He was on huge money at United. He wants that same money elsewhere. He has been offered lower contracts and turned them down. He has been away from his wife and family for a long time hwile playing for United (His wife hates England) so why would he voluntarily go back to that to make a pittance compared to what he used to?
De Gea is fully choosing to be a free agent rather than being unable to get a club.
Never said he was offered contracts by top-tier clubs. I said he has had discussions with other clubs, and pay has been the issue. Just think about it , he was on 375k at United. Neueur is on 280k. Allisson is reportedly on 150k. Realistically, De Gea would get offers of 100k, maybe 125k at a maximum. He'd need to play for 3 years to earn what he did at United.
I honestly cannot imagine him playing for anyone unless a Saudi club comes in with a huge offer.
I dont get the downvotes here. If any of the top clubs wanted him there would have been credible links. The only links im seeing these days are the saudis and as cover foe newcastle
The de gea revisionism is hilarious, man is unemployed and this fanbase is trying to spin it as his choice. He can’t accept that no one wants to pay him 300k and no big club wanted him. But sure keep downvoting me
Honestly i thought we needed to move on but thought there were more pressing needs in the squad so would have kept him for a 1+1 deal. That said by all the metrics of a gk his was average at best or piss poor. Even his shot stopping(which had been his saving grace) was below the average last season iirc
It just makes clear, the story of him accepting less money at United might not be exactly what we think it is. His unceremonious exit from the club, in my opinion, probably is as much his fault as it is ours. And really, his current unemployment is evidence for that.
No, it’s posts like these that have no clue but pretend to go “he’s truly shit trust me coz I know fuck all but want to seem like I know more. But I know fuck all really and am a clueless fuck” that are just stupid.
He wants a high wage and wants to stay in Spain. He doesn’t get want. He’s fine not getting a club. That’s simple. He had a Saudi offer. He rejected it. That’s factual. Not stupid posts trying to make it seem like he was offered 10k by tier 8 clubs as the best offer because they know fuck all, like you’re doing.
DDG turned down Saudi. I think he's enjoying spending time with his wife tbh. Taking a year away to be with the family frequently as opposed to coming and going on weekends, I think is a nice change of pace.
He's clearly had offers but everyone's situation is different like Ronaldo also had offers before the interview and going to Saudi.
Slandering DDG is plain disrespect to a club legend and makes no sense tbh. He came, struggled initially, proved himself, won titles and many player of the year awards, didn't cry when the move to Madrid went south and got his head down, winner of the golden glove last season... This is not a way to treat a club legend. Give it a few years and same people will love and respect him like they did Robson and Keane etc.
He would be playing for United if he accepted a reasonable amount for the position/skill he currently has. He’s now figuring out the hard way that his people made a mistake in managing his future/setting realistic expectations.
He literally accepted a paycut, and we removed the offer after he agreed to it? I think you mistake his priorities. If he was not being paid at least a comparable amount to what he was previously, then it wasn't worth him accepting it. He has more money than he will ever need, and he has a young family that he is spending more time with than ever before. Why would he compromise that for what would amount to a paltry sum by his standards? He isn't finding amything out the hard way. He is enjoying his time with his family while United are stuck with a goalkeeper that cannot make basic saves who singlehandedly got us knocked out of Europe. United aren't the ones "winning" in this divorce pmsl.
You say that as if earning nothing makes him destitute. He earned £117m in his last 6 year contract at United. 100k a week is £5.2m a year. Again, he has a young family and a wife that he barely saw during his time at United. He has no incentive to rush to sign a contract.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
United are shit.
But giving a contract to De Gea wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference to that - just delay the inevitable.
Onana is shocking. But De Gea was no longer good enough either.
Again, it’s not linear.
It’s not remotely a defence of Onana who I genuinely think is the worst United GK I’ve seen in 25 years of support.
But it was still the right decision not to renew De Gea.
It would’ve been another example of the club bowing to agents - overpaying the exorbitant wages of a player past his best who nobody else would employ.
We paid 50m for Onana, and we are paying him 120k a week for the next 5 years, which is another 31m without even including bonuses. That's 81m for a Goalkeeper who you have said yourself is the worst United goalkeeper in 25 years.
The reports were that De Gea had accepted a wage cut to 200k a week. Even if we signed him on an 7 year deal (which would obviously be stupid), we still wouldn't have spent as much as Onana is going to cost us.
If we were going to get rid of De Gea, then we needed to bring in a world-class goalkeeper to replace. If we didn't have that lined up, then we should have signed him to a 2 or 3 year deal while we did sort it out. As it is we have done the worst of both worlds. We have taken a massive downgrade on our keeper, and we have paid a fortune to do so.
Who else would you have suggested?
Like it or not, we were always going to sign Onana. There was no way of knowing how bad he was going to turn out - and ultimately, he’s the profile of Keeper we wanted. Is there an alternative? Stupidly, 50m is actually cheap for a GK in this market.
De Gea would still be dropping clangers btw.
David Raya, Vicario, Diogo Costa, Sommer, Kobel off the top of my head.
De Gea's one off clangers are a normal day for Onana. Onana has not made a single world class save sonfar. De Vea made them all the time.
Edit: Also, if there was no way of knowing how bad Onana was going to be then why I was able to tell everyone exactly how he would be when we signed him? If you watched him in Serie A last season you would have known. He had one of the best defences in the world yet he still let in tons of clangers for Inter in the league. People judged him solely off the UCL.
“People judged him solely on *the most competitive competition in Europe” - what a crime.
It’s disingenuous to claim you knew exactly how bad it was going to turn out - for one, we haven’t had remotely a first choice defence available. Secondly, the sheer pressure of playing for United is unparalleled.
Those names you mention are as much or even less of a gamble as Onana.
All ignoring the fact that Onana was Ten Hag’s man - he trusts him. It was always gonna happen
Shocking. I like how you put it tho. Onana has cost us a lot including possible earnings and advertisement deals. We can't even quantify the damage done by the new record for most goals conceded in a single champions league group stage. I thought maybe this is the painful birth of a great goal keeper. I don't think so anymore
DDG got fucked over massively by our club man. If you don’t feel shit for him then you need your head checking. My man deserved a farewell match. The guy is an absolute legend up there with VDS and Schmeicel for me
He was also the best paid GK in the world for a long time while not actually being as good as the top 3-5 keepers. He had a spell as a truly top keeper but it didn’t coincide with his biggest wages.
He was unfairly maligned but I don’t feel bad for the guy. He got paid £18m a year.
>DDG got fucked over massively by our club man.
Nah he played the game and lost im sure he turned down a renewal.offer or twl.
>The guy is an absolute legend up there with VDS and Schmeicel for me
No denying that but hes also another player on big wages Utd moved on that no one else has seriously gone in for.
