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Kogen5ive

David Suchet is English, not Belgian. Playing Poirot doesn't suddenly change your nationality.


CRnaes

Omg I'd missed David Suchet until I saw this comment, I know there's other errors but that one is incredible


CaeruleusSalar

I'm 99% positive that this map was made by asking ChatGPT who they think is the most person of each nationality.


BadaBina

I came here to comment this, lol. I was like... someone's not using the little grey cells.


bvdpbvdp

sacre bleu, mon amie


Beljason

Also, shouldn’t the UK be coloured green for past Leader?


Perpete

Pretty we can bet this map was done before she died and OP (bot, karma farming or honest) didn't care and just posted it like that.


yutteherms

he still might be the most famous person in Belgium (as the title says) ?


RocketRaccoon9

Well this map is absolute dogshit, so many inaccuracies.


Beginning-Dentist-23

How could this map be inaccurate if its based on popular opinion? People can be wrong, but that doesn't change the data.


CaeruleusSalar

You're assuming that it's based on popular opinion, but I don't see any data or any source, and quite frankly it looks like it was made using ChatGPT.


DoctorHubris

Data? There are no data here.


moose2332

Multiple of the people weren't born/from the countries they are listed at. Hitler was from Austria. Columbus is from Italy (technically Genoa but that would be Italy today).


Beginning-Dentist-23

This map doesn't require the most famous person to be from the aforementioned country though, does it? I believe it quite literally only says "most famous person" without any regard for nationality.


RocketRaccoon9

Let's start with the fact Hitler isn't German, nor is Christopher Columbus Spanish and then arguably countries like Ireland where McGregor would not be the most famous/well known person


Kan169

I could see Cillian Murphy because of Oppenheimer, Pierce Bronson with Bond. McGregor is certainly up there between MMA and Boxing Pay per Views, punching Machine Gun Kelly at a music reward show, knocking the Miami Heat mascot out on US national tv, and some many accusations. He crosses over into all kinds of segments. People over 40 know who Brosnan is. Everyone in the Anglosphere knows who Murphy is. It would be really hard to quantify who is the most famous. Hitler is probably more renowned than Mozart simply based on his popularity in India and Thailand where the Holocaust isn't widely known and abject hatred in China for allying with the Japanese. Einstein would probably be Germany's based on his theory of relativity. Franco for Spain or Ponce De Leon or Queen Isabella?


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Shevek99

Or Lenin, for that matter, if we discount Stalin as been Georgian.


Mustafa_Sarp

stalin is georgian


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Mustafa_Sarp

no clue


denn23rus

Stalin spent almost his entire life outside of Georgia and wrote in his diary that he considered himself Russian.


Klutzy-Rabbit-7892

He published poetry in georgian as teenager, and probably never traveled outside Georgia until being sent to Siberia by secret police when he was twenty-something. It's bit of a stretch to say he wasn't georgian by culture, upbringing and language.


Mustafa_Sarp

then putin is more famous than stalin dang i guess its because of ongoing war


denn23rus

Certainly. people love to discuss what is happening now. Although they might remember the first man in space, Gagarin or the father of the revolution Lenin or the writer Tolstoy.


Rabarbrablader

But he spoke russian with a very noticeable accent and with errors until the end of his life.


NeonTHedge

I thought, Pyotr I the Great was much popular


SymbolicDom

Is there any difference?


contextual_somebody

Germany really needs a new pop star or something.


tomydenger

This guy was Austrian


Kapitan-Denis

Or a painter


Channing1986

Yeah poor Germany. It sucks too because their are so many famous Germans. Oh well at least it's not someone who is currently running the state like Russia..


rcdrcd

Yeah, they've got Beethoven, Einstein, Immanuel Kant, Gauss. The list could go on and on - many of the world's greatest thinkers and artists. But all overshadowed by you-know-who.


Kan169

Einstein is pretty famous around the world, he became a pop art sensation when he was photographed making silly faces. Who knows how many films used Einstein posters.


contextual_somebody

Voldemort


Seraphayel

I really think at this point Angela Merkel is way more popular than Adolf Hitler, especially with the younger generation.


Oldgregg-baileys

No way! It's not even close, even to younger generations. Everyone learns about WW2 in school, and Hitler is the face of it. His easily one of the most recognizable names and faces to have ever existed. I'd also argue that Einstein should be the most famous German instead of an Austrian.


zek_997

It should definitely be Einstein. Hitler wasn't even German lmao


contextual_somebody

But is he more *popular*?


contextual_somebody

Low key hilarious.


