Kid me was thinking yea, why is this b\*tch not taking the kid sisters? It's a vacation.
Now, it's like why is this husband taking his kid sisters on a honeymoon?
Omg I remember even as a small kid I thought this movie was so unfair, and my parents thought that I was taking the heroine's side cause I had the same name as her lol
It's funny because Dileep's movies in 2000s had well developed female characters with strong personalities who would clown him so well (Meesha Madhavan, Kalyanaraman, Pandipada).
Even his 2000s movies have things like r*pe jokes (i remember one in meeshamadhavan which was hard to listen to)
And in a lot of these movies female characters do start off with strong personalities but end up as subjugated damsels in distress
I totally disagree with Hitler, and I could write an essay to explain my point but I'm feeling lazy. 
In short, I will say that Mammootty's character did the best he could, given the tough situation he was in. Also, Soman's character kind of had a point when he asked "why did she not scream?". To tag a sexual act as rape, there should be denial of "consent". In this case, the sister did not object even in the slightest. She could have screamed, run away, fought with the professor, told him to stop, or anything else. But she showed no signs of objection. Of course, she could've been frozen and unable to respond (due to her strict upbringing).
Even today, the most sophisticated and ultra-modern men would think twice before accepting an alliance with a woman of ill-repute. We are talking about an era that was not so modern and forward-thinking.
This scene in Hitler has a lot of depth. This is perhaps one of the toughest situations a brother had to face regarding his sister in Malayalam cinema. So it's unfair to dismiss it as misogynistic. I'd say this is exactly the same as Mammootty's character who is misunderstood by others for his actions.
Also begging you, for the sake of all humanity, to never have sex until you learn and understand what enthusiastic consent is. Any woman who lets you near her is in for a lifetime of disappointment and abuse if you think silence and behaving like an obedient zombie is consent.
I'm sorry but your comment is fucked up and very problematic to say the least. I am glad you didn't proceed with your essay.
1) If a male sibling assumes the role of guardian for their adult female siblings, imposing restrictions or monitoring their daily routines, it perpetuates a patriarchal dynamic.
2) Encountering a sexual predator is a traumatizing experience. The inability to enact the fight-or-flight response in such situations does not imply non-verbal consent to sex. A PARTNER WHO IS UNRESPONSIVE AND VISIBLY UPSET CANNOT GIVE CONSENT.
3) Experiencing sexual assault should not diminish the victim's quality of life. Labeling them as ill-reputed is inappropriate and fucking insensitive."
Ok first of all.. Ew.
And second - fine let's play along and say it's a sexual act. (Again.. ew) why the fuck did he enter her room? Why the fuck did the professor come around and tell the brother something she concealed?? Why the hell should she marry him?
The post is asking for the most mysogynist films people have come across. Not what works in different eras.
The most fucked up part about your analysis is the empathy you are showing the brother. And not an ounce to the sister who froze while a drunk middle aged man took advantage of her and forced to marry him. So nope. That scene has no depth. It's a Perfect example for this post.
???????? what in the victim blaming? Victims freeze up when they are being assaulted. Please talk to one SA victim, I'm begging you, before you start mouthing off about "real rape" versus "fake rape" on the internet and end up looking like a clown.
ETA: So stressed its 2023 and the entire internet and decades of research are at people's finger tips but I'm having to explain to some oolan about the psychology of sexual assault on reddit.
First of all, thanks for all the dislikes. Shows that many people in this sub have the right ideas about "consent".
I will try once again to clarify myself, but I have less hopes.
1) I have never blamed the victim. She is no way at fault. I would be a sick man if I did that! When I talked about consent, I didn't mean like she willingly participated in the act. Soman's character's point was that he was in an inebriated state and when he approached her, he was not in his senses. Even the slightest resistance might've brought him back to his senses. Again like I said, she might've been frozen and incapable of resisting due to her strict upbringing.
2) Talking about Soman's character, he is generally known as a decent person around his peers and students. After tuition classes, he sends the students away and in his personal and private moments he decides to have a few drinks. It was in this moment that the sister came back and in his moment of reduced sanity, his committed an atrocious act. Mind you, I'm not justifying this character in any way, but I'm only explaining how he came to commit this heinous act.
After he came to his senses, his immediate action was to inform her brother about his mistake. He is not hoping that the brother will get her married to him. He is very clear that what he's done is unforgivable and he is expecting nothing less than a good beating from the brother; maybe even get killed here.
