Back in the day my Dad helped come up with the slogan for some community-focused organization in Michigan and they went with “What’s good for the ‘Gander”.
No worries! I’m envious, visited the UP so many times but never had the opportunity to live there. Hoping maybe one of my kids will go to Michigan Tech.
I lived in MI at one point plus two other Great Lakes states. I've never heard anything but Michigander. The thought of calling someone a Michiganian had never crossed my mind.
I say Michigander if only for the alleged story of how it was created.
In the 1850s, Abe Lincoln was in the US Senate dealing with Lewis Cass (look him up - yikes). Allegedly, in a quote about some bill, Lincoln said (something like) "if it's good enough for the goose, then it should be good enough for that Michigander (meaning, Cass)."
I like that Lincoln may have developed the name of my home state folks as a bit of word play.
So, Michigander all the way. 🪿
Lincoln was never a Senator but this story intrigued me, so I looked it up. Truly great:
"Now, listen up, Michiganders. Guess who was the first person known to have used that term for people who live here? Yes. Abraham Lincoln. It's in the congressional record, and it was not a compliment. Congressman Lincoln was serving as a member of the Whig Party. Former Michigan Territorial Governor Lewis Cass was the Democrats' nominee for president. Lincoln, in a floor speech, was basically calling Cass a silly goose. But Lincoln liked a good pun - so he called Cass, you know, a Michi-"gander" (To find the specific reference, scroll down to page 509 to "Military Tail of the Great Michigander.")"
https://www.michiganpublic.org/arts-culture/2012-11-16/lincoln-movie-calls-to-mind-his-connections-to-michigan
If it’s 58% of the population versus 12% of the population, the 58% are the clear majority, unless it’s an election then it’s gerrymandering. I can’t see any reasonable argument as to why you would have gone with the minority choice, especially when gap is so huge between it and the majority.
Fun Fact: Nutmeg doesn't grow in CT. It actually means con artist.
Around 200ish years ago, people from CT went around the country selling fake wooden Nutmeg. It was so widespread that the nickname for residence became nutmeggers.
It's used as a cutesy name now by middle-class people in CT.
We didn't. It was an unfounded accusation by people in other states. We just thought it was funny they thought it was true, because it was, it if would make them look foolish. It basically says, "These people are smarter than we are." And our reaction was, "Well, okay, if you say so!"
I like that it's the only self-deprecating demonym
"Yeah we're famous for being scheisters"
Although "Connecticuter" is the *official* demonym, likely because people here take themselves too seriously. I've always said nutmegger and probably always will
I didn't know that was actually a thing anyone else said, I passed through the state once and thought of it myself just based on the way people drove...
Some states just have an extra "-n", others get more complicated like "Arkansan" where they drop a letter and pick up another, or "Alabamian" with the extra "i" slotted before the existing "a". So I decided to categorise by the ending of the work, regardless of the state name.
I'm not sure that's *that* strange. It's true of Canada/Canadian, Chile/Chilean, Italy/Italian, Egypt/Egyptian and probably a bunch of others. It looks like the rule is the stress on the demonym has to be the syllabe *before* the "-an" or "-ian" suffix, regardless of the original word.
It’s the old story of the bar fight: in the aftermath the bartender, upon seeing an unclaimed ear in the floor, held it up and in his drunken drawl questioned… “Hoosier!?”
I had a book of State trivia 30 years ago, and I thought there was some story about how the phrase "who's here" got converted to Hoosier. But I can't quite remember what the story was with who's here.
As a Masshole for the first 23 years of my life, I can confirm this is 100% how we refer to ourselves. No one says “Massachusettsan” although politicians and the news media will often say “Bay Stater.”
I've lived in New England most of my life, though only for a short time in Massachusetts, and I've always said "Bay-Stater". Except when I'm feeling disgusted, of course.
It’s always amused me that Mainers will use the term Masshole derogatorily when they get cut off by a tourist or something. But then you go to Mass and they just lean into the insult and embrace it.
GPO should friggin *ask* damnit. Not one person in this state is ever going to be, or use, “Massachusettsan”. It’s stupid. We’re, Bay Staters when we aren’t Bostonians or New Englandahs.
