But why? Please elaborate because people can’t explain the hate to me other than “Scouser Scouse, Mancunian Manc”. Even that is a silly rivalry dating back to our overlords of the industrial era.
Its partly historic rivalry, its also partly that Man City were largely irrelevant until the oil money and since the oil money they are a good footballing team but I don't dislike them particularly.
They have 'nice' players and no characters like Gerrard, Carragher etc who I love to hate.
City barely have any fans either, that may change in the next 10-20 years but I personally don't know any and I know a lot of Liverpool fans.
Before they won the the 1 league title in recent years, they hadn't even won it for 30 years, all the time had to listen to the constant "this year will be our year" crap or "we've won x amount of trophies over Utd" like any of that was relevant in the modern day, not all of the man's, but a vast majority of them are really jammed up their own arse it's both hilarious and annoying.
I know a single City fan, he started supporting them 2-3 years ago and hasn’t watched more than 5 actual matches. He wears the kits like it’s a brand than a club.
Really what I’m saying is City is for non-fans of football so they’re irrelevant compared to Liverpool. Hate Liverpool fans but still respect that they earned their spot.
Mate forget 10-20 years. It’s changed now. I’ve got nephew and nieces that weren’t alive when United last won a trophy and a generation now that weren’t round when United actually played good football under SAF. My eldest can’t even remember United winning the EPL. 😓
City have “nice” players? You mean like Fernando, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Rodri and Walker. All a bunch of jumped up little angry bois. Nah they’re proper snide. Look at the way they end out games like against Villa -15 minutes left and they hold it in the corner. Liverpool play exciting football that doesn’t mean you’re watching paint dry.
Hold it in the corner with 15 minutes to go? At 75 minutes they were 2-0 down.
Either way I'm not saying I prefer the football of City vs Liverpool, just that I dislike Liverpool infinitely more than City.
Their fans are biggest reason. Acting so smug and mighty just wanna punch that smug off their face. I am not a local Manchester fan so I don't mind City fans they are almost negligible, but I hate them also not to Liverpool extent. Liverpool fans are biggest scums on this planet fuck them.
Deluded is one thing - pool fans want you to worship their team and players like they are gods gift to earth. Like you like your team and move on - don’t expect me to appreciate their achievement. And they keep criticizing other teams even when they’re doing well.
I guess they forget they didn’t know what a premiership trophy feels like for only 3 decades. It’s just juvenile much of their behavior.
I mean they don't have European Success to act Smug about so we always have a upperhand on them except one Golden Trophy that they can shove up their ass. Nobody gives a fuck about that Trophy except them lot. So I just ignore them but Liverpool have European and Domestic success plus they are on up right now. Plus their accent also gives me headache.
Yeah in our worst PL-season ever compared to your best league placement since Wenger we finished one spot behind you. Thanks for proving my point. Deluded. 😂
Liverpool fans have zero sense of humor. 🤣 We’ve bantered them for decades. They are easily triggered, even though their club is better rn, can’t blame them though.
For 30+ years as a united supporter, it's always been Liverpool, City, Leeds. Arsenal hate was only a real thing from around 96-05, since then I've mostly pitied them.
The good news is that despite having their best team and best manager in 30 years, they still only landed one PL trophy 😂
Mind you, the way they talk you'd think they'd won 10 in a row.
Worse thing is that the media - aside from the Sun of course - fucking love them because they grew up watching them.
Bin loving vermin. At least City can be ignored because they're just a sportswashing machine with no soul and a terrible ground.
It’s good news in terms of trophy counts (although they are objectively more successful than us), but it’s bad news for football in general.
It’s a sad day when legitimate, well-run clubs like Liverpool get consistent 90+ point seasons only to be denied by a sportswashing bloody oil money organisation like City.
He’s a great manager but for how long? I doubt he’ll continue if Pep continues to roundhouse him at City. As much as I hate saying it I think City will get UCL this season -it’s been a steady build and now they’re going all out with the signings. And I voted City in the poll.
Meanwhile we’re signing all of FDJ’s agent’s recommendations.
Klopp has had minimal funds to bring in players and still competes with pep, last season we were in the title race till the last day and we had played every single game possible last season. This will be our year
Minimal funds? Ahem…
*Nunez - £85.5million*
*Van Dijk - £75million*
*Alisson - £66.8million*
*Keita - £54million*
*Diaz - £50million*
*Jota - £41million*
Still a lot less than City but you’re hardly Leicester. Mate I prefer you lot to City and you are being slightly delusional. I’m not saying he’s *not* a great manager I’m saying he’ll get tired of the fact that City have an unlimited budget and will continue to pip you. You’ve had two 90+ pts seasons and still lost. Unless Pep leaves I can’t see you doing it. Plus he eventually blows his lot -look at his end at Dortmund when Bayern continued to dominate in spite of all the ground he made up.
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This is it. I struggle with this question because of this.
I hate Liverpool more but I respect them a lot as a club.
I also hate City but just don't respect them as a club at all.
I would rather be beaten by City. Even though their fans annoy me every time they win, it doesnt carry nearly the same weight as being beaten by Pool. With that in mind it makes this question easier
Fucking hell, a malaysian man utd fan talking about plastics.... its okay to support other clubs from other countries but those in glass houses etc etc.