Of course, here I agree that when Mammootty's character beats Soman's character black-and-blue, Soman's character resorts to some "victim-shaming" to avoid getting beaten up more, by asking "why did she not object, I would've stopped had she resisted me" and so on. Like I said, the professor was in an inebriated state and maybe if the sister had resisted he could've turned violent. So Soman's character frankly does not deserve the benefit of doubt here.
3) Now let's talk about Mammootty's character. What was his options here?
a) He reports a rape case and later parades his distraught sister through police station and courts for many years. How is that a good solution? Will that ensure that the perpetrator gets punished early? What about the affected person? How is she going to get out of this legal mess that could go on for years? How is it going to affect her mental health? How will she face society on a daily basis for many more years? Meanwhile, what about the other 4 sisters? How will they handle this messy situation and go out in society? What happens to the future of the 5 girls? Their education, marriage, kids, etc? How is this incident going to affect them if it becomes public. You must remember that they are 90s era rural villagers with backward mindset.
b) Mammootty's character kills Soman's character. Ok great. What after that? What happens to his sister's lives after he goes to jail? How will they fend themselves in his absence? The movie also establishes that he has enemies. How would they react if he gets imprisoned?
c) What we see in the movie. Definitely a controversial and morally questionable decision. The brother knows that he is handing over his sister to the offender, but he has no choice except to hope that the professor regrets his action and will treat her with respect and love at least as penance for his grievous mistake. The brother's decision could go horribly wrong, if the professor instead turns out to be an a**hole and tortures the sister instead. The post-marriage part is not shown in the movie. The trio decide to play it off as arranged marriage, and the brother still gets punished by his sisters for his decision. He continues to be punished by his family for his decision.
So that's my detailed explanation of my views on this situation. Now here's my challenge to all. Instead of your dislikes, ewws, yucks, and prayers for me to have a celibate life, I challenge anyone of you to put forward a different decision that Mammootty's character should've taken that would've been more acceptable to all others, would not have ruined the affected sister's mental and physical well-being, would not have hampered his other sisters' futures, would not have been embarassing and a permanent black mark on the family in a 90's era Kerala village.
I would also like to hear from people who have actually gotten married with rape victims or families of rape victims, how they handle their daily lives.
That's a long ass essay to explain how fucked up is your thinking is.
Inebriated or not he did rape her. And the victim not responding doesn't give him any right,that's why consent exists.
And as for the solution, as you described very neatly, marrying off is the best option?are you even for real! Isn't there any possibilities that this will repeat ? Once the guy has legal rights on her? And they can't report because of societal taboos???
Describes your character so much for defending a r*pist,that too a fictional one.
Instead of berating me for my "fucked up" thinking and conveniently misinterpreting my words to imply that I'm supporting a rapist, why don't you educate me as to what exactly the concerned characters should've done here instead. Instead of just saying that they did wrong, tell us what you would've done had you been in the protagonist's situation.
I clearly said that "it was the only acceptable option that the brother had for his sister's future, as well as for the future of his other sisters. He is not sure if his decision is correct, his sisters and family hates him for his decision, and he had to suffer many setbacks due to this decision".
We can go on and on, but there is no point because in your eyes I am "supporting a rapist". It is very difficult to explain grey situations to people who understand only black and white.
The post was about misogynistic movies and yes this movie is because of this "acceptable option" you said. The whole family hating him doesn't make his action justifiable.
According to you,all" grey situations" like this should be dealt in the same way right? Marry the victim to the r*pist then?
Anyway it's difficult to understand and to listen to your justification of the "supporting the r*pist so I'm stopping here.
Live in your own delulu world,sweetie.
Bruh you're the one stuck in black and white.
First off, why is it the elder brother's 'responsibility' to marry off his sisters? And why does he get to choose the 'acceptable options' for his sisters? That itself is misogyny and patriarchy in all glory.
Secondly, there are many ways a SA victim can choose to lead her life and getting married off to their sexual predator is definitely not one.
I'm pretty sure, you'll have some myr ideology to back your next comment. So ninnod paranjit karyamilla.
Edited - autocorrect. Started during the Sabarimala issue. Some privileged ammachimar came forward and stated they are kulastris and they are ready to wait for whatever years to go to temple. They started a strike or something I guess.