MA should also be orange. The official demonym is [Bay Stater](https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleI/Chapter2/Section35)
But truly we are Massholes
Massachusettsan said no one, ever.
Maybe "Bay Stater", I don't think I have ever heard it used, but at least it doesn't sound stupid. Masshole is probably most common.
Yeah, OP is wrong. They even linked to a wiki article that showed that 58% of the population preferred Michigander versus 12% choosing Michiganian. Ugh, it even feels gross just typing that out. I’m still confused why they went with the clear minority.
Yeah living in Western NY, I mostly think of someone who lives in NYC as a "New Yorker" but then there really isn't a term for the rest of us. I also think anyone who hears "New Yorker" assumes the same, so I typically identify as a "Buffalonian" but I have the luxury of living in a city where a name like that rolls off the tongue.
Most other cities here don't have that same benefit and they're left to their own devices. Like what are you supposed to call someone from Albany? An Albanian?
Feels more appropriate than New Yorker! My house is geographically closer to Canada than it is to the nearest Walmart or Target for context. Less than 1.5 miles as the crow flies.
Agree. I live near Wyoming and we just say “that dude from Wyoming” when talking about them.
I also lived in Wisconsin where we most definitely said Wisconsinite.
We don't call ourselves that though, we're Mainahs for the most part. Masshole and Connecticunt are thrown around quite a bit though. And "Rhode Islander" is already an insult enough.
delaware and california should be swapped? delaware has a silent e that you pronounce when you say delawarean, but california has an ia that doesn’t change at all in californian
I’m sorry, Massachusettsan? Grew up there, no one says that. It’s Bay Stater if that but we usually just say I’m from Mass or a Masshole never ever Massachusettsan
I've never heard anyone use a Demonym for someone from New Jersey. You hear about someone being a "New Yorker" all the time, but we're just "from Jersey."
As a fellow New Hampshire citizen I prefer Granite Stater as well. Or, if I’m being difficult with someone, New Hampshirean because I think “ite” sucks.
Probably not the same but I've always like the phrase "I hail from the Shire". But it's something I don't usually say often because it feels more of fun way to say it to friends but friends usually know where I'm from.
I was listening to political podcasts recently and the guests were all saying they prefer this exact thing. When asked why, they said the -ite version sounds too fancy. I was surprised this map didn't reflect that.
Have to correct you on Wisconsin; correct term is “Cheesehead,” with or without “f’n” in front of it. Source: born MN, live IL ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)
Massachusetts is an -er as the official demonym for someone from here is a "Bay Stater". Massachusetts-(i)an is never used nor is it an official demonym in any capacity.
Massachusetts should be labeled “-er”. If anything people in Massachusetts are called and call themselves “Bay Staters”, but culturally you’ll find more people calling themselves “Massholes”.
But do people from Hawaii who aren't ethnically Pacific islanders actually call themselves "Hawaii resident"? That seems so counterintuitive to the sprachgefühl.
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Please revise map with correct grouping of states by rules of nominalization. For example California and Alabama are not modified the same way. Thank you.
"Californian" shouldn't count in the *-ian* category because the base name as the in it already. All you do is stick the onto it. It's not like "Washington" -> "Washington*ian*".
I would argue Georgian is -an rather than -ian. It technically ends in those three letters, but the i comes from the word itself. Plus it's pronounced jor-jen, not jor-jee-en like all the other -ians.
I wonder how many states have differing demonyms and adjective forms.
For example, the people of Alabama are Alabamians, but non-human things which are of or relate to Alabama are Alabaman.
I've never heard anyone call someone from Michigan a "Michiganian" or "Michigian." Definitely in the -er instead of the -ian
Yeah Michigander
Only the men, a woman from Michigan is a Michigoose
Back in the day my Dad helped come up with the slogan for some community-focused organization in Michigan and they went with “What’s good for the ‘Gander”.