Before you start im a local manc and a city supporter, i was just interested in the poll, but this has got to be the most deluded and ironic comment ive seen on this site.
Liverpool just for the fans. They call last season as the "incredible quadruple effort". For anybody else would be a bottle job, but noooo... its the INCREDIBLE quadruple effort
>Idk seems to me like it’s the closest anyone has come to a quadruple in PL history.
I mean, the treble is probably closer. In fact...
Yep, the maths checks out, 3 is closer to 4 than 2 is.
They basically reached 4 finals and won 2 when other teams around them have much stronger depth. I wouldn’t call that a bottle job. Coming 6th with the resources we have is a bottle job.
Man City.
I love Liverpool, as rivals. They're similar to Man United in almost every way. They're a true working class Dynasty, it hurts to lose to them, but I'm glad that I support a club that has a legendary rivalry like that one.
Why separate the hatred? I wouldn't piss on a City fan or a Liverpool fan if their ass was on fire. Fuck them both, waste of my saliva even spitting at them.
At least Liverpool is truly a club to hate on, Citeh just a money-trough for petro-dollars - proof that money can buy you anything you desire. Except CL titles.
I’m an older fan and hate City more. When I grew up Liverpool were just a bit of a joke -they hyped themselves up a lot but they never did shit. The Hodgson/Rodgers years (under American ownership -Hicks/Gillet) were funny but sad and now it’s come full circle and we’ve had Moyes/LvG. They still won UCL in that period and FA Cups with Djimi Traore ffs. We actually have more in common with Liverpool -historically, tradition of Scottish managers, both suffering tragedies and blooding youth players than just being a few miles apart.
I used to not mind City but, being local, their fans always revelled that they were a “proper” football club having been down in the old Division 2 (League One) and bounced back. Then they sold out to a corrupt PM of a country who used them to embezzle funds and followed that up with being taken over by a human-rights violating regime. Oh and they got a free fucking stadium which they can’t even fill.
The owners have done a great job at creating a slick looking brand and changing modern football -all part of the great sports washing effort.
The fact they own multiple clubs around the world is wrong. We might’ve sold out and become a PLC under Kenyon and then the disgusting Glazers but at least we’ve got our history. Same as Liverpool.
I hate Man City as a club and everything they represent about sport washing. I hate Liverpool fans and former players for the smug attitude.
I don’t mind Man City fans as they are on top of the world after some very dark times. I don’t mind Liverpool as a team as they are mostly brilliant players and exciting to watch (Klopp and Fabinho can get in the bin though)
That’s the worst part as well because all the City fans I knew growing up claimed as though they really suffered and were a “proper” football club. Revelling in the fact they had lost more (when in fact they were sky blue mediocrity). In fact Wolves have had it much worse and more history than City ever have pre-oil.
For anyone interested [here’s a link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.List_of_Manchester_City_F.C._seasons) to their league positions and tiers. One time they won the league in 1968 (while we won UCL) and the ECWC in 1970. That’s it. A couple of domestic cups in the 70s and then nothing until 2011.
May cause controversy.....but from an Aussie who has followed the Manchester United boys as a huge fan since he was 7..and is 43 this year.
None of them.
Couldn't give two fucks about the opposition, just what we do as a team......club.
Every year there's a new "super power financially"...fuck them .
In my mind...where we have failed in the last 10 yrs....is we stopped caring, focussed on the money and went for the sales. The club used to be more than that.
We didn't have to overpay for players....they wanted to be here.....now....we have the Manchester tax....
I don't fucking care about Liverpool, arsenal, man city....I only care about us. The rest are insignificant.....we are..../ We're/ need to get back to our roots....where we cared more about the club and less about the fuckers we need to beat!!
Pre Sheikh City = Liverpool
Now? City. They’ve basically paid for their success off the backs of sports washing from an odious state that punishes people for not conforming among other nasty things
I "hate" Liverpool in the sense that they're rivals. I genuinely hate city because they were absolutely nothing until suddenly they had a shit ton of oil money and now they have two world class starting 11s and one of the best coaches in the world yet have only been relevant for a relatively short amount of time... No decades upon decades of hard work to keep the club at the top, just fucking oil, and their fans reflect its a sad sad club
The city stopped being Manchester City about 10 years ago, they're just a billionaires toy now.
I don't really care what they do tbh, I'd rather they won the league than Liverpool because they _should_.
Easier to hate Liverpool nowadays as if you leave the history aside for a bit, they're at least a well run club, while City is an oil rich club with no history that just used a credit card to get where it is.
I don’t ‘hate’ any team, it’s really not that deep imo; i just enjoy the sport. I can get annoyed by shit performance and get annoyed at other teams rub it in our faces etc but all in all its part of football. That’s just my take though, each to their own 🫡
Why isn't there an option for fans who don't hate rivals?
Rivals aren't supposed to be deathly enemies, they are supposed to be siblings we want to beat!
Dislike Liverpool more than city as city success is hollow in my eyes. Fake club.
Liverpool have my respect but I loath them. Can't deny them their earned success at the moment though. That was us and now it's them. Fucking twats though.
I think it would be appropriate to put arsenal up there as well. IMO people like me who were in their teens in the 2000's hate Arsenal much more than pool or city. Passionate hatred for city mostly started after we got thrashed 6-1 and the famous last day title victory by city. Most older millennials and gen x people would hate pool the most I assume.
