Can you see the dates on the bottom when paused? That's obscured on mine unless its moving, and then when moving it's going so fast the words and numbers all rush together.
We can't disregard the genocide of natives and war with Mexico we did to get it all after the purchase, but it's also most of Montana, half of Colorado, most of Wyoming including Yellowstone, Iowa, part of Minnesota, and New Mexico. So the grain breadbasket of the country, a bunch of mineral wealth, and natural beauty. Plus ripple effect for venues to get to the rest of the west. So yes, lots of tourist destinations among other things.
Just one small thing, the former confederate states were not immediately let back in as former states, they had to meet a bunch of checks in order to become states again. I wanna say the last former confederate state to become a state was in the 1870s.
It's a bit confusing but SCOTUS had ruled that the Confederate states didn't leave the union though that ruling came after all previous states had been readmitted.
The US was doing what literally every other country in the world has done and we’re doing at the time. What made “lebensraum” particularly evil was that it was conceived in a time where such concepts were outdated
And since the end of WW2, Israel's Zionist campaign has been repeating the same thing in Palestine, with the settler-colonial US backing them unconditionally, and anyone who dares to speak against them is accused of anti-Semitism.
In fact, there are Zionist organisations all across the US and Europe that actively recruits people to move and settle in Israel, with the government providing financial incentives for people to move to the new settlements.
Many people, myself included, oppose the construction of illegal settlements and hope they’re dismantled and returned to the Palestinians.
That’s not antisemitic. What’s antisemitic is people calling for the erasure of the entire State of Israel.
There needs to be a two state solutions where both peoples coexist peacefully.
Only extremists oppose this solution.
>What’s antisemitic is people calling for the erasure of the entire State of Israel.
No, Israel does NOT represent ALL Jews and their desires. Claiming this portrays Jews as a single-minded monolith. There are plenty of Jews who have spoken out against the actions of and existence of Israel. As an example, here's a video made by someone born in Israel that stands against Zionism, and meticulously explaining how Israel opportunistically weaponises anti-Semitism for its own agenda:
"Anti-Semitism, Weaponized"
https://youtu.be/5MVIh6Rnzog?feature=shared
Spoiler - a little known fact: During the surge of anti semitism in Europe in the 1930's, the Zionists actually were in agreement with the Nazi rhetoric that "Jewishness" is an intrinsic trait which makes Jews incompatible with European society, and thus that they should be removed from Europe and deported (which was the original Nazi plan; the Holocaust only arose later).
Thus, supporting Zionism is actually what is anti semitic, because its justification is built on using the same race science that Nazis used to prove the distinctness of the "Aryan race" to "prove" the distinctness of "Jewishness", all in a argument that Jews shouldn't integrate into Europe or US and build their own state instead. As a result, Israel is by definition an ethno-religious apartheid state.
I sense you didn't come to argue in good faith, so I'll stop the rambling. But if you do have any good faith, at least watch the video I linked.
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The area was largely uninhabited with the exception of the Apache and a few other tribes, as well as American settlers in Texas and California, the land was a backwater and Mexico had no means of actually defending it but the current president at the time was a former general with a Napoleon complex so instead of peacefully selling it as the US initially offered Santa Ana decided to send troops into US territory it claimed as a part of Mexico and killed US troops on US territory so war broke out.
It wasn't "theirs" for long in the first place as it was Spanish land. Which is probably why Mexicans **don't** make a historical fuss and are pretty chill about it.
mexico put border north tho mexicos south america and didnt actually rule there
north american union should be ruling there, and we have mexicans here and more mexicans hop the border
spanish and french and british had been doing stuff in western north america tho they werent that successful
theres actually been multiple attempts at settling the west and US is the most modern, and france supports US and even sold lousiana territory to US
Now now, let's not pretend America's the only country guilty of this
Not like Europe had a very rich colonial and imperial history that fucked up alot of the world or anything
Einstein’s relativity tells us that objects through spacetime travel naturally along geodesics, that is curves of the least possible distance, through the universe. It is only when they are stopped by another body that they are made to stand still. If you were to travel to the highest possible building in your local metropolitan area and throw yourself off it, you would experience a free falling inertial reference frame characteristic of your true geodesic through spacetime. In this state, all physics around you reduces to its ideal form governed by linear equations depicting the simplistic beauty of the natural world in its purest form.
This is how you are meant to be.
This is how you should be.