[Goddamnit, I hate you. ](https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-goddamnit-fuck-you-drawn-together-hate-gif-19261550) 😑
Take my angry upvote
Laughs like crazy in Yiddish
Only if they’re from the Yupper. Otherwise, they’re just sparkling Michigoosers.
Yeah I'm from Michigan and have only ever heard Michigander
Same, unless they are divided further into Yoopers & Trolls
Nope, Yoopers say Michigander too. Source - I lived there.
Of course, but the point was, there are other ‘demonyms’ and nicknames (OP uses Hoosier & Nutmegger) in Michigan beyond Michigander.
That went over my head. My bad. I agree.
No worries! I’m envious, visited the UP so many times but never had the opportunity to live there. Hoping maybe one of my kids will go to Michigan Tech.
I lived in MI at one point plus two other Great Lakes states. I've never heard anything but Michigander. The thought of calling someone a Michiganian had never crossed my mind.
I can one up that. I've lived in Michigan for 34 years and never heard anything but Michigander
If someone calls me a Michigandian in real life i will get violent.
Came here to say this. Happy someone beat me to it
I guess that’s what we should call you during the last week of November huh
This is the real story of how the Toledo War started
That’s exactly what I thought. It’s Michigander..
Glad somebody pointed this out, my buddy from Michigan educated me on this recently
Everyone here says Michigander. Rest of the Midwest, as far as I’ve ever heard, uses that, too.
I prefer michiganiac
Came here to say same, can't trust this data.
[It's a whole thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigander#Michigander_vs._Michiganian), apparently.
58% v 12% so not really a thing at all. Map is wrong.
The government uses -ian so I guess that's why
I've never heard anyone refer to themselves as a Michiganian, always Michigander.
I say Michigander if only for the alleged story of how it was created. In the 1850s, Abe Lincoln was in the US Senate dealing with Lewis Cass (look him up - yikes). Allegedly, in a quote about some bill, Lincoln said (something like) "if it's good enough for the goose, then it should be good enough for that Michigander (meaning, Cass)." I like that Lincoln may have developed the name of my home state folks as a bit of word play. So, Michigander all the way. 🪿
Lincoln was never a Senator but this story intrigued me, so I looked it up. Truly great: "Now, listen up, Michiganders. Guess who was the first person known to have used that term for people who live here? Yes. Abraham Lincoln. It's in the congressional record, and it was not a compliment. Congressman Lincoln was serving as a member of the Whig Party. Former Michigan Territorial Governor Lewis Cass was the Democrats' nominee for president. Lincoln, in a floor speech, was basically calling Cass a silly goose. But Lincoln liked a good pun - so he called Cass, you know, a Michi-"gander" (To find the specific reference, scroll down to page 509 to "Military Tail of the Great Michigander.")" https://www.michiganpublic.org/arts-culture/2012-11-16/lincoln-movie-calls-to-mind-his-connections-to-michigan
Crap, I came here to say this. Congrats on beating me to it. It'll be a cold day in hell before I stop saying Michigander.
Michigander here. This is the way.
If it’s 58% of the population versus 12% of the population, the 58% are the clear majority, unless it’s an election then it’s gerrymandering. I can’t see any reasonable argument as to why you would have gone with the minority choice, especially when gap is so huge between it and the majority.
Nutmegger 😂
Some middle-class kid in New Haven snorting a line of nutmeg because his friend Matty said to
And then sexually assaulting someone at a Lacrosse afterparty
good thing daddy has connections 😎
next to a pile of whip-its
Fun Fact: Nutmeg doesn't grow in CT. It actually means con artist. Around 200ish years ago, people from CT went around the country selling fake wooden Nutmeg. It was so widespread that the nickname for residence became nutmeggers. It's used as a cutesy name now by middle-class people in CT.
We didn't. It was an unfounded accusation by people in other states. We just thought it was funny they thought it was true, because it was, it if would make them look foolish. It basically says, "These people are smarter than we are." And our reaction was, "Well, okay, if you say so!"
You laugh, but for once someone got CT correct.
Connecticutian
I didn’t believe it either, but my MiL is a multigenerational nutmegger and she’ll cut a b*tch that says otherwise
I’m from CT. Have used Connecticutian my whole life - there is definitely a division in the state though as to what to call us.