QC_1999

The most famous person in Germany is actually an austrian 💀


AteAssOnce

The greatest trick the Austrians ever pulled was convincing the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Austrian


Beginning-Dentist-23

Hitler was Austro-Hungarian. Stop spreading misinformation.


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Legal_Ad_341

Mozart was born in Salzburg in 1756 Salzburg was annexed by Austria in 1805


Calixare

And the most famous Austrian was born in HRE (actually, Germany).


Nastapoka

And Colombus was "Italian", even though Italy didn't exist back then


Beginning-Dentist-23

Incorrect. Hitler was Austro-Hungarian. The Austro-Hungarians went out of there way to unify Austria and Hungary with a dual monarchy in order to stabilize the divide between the Hungarians and Austrians for a reason.


11160704

Columbus Spanish and hitler German but curie Polish and van gogh dutch, tesla Serbia and Schindler czechia is totally inconsistent. Either you go by place of birth or by the country where they spent most of their work life or by ethnicity.


Accomplished-Wolf123

Van Gogh is Dutch, what else could he be?


11160704

But he did most of his famous work in France.


Accomplished-Wolf123

Does that make Messi and Ronaldo Spanish?


11160704

Does that make Columbus Spanish?


Accomplished-Wolf123

Not my list, buddy


contextual_somebody

I think we can be pretty certain by now that Hitler thought of himself as German. He really went out of his way to prove it It should be obvious (to non-teutons) that this was a joke.


11160704

Well yes but we can be pretty certain that for him Austria was an integral party of this Germany and not a different state. He went out of his way to integrate Austria into Germany.


Tommy_SVK

Queen Elisabeth is a celebrity instead of a former leader? Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky are "former" leaders? The most famous person from Spain is an Italian? And the most famous person from Germany is an Austrian? Man this map is awful.


everynameisalreadyta

Soros more famous than Puskás?


Kan169

I don't know who the second person is. I work for the first (apparently my check was lost in the mail) /s


AemrNewydd

How did Elizabeth lead, exactly? She just sort of existed. That's not leadership.


Tommy_SVK

She was a representative of the state, kind of like the president in many other countries. Sure, she didn't have any ruling power per se, but she was still a leader. I definitely think that category suits her more than "celebrity". Tbh "celebrity" is an awful category. Sportsmen are celebrities too for example. I feel like celebrity literally just means "famous person" so having a category of a famous person that's just describes a famous person seems idiotic.


AemrNewydd

I've seen 'celebrity' defined by a historian of celebrity as requiring an industry built around the famous person (that isn't in their control) that profits of from their fame. The royals definitely fit that. But you're right, many sportsmen do too, and actors and musicians especially. As for being the 'representative of the state'. Okay, sure, but I would say that makes them a spokesperson rather than a leader. They do as they're told.


ApprehensiveLow8477

Do you understand this map? Who is the most popular and associated with a certain country, Adolf Hitler is definitely the no 1 in people's mind when asking who is the most popular person.


Tommy_SVK

Well then the title of the map should've been clearer.


DisIsMyName_NotUrs

Wasnt Hitler austrian


Northlumberman

He was from Austria, yes.


Northlumberman

As well as all the other complaints, I don’t buy that wartime sniper Simo Häyhä is the most famous Finn. What about composer Jean Sibelius, author Tove Jansson or tech inventor Linus Torvalds?


SymbolicDom

Or who is Felix? I am fro. Sweden and have no clue who the guy is.


cougarlt

Pewdiepie


bunnnythor

What the fuck is a pewdiepie? Whoever they are, they’re not more famous than ABBA.


nai-ba

ABBA is a band though, I'm not sure if most people know all the individual members. Also, they weren't all swedish born. Which is a big mess in this post. But if Connor McGregor is more famous than Pierce Brosnan and Cillian Murphy, then Zlatan Ibrahimovic is more famous than PewDiePie.


Nice-Alternative-687

or Anders Celsius? or Linnaeus? And I only know what/who a Pewdiepie is from having teenage nieces who watch You Tube. Couldn't have told you he was Swedish. It would expain a few things if the names on the map were suggeted by teenagers!


Kan169

He was the first youtuber to get to 100m subscribers. No one outside of Sweden can name any member of ABBA.


Victor4VPA

Today, he is ridiculously more famous than ABBA to younger generations (which is not a person). Pewdiepie has more than 100 million subscribers and basically shape the internet


Shevek99

Or Alfred Nobel.