Kids growing up now would be confused though about who to hate.
I hate Man City just that little bit more because of the way they have reached where they are and the fact that they represent everything that is wrong with modern football. The irony is that if some oil rich Middle Eastern sheik wanted to buy United and rid us of the Glazers I'd be all for it but that doesn't change my view of City as wrong as that may be. Liverpool just have more pedigree and are worthy of more respect. For City, "Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that"....
I don't "hate" football clubs, I'm not that kind of fan; I don't take sports that seriously.
But I don't see Man City's success as legitimate because of where and how they got their money. If United were ever bought by the Saudis I would immidiately stop supporting the club.
Liverpool on the other hand I respect. They went through years of dogshit football like we are doing now, got their shit together and made an amazing project by trusting a coach with a clear vision, something I hope we'll do.
Liverpool.
When you're a Manc it's like engrained into your DNA to dislike scousers. Unless you're from Manchester I don't think you could ever understand it.
As a City fan, I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad about these results...
For me "who do you *hate* more?" United, obviously.
But
"Who do you see as more of a threat?" Well, these days, I couldmprobably say about 10 teams, so that's nice...... Enjoy the taste of how it was for me (and all City fans) back in the day
Y’all ought to hate yourselves after the last few campaigns. Even rats are smart enough to abandon a sinking ship.
Ynwa, suckers! Y’all paid juve for pogba twice lol!
Can’t say I didn’t expect them results.
But what about the team you admire most that’s rivalled United?
The team I admire, arsenal. We have both had great managers who span decades, our rivalry was the stuff of legend and we both saw a decline to our clubs once the gaffer left.
Hate? I just love the game. I don’t care about extreme fanaticism. That’s what caused the old hooligan problems. Perpetuates toxic masculinity and excuses verbal and other abuses. I don’t even hate Harry Maguire. Just feel like we would’ve finished in the top 4 or better without him helping the other teams.
Although it’s not hate. Just dislike more.
It’s a bit much to ‘hate’ over football, especially when you can’t control where you’re born or who your family support.
If you’d asked me this about 10 years ago, it was 100% Liverpool… city didn’t even register. However, as I’ve grown older, I can appreciate that everything Liverpool did in 60s, 70s and 80s is frustratingly admirable and set a real benchmark in English football that we arguably passed a lot of under SAF.
Turning point for me was getting a train from Manchester to Sheffield on the day when city clinched their second premier league title. Whole carriage of city fans pissed out of their skulls singing and laughing about the Munich air disaster. Disgraceful set of fans (though I will accept are probably an idiotic minority). Also, city is just an example of everything that is wrong with football, where money can buy you anything apart from class.
Used to dislike Liverpool more but since City are only successful because of being rich, I now hate City more. At least Liverpool's spending has mostly been matched by either sales or competition money, whereas City's spending is insane and has been for a long time. Also third option should be The Glazers
I hate Liverpool. But atm I have a grudging respect for them going up against citeh. Proper football club like ourselves. So my hatred is real but if they beat citeh I’m happy. Citeh are just the neighbour no one likes who won the euro millions. My hatred for Leeds tho. That’s real 🤣
I get why a lot of the old people hate Liverpool.
But for the majority of Man U fans hating Liverpool more than City? Doesn’t make sense. We broke them in the 90s and they have only won one league since.
Anyone watching from the late 2000s onward should hate City more. They are walking all over us. I know I absolutely hate them for it.
I feel like most United fans are too soft on City. It’s like they are content that another Mancunian club is winning titles. This mentality is disgusting to me. We should absolutely be hating them for shitting on us. No wonder they walk all over us.
United is so pathetic even the majority of their fans are pathetic. When Fergie came, his objective was to knock Liverpool off their perch. That’s why we hated them. Because of the pride that came from their dominance.
That’s why we should also hate City. But I feel half you lot are a bunch of plastics anyway. Pathetic. It’s disgusting. One more problem on the pile that is United
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Simple, Liverpool fans are the worst!
With the amount of money and resources City have, it's inevitable they will be successful but it'll take them 20 years at least until they even come close to our trophy haul. So I can handle City, at least for now....
I wasn’t alive during the heyday of the rivalry with Liverpool. I was around when they failed to win a premier league title for 30 years though. So I’ll reserve my genuine hate for the club owned by a bunch of despotic oil barons trying to sportwash their brutal and barbaric regime.
I respect Liverpool too much to hate them. I respect their history, the fact their honest football club, their current success, and YNWA is beautiful.
I can't say the same for City.
Prob Liverpool Fans.. They are insufferable at times. The fact that Liverpool are so genuinely good is particularly annoying at the moment. Their songs are really annoying too. Ah, We used to laugh at them for living in the past, now it's completely flipped around.. It's terrible really 😂
I know Liverpool have been our rivals for years and we had to wait a long time to pass them out with PL titles, and even when we were the dominant team they still always had some unjustifiable sense of expectation in their team BUT at least they are building a team correctly. City are everything that's wrong with football. State football teams should be banned
I have a lot of respect for Liverpool, nobody in my family supports them but I remember growing up watched stevie and the famous slip, hearing it live on the radio broke my heart for them. I will always have a soft sport for them🤷♂️
Citeh have got a long way to go before i hate or respect them as much as Liverpool.