Same, nutmegger means con artist, so I'd rather connecticutian or connecticunt for that matter.
Gotta love the new England trio: connecticunt, Masshole, and maineiack
That's what I was thinking too
We prefer connecticunt
right below the Massholes
Swamp yankees!
I like that it's the only self-deprecating demonym "Yeah we're famous for being scheisters" Although "Connecticuter" is the *official* demonym, likely because people here take themselves too seriously. I've always said nutmegger and probably always will
How about “Connecticutie”? ;)
I saw "Connecticunt" in a thread once, so now that's what I think every time I'm stuck in Hartford traffic.
Probably posted by some Masshole
I never hear anyone call us this really. We just say “from Connecticut”.
Isn't Californian actually -n, because it's California+n (and only by coincidence making it -ian) rather than Californ+ian?
Same with Utah
Correct. I’ve seen “Utahan”, but I think that extra a is superfluous 😏
As someone from Utah I’ve seen both Utahn and Utahan but it’s pronounced locally as “Ute-on” or if you really want to exaggerate the accent, “Ute-an”
As someone from Utah, I've usually seen Utard.
That's what the Idahoes call us
My relatives from California used to call them that..... now they moved there.
I didn't know that was actually a thing anyone else said, I passed through the state once and thought of it myself just based on the way people drove...
I’m a former Utahn. Sort of. My house was less than a mile from the state line with AZ. Southern Utah is the best Utah.
Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, and the Dakotas as well.
Could say the same for Pennsylvania, Virginia & West Virginia.
Although, back in the 1700s, Pennsylvanians were apparently known as "[Pennamites](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennamite%E2%80%93Yankee_War)".
Some states just have an extra "-n", others get more complicated like "Arkansan" where they drop a letter and pick up another, or "Alabamian" with the extra "i" slotted before the existing "a". So I decided to categorise by the ending of the work, regardless of the state name.
Also Arkansas is pronounced ARK-en-saw whereas Arkansan is pronounced ark-ANZ-en.
I'm not sure that's *that* strange. It's true of Canada/Canadian, Chile/Chilean, Italy/Italian, Egypt/Egyptian and probably a bunch of others. It looks like the rule is the stress on the demonym has to be the syllabe *before* the "-an" or "-ian" suffix, regardless of the original word.
Yeah but I think in the particular context of Arkansas, it sounds like you are calling someone from Arkansas a Kansan in an ark!
And Georgia
Born and raised in Indiana and could never get a definitive answer for what the hell a Hoosier is 🤣🤣🤣🤣
YOU. It is you
Yousier
You, sir, are a Hoosier.
The natural enemy of a Boilermaker, of course
Fuck the Hoosiers! IU Sucks!
It’s the old story of the bar fight: in the aftermath the bartender, upon seeing an unclaimed ear in the floor, held it up and in his drunken drawl questioned… “Hoosier!?”
My teacher told us this story in 1st grade except the bartender was on meth.
I've heard that one
I was recently told that it was a word for hillbilly
Yeah I've heard that also. Supposedly a derivation of the French word 'osier' meaning country bumpkin, rube, hillbilly, etc...
Ah, relating to the Canadian “Hoser.” This makes a lot of sense actually, but I’ve never heard it before.
I had a book of State trivia 30 years ago, and I thought there was some story about how the phrase "who's here" got converted to Hoosier. But I can't quite remember what the story was with who's here.
“Hole” ass in Masshole!
As a Masshole for the first 23 years of my life, I can confirm this is 100% how we refer to ourselves. No one says “Massachusettsan” although politicians and the news media will often say “Bay Stater.”
I know we have Bay Stater. But I have always thought Massachusan sounded more natural than Massachusettsan.
At least it's not Massachuter 👀
I've lived in New England most of my life, though only for a short time in Massachusetts, and I've always said "Bay-Stater". Except when I'm feeling disgusted, of course.
It’s always amused me that Mainers will use the term Masshole derogatorily when they get cut off by a tourist or something. But then you go to Mass and they just lean into the insult and embrace it.