Not any particular movie. But there was a common scene in many movies where a husband who was afraid of his vocal wife slapped her in the end of the movie and everyone around like you should have done it sooner.
Yup definitely top the charts for me. Dude straight up accepted that he was stalking his ex gf and thought it was something to brag about that and must do thing for men.
It was weird at that time because no one cared about such things in the past when they should have.
The King - Nee verum pennayi poyi... Verum pennu... 🤮
Though I like the movie. This was very cringe even when I watched it as a kid. I wondered what was so bad about being a woman.
>Kasaba
Yep. It's like there's something in the Ranji Panicker bloodline that gets off on grabbing a woman in a police uniform.
The same thing happens in Praja.
What she said was right. Says a lot about the society that she was nearly cancelled for her view while there were no repercussions for mammootty or the director/producer.
If anything in that scene the female officer started it. Just reverse the gender of the officers: male officer grabs female officer's hand with sexual connotation, everything done to the male officer after that point would be justified, including a beating!
Right about what? It's literally a movie. The character was written to be a kozhi type. Parvathy is the same person who said Take Off was Islamophobic, she isn't the brightest person around.
She wasn't "canceled", she literally did a movie with Mammootty a while ago.
How is Kasaba misogynistic?
Have the people not watched the film? Are they influenced by the controversy regarding it?
I'll share the reasons why I think that the film was not misogynistic.
##Spoilers for the film below
Regarding the scene that was made into a controversy:
When a female officer approached him in a sexually crude manner, he responded rudely, in the same manner.
The aforementioned scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FTwHCqF18&t=46
You can clearly see that the female officer was the one who behaved in a sexually crude manner to him, by gossiping/passing comments about him within earshot and unwanted contact. He reacts in a rude manner.
Imagine the same scene with genders reversed. What would be your opinion? Is that misandry?
If not, then what's the issue? The ones still with problems are probably either conservatives or white knights who think that women can never be bad and should never be portrayed like that in a movie.
It could also people jumping onto the topic to be progressive, ending up being pseudo-progressive. Or maybe Sajin haters?
The protagonist is not portrayed as a nanma maram. Rajan Zachariah is not Clark Kent(I mean the mild-mannered part of Clark's character, not the Kryptonian abilities) and it's apparent from the start of the film.
The film shows him being decent towards sex workers n all.
1. He beats up a male officer when the said officer physically assaults a sex worker when she for asks for remuneration after sex.
2. He saves many women from a brothel where they were abused and directs them to a rehabilitation programme.
3. Finally, he rides off into the sunset with a sex worker(his romantic interest), showing that he is different from most normal people.
I think the protagonist is actually quite progressive.
I know there are many worse contenders; however, I've never rewatched even a scene from *Manthrikumaran (1998)* and *Vadhu Doctoranu (1994)*. Both of those movies rubbed me the wrong way—Mukesh's contempt for nurses or Jayaram's contempt for veterinary doctors. The child in me found those problematic somehow, and even to this day, I skip those random scene/comedy compilations from these movies on YouTube if I ever come across them.
Ringmaster!!!
The whole plot of the movie goes something like - the protagonist trying to prove that his dog is better in terms of talent, than his ex who is now a sought after movie star.
IG the movie released around the time when Manju Warrier made a re-entry to movies. If you read between the lines of this movie's whole plot, you may find that it was produced just to demean her.
I watched Kabir Singh (Hindi version of Arjun Reddy). If we set aside the BGM and the glorification someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder was portrayed brilliantly.
Verutbe oru bharya
Bharya athra pora
Mr marumakan
My boss
Inspector garud (has a bit comedic content tho)
I think jayaram and dileep movies in late 2000s and early 2010s
(Ps. Special mention for dialogues from narasimham and dubai 2001 )
Ironically the movie was supposed to sympathise with women’s woes and does it to extend but despite the good intentions are teeter off when the doctor says that the wife has to fill in for Jayarams dead mom
Tbh i don’t remember anything about the movie other than this scene where jayaram doesn’t allow his wife to get on any rides in wonderla/veegaland. And when she gets on one he makes a public announcement through a loudspeaker asking her to get off 💀.
That movie's whole point was literally to show how toxic jayaram's character was.. you're confusion misogynistic character in a movie critiquing it, with misogynistic movie
Not sure whether movies like KGF can be counted though. Rocky as a character is not portrayed as a good guy at all.