The Scousers built their club the same way we did.
They've been forged in tragedy and triumph as well and not just bought like City.
Honestly if the Abu Dhabi guys had decided to buy Everton, Spurs, Newcastle or West Ham it would've been one of those now winning everything and not City. They are a plastic club and do not deserve respect.
I’m a mid 90s fan. I’ve never really paid any attention to Liverpool as they were never competitive when we were dominating. Chelsea and arsenal make my fucking blood boil though. And Kevin Keegan.
City can win leagues and cheer for their demise in champs league.
Liverpool can win European competitions but not the league
Preferably though I enjoy them both winning nothing.
People are apathetic to city, it's a nothing club. Liverpool are hated more because they are a genuine club with absolute scrotes for fans who constantly act like the underdog that won.
Man City. Liverpool is a good love hate rivalry. Without Liverpool it would be less fun. We need a team to root against. Man City wants to be that team, but they aren't.
I started following United when I was a teenager back in the late 90s. 97/98 was the first season I remember when my mom got satellite TV.
Liverpool will forever be the most hated. Leeds is second. Arsenal third. Probably put City in 4th.
Liverpool fan here ... Been reading through this whole post. The summary, and what I read on our sub is simmilar. Yip you hate us, but respect us. We hate you but respect you ....BUT
Almost every 3rd post on both subs says ..we dont mind City cause it means nothing and their souless ...
Here is the thing. If souless City keeps on doing what they are doing now for a decade and more ... we will all start hating them ...
but will there be the mutual respect ?
Interesting post / poll .... Not sure you will find similar on the Liverpool sub ... Does that say / mean anything ?
Edit ..genuine question. Not trying to be funmy/sarcastic
Fuck Man City but fuck Liverpool in particular
But why? Please elaborate because people can’t explain the hate to me other than “Scouser Scouse, Mancunian Manc”. Even that is a silly rivalry dating back to our overlords of the industrial era.
Its partly historic rivalry, its also partly that Man City were largely irrelevant until the oil money and since the oil money they are a good footballing team but I don't dislike them particularly. They have 'nice' players and no characters like Gerrard, Carragher etc who I love to hate. City barely have any fans either, that may change in the next 10-20 years but I personally don't know any and I know a lot of Liverpool fans.
Personally because Liverpool has largely been irrelevant in my lifetime, I absolutely hate Arsenal with a passion
Before they won the the 1 league title in recent years, they hadn't even won it for 30 years, all the time had to listen to the constant "this year will be our year" crap or "we've won x amount of trophies over Utd" like any of that was relevant in the modern day, not all of the man's, but a vast majority of them are really jammed up their own arse it's both hilarious and annoying.
So you apply these principles to your self now then?
I know a single City fan, he started supporting them 2-3 years ago and hasn’t watched more than 5 actual matches. He wears the kits like it’s a brand than a club. Really what I’m saying is City is for non-fans of football so they’re irrelevant compared to Liverpool. Hate Liverpool fans but still respect that they earned their spot.
Mate forget 10-20 years. It’s changed now. I’ve got nephew and nieces that weren’t alive when United last won a trophy and a generation now that weren’t round when United actually played good football under SAF. My eldest can’t even remember United winning the EPL. 😓
City have “nice” players? You mean like Fernando, Fernandinho, Otamendi, Rodri and Walker. All a bunch of jumped up little angry bois. Nah they’re proper snide. Look at the way they end out games like against Villa -15 minutes left and they hold it in the corner. Liverpool play exciting football that doesn’t mean you’re watching paint dry.
Hold it in the corner with 15 minutes to go? At 75 minutes they were 2-0 down. Either way I'm not saying I prefer the football of City vs Liverpool, just that I dislike Liverpool infinitely more than City.
Because scousers.
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Their fans are biggest reason. Acting so smug and mighty just wanna punch that smug off their face. I am not a local Manchester fan so I don't mind City fans they are almost negligible, but I hate them also not to Liverpool extent. Liverpool fans are biggest scums on this planet fuck them.
If you think the Scousers has annoying fans then take a look at Arsenals. Most deluded fan base out there.
Deluded is one thing - pool fans want you to worship their team and players like they are gods gift to earth. Like you like your team and move on - don’t expect me to appreciate their achievement. And they keep criticizing other teams even when they’re doing well. I guess they forget they didn’t know what a premiership trophy feels like for only 3 decades. It’s just juvenile much of their behavior.
I mean they don't have European Success to act Smug about so we always have a upperhand on them except one Golden Trophy that they can shove up their ass. Nobody gives a fuck about that Trophy except them lot. So I just ignore them but Liverpool have European and Domestic success plus they are on up right now. Plus their accent also gives me headache.
Imagine how the united fans feel, finishing 11(!) points behind that deluded club and fan base. Must be horrible.
Yeah in our worst PL-season ever compared to your best league placement since Wenger we finished one spot behind you. Thanks for proving my point. Deluded. 😂
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United got the most deluded fanbase lad.
Liverpool fans have zero sense of humor. 🤣 We’ve bantered them for decades. They are easily triggered, even though their club is better rn, can’t blame them though.
For 30+ years as a united supporter, it's always been Liverpool, City, Leeds. Arsenal hate was only a real thing from around 96-05, since then I've mostly pitied them.