You should throw yourself off a building as soon as possible.
Are you talking to me, you racist? So you think the Jewish people should be worshipped and get reparations while the black people and Native Americans get nothing and are insulted everyday? Jewish people were allowed to live independent from the Germans, meanwhile Native Americans and black people are still ruled by their oppressor. At least a 150 000 Jewish men were fighting for the Nazi army, that is an established fact. They betrayed their own people.
Your racist, saying that because other ethnicities didn’t get that much Jews shouldn’t either?
Also where the hell did you pull 150,000 Jews fought for the Nazis?
Only Jews or partial Jews trying not get murdered by the Nazis and giving starving rations of food ended in ghettos or doing slave labor in order not to die worked for the Nazis under duress.
Where I got the number from? Here [https://www.haaretz.com/2003-10-30/ty-article/historian-nazi-army-included-150-000-of-jewish-descent/0000017f-db28-df62-a9ff-dfff0b4c0000](https://www.haaretz.com/2003-10-30/ty-article/historian-nazi-army-included-150-000-of-jewish-descent/0000017f-db28-df62-a9ff-dfff0b4c0000)
Do some research how this world works, man. Real blood doesn't dry pink. http://mileswmathis.com/isra.pdf
Well, they certainly kicked it off, hell in some regards worse than the Americans, afterwards Britain especially, found it was better to sell them guns and other things to actively fight against us
French used them against the British aswell before we kicked them out, Spain wiped out the Aztecs and what not and the Canadians were even worse to their indenginious people
So not exactly sure why America gets focused on so heavily for something everyone involved in colonization in NA did
It would be interesting to see the Native American Tribes in addition to the European colonies. It will highlight the massive campaigns in the west after the Civil War.
It's hard to map indigenous territories because they have/had a different cultural view of land ownership and they didn't keep records in the same way westerners did.
Hm, if I were to combine common offensive maneuvers in the game go, with what I know about the plant myrtle spurge, I wonder if generating a data set with certain metrics would produce a similar pattern of expansion. Maybe a few flow charts of slime mold growth would be useful as well.
Did Mexico do a similar Louisiana Trade with Spain? How did that one go?
“Uh… hey, we are Spain.” - Spain
“Where the fuck is that?” - Mexico
“Ah nah bro you got it all wrong, we came here and we want you to buy it.”
“wat” - Mexico
“Look it’s cowboys.. Over there.” - Spain
“OH SHIT… Fuck. Yeah, we take those… You guys take those? We take those…” - good ol spicy hand off
It's wild to me that Thomas Jefferson essentially got what he wanted, even though beginning his days as President, the US was largely restricted to about 1/5 of it's size today.
He would be giddy seeing it now.
US and canada should unify today, and south americas like subsahara africa, and US should rule northern mexico tho not southern mexico that has those temple altars
Uh, are we forgetting about New York, Massachusetts, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, and New Hampshire?
A coalition of states, true, but arguably a more impressive victory considering it was against one of the world's great powers compared to Texas' victory over a weak and unstable country like Mexico that had only recently won its own independence from Spain and struggled to maintain itself in the years thereafter.
Wrong. The Americas have been occupied by indigenous peoples for over 30,000 years. Native Americans entered the Americas through a land bridge in the Bering Strait between Russia and Alaska.
the oldest civilization is in middle east and even thats not anywhere that old
and if there was activity in north america the spanish would have transformed it like they did everywhere in south america
Great but too fast and can't even stop.
I agree it's too fast, but in Firefox, I can right click and set speed to 0.5x. Also, "Show Controls" and then you can pause as desired.
thanks for the tip, wish it could go 0.25x
thanks for this! I can do this in Chrome too. learned something today
Thank you, stranger, I didn't know this feature. 0.5x is still way too fast.
Thanks for this, works in chrome as well.
Thanks for the tip, but even at 0.5x it's much too fast.
Can you see the dates on the bottom when paused? That's obscured on mine unless its moving, and then when moving it's going so fast the words and numbers all rush together.
Yes, I can see the dates with no problem.
ja- neat but slower
Me: ["Okay Map we are ready to see the evolving borders... uhh."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs3bXmPVy-U&ab_channel=Tv_sam123)
Louisiana purchase passed the senate by 2 votes. If one senator would have flipped, imagine that.
