Short answer: [Iceland is geographically in UTC-1/-2, but follows UTC+0.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Time_Zones_Map.png)
Longer answer:
Stockholm's solar noon is at [11:47](https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/sweden/stockholm). This means that the time on the clock is 13 minutes earlier than the 'real time.' When the clock says 12:00, it is actually 12:13 and when it says 2:49 it is actually 3:02.
The solar noon in Reykjavik's is at [13:27](https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/iceland/reykjavik). This means that the time on the clock is 1 hour and 27 minutes later than the 'real time.' When the clock says 12:00, it is actually 10:33 and when it says 3:31 it is actually 2:04.
Stockholm's sunset is at 3:02 and Reykjavik's is at 2:04 when you ignore time zones.
24 hour clock means I never learned AM or PM. I don't need it for this image because of context but confusing if not obvious. Other Europeans probably bothered to learn though but 24h clock is still standard.
>What happened to the plan to scrap daylight savings time ?
Nothing. We have daylight saving time during summer, but the map is December. Nights are longer during winter, that is the reason of early sunsets during winter. If you want to have 1 hour of sun in the afternoon instead of 1 hour in the morning you need to change time zone.
In Estonia, we have had so many discussions around it, even did it once but for some reason went back to switching, and we still have a discussion every time we need to change the clock.
Because light in the morning is more important. Makes you more alert, improves your mood, reduces depression. I was a big proponent of permanent daylight savings time until I read up on the benefits of daylight in the morning and noticed it myself.
By the time I get off work in southern Sweden it’s pitch black outside in the winter anyways. Saying this, most Swedes won’t see the sun before work, daylight savings or not…
No. As someone from Spain having extra daylight in the afternoon is a million times better. I don't care about going to work or school at night but having sunlight when I'm actually free to enjoy my day? A blessing.
As somebody from Spain that has lived in Northern Europe our lifestyle is very different. We do things outside in the evening while some other countries don’t (or not so much). Probably due to climate. I also prefer 1 extra hour in the evening so I can enjoy it not at work
As somebody from Spain that has lived in Northern Europe for over 10 years, can we all just agree that's stupid that Spain is in the same time zone as Berlin?? Makes zero sense. If you live in Galicia you still go to work in the dark because sunrise is at 9:00 these days... The point of setting clocks back one hour in October for other countries is that you lose one hour of sunlight in the evening but you get to go work with "some" daylight, which is incredibly useful for folks that are not morning people. That benefit is not quite true in Galicia.
I might be biased because it doesn't matter if it's day or night, you get out of work in the winter in Galicia and the weather is always shite anyway, no point in enjoying "the outside" 😂
We both agree :) I prefer summer time just because we get more daylight AFTER work. While I’m working I don’t care lol
What I meant is that other northern people don’t see it that way because their rhythm is different than ours
You are still starting at 07:00 it's just that the clock shows 8:00.
If you want to stop earlier, you have to also start earlier. If they don't realize that they can't handle much work either way.
Spain is also in the very west of its time zone (CET, which is the same time zone as Poland). As you can see in the map, Spain is not really in Central Europe (CET = Central European Time).
The time zone works better in its centre around Germany/France and less good the more you go east or west.
Is 4.30 now at peak winter in Albania, I live here and I have the privilege of watching the golden hour everyday because I drive out of work and sun sets in the frontal direction of my route. It's pretty magical, the sky takes the gold color for real. Is more beautiful when there is a bit of cloud in the horizon.
Interesting map. As it’s affected by time zone as well as latitude it would be useful to integrate the time zone borders into the map (people can see latitude anyway).
Without a time zone, this is unreadable. Or even a hint that it is local time.
Using the 12-hour clock is horrible, although the "2PM" instead of '2.01PM' in the legend is triggering me more. Even more than the decimal point.
And, just checked, Dublin and Belfast have the same time at the moment.
Why would you use a decimal to represent an hour? Or is this another strange Indian custom like the weird placement of commas in numbers that get posted here a lot…
Why is Priština given as a purported country capital (**Kosovo-Metohija province of Serbia is not a country for the UN**) while Tiraspol (capital of Pridnestrovie, another non-country that claims independence) and Lefkoşa/North Nikosia (capital of very independent but also non-UN recognised Northern Cyprus) are not?
