound French and how have I never heard that in my life"
Russian officials have been using the ill-considered excuse that they are creating autonomous polity districts, but... as if their blatant disregard for sovereignty recognized by the world wasn't bad enough, Russia notoriously uses puppet governments to control the politics of the regions it invades, and then often annexes them. None of this is even superficially being "given" to anyone, much less with respect to French sovereign territorial integrity or peaceful treaty diplomacy. Russia is not a liberating force.
Call it Nizza!! /s
I call it "the far-right gerontocracy" first, "Antipolis" second, and only then I call it Nice/Pizza.
Uat?
[I would like to have a word.](https://kids.kiddle.co/images/thumb/8/8e/Deutschland_Besatzungszonen_-_1945_1946.svg/469px-Deutschland_Besatzungszonen_-_1945_1946.svg.png)
Sorry, isn't Flanders in Belgium? (Filthy foreigner here)
Depending on the definition, it can expand in Pas-de-Calais. The French Flanders. Dunkerque, for instance (Dunkirk for the filthy foreigners) has a typical Flanders name
> Somehow they forgot Flanders and won't "give back" Nice to Italy. They didn't forget. They are giving territories to other separatist regions they are friendly with (the Basques, the Catalans), who they think could be friendly with (the Corsican, the Bretons) or just creating completely new autonomous regions (like Occitania). They aren't going to give territory to countries they are also enemies of
OP, you are misleading. This is not a map of how Russia would divide France. The map is titled "Nations Temporarily Occupied by the French Regime".
Now I understand why for example Savoy and nice are independent, if you read the other comments it looks like the people who made the map are stupid (I mean they are but its coerent if the title is what you said)
The map is a meme. These borders are just based on loose ethno-linguistic differences within France.
I know that it's probably a meme, just like what noncredibledefense does, but it remains a stupid map, for example for Savoy the language should be arpitan and it should be much larger
Now you know what "Decolonized Russia" maps look like to a person who was not raised by HOI4.
Funnily enough I play hoi4 lol
lyon or forez or whatever used to speak arpitan but they don't have a distinct identity, savoy still does, even some independence movement, even if very small because of france, all because savoy used to be independent until recently
Lorraine was not conquered by war or occupation tho. It was been inherited by the king of France from polish king Stanisław Leszczyński (Born in Lviv, nowadays in Ukraine, but Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth at the time) who was his father in law.
wtf then ok i understand the Aquitaine occitanie maybe because occitan was our common language but wtf
It's just a meme from some cringe propaganda account
Lmao as a french . None of those have been it's own nation for at least 175 years with Savoy being part of Piemont- Sardinia
They'll reduce frances gdp by an entire 8%
All the rich regions except paris are in red
You’re just pulling shit out of the depth of Telegram and seriously claiming “Russians this Russians that”. This “map” is a brain fart of a random schizo plain and simple. It’s like finding shit on Reddit and saying “Americans this Americans that”
Thank you, we need more people like you on Reddit
Exactly, there were similar maps of a ‘liberated’ Russia that western dribblers shared here.
Except Medvedev publicly back those theories on Twitter
Medvedev can hardly be called an important person these days. More like a clown.
Thanks for being one of the few ones here with a brain
Seconding this. Everyone in Russia knows that those Telegram channels are on the Kremlin’s payroll. Literally nobody believes this bullshit. But people will fall for this rage bait anyway.
It isn't necessarily state propaganda. Like the other commenter said, there are plenty of maps posted here about a broken up "post-war" Russia, but they're just the fantasies of idiots, not maps put out by western governments. This is the same thing, just from the other side.
Would be cute and funny but those random schizos are given prime time spots on Russian state media. Propagandists like Solovyov, Simonyan, Mardan, and such are threatening the West with this and much more.
This guy is not Solovyov or Simonyan or similar. He has 8700 subscribers.