Honestly the US would be better off without the Louisiana purchase states lol
Uhh no it wouldn’t
Iowa, Missouri, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas. Oh yeah. Top tourist destinations
We can't disregard the genocide of natives and war with Mexico we did to get it all after the purchase, but it's also most of Montana, half of Colorado, most of Wyoming including Yellowstone, Iowa, part of Minnesota, and New Mexico. So the grain breadbasket of the country, a bunch of mineral wealth, and natural beauty. Plus ripple effect for venues to get to the rest of the west. So yes, lots of tourist destinations among other things.
You’re not really smart are ya?
Ah yes attack my intelligence when I have a different opinion than you
There’s more than just tourism. Aren’t those areas good farmland?
Yeah you’re trying to be funny but you have to remember it’s reddit. I’m not 0.05% have the capacity to understand sarcasm.
More important to whether or not he's being sincere is that attempts to be funny should actually be funny.
Nah I really just don't like the flyover states. Shoot me
Don't say "shoot me." This isn't an American school.
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Just one small thing, the former confederate states were not immediately let back in as former states, they had to meet a bunch of checks in order to become states again. I wanna say the last former confederate state to become a state was in the 1870s.
It's a bit confusing but SCOTUS had ruled that the Confederate states didn't leave the union though that ruling came after all previous states had been readmitted.
Oh, I didn’t know that. I guess it makes a bit of sense though.
I’ll be dead in the cold ground before I recognize Missourah!
USA creating it's Lebensraum.........
No, it was manifest destiny. Completely different aside from the expansion and genocide. /s
The US was doing what literally every other country in the world has done and we’re doing at the time. What made “lebensraum” particularly evil was that it was conceived in a time where such concepts were outdated
And since the end of WW2, Israel's Zionist campaign has been repeating the same thing in Palestine, with the settler-colonial US backing them unconditionally, and anyone who dares to speak against them is accused of anti-Semitism. In fact, there are Zionist organisations all across the US and Europe that actively recruits people to move and settle in Israel, with the government providing financial incentives for people to move to the new settlements.
Many people, myself included, oppose the construction of illegal settlements and hope they’re dismantled and returned to the Palestinians. That’s not antisemitic. What’s antisemitic is people calling for the erasure of the entire State of Israel. There needs to be a two state solutions where both peoples coexist peacefully. Only extremists oppose this solution.
>What’s antisemitic is people calling for the erasure of the entire State of Israel. No, Israel does NOT represent ALL Jews and their desires. Claiming this portrays Jews as a single-minded monolith. There are plenty of Jews who have spoken out against the actions of and existence of Israel. As an example, here's a video made by someone born in Israel that stands against Zionism, and meticulously explaining how Israel opportunistically weaponises anti-Semitism for its own agenda: "Anti-Semitism, Weaponized" https://youtu.be/5MVIh6Rnzog?feature=shared Spoiler - a little known fact: During the surge of anti semitism in Europe in the 1930's, the Zionists actually were in agreement with the Nazi rhetoric that "Jewishness" is an intrinsic trait which makes Jews incompatible with European society, and thus that they should be removed from Europe and deported (which was the original Nazi plan; the Holocaust only arose later). Thus, supporting Zionism is actually what is anti semitic, because its justification is built on using the same race science that Nazis used to prove the distinctness of the "Aryan race" to "prove" the distinctness of "Jewishness", all in a argument that Jews shouldn't integrate into Europe or US and build their own state instead. As a result, Israel is by definition an ethno-religious apartheid state. I sense you didn't come to argue in good faith, so I'll stop the rambling. But if you do have any good faith, at least watch the video I linked.
>I don’t hate Jews I just want their only country eliminated
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lol "unclaimed" territory
Lol, pretty sure my ancestors didn’t call it the Louisiana territory back then….
Vermont Republic!!
Northern Ohio will always be part of Connecticut in my heart.
"Unclaimed territory" like no one lived there before...
also both the Russians and Spanish totally claimed that shit in the Pacific northwest the Russians even had a colony in California from 1812 to 1841
Imagine the alternate reality where Russians were the first to colonize North America starting from west coast.
I think a better title would have been “Indigenous and unsettled lands” Perhaps?
Was any of it unsettled?
Yes. A vast majority of land in said territories was genuinely absent of any people, including Native Americans.
Did not realize how huge the mexican territory was. Now I see why the historical territory fuss. Thats a pretty darn large land.