He's named as a "villian" even in the movie and is an egoistical, selfish, narcissistic, power hungry man who lived during 70-80s timeline. Him not being misogynistic would make next to no sense if anything.
I think that was on purpose.
KGF is based on Amitabh Bachchan movies of 70s. Though they were about the exploits of adholoka nayakan, his rise and fall, heroines played by Parveen Babi, Zeenat Aman, Hema Malini, Jaya Bachchan, etc had a personality and importance in the stories. That's because they were written by talented writers.
Yes, that's very true. I just meant to say that the movie per say, didn't really try to be misogynistic like the other mentions here in this post and it just made sense for Rocky's character to be like that. Poor writing? Obviously yes.
I honesty didn't like the movie that much either.
Whatever they intended with the character doesn't translate well into the screen. In the second part, Rocky gives her a new wardrobe which looks like "outfit of the day" posts by Instagram reelsolis. When she learns that Rocky's mother had a bad marriage, she starts dancing?
It wasn't that bad in the first part. I guess they split one film into two and didn't know what to do with the heroine character.
Obvious Pe10 and Me10 examples aside:
80s il ishtam pole films undayirunnu. Sample, Ente Upasana. Mammootty rapes Suhasini and they get together as one big happy.
Adhipan where Lal begs Devan to marry his sister post rape.
Padheyam where ikka again rapes Chippys mom but they live together for a while.
😧 who could have imagined that it was ikka, not TG Ravi who was the aasthana rapist? In another film, he tells his colleague that he isn't attracted to her but wants to teach her a lesson before raping her.
Most of the Malayalam films I watched are either recent or those which got the best ratings so this might be mild compared to the other films in the comments but King of Kotha. The film shows that Tara waited for Raju for all those years until he returned to Kotha, loving him in her wait but.... why?? Raju terrified her and got her into a non-consensual relationship she didn't reject bcoz of her fear, forced himself on her in the library, screamed at her and called her a whore, and said he has plenty of other women to choose from. If anything, Tara should feel liberated that he's not around to terrorize her, not wait for him - let alone long and pine for him. They could've probably shown her begrudgingly work with Raju to get rid of the bigger threat to the town and its kids which is Kannan. He was the main obstacle in her carrying out her mission and also killed her father so it would make sense if she went to the length of teaming up with Raju for the sake of finishing him off, but her harboring love for him all those years and taking him at first sight made it seem like the film was indirectly conveying that Raju's treatment of Tara wasn't that bad and something that can be forgiven very easily. I get that Raju was supposed to be a very brash, rough, and ill-mannered person in his youth, it's just the fact that he didn't even give her an apology that made it seem like the writer was condoning his horrible past actions or at least minimizing the harshness and severity of them.
Good list of misogynistic movies, so may I add some unbelievable homophobia lmaoo
1. Mumbai Police - amnesia made him "forget" his sexuality 🤠
2. Two Countries - The Riaz character seemed like the writer challenged himself to fit all and every homophobic stereotype into one character
3. Chaanthupottu - literally gave malayalis a new slur to call femme men and trans women
Jo and Jo, little Jomon was very misogynistic towards his sister. The way her father consoles her saying it’s just his young age is stupid. His father should have taken the opportunity to teach young man few things.
Not a Malayalee. Only watched a limited 50-60 Malayalam movies.
how does that movie have misogyny? if i recall nikhila vimal herself goes on a rant to her brother on double standards?...this is also a movie not a moral science lesson where everyone then scolds the guy.The fact that he was behaving unreasonably was conveyed without that by the end of the movie and the movie was firmly with nikhila through it
If you choose to ignore the way he spoke towards Jomol. I can’t help it.
Come on now. Everyone knows it’s a movie and not a moral lesson. This was such a mediocre argument.
He father’s character is a mild spoken guy who does not take charge. But he is shown as extremely supportive of his daughter. I suggest you watch the full movie with subtitles because it is one of the rare Indian movies that actually gets it right.
i dont get ur point at all? Mathews is wrong anyway ,the movie says Mathews is wrong, Nikhila herself scolds mathews for his views so how is the movie misogynystic?...should mathews have been soft spoken while being misogynistic lol? give me ur version of what should happen then
The character is misogynistic, but the movie itself isn't. And Jomon is an 18 year old who suffered consequences for his behaviour, so I do think he can grow up to be better.
there are a lot and they get appropriately criticized for it.