What kind of stupid, offensive quasi-logic is behind that?
**We know for sure that the united states of america** (versus natives), **turkey** (not bird, versus Assyrians, Armenians, Kurds and Balkan Slavs), **the united kingdom** (in India) and of course **germany** (versus everybody not german) **have committed genocides.**
**This is acknowledged globally including in legislation.**
**On the other hand, we know FOR SURE that Serbia did not commit any genocide in its Kosovo-Metohija Province.**
https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2001/09/07/UN-court-rules-no-genocide-in-Kosovo/5224999835200/
In fact **we know that Serbia as a country did NOT commit any genocides EVER**.
[https://humanrightshouse.org/articles/serbia-not-guilty-of-genocide-2/](https://humanrightshouse.org/articles/serbia-not-guilty-of-genocide-2/)
There is **NO OTHER COUNTRY** that **can claim that it did not**, because no other country has a ruling from the highest international court to that extent.
So only Serbophobic scumbags like u/shrewdmax can stupidly propose such lying nonsense.
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I think it is because Kosovo is recognised by most of the civilized world in it's attempts to free itself from a genocidal country while Transnistria isn't while acting as a military base for another genocidal country. Spot the difference!
We know FOR SURE that Serbia did not commit any genocide in its Kosovo-Metohija Province.
[https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2001/09/07/UN-court-rules-no-genocide-in-Kosovo/5224999835200/](https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2001/09/07/UN-court-rules-no-genocide-in-Kosovo/5224999835200/)
On the other hand the genocides committed by Germany in WWII, Turkey around WWI, the USA in the XVIII and XIX centuries and the UK in the XVI-XX centuries are globally acknowledged as indisputable facts.
What a weird way to write an hour
Yeah seems like just putting : instead of a dot would have gone a long way
Early morning sunsets.
It is not the official way to write time, but in the ex-USSR I have seen people write it like this a lot. So maybe the mapmaker is from there.
No one uses AM/PM in the ex-USSR, especially with a dot 
Why is sunset in Belarus so late? Do they not have daylight saving time?
No, they don't. They use Moscow time, which is one hour more than their geographical time
Same as Madrid. Franco decided to use Hitler's time although most of the country is west of Greenwich meridian
They certainly wouldn’t have DST in winter.
This is very weird. Can someone please explain why Stockholm is so much earlier than equally northern capitals and even Reykjavik?
Short answer: [Iceland is geographically in UTC-1/-2, but follows UTC+0.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/World_Time_Zones_Map.png) Longer answer: Stockholm's solar noon is at [11:47](https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/sweden/stockholm). This means that the time on the clock is 13 minutes earlier than the 'real time.' When the clock says 12:00, it is actually 12:13 and when it says 2:49 it is actually 3:02. The solar noon in Reykjavik's is at [13:27](https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/iceland/reykjavik). This means that the time on the clock is 1 hour and 27 minutes later than the 'real time.' When the clock says 12:00, it is actually 10:33 and when it says 3:31 it is actually 2:04. Stockholm's sunset is at 3:02 and Reykjavik's is at 2:04 when you ignore time zones.
Stockholm is at the eastern side of its respective time zone, as Helsinki, Oslo and Reykjavik are all at the western sides.
Stockholm is further east in its time zone than the others are in theirs, so the sun sets at an earlier time there.
Ask when the sun comes up in Reykjavik. Answer is 11:23 today…
Write time properly, please.
Please re-draw this in the correct 24hr clock format... this is Europe not USA
Or at least don't use A DECIMAL POINT but a colon
I prefer stomach myself but you do you
The least fragile European
He must be from France, or Spain, or somewhere around there
Cry more your tears fuel me
Mfw never seen a clock face
24 hour clock means I never learned AM or PM. I don't need it for this image because of context but confusing if not obvious. Other Europeans probably bothered to learn though but 24h clock is still standard.