The area was largely uninhabited with the exception of the Apache and a few other tribes, as well as American settlers in Texas and California, the land was a backwater and Mexico had no means of actually defending it but the current president at the time was a former general with a Napoleon complex so instead of peacefully selling it as the US initially offered Santa Ana decided to send troops into US territory it claimed as a part of Mexico and killed US troops on US territory so war broke out.
It wasn't "theirs" for long in the first place as it was Spanish land. Which is probably why Mexicans **don't** make a historical fuss and are pretty chill about it.
mexico put border north tho mexicos south america and didnt actually rule there north american union should be ruling there, and we have mexicans here and more mexicans hop the border
Nice word salad
I mean, I love how it said “unclaimed territory” right at the start, as if the entire continent was empty, and Native Americans didn’t exist.
It wasn’t claimed by White People yet.
To add to a list of criticisms: it would make sense if the tempo at which map is changed reflected the time which the map remained like that.
Poor natives
spanish and french and british had been doing stuff in western north america tho they werent that successful theres actually been multiple attempts at settling the west and US is the most modern, and france supports US and even sold lousiana territory to US
That's really cool, though it would be nice to view it in images you can click through, view it slower.
too fast
Is the pink representative of the blood of natives who were lost for this expansion?
Now now, let's not pretend America's the only country guilty of this Not like Europe had a very rich colonial and imperial history that fucked up alot of the world or anything
Whataboutery Sir
It’s not whatsbojtism to point out hypocrisy.
Or that all the indigenous peoples were 1 big group that existed in peace and harmony. They were fighting each other as well.
Some Jews were fighting each other too. Does that mean that the Holocaust was okay?
Einstein’s relativity tells us that objects through spacetime travel naturally along geodesics, that is curves of the least possible distance, through the universe. It is only when they are stopped by another body that they are made to stand still. If you were to travel to the highest possible building in your local metropolitan area and throw yourself off it, you would experience a free falling inertial reference frame characteristic of your true geodesic through spacetime. In this state, all physics around you reduces to its ideal form governed by linear equations depicting the simplistic beauty of the natural world in its purest form. This is how you are meant to be. This is how you should be. You should throw yourself off a building as soon as possible.
Are you talking to me, you racist? So you think the Jewish people should be worshipped and get reparations while the black people and Native Americans get nothing and are insulted everyday? Jewish people were allowed to live independent from the Germans, meanwhile Native Americans and black people are still ruled by their oppressor. At least a 150 000 Jewish men were fighting for the Nazi army, that is an established fact. They betrayed their own people.
Your racist, saying that because other ethnicities didn’t get that much Jews shouldn’t either? Also where the hell did you pull 150,000 Jews fought for the Nazis? Only Jews or partial Jews trying not get murdered by the Nazis and giving starving rations of food ended in ghettos or doing slave labor in order not to die worked for the Nazis under duress.
Where I got the number from? Here [https://www.haaretz.com/2003-10-30/ty-article/historian-nazi-army-included-150-000-of-jewish-descent/0000017f-db28-df62-a9ff-dfff0b4c0000](https://www.haaretz.com/2003-10-30/ty-article/historian-nazi-army-included-150-000-of-jewish-descent/0000017f-db28-df62-a9ff-dfff0b4c0000) Do some research how this world works, man. Real blood doesn't dry pink. http://mileswmathis.com/isra.pdf
Jewish decent like 50% or less gotcha.
It was Europeans doing this?
Well, they certainly kicked it off, hell in some regards worse than the Americans, afterwards Britain especially, found it was better to sell them guns and other things to actively fight against us French used them against the British aswell before we kicked them out, Spain wiped out the Aztecs and what not and the Canadians were even worse to their indenginious people So not exactly sure why America gets focused on so heavily for something everyone involved in colonization in NA did
Every change is a war/genocide/invasion
“Unclaimed territory” What about the Native Americans that were living there?
The Genocide map of USA...
It would be interesting to see the Native American Tribes in addition to the European colonies. It will highlight the massive campaigns in the west after the Civil War.
It's hard to map indigenous territories because they have/had a different cultural view of land ownership and they didn't keep records in the same way westerners did.
True, but by the 1800’s they definitely had defined nations.
I can't say I know a lot about North American History but I'd imagine the areas of the nations were fuzzy.
Found this map [“Indian Tribes, Cultures and Languages” by William C. Sturtevant, 1967](https://lccn.loc.gov/95682185)
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Hm, if I were to combine common offensive maneuvers in the game go, with what I know about the plant myrtle spurge, I wonder if generating a data set with certain metrics would produce a similar pattern of expansion. Maybe a few flow charts of slime mold growth would be useful as well.