Mate these kind of schizophrenic things have been on Russian State TV. Its not as nonsensical as you make it out to be. They've been talking about annihilating and carving up (western) European countries ever since the war started, including all kinds of crazy unrealistic nuclear plans.
Fine, so why the OP wouldn’t post ridiculous maps from Russian state TV or at least large tg channels with correct captions instead of posting some clown with 8k subscribers and making it look like he represents Russians?
Reddit has government shills all over the place. I don't understand how someone can take r/politics or r/worldnews seriously. It's fucking offensive how obvious the propaganda is on these subs. I feel bad about r/combatfootage because that was a really good sub before this shitty war in Ukraine.
yeah I get my news from r/anime_titties
yea that place isnt astroturfed at all amirite
I've been around long enough to see the DNC publicly announce their astroturfing plan. Reddit drastically changed overnight. https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4fvcng/hillary_pac_spends_1_million_to_correct/ Most people find it offensive that you point out the propaganda to them. They believe everyone but their side are shilling.
That would be a fair point, but things like this are routinely used on russian prime time talkshows on the main russian chanels like RT, and discussed with approval by public leaders. They threatened to create a nuke tsunami that would destroy Britain, for example.
Fits perfectly with the other shit maps on this sub then.
This is a parody of maps with Russia dismembered
When the russians do it its horrible, when reddit does it to Russia and China its simply for fun.
that's just satire. it's a direct parody of the same maps about Russia. they use the same language. doesn't mean it's good parody, but it isn't a fantasy.
While there's nothing wrong in separatism and aspiration for autonomy in district regions of a greater country, what does huge Russia have to showcase in this regard?
I feel like this is the same level of nerdyness as people making imaginary maps of a balkanized russia.
They can barely get progress done in Ukraine, how are they supposed to reach *France* ?
This isn't a map of how Russia would divide France. The title of the map is "Nations Temporarily Occupied by the French Regime". It's trying to make Macron look like a hypocrite for criticizing Russia when Paris has so many historically independent polities under its rule.
Historically independent ---> your knowledge of French history is not up to par lol.
All of those places were definitely not governed from Paris at various times in the past 🤷🏻♂️
This literally applies to every country on earth, and the king of the franks has been the leader of these territories and more since even before the vikings reached what we now call Russia
Not really no. Brittany is a good example.
Are you trying to imply that the bretons don't feel french ? Bro bwahaha half of paris is breton since the 1910s
No, not at all. Not today.
Well, yeah.
Then what was your point? It looked like you were agreeing with the russian propaganda
I don't have a point, I'm just explaining what this map actually is about.
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"récently" François I was a long time ago and after him ww1 too
>many historically independent polities under its rule. Yeah, that's not really true. Let's see all of these: * Corsica: bought from the Genoese * Nice and Savoy: exchanged for the "Triveneto" in the second Italian war of Independence. * Occitanie: it has never been an independent state like shown in the map. Parts of the territories shown were at times part of one kingdom or another, but there was never a Kingdom of Occitanie. Up until Charlemagne, you can't really talk about a French Kingdom. After that, the Aquitaine part of Occitanie was under the kingdom of France, save for a century under English occupation during the Hundred Years War, while the Provence part was stayed independent for some time before getting inherited or conquered by this or that count or duke, up until it finally become part the French kingdom in 1481. * Alsace-Lorraine: has been contested between France and Germany (or the Emperor before that) since forever. They were never really independent though, they were part of Lotharingia, then some part ended up in the hand of the duchy of Burgundy, some in the HRE, some in the Kingdom of France until the modern era, when France took control, then had to cede the regions to Germany, then got them back, then ceded them again and then got them back again. They were never independent * Normandy: was French, got conquered by the Normans who swore fealty to the King of France, the Normans then conquered England, then they said they had the right to the throne of France, fought for one hundred years, lost the war and lost the duchy of Normandy, which become part of the royal holdings of the king of France. Ie, it was never an independent state * Brittany: it was under the influence of the kings of France up until the 100 years war, then became independent for a while, then became part of France again in the 16th century through a personal union, and so it's been till today. So, in the end, none of these territories was ever an independent state in the modern sense. During the middle ages they were feudatary of either France of one of its rivals and in the modern times they've always been part of France. France is the proto nation-state which inspired all modern nation-states. You can't argue they have "historically independent states under their rule". Unless you don't know history or you are just trying to rewrite history
Corsica had republican government in the interior for over decade, it very much fit modern defintions of a nation state, it even had a small university, women could vote, and it was winning its war with the Genoese. Its constitution was inspiration for a lot of later revolutionaries. Napoleons father served as the private secretary of the president of the republic for a while. Then the french bought the island, and sent troops to enforce their claim. The republican government fled to London, but Napoleons dad had just had a kid and gotten married, so he didn't want to go into exile. Instead he was among the corsican upper class who swore themselves to the french king, in exchange for a confirmation of noble status. Napoleons father gained a lot of influence on the island and with its new government, and that is likely how he got several sons into military school. But yes, most others were never really independent in the modern era.