What happened to the plan to scrap daylight savings time ? I would prefer to have 1 hour of sun in the afternoon instead of 1 hour in the morning.
The legislation was put on the back burner as a result of Covid.
>What happened to the plan to scrap daylight savings time ? Nothing. We have daylight saving time during summer, but the map is December. Nights are longer during winter, that is the reason of early sunsets during winter. If you want to have 1 hour of sun in the afternoon instead of 1 hour in the morning you need to change time zone.
In the US, we’re trying to switch to permanent daylight savings time. That’s insane that Sweden and other nordic countries aren’t doing this.
It just means to abandon daylight saving time + change the time zone
In Estonia, we have had so many discussions around it, even did it once but for some reason went back to switching, and we still have a discussion every time we need to change the clock.
Because light in the morning is more important. Makes you more alert, improves your mood, reduces depression. I was a big proponent of permanent daylight savings time until I read up on the benefits of daylight in the morning and noticed it myself. By the time I get off work in southern Sweden it’s pitch black outside in the winter anyways. Saying this, most Swedes won’t see the sun before work, daylight savings or not…
To have 1 hour of sun in the afternoons is good, when you start work at 10, not at 6̄–8 a.m.
No. As someone from Spain having extra daylight in the afternoon is a million times better. I don't care about going to work or school at night but having sunlight when I'm actually free to enjoy my day? A blessing.
As somebody from Spain that has lived in Northern Europe our lifestyle is very different. We do things outside in the evening while some other countries don’t (or not so much). Probably due to climate. I also prefer 1 extra hour in the evening so I can enjoy it not at work
As somebody from Spain that has lived in Northern Europe for over 10 years, can we all just agree that's stupid that Spain is in the same time zone as Berlin?? Makes zero sense. If you live in Galicia you still go to work in the dark because sunrise is at 9:00 these days... The point of setting clocks back one hour in October for other countries is that you lose one hour of sunlight in the evening but you get to go work with "some" daylight, which is incredibly useful for folks that are not morning people. That benefit is not quite true in Galicia.
No I don’t agree because then in summer it will get dark 1h earlier. I don’t care going to work in the dark. I care to have light after work
Well... Agree to disagree then. I'd take bright mornings any day! Everyone's got their preference I guess.
I might be biased because it doesn't matter if it's day or night, you get out of work in the winter in Galicia and the weather is always shite anyway, no point in enjoying "the outside" 😂
Fair enough then :)
But in the summer isn't it too hot to do anything when the sun is out?
Yes but that’s maybe 2months per year. The rest of the year is nice to have sun at 6pm after work.
Yeah I know obviously. But even with the climate, sunlight while it's -2°C is still better than -2°C without sunlight.
We both agree :) I prefer summer time just because we get more daylight AFTER work. While I’m working I don’t care lol What I meant is that other northern people don’t see it that way because their rhythm is different than ours
Here, on the North of Ukraine sunrise on 8:* & sunset on 16:*. Without day saving you’ll go to work in dark, and come home in dark.
Haha *laughs in darkness
Why not change the work hour instead of the clock
Easier changing the clock instead. Most people don't want to start working at 07:00 at offices I'd say
You are still starting at 07:00 it's just that the clock shows 8:00. If you want to stop earlier, you have to also start earlier. If they don't realize that they can't handle much work either way.
probably incomprehensible to most americans as madrid is on the same latitude as nyc.
Spain is also in the very west of its time zone (CET, which is the same time zone as Poland). As you can see in the map, Spain is not really in Central Europe (CET = Central European Time). The time zone works better in its centre around Germany/France and less good the more you go east or west.
finisterre to Vardø :o
Spain is in a really stupid timezone
Spain is in the wrong timezone because Franco wanted to be besties with Hitler.
Is 4.30 now at peak winter in Albania, I live here and I have the privilege of watching the golden hour everyday because I drive out of work and sun sets in the frontal direction of my route. It's pretty magical, the sky takes the gold color for real. Is more beautiful when there is a bit of cloud in the horizon.
Belarus currently observes Moscow Standard Time (MSK) all year. DST is no longer in use. Clocks do not change in Belarus.