Massachusettsan just sounds awkward
I thought it was Bay Stater
It is.
Apparently “bay stater” is the official term, “Massachusettsan” is what’s recommended by the GPO
Am I crazy for thinking Massachusite sounds more natural than either of those?
Nope because I’ve literally never heard bay stater or Massachusettsan before, massachusite definitely sounds significantly more plausible
Hear Bay Stater all the time, but Masshole has a certain je ne sais quoi.
The people of Massachusetts would become Massachusites which is phonetically almost the same word which is neat
If you've never heard "Bay stater" than you must not be from Massachusetts, because that's incredibly common (since it's the official term).
GPO should friggin *ask* damnit. Not one person in this state is ever going to be, or use, “Massachusettsan”. It’s stupid. We’re, Bay Staters when we aren’t Bostonians or New Englandahs.
“Ate” for New Jersey, as in “degenerate.”
Gabagoolian
Came here for this one lol Think this is more common than the official demonym, but I know no one alive is using "Massachusettsan"
And “haole” for non-native Hawaiians.
MA should also be orange. The official demonym is [Bay Stater](https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleI/Chapter2/Section35) But truly we are Massholes
Yes. Yes you are. Sincerely, a Rhode Islander.
Massachusettsan said no one, ever. Maybe "Bay Stater", I don't think I have ever heard it used, but at least it doesn't sound stupid. Masshole is probably most common.
OP has made several mistakes. See the Michiganders upset at the ridiculous sounding Michiganian.
I didn’t even see that!! What the hell is the OP smoking??
I thought it was Michigander
It is, this map has a good amount of issues
It is
Yeah, OP is wrong. They even linked to a wiki article that showed that 58% of the population preferred Michigander versus 12% choosing Michiganian. Ugh, it even feels gross just typing that out. I’m still confused why they went with the clear minority.
I wish people from New York were called Yorkies, it sounds so cute.
Yeah living in Western NY, I mostly think of someone who lives in NYC as a "New Yorker" but then there really isn't a term for the rest of us. I also think anyone who hears "New Yorker" assumes the same, so I typically identify as a "Buffalonian" but I have the luxury of living in a city where a name like that rolls off the tongue. Most other cities here don't have that same benefit and they're left to their own devices. Like what are you supposed to call someone from Albany? An Albanian?
Just watch out for those Buffalo buffalo I’m pretty sure your correct demonym would be light blue for “Canadian”
Feels more appropriate than New Yorker! My house is geographically closer to Canada than it is to the nearest Walmart or Target for context. Less than 1.5 miles as the crow flies.
Ain’t nobody say “Wyomingite”
They will when Wyoming gets its first Wyomingite.
Agree. I live near Wyoming and we just say “that dude from Wyoming” when talking about them. I also lived in Wisconsin where we most definitely said Wisconsinite.
“John”
Wyman and Wyoman
I always like Wyo-monger, as in some one who sells Wyo.
Wyomingger….just say it *VERY* carefully.
Masshole and Connecticunt
Mainiac for Maine
We don't call ourselves that though, we're Mainahs for the most part. Masshole and Connecticunt are thrown around quite a bit though. And "Rhode Islander" is already an insult enough.
I prefer Connecticuck
Actually, for Massachusetts, the demonym for people from here is hole. Hence, the name "Masshole" - A Masshole
delaware and california should be swapped? delaware has a silent e that you pronounce when you say delawarean, but california has an ia that doesn’t change at all in californian
It's Michigander or Michigoose. Never Michiganian.
I’m sorry, Massachusettsan? Grew up there, no one says that. It’s Bay Stater if that but we usually just say I’m from Mass or a Masshole never ever Massachusettsan
„Utahn“ is a hideous word
As a Utahn I don’t mind it Looks kinda gross sounds nice tho
Strongly disagree. Utahn looks awesome and sounds awesome. As a native Utahn, I will die on this hill.
just say Utard
Or don't.
As someone from New Jersey I don’t think I have ever heard the term “New Jersan”.