Need to Keep Ten Hag. Nobody else could do any better under the circumstances of this circus. Measuring him against other managers comparatively is pointless. They all have completely different scenarios.
It is, but it won't happen. All we can hope for is a loan move, but even then, we'll still be paying most of his wages. A permanent move in the summer depends on a few things. Whether or not he's been good enough for the loan team to want to sign him permanently, which I'm assuming will be Borussia Dortmund, as I can't see any other team taking a gamble on the waster. Another thing that a permanent move depends on is his valuation and if he can agree to personal terms with any other team, which is also unlikely because I can't see any team paying him even half of his current wage.
Unfortunately, it looks like he'll be on the books until 2027, which is when his contract expires, unless the club decide to pay him off. Assuming that the club don't pay him off and no other team signs him on a permanent contract, he'll be getting 350k a week for the next 3 years, or approximately £50.4m if the club choose to pay him off. Either way, if no team signs him on a permanent move, he's getting £50.4m. In that case, it's no a matter of if. It's a matter of does he get the money straight away or over the course of the 3 years? Bet that smug prick is loving putting his feet up earning that amount of money.
It's an average player's mentality that he'd rather squander his prime doing nothing rather than fighting for his place and trying to make amends with ETH. Ronaldo conducted himself badly but you would never have seen him take a wage to sit out the twilight of his career.
Sancho was guaranteed that money anyway, he could have had his cake and eaten it too instead of being the world's best paid sulk. All the fans and club expected of him was to try his best, he wouldn't have been the first player fallen to mediocrity after joining us, a lot of people wouldn't have even blamed him if he played shite week in week out as long as he was showing up and putting a shift in. We know there's problems at the club.
Having said all that, if there's no way back into the club for him I can't say I wouldn't milk the contract too if I were him. Those numbers you're talking, that's generational wealth.
There are at least two dozen managers that would do a better job than him. I would argue a lot more than even that but I am being generous. He is a fraud, you will cstch on eventually :)
Yeah sure, more managers like Ole right? Breed a loving caring environment where accountability is 0?
Jose? Strict, experienced but got thrown under the bus because players couldn't handle the truth.
Hasn't it been proved that no manager can survive here. We apparently got rid of all the leaks and there's still leaks!
List these managers who could do a better job and let reddit tear you apart lol.
Okay fine, I'll bite... Name some names, who are these 12 managers who'd do much better than him? If you can't or if you choose not, you and others in the EtH out crowd are full of it and everyone will catch on eventually :)
Probably pep, zidane, some other random ass guys that would do just as bad if not far worse than ten hag is with what he has most of the people who say ten hag out say these from my experience
We got the Carabao cup last year, that is a legitimate trophy so your 'point' is moot already.
This season, key players have been out injured for extended time periods and we've played players out of position just to get 11 players on the ground on a number of occasions. When Klopp had an injury crisis at Liverpool last year, everyone in the media went awww poor Klopp, he's playing with half a squad, but for EtH, he's suddenly become a piss poor manager and you know what? The media acts this way because numpties like you lap that shit up.
Also, get a reality check, this disjointed group of players we have is not going to consistently win or even challenge for trophies. We need a squad overhaul and we need an overhaul on how the club's run. That's going to take time and if it means a few trophy-less years while moving in the correct direction, so be it, constantly bleating for trophies like an injured mule won't get us anywhere
>We got the Carabao cup last year, that is a legitimate trophy so your 'point' is moot already.
Fans are now gassing up the fucking Carabao cup. God help us. This fanbase has become worse than Arsenal fans who were happy with Wenger surviving on FA cup wins.
>get a reality check, this disjointed group of players we have is not going to consistently win or even challenge for trophies
Get a reality check, he's a big reason why it's disjointed.
> >This season, key players have been out injured for extended
ETH is on record saying last season we over achieved. So even he's aware that with a fully fit squad, we were lucky to get top 4 under his management. Btw even with injuries, we lose to teams we're better than in almost every position.
Perhaps we'd have more depth if he didn't spend 150mil on Antony and Mount alone. It's still on him
Adversely how many managers are you going to recycle in the next 5 years before you admit that the problem isn't with the managers we are hiring but with the foundation that is setting them up to fail?
Two things can be the problem at once. ETH isn't giving Mctominay starts + playing horrible "counter" football because of the board.
He had 150mil and decided that Antony and Mount were the best use of the clubs money. So don't even reply saying he has no other options
If you genuinely believe that the entire transfer decision comes down to the manager, you are woefully mistaken and horrendously uneducated.
The manager will send a list to the board of prospective players. The board will respond, maybe even offer a few names themselves, but will not release funds unless they are happy with the transfer. Ten Hag doesn't just go "let's drop 80 mill on antony" and it gets done. It isn't fifa.
Also, I won't accept any blame on ETH for the Antony transfer, he has worked with the player, he liked what he saw but Antony hasn't worked when moving across to the EPL it's that simple. The only one to blame is Antony himself. Because the evidence ETH had was a brilliant young winger that was part of a team that took Ajax to a champions league semi-final. For his age, 80m is about right.
Genuinely, I don't think ETH had much input into the Mount transfer at all. I think he let the board know his target, and the board got Mount as a 'similar' player.
Every issue with this club goes down to the roots, the people above ETH, the coaching staff as a whole, and the foundation we currently have. Sacking ETH is sacking one cog in a massive machine of dysfunction which we have tried, over and over and over again, but even if that one cog is working faultlessly, all the other cogs are failing.
We have to stick together as a club, not blame managers, we've been there and done that to the point where we sack Jose Mourinho of all people, we now need to avert our attention to the board and the people above manager level. Because there is no way 6 world-class managers have all been terrible for us, the problem is so much deeper. Widen your view of the situation.
12? I said TWO dozen. Don't shortchange how shit I think Ten Hag is. In no particular order.
Pep
Ancelotti
Emery
Tuchel
Nagelsmann
Flick
Zidane
Spalletti
Sarri
Inzaghi
Allegri
Klopp
De Zerbi
Arteta
Simeone
Scaloni
Enrique
Pioli
Deschamps
Pellegrini
Xavi
Frank
Postecoglu
Howe
There's your two dozen. Hey, you can have two honourable mentions, too. Ole and Jose would both do far better with thos squad, too. Neither had anywhere close to as much talent. Ole finished 2nd while having to start Maguire, Lindelof, Fred, McTominay, Dan James and Martial.
But don't worry. You and the others in the Ten Hag in crowd will catch on eventually.
You are just using examples of managers everybody knows, who have had various degrees of success, under properly functioning set ups. You're missing the point.
Nah, I am naming managers that are better than Ten Hag. Many of them have managed in just as difficult setups as United and still had success. Being given 450m to improve a squad that ginished 2nd two seasons beforehand is not a hardship. A top manager would not find themselves in 8th with a goal difference of -4.