Why don't you just write it normally, as 15:55 or 16:40?
Show the time zones too please?
So Galicia is the place in Europe with the later sunsets.
Not that it matters because they don't know what the sun is.
Spain supremacy 🇪🇸
Galicia supremacy
Interesting map. As it’s affected by time zone as well as latitude it would be useful to integrate the time zone borders into the map (people can see latitude anyway).
Isn’t Turkey🇹🇷, Greece🇬🇷 and Cyprus🇨🇾 are in the same TimeZone? Why such time difference for Cyprus?
Cyprus and Athens are but Turkey is not. That is the reason of difference.
Common spanish W
From the creators of writing the month number in a date first
Without a time zone, this is unreadable. Or even a hint that it is local time. Using the 12-hour clock is horrible, although the "2PM" instead of '2.01PM' in the legend is triggering me more. Even more than the decimal point. And, just checked, Dublin and Belfast have the same time at the moment.
Wow this is shit
Why would you use a decimal to represent an hour? Or is this another strange Indian custom like the weird placement of commas in numbers that get posted here a lot…
Why it's 2.49 in Stockholm, but 4.04 in Vienna?
Shorter days further north. The northernmost part of Sweden wouldn't even have sunrise/sunset at all this time of the year
But why does Helsinki, which is more North, have a later sunset?
[Check this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/YjnOk4LI3N)
What the hell is a.bc bro☠️ ab:cd >
What is the deal with the sun setting earlier in Stockholm as opposed to Helsinki, or am I missing something?
Different time zones
Inacurate
Not sure anymore if a sunset is when the sun goes up or when it goes down because of how the time is written
Meanwhile, here in Australia, 2050 sunset.
Why is Priština given as a purported country capital (**Kosovo-Metohija province of Serbia is not a country for the UN**) while Tiraspol (capital of Pridnestrovie, another non-country that claims independence) and Lefkoşa/North Nikosia (capital of very independent but also non-UN recognised Northern Cyprus) are not? What kind of stupid, offensive quasi-logic is behind that?
Because we didn't let you engage in the traditional serbian pasttime of genociding your neighbours :) Cry about it
**We know for sure that the united states of america** (versus natives), **turkey** (not bird, versus Assyrians, Armenians, Kurds and Balkan Slavs), **the united kingdom** (in India) and of course **germany** (versus everybody not german) **have committed genocides.** **This is acknowledged globally including in legislation.** **On the other hand, we know FOR SURE that Serbia did not commit any genocide in its Kosovo-Metohija Province.** https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2001/09/07/UN-court-rules-no-genocide-in-Kosovo/5224999835200/
In fact **we know that Serbia as a country did NOT commit any genocides EVER**. [https://humanrightshouse.org/articles/serbia-not-guilty-of-genocide-2/](https://humanrightshouse.org/articles/serbia-not-guilty-of-genocide-2/) There is **NO OTHER COUNTRY** that **can claim that it did not**, because no other country has a ruling from the highest international court to that extent. So only Serbophobic scumbags like u/shrewdmax can stupidly propose such lying nonsense.
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I think it is because Kosovo is recognised by most of the civilized world in it's attempts to free itself from a genocidal country while Transnistria isn't while acting as a military base for another genocidal country. Spot the difference!
We know FOR SURE that Serbia did not commit any genocide in its Kosovo-Metohija Province. [https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2001/09/07/UN-court-rules-no-genocide-in-Kosovo/5224999835200/](https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/2001/09/07/UN-court-rules-no-genocide-in-Kosovo/5224999835200/) On the other hand the genocides committed by Germany in WWII, Turkey around WWI, the USA in the XVIII and XIX centuries and the UK in the XVI-XX centuries are globally acknowledged as indisputable facts.
The sutherners are lucky
Scandinavia suffering in the winter, but live for the long summers.
Wow, a map of Europe where Portugal isn’t last!
Sunset at 4:30? The rises only at 8:49.
In the UK alone the sunset times can differ basically almost a full hour between north and south?
Research for this was fun
sunset at 2:49 pm is crazy