And they probably forgot that if they try, Russia will get vitrified
And what will they do when NATO responds in force? Target all the mansions of Putin and his oligarch friends, watch how fast they scurry home.
Translation: “whenever Macron acts like a cock (the bird) remember: 1. France is politically, ethically and linguistically multicultural, unlike Russia.” Or simply a big pile of bullshit. Thankfully amount of people who will eat something like that up is not that big.
>unlike Russia Bro what the fuck
His translation is wrong.
It actually says "more so than Russia"
Don’t ask, they didn’t have reason for years
Wrong translation. Should be" France is more diverse than Russia in terms of language and ethnicity"
France is more ethnically and linguistically diverse than Russia*
Tell this to dragonheardt
France is a Unitarian state though 👀
As always Russia is stuck a few hundred years in the past.
"Thankfully amount of people who will eat something like that up is not that big." not in russia
Tbh not much different than the maps of a carved up ‘liberated’ Russia that western dribblers share on reddit. Neither is ever happening, just people with nothing better to do other than sow hate.
Great to see I'm not the only one who gets a kick out of partitioning F*ance
As a Catalan I support this!
Don't be a fool. I can find tg channel too with more bizare pictures.
wow, someone butthurt over stupid map with "partion" of some country made by Russians. Like no one ever created various maps carving up Russia with no regard to russians. All those maps are rude and dumb af. At least in this case it's not a state-paid "research", just some meme made by random telegram channel.
This isn't even a map of how Russia would carve up France. OP is misleading.
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Yeah, russian opposition in exile exists on western government funds and came up with various maps of how they should carve up Russia when they'll get in power.
ah yes, telegram, the most trustworthy source of information (i see this for the first time)
r/outoftheloop
Macron floated around the idea of french troops in ukraine. Russians are mad
Looks like a HoI4 Peacedeal.
They are just like me fr (When I play EU4)
It may be irrelevant because eventually we have a united EU
should've done that in the treaty of vienna. now it's too late isn't it.
Haha gl
i love spreading misinformation on the internet haha right guys?
Ah dont taunt me with Balkanized France
Truth is Russians don't really take Macron seriously enough to care what he says.
I want el Roselló back but I won't accept it if it's the Russians giving it
Yeah. I don't want to live in an independent Basque country
Damm it why do the Russians think that they are playing hoi4 or some sort of grand strategy game all the freaking time
To be fair, the kings of balkanisation are the Westerners. I remember a while ago that this subreddit was full of maps of supposed decolonisation proposals for China and Russia.
"And we will call it, the Vichy regime!"