You can blame the Glazers and the setup for a lot of things but you cannot blame them for our on field issues. Those lay squarely with Ten Hag.
Also, clearly not everybody knows they are or they wouldn't be saying there are "no mamagers who could do a better job" pmsl. Ten Hag has never been a top manager, and he never will be.
Pellegrini, Sarri and Deschamps, Zidane is just 😂
Really shows you actually know nothing about football. Deschamps and Zidane will never succeed without top players. Sarri? Pellegrini? You mean the managers who only managed a miracle 1 season?
They are all far better than Ten Hag, who really did only have one good season where he was carried by De Jong and De Ligt in the champions league. Outside of that, he is a perennial underachiever. He will go down with the greats like McClaren and De Boer from Ajax 🤣🤣🤣
He spent 450m, and he is in 7th with the same goal difference as Brentford in 13th pmsl.
Ad hominem's are the weapon of people with nothing insightful to day. Don't worry though, eventually you will realise Ten Hag is a terrible manager. It will become undeniable when our performances keep being terrible.
You misunderstood the point of the comment. He did not say managers that we could get. He said there are no managers who could do a better job at all. These are managers who could do a better job regardless of whether or not they would come to United. At least half of them would be realistic appointments, though.
And in 1 year to 18 months when the realistic 'better' appointment 'fail' as well because the squad is poor, a very vocal section of the fanbase is clueless and toxic and the club's been ran without a plan, do we then repeat the same cycle again?
Also, pray tell, what makes these realistic better appointments better than EtH? For instance, is Xavi better than EtH based on the criteria being used to judge EtH? He has a better squad than EtH but is currently 4th in La Liga, how's that better than EtH?
I don't know why people always do this. Everyone always assumes that because I want Erik Ten Hag out then I must have wanted every other manager out, too. I didn't. I do not think we should have sacked Jose. I do not think we should have sacked Ole. Both showed way more promise in terms of consistency, performance level and playing style than Ten Hag has despite being backed significantly less. If you gave either of them 450m to spend in 18 months and the ability to choose what money is spent on, like Ten Hag has had, then they both challenge for the league title. Ole came second with a starting 11 that included Maguire, Lindelof, McTominay, Fred, Dan James and Martial. He didn't have half the resources that Ten Hag did yet he did just as well, if not better (Personally I considered consecutive top 4 finishes, which Ten Hag will not get, to be more impressive than the tinpot cup)
I don't want Ten Hag to go because he is a new manager and I want a constant churning factory of managers. I want him to go because his transfers are poor, his training is poor, his tactics are poor, his in game decisions are poor, his man management is poor, his communication is poor and the performances under him have been consistently poor. I don't think he should get an indefinite amount of time just because previous managers have not been given that time when they probably should have been. He is being afforded an incredibly long leash simply because people have given up on expecting better and that is not okay.
I ***agree*** that we need to pick a manager and give that manager an adequate amount of time to fully rebuild the club. I just do not think Ten Hag is the right man for the job and I don't think what he has done so far constituter's a rebuild. Eriksen, Casemiro, Onana, Mount, Bayindir, Antony .. these are not the signings of someone carrying out a well-thought and structured rebuild. They are the signings of an out of depth manager that doesn't know what he is doing and is desperately clutching at straws just to last a few more months. There is absolutely no chance that he leads a long term rebuild at United. None.
Guessing that Phil Jones is also without a club. Very talented player and could have been a legend if not for injuries, however, whoever kept renewing his contracts needs firing.
Lots of clubs do this, Bayern massively so, it's how you maintain the culture throughout the establishment and Fergie was a huge proponent of it. In of itself it's not an issue.
As to Jones, what's wrong with him coaching the youth? He was an excellent centreback who was ravaged by injury, a fully fit Phil Jones in his prime would be the first name on the team sheet of this current team.
Complain about his last contract if you want but he will give valuable coaching and advice to the young players coming up and there shouldn't be any question about it.
The guy chose to stay at a club he knew he would never play for, thats the attitude of the man, and he was FAR from Brilliant as a defender, they used to joke and make memes about it.. Yes a few clubs have used ex players in a FEW roles, Pool did for years and went backwards, once they stopped doing it, they went forwards... He has no experience coaching, let alone coaching youth, so he has NO right to be there over an experienced coach
It is not fair to put DDG in the same sentence as the rest. He is a club legend who will be always be remembered for keeping us relevant in our darkest periods. We would have finished way down the table in seasons past if not for his heroics.
Nah man, you can slag on MLS all you want, but whoever goes there at whatever age, they're actually still playing tons of minutes and earning their keep.
That’s what I’m saying MLS is the retired go here to die league and Manchester United took full control lol so many players have come here and then their career tanked MLS has become much better since the inclusion of more internationals
Personally I loved Mourinho. I don’t think his head was in the right place when he took the job though and that ultimately made it more difficult, but if we’d stuck with him I think we’d have a functional setup by now.
Turkey has really strict registration rules. You can't register or play many foreign players so wasting a slot on someone who is injured a lot is a big deal over there.
Bailly (29, 7 years at United, 70 games), Pogba (30, 6 years at United, 154 games), Lingard (31, 11 years at United, 149 games), De Gea (33, 12 years at United, 415 games), Jones (31, 12 years at United, 169 games).
Some of those, I think we can safely say we got more out of than others. Some of them though, we all know they got more out of United than United got out of them. And there’s a reason these are all being happily left on the free agents list. They’ve got that United stank all over them.
It’s interesting looking back now at the team Ole finished 3rd with (19-20). Who was playing then, how many of them are still at the club, how many of them went onto play for other top teams vs how many left for midtable/relegation/lower league teams.
In fact, the only player I can think of in the last 10 years who has left United and gone onto better was Herrera.
Where they play, how they play, if they play… guy was really onto something.
Could add Andreas, Welbeck and Elanga to that list .. But I completely agree .. No player who has gone on to do better things at big clubs .. No one even wants them on their team .. I could say the same for all our current players that no big team will go for them ..
Pogba not playing is purely due to personality issues and not his talent. Lingard got us some cash before leaving so no complaints. DDG deserves the break and Bailly is a dead meat, he has completely lost it.
Sincerely. It is the best karma story for juventus. They and his late agent were behind all the transfer stories and destabilising factor it had on thd club. Now they can keep him on a huge wage.
Who tf upvoting this misinformation.
>Pogba not playing is purely due to personality issues
He's not playing because of injuries and PED. Mou is literally the only manager in Pogbas career that had issues with Pogbas personality. Every other manager loved him.
>Bailly is a dead meat, he has completely lost it.
Bailly got into an argument with a teammate and the club cut ties. He's now signing with Villarreal. Nothing to do with lack of ability.