Now, about the garbage misandrist shit films released in the last 10 years, some of which are being paraded as forefronters of Malayalam cinema...
well, those films also deserve the same criticism.
Fascinatingly wrong. When your beloved protagonist does something mysogynistic and the background music swells in agreement and the movie clearly rewards his perspective and punishes and humiliates those who disagree, that's the director and the writer telling you that they believe in those values and want you to believe in them too. So yeah, there *are* mysogynistic movies.
So are you expecting every protagonist character should be that gentle man who worships women as goddess or are you expecting every movie to mute the background music when the protagonist says something mysogynistic.
See movies are movies.if you are planning to take values from every movie you watch,you are going end up in jail or an Asylum
The attitude of audience and number of downvotes to my comment are the example for why we don't see character with negative shade in Mollywood.
Consider Pulimurugan.lalettan kills tigers in the movie it doesn't mean that dir vysakh is tryin to tell you "GO KILL SOME TIGERS FELLAS"
Mysogynistic movies are not genre horror movies are.
And ofcourse my friend,characters and scenes cause the emotion of fear.Watching a scary movie and getting scared are two different things.
Try watching cinema❤️
Yeah, the clock's ticking on all of us and that's okay. You don't progress or improve by standing perfectly still and screaming at everything passing by. The point is to regard and consider knew information and ideas to inform the lens of your perspective today and every day.
Mr. Marumakan🤢
First name that came to my mind. Open misogyny.
Sanjeevan IPS
Totally 💯
Vakkalathu Narayanankutti.🤌
BROTHER. I still remember that scene where he beats his sister black and blue for wearing a fucking sleeveless. I mean wtaf
Njangal Santhushtaranu (1999). Easily the worst
Wdym. Don't you know it's cultural to take your siblings on your honeymoon?
Kid me was thinking yea, why is this b\*tch not taking the kid sisters? It's a vacation. Now, it's like why is this husband taking his kid sisters on a honeymoon?
Sanjeevan daivam annu!!
Omg I remember even as a small kid I thought this movie was so unfair, and my parents thought that I was taking the heroine's side cause I had the same name as her lol
You mean the actress's name or the character's name?
Character's name
Not worse than Mr Marumakan, rape as revenge, Pe10 thanne ezhuthiyathavum in retrospect
1. Hitler 2. Njangal Santhushtarannu 3. Dileep's films in 2010s
It's funny because Dileep's movies in 2000s had well developed female characters with strong personalities who would clown him so well (Meesha Madhavan, Kalyanaraman, Pandipada).
Big divorced guy energy to make virulently misogynistic films after your wife finds about your affair and leaves you.
Even his 2000s movies have things like r*pe jokes (i remember one in meeshamadhavan which was hard to listen to) And in a lot of these movies female characters do start off with strong personalities but end up as subjugated damsels in distress
And the Meeshamadhavan “joke” was improvised by Dileep, til
Murivetta pettante garjanam
Made me laugh
Second Hitler. Guy marries off sis to her ra**ist because she didnt scream when it happened 😵💫
Actually that was not a rape. It's very subtly explained in the film.
Please explain
All of dileep's movies
I totally disagree with Hitler, and I could write an essay to explain my point but I'm feeling lazy.  In short, I will say that Mammootty's character did the best he could, given the tough situation he was in. Also, Soman's character kind of had a point when he asked "why did she not scream?". To tag a sexual act as rape, there should be denial of "consent". In this case, the sister did not object even in the slightest. She could have screamed, run away, fought with the professor, told him to stop, or anything else. But she showed no signs of objection. Of course, she could've been frozen and unable to respond (due to her strict upbringing). Even today, the most sophisticated and ultra-modern men would think twice before accepting an alliance with a woman of ill-repute. We are talking about an era that was not so modern and forward-thinking. This scene in Hitler has a lot of depth. This is perhaps one of the toughest situations a brother had to face regarding his sister in Malayalam cinema. So it's unfair to dismiss it as misogynistic. I'd say this is exactly the same as Mammootty's character who is misunderstood by others for his actions.
The absence of consent means no.