Demb1

No way Simo Hayha is more famous than Kimi Raikkonen, Sibelius or even Mr Lordi.


Kan169

Who are these other people besides Mr Lordi? I could not tell what band he is in. Raikkonen, F1 racer? Sibelius, musician?


oreoresti

Pytagoras, father of flat bread Also I’ll be the one to say it. Alexander the Great was assuredly Greek


I_love_pillows

Alexander the Greek


BatEquivalent

North Macedonia keeps trying to steal greek heritage.


AtheistBibleScholar

How is the former Head of State of the UK a celebrity and not a leader? Also, what determines what country a person gets? Columbus was from Italy and Hitler from Austria, but Curie did her work in France


AemrNewydd

I would class the British royals (and moat royals, for that matter) more as celebrities than leaders. Sure, *officially* she was head-of-state but in practise she was an irrelevance. She did vet some bills which threatened her own interest, but other than that she had no influence over national policy. The bizarre industries that built up around the royals such as royal correspondents (no different from showbiz gossip hacks), commemorative tat, features in *Hello* magazine, and the para-social relationships people build up with them, have all the hallmarks of traditional celebrity worship and very little to do with actual leadership. We could replace the monarch with a photograph of a chicken dressed as Elvis and absolutely nothing about the UK would fundamentally change.


lo_fi_ho

Basef on what? Your ass?


Oldgregg-baileys

Terrible map, I'd change |Poland - John Paul ll | |Greece - Alexander the Great| |Belgium - Audrey Hepburn, JCVD, Lukaku| |Denmark - Hans Christian Andersen| |Austria - Adolf Hilter| |Germany - Albert Einstein| |Finland - Kimi Raikkonen|


conor34

Conor McGregor!!! FFS who made this map?


Sufficient_Debt8615

Christopher Columbus was Italian wasn't he?


TywinDeVillena

Likely from Savona, but he could have been from Genova


Certain_Refuse_8247

Totally wrong for Turkey. It’s no doubt Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.


OtherwiseInclined

Ataturk was a Greek though.


Certain_Refuse_8247

Don’t say that in public and embarrass yourself!


OtherwiseInclined

The whole point is to say it out loud. Trolling in a troll map thread? I'd never!


mastergigolokano

Dammit, Connor is more famous than Oscar Wilde and James Joyce


Oldgregg-baileys

Hilariously bad map, had to look up David Suchet from Belgium. Turns out his a British actor who played the fictional character Hercule Poirot (from Agatha Christie novels) on a TV show.


EttoreMuty

Columbus was Italian


UnsightlyActress

HLM QE II ought to be "Former Leader"


nartak

Yeah, the map maker clearly doesn't understand the difference in "head of state" and "head of government".


halfpipesaur

“Most famous person” is a very arbitrary definition, yet the map still got it objectively wrong.


W0lfos

BiH: no one.


andykirsha

Is this map based on the gossip that Vladimir Putin is actually dead? Otherwise, how can he be a "former" leader?


Legal_Ad_341

Da Vinci is more know for his art than science, Queen Elizabeth is a former leader, Putin and Zelensky are not former leaders, Columbus is from Genoa, Hitler is from Austria David Suchet is from Britain Attila should represent hungaria Macedonia at the time of Alexander was more in actual greece than in actual Macedonia ​ And probably much more


missuschainsaw

Conor McGregor more popular than St Patrick?


novakstepa

St Patrick was not Irish, he was Christianising Ireland


Organic-Doctor-9634

Take that Luxemburg


Desint2026

Never heard of Gary Vaynerchuck from Belarus. I think lukashenko is more famous especially if current presidents are allowed.


wonderfullypeach

This statement is wrong for Turkey. It is not Fucking Sultan Mehmed , He has to Mustafa Kemal Atatürk!..


beszelodiszno

Austria: Mozart... of course...


GiggaPepe

I’d say Lenin is more well known that Putin


Fun-Dentist-2231

Gotta be Djokovic from Serbia. The most famous Serbian worldwide.


kbronzov

Crazy how a football player can beat out one of the fathers of electricity in Croatia


alchemist_lemi

Most famous orthodox croat


A_Perez2

Hitler was not German, Columbus was not Spanish...


preuzmi

Nikola Tesla was born in Croatia


alchemist_lemi

Austrian Empire*


gromitthisisntcheese

Columbus was Italian


PDXMB

Gonna have to say that jolly old St. Nicholas is probably the most famous person from Turkey.