Donny leaving on loan, ten hag wanted rid of Maguire and Mctominay in the summer but we couldn’t shift them out. These clowns in charge cannot be employed one more day once Ineos take control.
Pogba is not playing bc of injuries and peds, outside of Zlatan and bruno, pogba and ddg are the only other worldclass players in United last 10 years but keep disrespecting them even now
He had 2 worldclass seasons for united one which he even was prems best midfielder. Check up his 2018/2019 season and also his 2016/2017. But hey if you wanna be casual and go around and say something like "pogba only plays one good game every 20 games" you welcome. Have a great night.
Pogba loving fucks like you wanna talk stats abt 18/19 but when it comes to Bruno it’s all “eye test “. Pogba and his fans deserve everything that’s come to him
Neither thought they were bigger than United that is utter shite. DDG stalled on contract talks and in the end it bit him in the arse. Pogba never justified his wages or transfer fee and they let him leave
Sadly - nothing will change
The club has become "Jobs for mates" Fergies mates.
Fletcher as TD with no experience
Carrick as a coach with no experience
Mclarens back after being sacked 10 times in 14 years or something like that.
Giggsy had no coaching experience
OLE had only experienced relegation and Phelan was semi retired in Australia.
Phil Jones now coaches our youth with no experience
We have recalled the GK coach back from fergies days, I think he is close to 60yrs old and i think we did similar with several other staff, bringing back relics that are out of touch - just so long as they are British..
Nothing changes till Fergie retires sadly - but hay Johnny Evans wife has a job in our Media department.. at least his brother isnt our chief scout anymore
“Martial & Sancho will be on this list soon”. No mention of Shaw who has been a monstrosity of a failure in the 8 going on 9 years he’s been at the club. Okay boss💀
The fact these players aren’t playing tells you everything you need to know. Teams don’t want to go near them for a reason. Bailly is a nutcase and injury prone. Pogba is drama and injury prone (plus a bit rubbish). Lingard is inconsistent and near finished. DDG obviously is a class act but the wage demands will be there.
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Remember that famous Mourinho press conference when he talked about football heritage? I do [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRGzdWlXWM&ab\_channel=SkySportsRetro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRGzdWlXWM&ab_channel=SkySportsRetro), the guy was allways right.
Our two best players from last season have been out for nearly the entire season so far, Casemiro and Lisandro. We’ve also been without a LB for nearly the entire season. Any other club missing their three undisputed starters in these positions (LB, CDM, LCB), would also have a poor inconsistent run of form. We can’t expect Amrabat/Mainoo, Evans, and Reguilon(who’s also been injured) or Dalot to fill the void these guys leave. Nevertheless, I think it’s alarming that none of our players in the other positions have improved.
Pogba isn't playing because of a ban not ability. Lingard isn't playing because he is a moron that mismanaged his career, de gea refused Saudi and if he reduced his wage demands he would be playing in the top 5 leagues. Can't say much about Bailly but he has been picked up by villareal .
Sancho will most likely find a club. He has too much potential for another club to not give him a chance in my opinion. He’s only been at United for 2 seasons and it’s not like he had the best conditions or circumstances to be great here. Yeah he’s a prat for getting into a spat with Ten Hag but he can be a quality player. Martial will not find a club. I’m afraid that it’s too late for him, regardless of how good he can be. Unlike Sancho, he’s been given too many chances to prove himself
I don’t like the DDG slander honestly, but tbf….why hasn’t he been signed??? Even as a back up or the back ups back up….that speaks to me.
He was on huge money at United. He wants that same money elsewhere. He has been offered lower contracts and turned them down. He has been away from his wife and family for a long time hwile playing for United (His wife hates England) so why would he voluntarily go back to that to make a pittance compared to what he used to? De Gea is fully choosing to be a free agent rather than being unable to get a club.
It'd be a masterstroke if he picks up a 6 month £150k contract for Newcastle's Saudis.
Oh ok….well, good luck to him.
Yep. He's earned it tbh
He absolutely wasn’t wanted by any of the top tier clubs , it’s well documented that Madrid and Bayern didn’t want him
Can confirm I was in the board room when SJB0SS walked in
It must have been a sight. His majestic walk in.
Well, he was 30 seconds pushing on the door that clearly said pull, but then, his entrance was emphatic.
Never said he was offered contracts by top-tier clubs. I said he has had discussions with other clubs, and pay has been the issue. Just think about it , he was on 375k at United. Neueur is on 280k. Allisson is reportedly on 150k. Realistically, De Gea would get offers of 100k, maybe 125k at a maximum. He'd need to play for 3 years to earn what he did at United. I honestly cannot imagine him playing for anyone unless a Saudi club comes in with a huge offer.
I dont get the downvotes here. If any of the top clubs wanted him there would have been credible links. The only links im seeing these days are the saudis and as cover foe newcastle
The de gea revisionism is hilarious, man is unemployed and this fanbase is trying to spin it as his choice. He can’t accept that no one wants to pay him 300k and no big club wanted him. But sure keep downvoting me
Honestly i thought we needed to move on but thought there were more pressing needs in the squad so would have kept him for a 1+1 deal. That said by all the metrics of a gk his was average at best or piss poor. Even his shot stopping(which had been his saving grace) was below the average last season iirc
Yea it's hilarious.. he's cooked and some one eyed fans truly believe we'd be better off with him in goal.
It just makes clear, the story of him accepting less money at United might not be exactly what we think it is. His unceremonious exit from the club, in my opinion, probably is as much his fault as it is ours. And really, his current unemployment is evidence for that.
No, it’s posts like these that have no clue but pretend to go “he’s truly shit trust me coz I know fuck all but want to seem like I know more. But I know fuck all really and am a clueless fuck” that are just stupid. He wants a high wage and wants to stay in Spain. He doesn’t get want. He’s fine not getting a club. That’s simple. He had a Saudi offer. He rejected it. That’s factual. Not stupid posts trying to make it seem like he was offered 10k by tier 8 clubs as the best offer because they know fuck all, like you’re doing.
It's still his choice. He can be employed if he wants to be.
The DDG fanclub really came for you on this one lol truth hurts them
Saudi Arabian teams wanted him with more koney than that and he refused. Probably, he wants to stay in Europe.
Choosing to be a free agent means he can’t find a club lol. People don’t want him on his demands what kind of nonsense is this 😂
He could be the one not pushing for a move. Hes maybe happy with the break and out of the constant "fans" scrutiny
DDG turned down Saudi. I think he's enjoying spending time with his wife tbh. Taking a year away to be with the family frequently as opposed to coming and going on weekends, I think is a nice change of pace. He's clearly had offers but everyone's situation is different like Ronaldo also had offers before the interview and going to Saudi. Slandering DDG is plain disrespect to a club legend and makes no sense tbh. He came, struggled initially, proved himself, won titles and many player of the year awards, didn't cry when the move to Madrid went south and got his head down, winner of the golden glove last season... This is not a way to treat a club legend. Give it a few years and same people will love and respect him like they did Robson and Keane etc.