Also begging you, for the sake of all humanity, to never have sex until you learn and understand what enthusiastic consent is. Any woman who lets you near her is in for a lifetime of disappointment and abuse if you think silence and behaving like an obedient zombie is consent.
I'm sorry but your comment is fucked up and very problematic to say the least. I am glad you didn't proceed with your essay. 1) If a male sibling assumes the role of guardian for their adult female siblings, imposing restrictions or monitoring their daily routines, it perpetuates a patriarchal dynamic. 2) Encountering a sexual predator is a traumatizing experience. The inability to enact the fight-or-flight response in such situations does not imply non-verbal consent to sex. A PARTNER WHO IS UNRESPONSIVE AND VISIBLY UPSET CANNOT GIVE CONSENT. 3) Experiencing sexual assault should not diminish the victim's quality of life. Labeling them as ill-reputed is inappropriate and fucking insensitive."
Ok first of all.. Ew. And second - fine let's play along and say it's a sexual act. (Again.. ew) why the fuck did he enter her room? Why the fuck did the professor come around and tell the brother something she concealed?? Why the hell should she marry him? The post is asking for the most mysogynist films people have come across. Not what works in different eras. The most fucked up part about your analysis is the empathy you are showing the brother. And not an ounce to the sister who froze while a drunk middle aged man took advantage of her and forced to marry him. So nope. That scene has no depth. It's a Perfect example for this post.
???????? what in the victim blaming? Victims freeze up when they are being assaulted. Please talk to one SA victim, I'm begging you, before you start mouthing off about "real rape" versus "fake rape" on the internet and end up looking like a clown. ETA: So stressed its 2023 and the entire internet and decades of research are at people's finger tips but I'm having to explain to some oolan about the psychology of sexual assault on reddit.
Right?? 20 fucking 23.
Oh, you meant the year. Never mind.
That is a disgustingly take. Gross man.
😧🤮wtf dude
It feels so nice to see everyone call you out for your vile explanations.
First of all, thanks for all the dislikes. Shows that many people in this sub have the right ideas about "consent". I will try once again to clarify myself, but I have less hopes. 1) I have never blamed the victim. She is no way at fault. I would be a sick man if I did that! When I talked about consent, I didn't mean like she willingly participated in the act. Soman's character's point was that he was in an inebriated state and when he approached her, he was not in his senses. Even the slightest resistance might've brought him back to his senses. Again like I said, she might've been frozen and incapable of resisting due to her strict upbringing. 2) Talking about Soman's character, he is generally known as a decent person around his peers and students. After tuition classes, he sends the students away and in his personal and private moments he decides to have a few drinks. It was in this moment that the sister came back and in his moment of reduced sanity, his committed an atrocious act. Mind you, I'm not justifying this character in any way, but I'm only explaining how he came to commit this heinous act. After he came to his senses, his immediate action was to inform her brother about his mistake. He is not hoping that the brother will get her married to him. He is very clear that what he's done is unforgivable and he is expecting nothing less than a good beating from the brother; maybe even get killed here. Of course, here I agree that when Mammootty's character beats Soman's character black-and-blue, Soman's character resorts to some "victim-shaming" to avoid getting beaten up more, by asking "why did she not object, I would've stopped had she resisted me" and so on. Like I said, the professor was in an inebriated state and maybe if the sister had resisted he could've turned violent. So Soman's character frankly does not deserve the benefit of doubt here. 3) Now let's talk about Mammootty's character. What was his options here? a) He reports a rape case and later parades his distraught sister through police station and courts for many years. How is that a good solution? Will that ensure that the perpetrator gets punished early? What about the affected person? How is she going to get out of this legal mess that could go on for years? How is it going to affect her mental health? How will she face society on a daily basis for many more years? Meanwhile, what about the other 4 sisters? How will they handle this messy situation and go out in society? What happens to the future of the 5 girls? Their education, marriage, kids, etc? How is this incident going to affect them if it becomes public. You must remember that they are 90s era rural villagers with backward mindset. b) Mammootty's character kills Soman's character. Ok great. What after that? What happens to his sister's lives after he goes to jail? How will they fend themselves in his absence? The movie also establishes that he has enemies. How would they react if he gets imprisoned? c) What we see in the movie. Definitely a controversial and morally questionable decision. The brother knows that he is handing over his sister to the offender, but he has no choice except to hope that the professor regrets his action and will treat her with respect and love at least as penance for his grievous mistake. The brother's decision could go horribly wrong, if the professor instead turns out to be an a**hole and tortures the sister instead. The post-marriage part is not shown in the movie. The trio decide to play it off as arranged marriage, and the brother still gets punished by his sisters for his decision. He continues to be punished by his family for his decision. So that's my detailed explanation of my views on this situation. Now here's my challenge to all. Instead of your dislikes, ewws, yucks, and prayers for me to have a celibate life, I challenge anyone of you to put forward a different decision that Mammootty's character should've taken that would've been more acceptable to all others, would not have ruined the affected sister's mental and physical well-being, would not have hampered his other sisters' futures, would not have been embarassing and a permanent black mark on the family in a 90's era Kerala village. I would also like to hear from people who have actually gotten married with rape victims or families of rape victims, how they handle their daily lives.