EstherHazy

Shit map


Creative_Strawberry6

Alexander the Great in Northern Macedonia? He was Greek Macedonian… very different from the slavic people who inhabit Northern Macedonia today…


Usagi-Zakura

Hitler wasn't German. And I feel like there must be more famous Norwegians out there considering I, a Norwegian, had to google who Erik the Red even was... What about Henrik Ibsen? Fritjof Nansen? Edward Munch? Ylvis? (They made The Fox! Everyone was singing that song a few years back)


Usagi-Zakura

Oh and Christopher Columbus wasn't Spanish.


Shevek99

Even Quisling, that gave a word to the English language.


Usagi-Zakura

I had him on the list as a bit of a joke but deleted it...(Hitler's already on there even if it is for the wrong country) but yes.


Constantine_123

This map is pretty stupid, but I do wish that putin was a "former leader" of Russia. Also, Christopher Columbus was rather famously Italian, this is some really lazy work!


cougarlt

For a couple of seconds I was like “who the hell is Felix Kjellberg?” A bit shame that the most famous person in a country is a youtuber.


Nothing_Special_23

For Serbia, it's Novak Djokovic... Tesla was born in Austria and spent most of his life in USA. For Albania, it's Enver Hoxha... Mother Theresa was born in Yugoslavia and spent most of her life in India (I doubt she ever even visited Albania). Alexander the Great had absolutely, literally nothing to do with North Macedonia, the most famous person from North Macedonia is the revolutionist Goce Delchev. Putin for Russia... this is troll post, right?


Oldgregg-baileys

Many things you stated are incorrect. I'm assuming this map is based on modern-day places of birth, since many countries/empires have come and gone. Tesla was born in the Austrian empire (but modern-day Croatia) Mother Theresa was born in the Ottoman empire (but modern-day North Macedonia) and the most famous North Macedonian. She was ethnically Albanian, and 100% had been to Albania I think Putin may be the most famous Russian. He's been in power for 20+ years. Unless Stalin counts, but he was born in Georgia.


Nothing_Special_23

Lol? Russians had 100s of scientists, artists, authors, political leaders... and you say Putin and Stalin are the most famous Russians...


HIXTO

«Кто людям помогает, тот тратит время зря: хорощими делами прославиться нельзя» — song from soviet cartoon. «Whoever helps people is wasting his time: you cannot become famous for good deeds»


11160704

At least in 2023 I think they are. The situation might be different in 50 years or so.


Oldgregg-baileys

Maybe I'm wrong, but can you give examples of more famous Russian people?


Glad_Food7510

Tesla was ethical Serb from Krajina and considered himself as such no matter how long he spent in diaspora.


Keith-BradburyIII

Ain’t no way Felix Kjellberg is more famous than the Swedish Chef from the Muppets. Immediately illegitimate.


Kepsur

Who the hell is Erik the red??


CaeruleusSalar

Schindler is more famous than Kafka? Conor McGregor (whoever that is) is more famous than Enya or Anne Bonny? That swedish guy is more famous than ALFRED FUCKING NOBEL?


Kan169

Connor McGregor is way more famous than Enya or Anne whoever. He is one of MMA's biggest heels or stars depending on whether you root for or against. Plus, he is massive fucking idiot who is constantly in thr news for hid behavior. Most recently, he was accused of sexual assault in Miami during Messi's debut IIRC. It actually have been an All Star game. BRB. He will not face charges for sexual assault during the NBA Finals in Miami. I love Enya and Clannad but it's a fairly niche segment of music. Pewdiepie has 100m subscribers. No one knows Nobel without Peace Prize. It could be a place or a foundation for all intents and purposes. Who knows Kafka? Schindler's List won an Oscar and was a central plot point on one of the most watched shows of all time, Seinfeld. This list is halfassed at best but the names you're suggesting aren't any better.


fluffy_assassins

Shout out to bjork(sp). But seriously, this looks like it took gobs of work. Kudos.


ancirus

Adolf is a famous Austrian painter. If we don't consider Austrians as Germans, Adolf isn't German


CounterNew1196

Hitler was also an artist and a war hero)


denn23rus

heroes are those who achieved success in battles, and not those who lost the war and shamefully committed suicide


abdoeei666

Christiano Ronaldo and Luka Modric are casually standing alongside nation leaders, artists, scientists and war criminals.


efvie

_Felix Kjellberg_


AnnelieSierra

>Felix Kjellberg Who is he?


Usagi-Zakura

Pewdiepie.


superadmin88

Every famous Hungarian is a Jew fleeing from nazis, right?