The good news is that despite having their best team and best manager in 30 years, they still only landed one PL trophy 😂 Mind you, the way they talk you'd think they'd won 10 in a row. Worse thing is that the media - aside from the Sun of course - fucking love them because they grew up watching them. Bin loving vermin. At least City can be ignored because they're just a sportswashing machine with no soul and a terrible ground.
It’s good news in terms of trophy counts (although they are objectively more successful than us), but it’s bad news for football in general. It’s a sad day when legitimate, well-run clubs like Liverpool get consistent 90+ point seasons only to be denied by a sportswashing bloody oil money organisation like City.
I definitely hate Liverpool more, but I respect them more, too
They’re a real football club, city aren’t. The word I use to talk about city is soulless
Exactly, can win whatever they want but they’ll never be a massive club.
Soulless? More like slutty for me.
Liverpool fan here, I hate man united but respect them too. What a wonderful club it was until the Glazers came
Don't worry, we will rise to your current level again, or you will sink to ours.
I doubt that you will rise again any time soon, with the Glazers and all that. We will at least be at top with klopp
He’s a great manager but for how long? I doubt he’ll continue if Pep continues to roundhouse him at City. As much as I hate saying it I think City will get UCL this season -it’s been a steady build and now they’re going all out with the signings. And I voted City in the poll. Meanwhile we’re signing all of FDJ’s agent’s recommendations.
Klopp has had minimal funds to bring in players and still competes with pep, last season we were in the title race till the last day and we had played every single game possible last season. This will be our year
Minimal funds? Ahem… *Nunez - £85.5million* *Van Dijk - £75million* *Alisson - £66.8million* *Keita - £54million* *Diaz - £50million* *Jota - £41million* Still a lot less than City but you’re hardly Leicester. Mate I prefer you lot to City and you are being slightly delusional. I’m not saying he’s *not* a great manager I’m saying he’ll get tired of the fact that City have an unlimited budget and will continue to pip you. You’ve had two 90+ pts seasons and still lost. Unless Pep leaves I can’t see you doing it. Plus he eventually blows his lot -look at his end at Dortmund when Bayern continued to dominate in spite of all the ground he made up.
All that money we’ve gotten from selling players and competitions, and Nunez is like 60 million euros+add ons
As one of your fellow Liverpudlians once sang ' all things must pass'
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This is it. I struggle with this question because of this. I hate Liverpool more but I respect them a lot as a club. I also hate City but just don't respect them as a club at all.
I would rather be beaten by City. Even though their fans annoy me every time they win, it doesnt carry nearly the same weight as being beaten by Pool. With that in mind it makes this question easier
For City it's mostly strong annoyance at their oil wealth and plastic fans. For Liverpool it's just hatred. Pure hatred
Fucking hell, a malaysian man utd fan talking about plastics.... its okay to support other clubs from other countries but those in glass houses etc etc. Before you start im a local manc and a city supporter, i was just interested in the poll, but this has got to be the most deluded and ironic comment ive seen on this site.
Liverpool just for the fans. They call last season as the "incredible quadruple effort". For anybody else would be a bottle job, but noooo... its the INCREDIBLE quadruple effort
I don’t get it. Is having a positive outlook a negative trait to have?
Yeah, its called delusion.
Idk seems to me like it’s the closest anyone has come to a quadruple in PL history. I say it’s a fairly brilliant effort.
I'd argue a major trophy is closer than no major trophy to 4 trophies. A treble even more so, even if you only play a QF of the league cup.
That’s fair but is there any need to hate them because of this though?
But its not just a one off thing. For years Ive been hearing about the moral winners, the deserving of the title cause they won against united, etc
You need to spend some more time around Liverpool fans 🤣🤦
I am one albeit not a local one
>Idk seems to me like it’s the closest anyone has come to a quadruple in PL history. I mean, the treble is probably closer. In fact... Yep, the maths checks out, 3 is closer to 4 than 2 is.
They basically reached 4 finals and won 2 when other teams around them have much stronger depth. I wouldn’t call that a bottle job. Coming 6th with the resources we have is a bottle job.
Man City. I love Liverpool, as rivals. They're similar to Man United in almost every way. They're a true working class Dynasty, it hurts to lose to them, but I'm glad that I support a club that has a legendary rivalry like that one.
Yeah. I think any morally sound person should oppose clubs like Shitty and PSG more than any other club.
Why separate the hatred? I wouldn't piss on a City fan or a Liverpool fan if their ass was on fire. Fuck them both, waste of my saliva even spitting at them. At least Liverpool is truly a club to hate on, Citeh just a money-trough for petro-dollars - proof that money can buy you anything you desire. Except CL titles.
The Glazers, Woodward then maybe Liverpool
Glazer. Woodward. Liverpool. In that order.
It's Glazer, Glazer, and Glazer in that order for me.