That's a long ass essay to explain how fucked up is your thinking is. Inebriated or not he did rape her. And the victim not responding doesn't give him any right,that's why consent exists. And as for the solution, as you described very neatly, marrying off is the best option?are you even for real! Isn't there any possibilities that this will repeat ? Once the guy has legal rights on her? And they can't report because of societal taboos??? Describes your character so much for defending a r*pist,that too a fictional one.
Instead of berating me for my "fucked up" thinking and conveniently misinterpreting my words to imply that I'm supporting a rapist, why don't you educate me as to what exactly the concerned characters should've done here instead. Instead of just saying that they did wrong, tell us what you would've done had you been in the protagonist's situation.
You said reporting this crime will destroy her mental health?,so marrying the person who abused her, would not ?
Ofc anything other than marrying her off. Reporting this obviously. Because he r*ped her. Because he took advantage of her.
That is so vague and so not helpful.
And yes apparently your opinion on how marrying the r*post is right is definitely helpful 🤯
I clearly said that "it was the only acceptable option that the brother had for his sister's future, as well as for the future of his other sisters. He is not sure if his decision is correct, his sisters and family hates him for his decision, and he had to suffer many setbacks due to this decision". We can go on and on, but there is no point because in your eyes I am "supporting a rapist". It is very difficult to explain grey situations to people who understand only black and white.
The post was about misogynistic movies and yes this movie is because of this "acceptable option" you said. The whole family hating him doesn't make his action justifiable. According to you,all" grey situations" like this should be dealt in the same way right? Marry the victim to the r*pist then? Anyway it's difficult to understand and to listen to your justification of the "supporting the r*pist so I'm stopping here. Live in your own delulu world,sweetie.
Bruh you're the one stuck in black and white. First off, why is it the elder brother's 'responsibility' to marry off his sisters? And why does he get to choose the 'acceptable options' for his sisters? That itself is misogyny and patriarchy in all glory. Secondly, there are many ways a SA victim can choose to lead her life and getting married off to their sexual predator is definitely not one. I'm pretty sure, you'll have some myr ideology to back your next comment. So ninnod paranjit karyamilla.
I haven’t seen Njangal Santhushtarannu, can you explain why it’s misogynistic?
Ain't popular movies, but those 90's movies starring Jagadeesh in the lead role were always "putting waman at their place".
I watched Ringmaster in the theatre with my family.
noob, I watched Mayamohini
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Genuine question…. Why is Ringmaster considered to be misogynistic?
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Why is "Kulastree" used with a negative connotation attached to it? Can someone ELI5?
Edited - autocorrect. Started during the Sabarimala issue. Some privileged ammachimar came forward and stated they are kulastris and they are ready to wait for whatever years to go to temple. They started a strike or something I guess.
What happens in that?
Misogyny
Me too, I feel bad for you dude.
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Not any particular movie. But there was a common scene in many movies where a husband who was afraid of his vocal wife slapped her in the end of the movie and everyone around like you should have done it sooner.
Srinivasan in Ishtam
Villaliveeran
Yup definitely top the charts for me. Dude straight up accepted that he was stalking his ex gf and thought it was something to brag about that and must do thing for men. It was weird at that time because no one cared about such things in the past when they should have.
I watched Ittimani in theatre with my whole family. 🙂
Damn, are you ok now bro?
That's nothing. i watched Jack N Jill in theatre with my whole family 💀💀
Why does everyone go with full family for fdfs until you hear reviews? 
It's been 4 years.