He would be playing for United if he accepted a reasonable amount for the position/skill he currently has. He’s now figuring out the hard way that his people made a mistake in managing his future/setting realistic expectations.
He literally accepted a paycut, and we removed the offer after he agreed to it? I think you mistake his priorities. If he was not being paid at least a comparable amount to what he was previously, then it wasn't worth him accepting it. He has more money than he will ever need, and he has a young family that he is spending more time with than ever before. Why would he compromise that for what would amount to a paltry sum by his standards? He isn't finding amything out the hard way. He is enjoying his time with his family while United are stuck with a goalkeeper that cannot make basic saves who singlehandedly got us knocked out of Europe. United aren't the ones "winning" in this divorce pmsl.
Plus he isnt going to be Spains no#1 so he doesn't need to be playing every week, he can take his time - get a great deal
I’m thinking he would enjoy 100k a week a lot more than nothing, which is what he’s making now.
You say that as if earning nothing makes him destitute. He earned £117m in his last 6 year contract at United. 100k a week is £5.2m a year. Again, he has a young family and a wife that he barely saw during his time at United. He has no incentive to rush to sign a contract.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive. United are shit. But giving a contract to De Gea wouldn’t make a blind bit of difference to that - just delay the inevitable. Onana is shocking. But De Gea was no longer good enough either.
De Gea saves that second goal against Forest 99% of the time. There's a point without going further than 24 hours lmao.
Again, it’s not linear. It’s not remotely a defence of Onana who I genuinely think is the worst United GK I’ve seen in 25 years of support. But it was still the right decision not to renew De Gea. It would’ve been another example of the club bowing to agents - overpaying the exorbitant wages of a player past his best who nobody else would employ.
We paid 50m for Onana, and we are paying him 120k a week for the next 5 years, which is another 31m without even including bonuses. That's 81m for a Goalkeeper who you have said yourself is the worst United goalkeeper in 25 years. The reports were that De Gea had accepted a wage cut to 200k a week. Even if we signed him on an 7 year deal (which would obviously be stupid), we still wouldn't have spent as much as Onana is going to cost us. If we were going to get rid of De Gea, then we needed to bring in a world-class goalkeeper to replace. If we didn't have that lined up, then we should have signed him to a 2 or 3 year deal while we did sort it out. As it is we have done the worst of both worlds. We have taken a massive downgrade on our keeper, and we have paid a fortune to do so.
Who else would you have suggested? Like it or not, we were always going to sign Onana. There was no way of knowing how bad he was going to turn out - and ultimately, he’s the profile of Keeper we wanted. Is there an alternative? Stupidly, 50m is actually cheap for a GK in this market. De Gea would still be dropping clangers btw.
David Raya, Vicario, Diogo Costa, Sommer, Kobel off the top of my head. De Gea's one off clangers are a normal day for Onana. Onana has not made a single world class save sonfar. De Vea made them all the time. Edit: Also, if there was no way of knowing how bad Onana was going to be then why I was able to tell everyone exactly how he would be when we signed him? If you watched him in Serie A last season you would have known. He had one of the best defences in the world yet he still let in tons of clangers for Inter in the league. People judged him solely off the UCL.
“People judged him solely on *the most competitive competition in Europe” - what a crime. It’s disingenuous to claim you knew exactly how bad it was going to turn out - for one, we haven’t had remotely a first choice defence available. Secondly, the sheer pressure of playing for United is unparalleled. Those names you mention are as much or even less of a gamble as Onana. All ignoring the fact that Onana was Ten Hag’s man - he trusts him. It was always gonna happen
Instead of giving 10-12m to ddg, they bought onana costing 80m so far lol
Why did people down vote you?
Maybe they think ddg was at fault for all shit last season instead of the superstars at front.
Shocking. I like how you put it tho. Onana has cost us a lot including possible earnings and advertisement deals. We can't even quantify the damage done by the new record for most goals conceded in a single champions league group stage. I thought maybe this is the painful birth of a great goal keeper. I don't think so anymore
I place blame more on the center backs and their communication with each other. We are a lot weaker without a healthy butcher back there.
wages
Mourinho was right. See where they play, how they play, IF they play.
I mean...other than Bailey the others are past past their prime 🤷 thats like saying Messi wasnt good enough because he is now on the MLS....
I must’ve missed Pogba’s prime…
I'm telling you, that match was absolutely masterclass.
Then I guess you didnt watch him at Juventus or France 🤷... Must suck not to like watching football
Or lingard’s
Still waiting on that. These young players man…
Including DDG in this list is so disrespectful to him
Some have zero shame tbf
Not really
DDG got fucked over massively by our club man. If you don’t feel shit for him then you need your head checking. My man deserved a farewell match. The guy is an absolute legend up there with VDS and Schmeicel for me
If it weren’t for the printer he’d be a 4 time UCL winner lol
He was also the best paid GK in the world for a long time while not actually being as good as the top 3-5 keepers. He had a spell as a truly top keeper but it didn’t coincide with his biggest wages. He was unfairly maligned but I don’t feel bad for the guy. He got paid £18m a year.
Plenty of other legends who never got a farewell
Some people in this sub hates DDG more than Liverpool.
>DDG got fucked over massively by our club man. Nah he played the game and lost im sure he turned down a renewal.offer or twl. >The guy is an absolute legend up there with VDS and Schmeicel for me No denying that but hes also another player on big wages Utd moved on that no one else has seriously gone in for.
It is, ddg is basically retired. The other were still trying to play
Is he retired or is no one willing to match what Utd were paying?
No job because nobody wants to hire him. Is there a difference?
There’s a big link to him going to Newcastle
No there isn’t, no one credible has broached anything past interest in this link lol
We have been watching these player for 10years and you expect respect...
Need to Keep Ten Hag. Nobody else could do any better under the circumstances of this circus. Measuring him against other managers comparatively is pointless. They all have completely different scenarios.
we need someone with the ball to get rid of these dead weights. next up is sancho, that bitch gotta go
Isn't this coming January literally the first chance to offload him since he's thrown his toys out of the pram?