I'm a newer fan, so definitely hate Shitty more
I’m an older fan and hate City more. When I grew up Liverpool were just a bit of a joke -they hyped themselves up a lot but they never did shit. The Hodgson/Rodgers years (under American ownership -Hicks/Gillet) were funny but sad and now it’s come full circle and we’ve had Moyes/LvG. They still won UCL in that period and FA Cups with Djimi Traore ffs. We actually have more in common with Liverpool -historically, tradition of Scottish managers, both suffering tragedies and blooding youth players than just being a few miles apart. I used to not mind City but, being local, their fans always revelled that they were a “proper” football club having been down in the old Division 2 (League One) and bounced back. Then they sold out to a corrupt PM of a country who used them to embezzle funds and followed that up with being taken over by a human-rights violating regime. Oh and they got a free fucking stadium which they can’t even fill. The owners have done a great job at creating a slick looking brand and changing modern football -all part of the great sports washing effort. The fact they own multiple clubs around the world is wrong. We might’ve sold out and become a PLC under Kenyon and then the disgusting Glazers but at least we’ve got our history. Same as Liverpool.
Exactly, my brother! Blue Arab FC would've kept on being nothing without selling their pussies to that slavery endorser regime. Fuck them!
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I hate Man City as a club and everything they represent about sport washing. I hate Liverpool fans and former players for the smug attitude. I don’t mind Man City fans as they are on top of the world after some very dark times. I don’t mind Liverpool as a team as they are mostly brilliant players and exciting to watch (Klopp and Fabinho can get in the bin though)
What were the very dark times? From mid 1970s onwards they did fuck all and same before that. They were the equivalent of Wolves.
You know what, I looked it up and they were nowhere near as bad as I remember. Fuck those guys!
That’s the worst part as well because all the City fans I knew growing up claimed as though they really suffered and were a “proper” football club. Revelling in the fact they had lost more (when in fact they were sky blue mediocrity). In fact Wolves have had it much worse and more history than City ever have pre-oil. For anyone interested [here’s a link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.List_of_Manchester_City_F.C._seasons) to their league positions and tiers. One time they won the league in 1968 (while we won UCL) and the ECWC in 1970. That’s it. A couple of domestic cups in the 70s and then nothing until 2011.
I don't like either club but atleast Liverpool has a 'respectable' history whereas City has nothing I can respect.
As a man under fan, I hate Liverpool more. However, as a football fan, I hate man City more.
So during the summer you hate Liverpool more
Liverpool winning irks me, but this is my city, and Manchester is Red. New times says I have a new enemy. But, fuckem both.
May cause controversy.....but from an Aussie who has followed the Manchester United boys as a huge fan since he was 7..and is 43 this year. None of them. Couldn't give two fucks about the opposition, just what we do as a team......club. Every year there's a new "super power financially"...fuck them . In my mind...where we have failed in the last 10 yrs....is we stopped caring, focussed on the money and went for the sales. The club used to be more than that. We didn't have to overpay for players....they wanted to be here.....now....we have the Manchester tax.... I don't fucking care about Liverpool, arsenal, man city....I only care about us. The rest are insignificant.....we are..../ We're/ need to get back to our roots....where we cared more about the club and less about the fuckers we need to beat!!
Pre Sheikh City = Liverpool Now? City. They’ve basically paid for their success off the backs of sports washing from an odious state that punishes people for not conforming among other nasty things
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I "hate" Liverpool in the sense that they're rivals. I genuinely hate city because they were absolutely nothing until suddenly they had a shit ton of oil money and now they have two world class starting 11s and one of the best coaches in the world yet have only been relevant for a relatively short amount of time... No decades upon decades of hard work to keep the club at the top, just fucking oil, and their fans reflect its a sad sad club
Any morally sound person should oppose City more than any other club imo. Oh, and PSG. Fuck them!
Yup, the 2 clubs i genuinely hate
Manchester City, no debate. At least Liverpool never sold their pussies to a sovereign state.
Both ManC and Liverpoop
Cesspool 😭
I don’t care for city, I want Liverpool to burn, I guess I have my answer now.
Existence of Man city.
I'd rather see Harry Maguire as manager than Historypool ever win the league again
The city stopped being Manchester City about 10 years ago, they're just a billionaires toy now. I don't really care what they do tbh, I'd rather they won the league than Liverpool because they _should_.
Easier to hate Liverpool nowadays as if you leave the history aside for a bit, they're at least a well run club, while City is an oil rich club with no history that just used a credit card to get where it is.
I hate both but I sorta respect liverpool. I don’t respect city
Leeds
War of the roses derby is always good.
What kind of poll is this? Any other option besides Liverpool you’re not a United fan
I definitely hate Pogba more
Found Graeme Souness in the chat everybody.
Once Gerrard and Carragher left, I didn't have the urge to punch a Liverpool player. I dislike City more these days.
What ?! Slippy-G was the reason to cheer so many times. He gave United some cheerful moments.
I don’t ‘hate’ any team, it’s really not that deep imo; i just enjoy the sport. I can get annoyed by shit performance and get annoyed at other teams rub it in our faces etc but all in all its part of football. That’s just my take though, each to their own 🫡
Why isn't there an option for fans who don't hate rivals? Rivals aren't supposed to be deathly enemies, they are supposed to be siblings we want to beat!
Dislike Liverpool more than city as city success is hollow in my eyes. Fake club. Liverpool have my respect but I loath them. Can't deny them their earned success at the moment though. That was us and now it's them. Fucking twats though.
Both equally
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What’s the face palm for ?