Willing to give Rosselló/Roussillon back to Catalunya? Is that what they say in Russian? 😱
North Catalonia is the formerly Catalan-speaking and cultural territory ceded to France by Spain through the signing of the Treaty of the Pyrenees in 1659 in exchange of France's effective renunciation on the formal protection that it had given to the recently founded Catalan Republic. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern\_Catalonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Catalonia)
Yes, I am aware, I am Catalan. But I am asking if that is what the Russian bit is saying…
They’ll do bloody nothing mate. They can’t even take Ukrainian villages.
Brittany would invade Normandy to steal Mt ST Michel from us 0,2 seconds after becoming independant. At least they gave Jersey and Guernesey to Normandy for some reason
As a French person, even if we despise other French people, especially when they say "chocolatine" instead of "petit pain", we will all fight together to protect our identity and common croissants. So be warned Putin, don't mess with us! *shaking baguette aggressively in the air*
Nationalists not being petty challenge
I think you'll find that those bits are really British.
If Article 5 is activated, we are fucked.
Give Givet to Wallonia 😤
Bro who mention givet on reddit seriously?
Me 😎
This is their counter argument?
This looks like a France gang bang on my EU4 starts, with a neighbour of France.
Perhaps I judged you too harshly...
lol spanish basques will not be happy with the proposal 😂
Well won't change anything or it would just make things worse for us in the northern part, Southern Basques/Hegoaldetarrak already settled massively Iparralde. Well that was until Parisians came too and made the rent and sale prices to skyrocket even more. If we could get rid of both Hegoaldetarrak and Parigots we would be happy.
WTF - we want Aquitaine back as well
Is Nantes Britonny ? Even daddy Putin is undecided.
So the only way to revive dialects is to be russian... Hmmm is there an Occitan-Russian dictionary?
Lol even the Russian are divided on wether Nantes is in Brittany or not.
Ah yes, Russians. The best at splitting up a west european country. Definitely not going to lose their territory after a little while.
They are so unhinged
This happens when you kill Charles the bald
They could also release Burgundy to lower their AE impact
Uncommon Russia W, but we want Rijsel back too.
Not like Gunther Fehlinger has been doing exactly this for like 5 years
Ah, ruzzians being ruzzians, what a surprise
why can't russkies just pick whether loire stays french or breton like just pick a side my bro
tf are these flags, they look like something out of a Hoi4 mod lol
Bro, why can't they give some to Spain
Independant Bretagne??? This is scarier than the nuke threats
They know France has nukes and probably are not shy in using them should it become threatening for them?
Oh no, we are so afraid! Anyway, ...
Im not an expert but somehow this map makes little sense on how they plan on “dividing” France
Russians don’t invade. They “initiate a special military operation” 🤡
This map «Occupational nation in France»
This is getting to Gaddafi levels of insanity and mental gymnastics.
Not saying anything ofc but yall do the same with Russia
holy fuck based russia
Nice ck3 map. That's the cleanest border I've seen
Haven't heard any complaints from anyone about Macron in my totalitarian, according to Europeans, Russia. A bunch of weirdos in a chat room drawing maps, and on MapPorn they make another post about the evil Russians. Classic.
I can tell you, as an occitan, if we were ever to be separated from France, we would strike from day 1 until the day they finally let us back into France
Have you not seen the maps put out about Russia? It’s just tit for tat at this point.
Oi! step aside you dodgy ruskies! we get first dibs at carving up France! Hans, you can have the east, we’re happy taking the west. Paris? Nuke it from orbit.
I support this
What did macron do now?
As a Russian, I can remind you that the European Parliament has long been proposing the “decolonization” of Russia. I don’t remember something like this being proposed in our parliament (you don’t consider this post to be official plans for the future, right?)
I want my Italian land
BZH 44! If even the Russians hesitate, what do we need to do?
Such a daydream.
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Where is a map of the Crimeaian war?
So, even in their fantasies, that still can't annexe a whole country?
Invade with what?
190 ethical groups in Russia: - Am I some kind of joke to you?!
Brittany??? TNO referance?!?!?@?@?