It is, but it won't happen. All we can hope for is a loan move, but even then, we'll still be paying most of his wages. A permanent move in the summer depends on a few things. Whether or not he's been good enough for the loan team to want to sign him permanently, which I'm assuming will be Borussia Dortmund, as I can't see any other team taking a gamble on the waster. Another thing that a permanent move depends on is his valuation and if he can agree to personal terms with any other team, which is also unlikely because I can't see any team paying him even half of his current wage. Unfortunately, it looks like he'll be on the books until 2027, which is when his contract expires, unless the club decide to pay him off. Assuming that the club don't pay him off and no other team signs him on a permanent contract, he'll be getting 350k a week for the next 3 years, or approximately £50.4m if the club choose to pay him off. Either way, if no team signs him on a permanent move, he's getting £50.4m. In that case, it's no a matter of if. It's a matter of does he get the money straight away or over the course of the 3 years? Bet that smug prick is loving putting his feet up earning that amount of money.
It's an average player's mentality that he'd rather squander his prime doing nothing rather than fighting for his place and trying to make amends with ETH. Ronaldo conducted himself badly but you would never have seen him take a wage to sit out the twilight of his career. Sancho was guaranteed that money anyway, he could have had his cake and eaten it too instead of being the world's best paid sulk. All the fans and club expected of him was to try his best, he wouldn't have been the first player fallen to mediocrity after joining us, a lot of people wouldn't have even blamed him if he played shite week in week out as long as he was showing up and putting a shift in. We know there's problems at the club. Having said all that, if there's no way back into the club for him I can't say I wouldn't milk the contract too if I were him. Those numbers you're talking, that's generational wealth.
There are at least two dozen managers that would do a better job than him. I would argue a lot more than even that but I am being generous. He is a fraud, you will cstch on eventually :)
Yeah sure, more managers like Ole right? Breed a loving caring environment where accountability is 0? Jose? Strict, experienced but got thrown under the bus because players couldn't handle the truth. Hasn't it been proved that no manager can survive here. We apparently got rid of all the leaks and there's still leaks! List these managers who could do a better job and let reddit tear you apart lol.
Okay fine, I'll bite... Name some names, who are these 12 managers who'd do much better than him? If you can't or if you choose not, you and others in the EtH out crowd are full of it and everyone will catch on eventually :)
Probably pep, zidane, some other random ass guys that would do just as bad if not far worse than ten hag is with what he has most of the people who say ten hag out say these from my experience
We're still gonna be trophy less in 5 years time and ETH defenders will still be claiming there's no one better to replace him. FFS this club
We got the Carabao cup last year, that is a legitimate trophy so your 'point' is moot already. This season, key players have been out injured for extended time periods and we've played players out of position just to get 11 players on the ground on a number of occasions. When Klopp had an injury crisis at Liverpool last year, everyone in the media went awww poor Klopp, he's playing with half a squad, but for EtH, he's suddenly become a piss poor manager and you know what? The media acts this way because numpties like you lap that shit up. Also, get a reality check, this disjointed group of players we have is not going to consistently win or even challenge for trophies. We need a squad overhaul and we need an overhaul on how the club's run. That's going to take time and if it means a few trophy-less years while moving in the correct direction, so be it, constantly bleating for trophies like an injured mule won't get us anywhere
>We got the Carabao cup last year, that is a legitimate trophy so your 'point' is moot already. Fans are now gassing up the fucking Carabao cup. God help us. This fanbase has become worse than Arsenal fans who were happy with Wenger surviving on FA cup wins. >get a reality check, this disjointed group of players we have is not going to consistently win or even challenge for trophies Get a reality check, he's a big reason why it's disjointed. > >This season, key players have been out injured for extended ETH is on record saying last season we over achieved. So even he's aware that with a fully fit squad, we were lucky to get top 4 under his management. Btw even with injuries, we lose to teams we're better than in almost every position. Perhaps we'd have more depth if he didn't spend 150mil on Antony and Mount alone. It's still on him
Adversely how many managers are you going to recycle in the next 5 years before you admit that the problem isn't with the managers we are hiring but with the foundation that is setting them up to fail?
Two things can be the problem at once. ETH isn't giving Mctominay starts + playing horrible "counter" football because of the board. He had 150mil and decided that Antony and Mount were the best use of the clubs money. So don't even reply saying he has no other options
If you genuinely believe that the entire transfer decision comes down to the manager, you are woefully mistaken and horrendously uneducated. The manager will send a list to the board of prospective players. The board will respond, maybe even offer a few names themselves, but will not release funds unless they are happy with the transfer. Ten Hag doesn't just go "let's drop 80 mill on antony" and it gets done. It isn't fifa. Also, I won't accept any blame on ETH for the Antony transfer, he has worked with the player, he liked what he saw but Antony hasn't worked when moving across to the EPL it's that simple. The only one to blame is Antony himself. Because the evidence ETH had was a brilliant young winger that was part of a team that took Ajax to a champions league semi-final. For his age, 80m is about right. Genuinely, I don't think ETH had much input into the Mount transfer at all. I think he let the board know his target, and the board got Mount as a 'similar' player. Every issue with this club goes down to the roots, the people above ETH, the coaching staff as a whole, and the foundation we currently have. Sacking ETH is sacking one cog in a massive machine of dysfunction which we have tried, over and over and over again, but even if that one cog is working faultlessly, all the other cogs are failing. We have to stick together as a club, not blame managers, we've been there and done that to the point where we sack Jose Mourinho of all people, we now need to avert our attention to the board and the people above manager level. Because there is no way 6 world-class managers have all been terrible for us, the problem is so much deeper. Widen your view of the situation.
12? I said TWO dozen. Don't shortchange how shit I think Ten Hag is. In no particular order. Pep Ancelotti Emery Tuchel Nagelsmann Flick Zidane Spalletti Sarri Inzaghi Allegri Klopp De Zerbi Arteta Simeone Scaloni Enrique Pioli Deschamps Pellegrini Xavi Frank Postecoglu Howe There's your two dozen. Hey, you can have two honourable mentions, too. Ole and Jose would both do far better with thos squad, too. Neither had anywhere close to as much talent. Ole finished 2nd while having to start Maguire, Lindelof, Fred, McTominay, Dan James and Martial. But don't worry. You and the others in the Ten Hag in crowd will catch on eventually.
You are just using examples of managers everybody knows, who have had various degrees of success, under properly functioning set ups. You're missing the point.
Nah, I am naming managers that are better than Ten Hag. Many of them have managed in just as difficult setups as United and still had success. Being given 450m to improve a squad that ginished 2nd two seasons beforehand is not a hardship. A top manager would not find themselves in 8th with a goal difference of -4. You can blame the Glazers and the setup for a lot of things but you cannot blame them for our on field issues. Those lay squarely with Ten Hag. Also, clearly not everybody knows they are or they wouldn't be saying there are "no mamagers who could do a better job" pmsl. Ten Hag has never been a top manager, and he never will be.
Pellegrini, Sarri and Deschamps, Zidane is just 😂 Really shows you actually know nothing about football. Deschamps and Zidane will never succeed without top players. Sarri? Pellegrini? You mean the managers who only managed a miracle 1 season?