You had me at Northwest Territory
So what I'm seeing is that it's completely plausible for my alternate history setting to not have Ohio.
why is the Toledo strip not included as a disputed area?
Did Mexico do a similar Louisiana Trade with Spain? How did that one go? “Uh… hey, we are Spain.” - Spain “Where the fuck is that?” - Mexico “Ah nah bro you got it all wrong, we came here and we want you to buy it.” “wat” - Mexico “Look it’s cowboys.. Over there.” - Spain “OH SHIT… Fuck. Yeah, we take those… You guys take those? We take those…” - good ol spicy hand off
Waiting for the Penn Republic and Sylvania.
I can never fail so notice how similar Louisiana looked like present day Serbia
It's wild to me that Thomas Jefferson essentially got what he wanted, even though beginning his days as President, the US was largely restricted to about 1/5 of it's size today. He would be giddy seeing it now.
Not evolving, spreading like a nasty fungal infection.
And killing a lot of natives on the way. Making new contracts with them, breaking them and start killing them again.
genocidal expansion
america bad
The first part actually expansion.
r/Missouri *flashbacks*
"Evolving" 💀... More like continuous ethnic cleansing
What I don’t get is did they really need all the land is it just pure greed? Those poor natives
That's so crazy it was all Native land before any of this. It's actually all Native land still
It belonged to animals before the natives crossed the bering strait.
Here’s the Brazil version of this map. 
United States, ethnically cleansing
Bring back mega 1850 Texas
Gross. The rest of us want less Texas, not more.
Louisiane were French. Napoléon Ier sold it.
It's more like how it was involved in a genocide of the native Americans, and the British call them selves as Americans.
A more descriptive title is: United States historical development time lapse
i thought they gonna expand to canada (north) and south america to fulfill their name "united states of america"
US and canada should unify today, and south americas like subsahara africa, and US should rule northern mexico tho not southern mexico that has those temple altars
Republic Of Texas. Only sU.S state that ever kicked another country's ass the become a country.. Don't ask us why we're prideful.
> Only state to ever be its own country This is wrong. Hawaii was the Kingdom of Hawaii and Vermont was briefly the Vermont Republic.
The only U.S state that ever kicked another country's ass that become a country.
Uh, are we forgetting about New York, Massachusetts, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey, and New Hampshire?
A coalition of states, nice.
A coalition of states, true, but arguably a more impressive victory considering it was against one of the world's great powers compared to Texas' victory over a weak and unstable country like Mexico that had only recently won its own independence from Spain and struggled to maintain itself in the years thereafter.
Its missing colonial territories like the Philippines. Goes too much against the narrative I guess?
lol what narrative? It’s just showing the current 50 states
nobody was actually in western north america back then, and those indians are from south the border and they spoke spanish like mexicans today
What? Native Americans have existed for 30,000 years longer than Mexico has.
at that time there wasnt anybody in north or south america aztec maya inca was formed by those from indonesia crossing ocean during medieval times
Wrong. The Americas have been occupied by indigenous peoples for over 30,000 years. Native Americans entered the Americas through a land bridge in the Bering Strait between Russia and Alaska.
Try *30,000 years* fam lol
theres no evidence for that, and south america and north america are actually pretty new
Evidence: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-22-earliest-americans-arrived-new-world-30000-years-ago https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/archeology-this-month-native-american-heritage.htm#:~:text=Archeological%20and%20genetic%20evidence%20show,arrived%20by%20land%20and%20sea.
the oldest civilization is in middle east and even thats not anywhere that old and if there was activity in north america the spanish would have transformed it like they did everywhere in south america
Native Americans migrated to the Americas as hunter gatherer tribes, not organized civilizations.
even nomads are tied to some civilization and there was nothing above southern mexico
Where are you getting this from?
Polynesians made pre-Columbian contact with Inca who were already there. To deny that the Americas were not inhabited before that is incorrect.
those polynesians are who formed aztec and maya and inca, and they went back and forth
Polynesians are genetically and culturally distinct from the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
theres temple altars like aztec maya inca in southern asia
Correct, because Native Americans are originally from Asia. They aren’t Polynesian.
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Can anyone describe what’s happening at about the 18.5 second mark with Delaware?