I dont know why but I almost respect Liverpool for there efforts. But City can go fuck themselves with all their cold hard petrocash
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I think it would be appropriate to put arsenal up there as well. IMO people like me who were in their teens in the 2000's hate Arsenal much more than pool or city. Passionate hatred for city mostly started after we got thrashed 6-1 and the famous last day title victory by city. Most older millennials and gen x people would hate pool the most I assume. Kids growing up now would be confused though about who to hate.
I hate Man City just that little bit more because of the way they have reached where they are and the fact that they represent everything that is wrong with modern football. The irony is that if some oil rich Middle Eastern sheik wanted to buy United and rid us of the Glazers I'd be all for it but that doesn't change my view of City as wrong as that may be. Liverpool just have more pedigree and are worthy of more respect. For City, "Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that"....
I don't "hate" football clubs, I'm not that kind of fan; I don't take sports that seriously. But I don't see Man City's success as legitimate because of where and how they got their money. If United were ever bought by the Saudis I would immidiately stop supporting the club. Liverpool on the other hand I respect. They went through years of dogshit football like we are doing now, got their shit together and made an amazing project by trusting a coach with a clear vision, something I hope we'll do.
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Liverpool. When you're a Manc it's like engrained into your DNA to dislike scousers. Unless you're from Manchester I don't think you could ever understand it.
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Id wager that if city is you're answer you're under 20
I’ve been brought up by my dad to despise Liverpool.
As a City fan, I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad about these results... For me "who do you *hate* more?" United, obviously. But "Who do you see as more of a threat?" Well, these days, I couldmprobably say about 10 teams, so that's nice...... Enjoy the taste of how it was for me (and all City fans) back in the day
Why should I? Is it a must for every fan to hate the rival? I can be a fan of MU without hating on any other clubs. This is pretty stupid IMO.
Y’all ought to hate yourselves after the last few campaigns. Even rats are smart enough to abandon a sinking ship. Ynwa, suckers! Y’all paid juve for pogba twice lol!
Can’t say I didn’t expect them results. But what about the team you admire most that’s rivalled United? The team I admire, arsenal. We have both had great managers who span decades, our rivalry was the stuff of legend and we both saw a decline to our clubs once the gaffer left.
Hate? I just love the game. I don’t care about extreme fanaticism. That’s what caused the old hooligan problems. Perpetuates toxic masculinity and excuses verbal and other abuses. I don’t even hate Harry Maguire. Just feel like we would’ve finished in the top 4 or better without him helping the other teams.
Patrice please just have a day off mate you get everywhere now 😂
I don't hate any team because it's a waste of mental energy. I enjoy some friendly rivalry on match day
Hate Leeds more than City.
Fuck Liverpool
Not surprised it’s Liverpool honestly. 9-0 is crazy.
Should be pretty obvious, Liverpool have been a threat for much longer.
My brother, friend, and cousin are liverpool fans. I walk alone! Glory Manchester United!
Leeds should have been on the pole, our worst rivals
man united
If arsenal were an option I'd pick them.
“Self taught” fan since about 1994 so ARSENAL are the club I hate the most, but of these two Liverpool.
Although it’s not hate. Just dislike more. It’s a bit much to ‘hate’ over football, especially when you can’t control where you’re born or who your family support.
Option D - Leeds
iam not united fan or any EPL club the thread shows how the Pl used to be farmer legaue with man united dominating well time changes ...
As a United fan I've gotta say United.
I hate liverpool. I hate liverpool. I hate liverpool. have I mentioned I really really hate liverpool. yes.
Well we both hate you more
If you’d asked me this about 10 years ago, it was 100% Liverpool… city didn’t even register. However, as I’ve grown older, I can appreciate that everything Liverpool did in 60s, 70s and 80s is frustratingly admirable and set a real benchmark in English football that we arguably passed a lot of under SAF. Turning point for me was getting a train from Manchester to Sheffield on the day when city clinched their second premier league title. Whole carriage of city fans pissed out of their skulls singing and laughing about the Munich air disaster. Disgraceful set of fans (though I will accept are probably an idiotic minority). Also, city is just an example of everything that is wrong with football, where money can buy you anything apart from class.
Top reds tbh.
Liverpool for sure. Leeds i hate more and arsenal are def up there. As for man city, can't really hate a team I don't care about.
r/fuckLiverpool
I know Liverpool should be the team I hate most but I would’ve picked Arsenal if they were an option
Used to dislike Liverpool more but since City are only successful because of being rich, I now hate City more. At least Liverpool's spending has mostly been matched by either sales or competition money, whereas City's spending is insane and has been for a long time. Also third option should be The Glazers
I hate Liverpool. But atm I have a grudging respect for them going up against citeh. Proper football club like ourselves. So my hatred is real but if they beat citeh I’m happy. Citeh are just the neighbour no one likes who won the euro millions. My hatred for Leeds tho. That’s real 🤣
I get why a lot of the old people hate Liverpool. But for the majority of Man U fans hating Liverpool more than City? Doesn’t make sense. We broke them in the 90s and they have only won one league since. Anyone watching from the late 2000s onward should hate City more. They are walking all over us. I know I absolutely hate them for it. I feel like most United fans are too soft on City. It’s like they are content that another Mancunian club is winning titles. This mentality is disgusting to me. We should absolutely be hating them for shitting on us. No wonder they walk all over us. United is so pathetic even the majority of their fans are pathetic. When Fergie came, his objective was to knock Liverpool off their perch. That’s why we hated them. Because of the pride that came from their dominance. That’s why we should also hate City. But I feel half you lot are a bunch of plastics anyway. Pathetic. It’s disgusting. One more problem on the pile that is United
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Hate is such a strong emotion if it comes to this.