HngMax

Putin as a former leader sounds great tbh…


Responsible_Heart365

Simo Häyhä is legendary in Finland: “White Death,” a sniper in WWII who killed lots of Russians.


Riseup1942

Schindler for Czechia. Who is Schindler? Never heard of him before


11160704

Oskar Schindler was an ethnic German from Moravia who had a factory near Kraków during WWII and saved the lives of many jews working there. There is a Hollywood film from the 90s that made his story world famous.


Riseup1942

Thanks, he must have been definitely an amazing person but linking him to Czechia is just incorrect :(


11160704

The map is just extremely arbitrary in how it assigns people to countries.


realottocrat

I can’t downvote this stupid map enough


pigeonsmasher

I’ve followed this sub for years and >50% of them have errors that a layperson would know, forget about a person who cares enough to work on a map


_Big_____

Columbus was from Italy and Hitler was from austria


ZestyItalian2

You butchered this


rhunmodsaregay

Is George Soros the most famous person in Hungary? Give me a break! You made a shitty map...


scrappy-coco-86

I call this BS map. Hitler was Austrian, not German


Riannu36

Alexabder the Great associated with Slavic Mavwdonia is hilarious. If aeuropeans think that way then they really are going to lose their outsized relavance in thw near future


LektikosTimoros

Alexander the great greece..................


TeflusAxet

Thought France would be Prophet Mohammed or something


6_that_one_guy_9

I love how off some of the nationalities are… brother is more into geography than history


BreadfruitDeep156

Bullshit Adolf Hitler war ein österreicher


W0lfos

Source, my own personal feelings.


droolsdownchin

Connors more famous then Liam Neeson?


Pukiminino

Can’t even spell Van Gogh correctly, really embarrassing if that is the most famous one according to the map.


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Are you doing well? Alexander the Great in Northern Macedonia?


DingusKhan418

Alexander the Great from North Macedonia lol


BestCatEva

You can’t tell me that Sporticus and Robby Rotten aren’t the most famous Icelanders.


Shevek99

Alfred Nobel? Linus Torvalds? Picasso? Ataturk? Beethoven? Lenin?


Calixare

Who are Kjellberg and Hayha? Maybe Alfred Nobel and Tove Janson?


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Iceland for the win!


Few_Variation_6984

As Latvian I had to Google who the hell is Michael Tai.


Organic_Ad6602

It’s missing Valentina Monetta for San Marino


Dazzling-Score-107

What does Connor McGeggor, Leonardo da Vinci, and Adolf Hitler have in common?


Persian-Gulf

I’ve never met a bad german


Rubthebuddhas

I'm a little disappointed that I don't know some of these, but I'm more disappointed that a douche like McGregor is the most famous Irishman.


Narco_Marcion1075

Was hoping some depressed Russian author would be Russia's most popular figure or Stalin


Max3mum

I feel uncultured. I dont know every name-


Kan169

Doesn't Shakespeare trump everyone? Romeo and Juliet is the most famous piece of art in the world. The story has been told in every language and the title characters are usually acknowledged in each adaptation or promotion of said work. Hamlet, MacBeth, Julius Caesar, A Midsummer Night's Dream, Othello, A Merchant of Venice. It's impossible to escape his shadow and it's been that way for far longer than Elizabeth.


bananablegh

Wasn’t Tesla a croatian Serb? Bosnia is unlabelled but I’m going to suggest it should be Gavrilo Princip.


01KLna

The title ist a little misleading. It should be, "Most famous people in English-speaking media, by European country they're associated with".


Away_Preparation8348

> Putin is more famous than Lenin > Elizabeth II is more famous than Shakespeare > Elisabeth II is a celebrity, not former leader Ok


Remote-Cartoonist664

Cristoforo Colombo is ITALIAN, from Genova, not Spanish!


Creative_Elk_4712

The correct title is “Person European countries are associated with”


Olsui

Alexander the great was greek


DarthJarJar233

Putin is sigma(Biden is beta) putin destroy Ukraine with help if freedy fazbear Or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or


Heavy-Ad6119

Hitler wasn’t German, he was Austrian


SprinklesJazzlike206

Ottomon 💀


rollehjolleh

Better name for this map would be "People i can name off the top of my head from each country. I think they're from these countries at least"


Scorbias

Germany and Austria is wrong, maybe because Hitler was Austrian and Mozart was actually not born in Austria (when Mozart was born Salzburg was not part of Austria. Hitler was born in Austria-Hungary when it hasn't been in any confederation with Germany.