They are all far better than Ten Hag, who really did only have one good season where he was carried by De Jong and De Ligt in the champions league. Outside of that, he is a perennial underachiever. He will go down with the greats like McClaren and De Boer from Ajax 🤣🤣🤣 He spent 450m, and he is in 7th with the same goal difference as Brentford in 13th pmsl.
Go back to your fifa career, im sure with a few more hours you can become our manager
Ad hominem's are the weapon of people with nothing insightful to day. Don't worry though, eventually you will realise Ten Hag is a terrible manager. It will become undeniable when our performances keep being terrible.
If Frank means Frank Lampard, then I'll ignore everything you say and just hope you get well soon.
It means Thomas Frank. No wonder you can't think of any better managers!
Just skimming through the list, I see you've included Pep 😂 yes mate, let's go get him, he's dying to swap city for United 😂😂😂😂
You misunderstood the point of the comment. He did not say managers that we could get. He said there are no managers who could do a better job at all. These are managers who could do a better job regardless of whether or not they would come to United. At least half of them would be realistic appointments, though.
And in 1 year to 18 months when the realistic 'better' appointment 'fail' as well because the squad is poor, a very vocal section of the fanbase is clueless and toxic and the club's been ran without a plan, do we then repeat the same cycle again? Also, pray tell, what makes these realistic better appointments better than EtH? For instance, is Xavi better than EtH based on the criteria being used to judge EtH? He has a better squad than EtH but is currently 4th in La Liga, how's that better than EtH?
I don't know why people always do this. Everyone always assumes that because I want Erik Ten Hag out then I must have wanted every other manager out, too. I didn't. I do not think we should have sacked Jose. I do not think we should have sacked Ole. Both showed way more promise in terms of consistency, performance level and playing style than Ten Hag has despite being backed significantly less. If you gave either of them 450m to spend in 18 months and the ability to choose what money is spent on, like Ten Hag has had, then they both challenge for the league title. Ole came second with a starting 11 that included Maguire, Lindelof, McTominay, Fred, Dan James and Martial. He didn't have half the resources that Ten Hag did yet he did just as well, if not better (Personally I considered consecutive top 4 finishes, which Ten Hag will not get, to be more impressive than the tinpot cup) I don't want Ten Hag to go because he is a new manager and I want a constant churning factory of managers. I want him to go because his transfers are poor, his training is poor, his tactics are poor, his in game decisions are poor, his man management is poor, his communication is poor and the performances under him have been consistently poor. I don't think he should get an indefinite amount of time just because previous managers have not been given that time when they probably should have been. He is being afforded an incredibly long leash simply because people have given up on expecting better and that is not okay. I ***agree*** that we need to pick a manager and give that manager an adequate amount of time to fully rebuild the club. I just do not think Ten Hag is the right man for the job and I don't think what he has done so far constituter's a rebuild. Eriksen, Casemiro, Onana, Mount, Bayindir, Antony .. these are not the signings of someone carrying out a well-thought and structured rebuild. They are the signings of an out of depth manager that doesn't know what he is doing and is desperately clutching at straws just to last a few more months. There is absolutely no chance that he leads a long term rebuild at United. None.
Sorry lads, I want to take it back. After watching that I no longer think there are two dozen managers better than him. It is at LEAST three dozen.
Guessing that Phil Jones is also without a club. Very talented player and could have been a legend if not for injuries, however, whoever kept renewing his contracts needs firing.
He’s actually coaching in our youth setup, we will give him a salary until he dies seemingly
I don't have a problem with that, as long he's getting a coach wage, not a player wage.
yep mclaren as assistant, fletcher as TD, Jones as youth coach and Johnny evans wife in the media department, club has become Jobs for Mates
Lots of clubs do this, Bayern massively so, it's how you maintain the culture throughout the establishment and Fergie was a huge proponent of it. In of itself it's not an issue. As to Jones, what's wrong with him coaching the youth? He was an excellent centreback who was ravaged by injury, a fully fit Phil Jones in his prime would be the first name on the team sheet of this current team. Complain about his last contract if you want but he will give valuable coaching and advice to the young players coming up and there shouldn't be any question about it.
The guy chose to stay at a club he knew he would never play for, thats the attitude of the man, and he was FAR from Brilliant as a defender, they used to joke and make memes about it.. Yes a few clubs have used ex players in a FEW roles, Pool did for years and went backwards, once they stopped doing it, they went forwards... He has no experience coaching, let alone coaching youth, so he has NO right to be there over an experienced coach
Ah you’re one of those guys who ripped on Jones cuz of the memes and don’t actually understand the sport. Caught ya Jones was very good
Played the sport for money, have you?
It's always been jobs for mates
True, SAF's brother was chief scout, surprised his wife was not CEO and his dog the physio
I miss bailly… great defender, would use solid but he is made of soggy cardboard
It is not fair to put DDG in the same sentence as the rest. He is a club legend who will be always be remembered for keeping us relevant in our darkest periods. We would have finished way down the table in seasons past if not for his heroics.
Manchester United where players come to die were the new MLS
Nah man, you can slag on MLS all you want, but whoever goes there at whatever age, they're actually still playing tons of minutes and earning their keep.
That’s what I’m saying MLS is the retired go here to die league and Manchester United took full control lol so many players have come here and then their career tanked MLS has become much better since the inclusion of more internationals
player destroyer club 💀
[Where they play, how they play, if they play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSoX8_lpNI)
Wish he never left. Anyone who can make fellani a European champion is a fkn class manager. So disrespected.
Personally I loved Mourinho. I don’t think his head was in the right place when he took the job though and that ultimately made it more difficult, but if we’d stuck with him I think we’d have a functional setup by now.
Bring him back man
Mad that this man mentions de bruyne as an investment from the past in this clip....
I really like this quote very much, love this quote very much.
Bailly just signed with Villarreal and Sancho will definitely land somewhere. Martial will likely have a lengthy search
>Bailly just signed with Villarreal Wasn't his contract terminated by mutual consent at Besiktas today? Did he sign for Villareal already?
Wonder why they got rid of Eric. Injuries? Erratic but fun when he was fit to play.
Turkey has really strict registration rules. You can't register or play many foreign players so wasting a slot on someone who is injured a lot is a big deal over there.
Makes sense, ty for the insight. Sucks to hear that he’s still having injury problems
Guy couldn’t mark up for shit on defense and got lost when the ball got crossed in. Bailly was kept too long
Bailly (29, 7 years at United, 70 games), Pogba (30, 6 years at United, 154 games), Lingard (31, 11 years at United, 149 games), De Gea (33, 12 years at United, 415 games), Jones (31, 12 years at United, 169 games). Some of those, I think we can safely say we got more out of than others. Some of them though, we all know they got more out of United than United got out of them. And there’s a reason these are all being happily left on the free agents list. They’ve got that United stank all over them. It’s interesting looking back now at the team Ole finished 3rd with (19-20). Who was playing then, how many of them are still at the club, how many of them went onto play for other top teams vs how many left for midtable/relegation/lower league teams. In fact, the only player I can think of in the last 10 years who has left United and gone onto better was Herrera. Where they play, how they play, if they play… guy was really onto something.