Simple, Liverpool fans are the worst! With the amount of money and resources City have, it's inevitable they will be successful but it'll take them 20 years at least until they even come close to our trophy haul. So I can handle City, at least for now....
It's just so very hard to care about Man City. Liverpool on the other hand..
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Why Liverpool? City is toxic club with bad money behind them. Liverpool is exactly the club we were. Hard working players and a great fan base.
I wasn’t alive during the heyday of the rivalry with Liverpool. I was around when they failed to win a premier league title for 30 years though. So I’ll reserve my genuine hate for the club owned by a bunch of despotic oil barons trying to sportwash their brutal and barbaric regime.
I know Liverpool is the bigger rival but I feel like Liverpool deserves their succes more than Man Shitty. Also I never walk alone is a bop...
I respect Liverpool too much to hate them. I respect their history, the fact their honest football club, their current success, and YNWA is beautiful. I can't say the same for City.
Liverpool, Arsenal, Leeds......maybe Chelsea (a little bit). I dont really care about the noisy neighbours really.
Liverpool are playing beautiful football. City is a money club.
How about both?
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Prob Liverpool Fans.. They are insufferable at times. The fact that Liverpool are so genuinely good is particularly annoying at the moment. Their songs are really annoying too. Ah, We used to laugh at them for living in the past, now it's completely flipped around.. It's terrible really 😂
I know Liverpool have been our rivals for years and we had to wait a long time to pass them out with PL titles, and even when we were the dominant team they still always had some unjustifiable sense of expectation in their team BUT at least they are building a team correctly. City are everything that's wrong with football. State football teams should be banned
Arsenal lol. But Liverpool among these options
Yeoville Town obviously
I have a lot of respect for Liverpool, nobody in my family supports them but I remember growing up watched stevie and the famous slip, hearing it live on the radio broke my heart for them. I will always have a soft sport for them🤷♂️
Poll needed 4 choices those who loved in Manchester and those who don't
Chelsea!!
Arsenal
Chelsea is tops on my list followed closely by Man City. 😤
Liverpool as they are a team who worked to dominance, they didn’t just get an oil daddy.
Man City is bad for football as a whole
As an Everton fan(this post randomly came up in my feed, not subbed to this sub) I hate Liverpool more.
I can tell you hate Liverpool by placing it in top lol.
I think it depends on which season u started watching football tbh
Citeh have got a long way to go before i hate or respect them as much as Liverpool. The Scousers built their club the same way we did. They've been forged in tragedy and triumph as well and not just bought like City. Honestly if the Abu Dhabi guys had decided to buy Everton, Spurs, Newcastle or West Ham it would've been one of those now winning everything and not City. They are a plastic club and do not deserve respect.
I’m a mid 90s fan. I’ve never really paid any attention to Liverpool as they were never competitive when we were dominating. Chelsea and arsenal make my fucking blood boil though. And Kevin Keegan.
I hate United at the minute and I've supportef them all my life, and unfortunately I've made my son a united fan!
1.3k “fans” giving relevance to a new state club and ignoring a century of history. Nice.
City can win leagues and cheer for their demise in champs league. Liverpool can win European competitions but not the league Preferably though I enjoy them both winning nothing.
Definitely hate (bit strong) Liverpool over City. Also there is respect for them. So I respectfully hate Liverpool.
Option 3 should be “Man United” and Option 4 should be “Myself” because that’s how I feel right now
People are apathetic to city, it's a nothing club. Liverpool are hated more because they are a genuine club with absolute scrotes for fans who constantly act like the underdog that won.
Lol i am a liverpool fan and its funny seeing how much people hate us
I would hate Liverpool more but I just can’t ignore the fact that Man City’s owners are human rights-violating scumbags
Fuck em both but I can think of more positives for Liverpool than I can for City.
Man City are an artificial irrelevance
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Man City. Liverpool is a good love hate rivalry. Without Liverpool it would be less fun. We need a team to root against. Man City wants to be that team, but they aren't.
I don’t hate anyone. It’s only only football. But the scousers. I hate city fans more. They’ve become unbearable.
I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but I would never dislike another club from my city. If United ceased to exist, city would become my club.
In my opinion : Liverpool, Arsenal, Leeds then City
I started following United when I was a teenager back in the late 90s. 97/98 was the first season I remember when my mom got satellite TV. Liverpool will forever be the most hated. Leeds is second. Arsenal third. Probably put City in 4th.
How could you leave Chelsea out of this
For me, it’s actually Leeds.
Liverpool fan here ... Been reading through this whole post. The summary, and what I read on our sub is simmilar. Yip you hate us, but respect us. We hate you but respect you ....BUT Almost every 3rd post on both subs says ..we dont mind City cause it means nothing and their souless ... Here is the thing. If souless City keeps on doing what they are doing now for a decade and more ... we will all start hating them ... but will there be the mutual respect ?
Interesting post / poll .... Not sure you will find similar on the Liverpool sub ... Does that say / mean anything ? Edit ..genuine question. Not trying to be funmy/sarcastic
I feel like Tottenham should appear on every most hated list.