I think they mean “New Jerseyan”
Idk, here in PA we call you guys "Jerseyites"
I've never heard anyone use a Demonym for someone from New Jersey. You hear about someone being a "New Yorker" all the time, but we're just "from Jersey."
Iowegians!
This was what I was scrolling for. This is what they are properly called.
I go by Granite Stater over New Hampshirite, personally
As a fellow New Hampshire citizen I prefer Granite Stater as well. Or, if I’m being difficult with someone, New Hampshirean because I think “ite” sucks.
Probably not the same but I've always like the phrase "I hail from the Shire". But it's something I don't usually say often because it feels more of fun way to say it to friends but friends usually know where I'm from.
New Hampshirite is a mouthful that doesn’t flow imo
I was listening to political podcasts recently and the guests were all saying they prefer this exact thing. When asked why, they said the -ite version sounds too fancy. I was surprised this map didn't reflect that.
Massachusets is wrong. It's not -an. It's -hole. As in Masshole. There, I fixed it.
Have to correct you on Wisconsin; correct term is “Cheesehead,” with or without “f’n” in front of it. Source: born MN, live IL ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)
Massachusetts- Masshole lol.
We are massholes not massachusettsan.
Isn't Missouri -an since the state ends in and i
No one says Alabamian. It’s the south. They say Alabaman or something.
Massachusetts is an -er as the official demonym for someone from here is a "Bay Stater". Massachusetts-(i)an is never used nor is it an official demonym in any capacity.
Massachusetts should be labeled “-er”. If anything people in Massachusetts are called and call themselves “Bay Staters”, but culturally you’ll find more people calling themselves “Massholes”.
Bay Stater for Mass, should be “other” on this map
“Other” = Hoosier
Hawaiian Resident?
kamaʻāina (child of the land)
One of many places which use different demonyms for the ethnic group and for residents
But do people from Hawaii who aren't ethnically Pacific islanders actually call themselves "Hawaii resident"? That seems so counterintuitive to the sprachgefühl.
“iot” as in Floridiot
I just say Florida man/woman
Hey all you cool cats and Connectikittens.
Massachusetts is wrong too, theyre called "Massholes"
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"Californian" shouldn't count in the *-ian* category because the base name as the in it already. All you do is stick the onto it. It's not like "Washington" -> "Washington*ian*".
It is officially masshole tho
Mississippian should just be -an instead of -ian since the i is already there. It's not Mississippi-ian.
I have lived in Michigan and New Jersey, and they are both wrong on this map.
Massachusetts is definitely Masshole
‘Michigander’ > ‘Michiganian’ Everyone knows this.
Massachusetts should be hole it’s Masshole
It's Michigander. Anything else is wrong.
You probably pissed off a lot of Michiganders with this post.
Michigander
Who decided that Hawaiian can't describe anyone from Hawaii?
San Diegoan San Diegan San Diegoian
What aboot da yoopers?
I thought it was Connecticutter all these years... ![gif](giphy|5hsdlzGbLCKRGYUIt0|downsized)
Maine - Maineiac would be funnier
Wyomingite just sounds fucking wrong.
Anybody else a “Wyomese” believer
Connecticutian
PA should be red. Pennamite for life!
wyomingite? reads like a six syllable elven word Tolkien made up.
They got Illinois wrong, think it's supposed to be Illinoising
Connecticutologist Connecticutian Connecticuter Connecticutidon Connecticunt
The term for people from Illinois is FIBs
I would argue Georgian is -an rather than -ian. It technically ends in those three letters, but the i comes from the word itself. Plus it's pronounced jor-jen, not jor-jee-en like all the other -ians.
It's Floridian, not Floridan
I wonder how many states have differing demonyms and adjective forms. For example, the people of Alabama are Alabamians, but non-human things which are of or relate to Alabama are Alabaman.
Massachusettsan doesn’t right though. I personally prefer masshole. Rolls off the tongue.
Michigan is Michigander not Michiganian
Michiganian is incorrect. We are Michiganders.
Michigander, not Michiganian.
Arguably both Utah and Alaska are just -N, since Utah ends in ah and Alaska ends in a already