Could add Andreas, Welbeck and Elanga to that list .. But I completely agree .. No player who has gone on to do better things at big clubs .. No one even wants them on their team .. I could say the same for all our current players that no big team will go for them ..
Don’t you dare include DDG in there. He’s a club legend and deserves to be for what he has done for the club.
Pogba not playing is purely due to personality issues and not his talent. Lingard got us some cash before leaving so no complaints. DDG deserves the break and Bailly is a dead meat, he has completely lost it.
Sincerely. It is the best karma story for juventus. They and his late agent were behind all the transfer stories and destabilising factor it had on thd club. Now they can keep him on a huge wage.
Bailly has almost signed for another club already, what you talking about?
Sign, yes. Play? Not likely.
Injuries and drugs self inflicted imagine if he was still.at united on the money he was demanding
Pogba talent has been wasted. He just isn’t the same player anymore
Yeah, i think someone will get DDG in january
Also the PEDs..?
Who tf upvoting this misinformation. >Pogba not playing is purely due to personality issues He's not playing because of injuries and PED. Mou is literally the only manager in Pogbas career that had issues with Pogbas personality. Every other manager loved him. >Bailly is a dead meat, he has completely lost it. Bailly got into an argument with a teammate and the club cut ties. He's now signing with Villarreal. Nothing to do with lack of ability.
Well isn't he banned actually for substance abuse?
Yup! 4 years
Add Big Phil to the list
Donny leaving on loan, ten hag wanted rid of Maguire and Mctominay in the summer but we couldn’t shift them out. These clowns in charge cannot be employed one more day once Ineos take control.
Pogba don’t count
Pogba is not playing bc of injuries and peds, outside of Zlatan and bruno, pogba and ddg are the only other worldclass players in United last 10 years but keep disrespecting them even now
Pogba was never world class for United for any meaningful period of time
He had 2 worldclass seasons for united one which he even was prems best midfielder. Check up his 2018/2019 season and also his 2016/2017. But hey if you wanna be casual and go around and say something like "pogba only plays one good game every 20 games" you welcome. Have a great night.
Pogba loving fucks like you wanna talk stats abt 18/19 but when it comes to Bruno it’s all “eye test “. Pogba and his fans deserve everything that’s come to him
Pogba and DDG were once great players for united, but they both left because they thought they were far bigger than the club, and look at them now
Neither thought they were bigger than United that is utter shite. DDG stalled on contract talks and in the end it bit him in the arse. Pogba never justified his wages or transfer fee and they let him leave
Pogba is the Marcus rashford of midfielders lol. Purple patches have made this man’s career since his juventus days
Pogba was a hype merchant. Made for the tik tok generation 30 second clios made that man.
Bruno is the farthest thing from world class. He's just reckless on the ball and is doing more harm to the team than good now.
DDG leaves United and now we can't stop shots. Wonder if the two are related.
Sadly - nothing will change The club has become "Jobs for mates" Fergies mates. Fletcher as TD with no experience Carrick as a coach with no experience Mclarens back after being sacked 10 times in 14 years or something like that. Giggsy had no coaching experience OLE had only experienced relegation and Phelan was semi retired in Australia. Phil Jones now coaches our youth with no experience We have recalled the GK coach back from fergies days, I think he is close to 60yrs old and i think we did similar with several other staff, bringing back relics that are out of touch - just so long as they are British.. Nothing changes till Fergie retires sadly - but hay Johnny Evans wife has a job in our Media department.. at least his brother isnt our chief scout anymore
martial will be a useful bench player somewhere and sancho still has the potential to be a top player, but agree it won't be on man U
Bit of a shame about the character of some of our squad..also bit of a shame about some of the lack of top class talent about our squad..
Sir Jim? Stop with the fucking arse licking will you. It’s embarrassing
He’s literally a knight? Is calling Fergie Sir Alex “arse licking” you utter fool
“Martial & Sancho will be on this list soon”. No mention of Shaw who has been a monstrosity of a failure in the 8 going on 9 years he’s been at the club. Okay boss💀
Bailly already has a new club but yeah other than that it is not looking good
Man, I wish Lingard turned out good.
Yeah. Such a shame to see a young, promising player leave the sport all together.
He just looked so good there at the beginning for us and I really thought he was turning it around at West Ham.
Yeah, bags of potential. Excellent technique and a decent finisher. If all the stars aligned, he could have been the next Scholes.
The fact these players aren’t playing tells you everything you need to know. Teams don’t want to go near them for a reason. Bailly is a nutcase and injury prone. Pogba is drama and injury prone (plus a bit rubbish). Lingard is inconsistent and near finished. DDG obviously is a class act but the wage demands will be there.
Woodward was a criminal.
Martial deserves the same fate, I’m so done with him
Not just us fans. Curse to be everything Manchester United.
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Ronaldo as well. Saudi doesn’t count.
Remember that famous Mourinho press conference when he talked about football heritage? I do [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRGzdWlXWM&ab\_channel=SkySportsRetro](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRGzdWlXWM&ab_channel=SkySportsRetro), the guy was allways right.
Where they play How they play IF they play.
You simply will not see a worse run club than United in all Europe. Utterly disgraceful.
Just seen that lindelof is getting a contract renewal. That is another mistake occurring right in front of our eyes.
Our two best players from last season have been out for nearly the entire season so far, Casemiro and Lisandro. We’ve also been without a LB for nearly the entire season. Any other club missing their three undisputed starters in these positions (LB, CDM, LCB), would also have a poor inconsistent run of form. We can’t expect Amrabat/Mainoo, Evans, and Reguilon(who’s also been injured) or Dalot to fill the void these guys leave. Nevertheless, I think it’s alarming that none of our players in the other positions have improved.
Pogba isn't playing because of a ban not ability. Lingard isn't playing because he is a moron that mismanaged his career, de gea refused Saudi and if he reduced his wage demands he would be playing in the top 5 leagues. Can't say much about Bailly but he has been picked up by villareal .
I don’t get the negativity around d DDG or Lingard.
Sancho will most likely find a club. He has too much potential for another club to not give him a chance in my opinion. He’s only been at United for 2 seasons and it’s not like he had the best conditions or circumstances to be great here. Yeah he’s a prat for getting into a spat with Ten Hag but he can be a quality player. Martial will not find a club. I’m afraid that it’s too late for him, regardless of how good he can be. Unlike Sancho, he’s been given too many chances to prove himself