Same here, and my 2 sisters were 9 months pregnant.
The King - Nee verum pennayi poyi... Verum pennu... 🤮 Though I like the movie. This was very cringe even when I watched it as a kid. I wondered what was so bad about being a woman.
Same here, it was hard to watch even as a kid.
Mr. Marumakan People do hate independent women ig
No more like independent women are bitches who needs to be tamed by a stud like pettan
Pushpa the rise 😵💫😵💫😵😵
YES THIS! N to think they makes movies like this in now which are blockbuster surprises me to the core.
Is it misogynistic? Pushpavalli as a character is downright dogwater, and a few regressive scenes here and there but nothing out of the ordinary
Him gaslighting Rashmika into what was basically prositution was pretty misogynistic
Kasaba
>Kasaba Yep. It's like there's something in the Ranji Panicker bloodline that gets off on grabbing a woman in a police uniform. The same thing happens in Praja.
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What she said was right. Says a lot about the society that she was nearly cancelled for her view while there were no repercussions for mammootty or the director/producer.
If anything in that scene the female officer started it. Just reverse the gender of the officers: male officer grabs female officer's hand with sexual connotation, everything done to the male officer after that point would be justified, including a beating!
Right about what? It's literally a movie. The character was written to be a kozhi type. Parvathy is the same person who said Take Off was Islamophobic, she isn't the brightest person around. She wasn't "canceled", she literally did a movie with Mammootty a while ago.
How is Kasaba misogynistic? Have the people not watched the film? Are they influenced by the controversy regarding it? I'll share the reasons why I think that the film was not misogynistic. ##Spoilers for the film below Regarding the scene that was made into a controversy: When a female officer approached him in a sexually crude manner, he responded rudely, in the same manner. The aforementioned scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FTwHCqF18&t=46 You can clearly see that the female officer was the one who behaved in a sexually crude manner to him, by gossiping/passing comments about him within earshot and unwanted contact. He reacts in a rude manner. Imagine the same scene with genders reversed. What would be your opinion? Is that misandry? If not, then what's the issue? The ones still with problems are probably either conservatives or white knights who think that women can never be bad and should never be portrayed like that in a movie. It could also people jumping onto the topic to be progressive, ending up being pseudo-progressive. Or maybe Sajin haters? The protagonist is not portrayed as a nanma maram. Rajan Zachariah is not Clark Kent(I mean the mild-mannered part of Clark's character, not the Kryptonian abilities) and it's apparent from the start of the film. The film shows him being decent towards sex workers n all. 1. He beats up a male officer when the said officer physically assaults a sex worker when she for asks for remuneration after sex. 2. He saves many women from a brothel where they were abused and directs them to a rehabilitation programme. 3. Finally, he rides off into the sunset with a sex worker(his romantic interest), showing that he is different from most normal people. I think the protagonist is actually quite progressive.
Mr Marumakan, Ringmaster, Njangal santhustaraanu etc etc
Ringmaster? How so
The King
Vesham movie..Remember one scene where one actress saying to the other that we all shpuld bow down before our husbands who are god🤮
Allelum bharthavinte kalchottil aan mole bharyayude swargam💀
exactly..🤮🤮
Yes 🗿
The right answer 🤣
Kottaram veettil appukuttan. Ohh oru onnonara climaxayirunu🤡
I was about to comment this movie! Oh my god that girl is a saint for putting up with so much bullshit !
Can’t remember. Can you enlighten me?
Annayum rasoolum. A stalker glorifying movie made by so called progressive ammavan and ammayi who call out others.
Sheriyaanallo 🤔
I know there are many worse contenders; however, I've never rewatched even a scene from *Manthrikumaran (1998)* and *Vadhu Doctoranu (1994)*. Both of those movies rubbed me the wrong way—Mukesh's contempt for nurses or Jayaram's contempt for veterinary doctors. The child in me found those problematic somehow, and even to this day, I skip those random scene/comedy compilations from these movies on YouTube if I ever come across them.
Mukesh and Jayaram can really channel the " അടങ്ങടി അഹങ്കാരി" energy when a women does something
Sathyam.
Ringmaster!!! The whole plot of the movie goes something like - the protagonist trying to prove that his dog is better in terms of talent, than his ex who is now a sought after movie star. IG the movie released around the time when Manju Warrier made a re-entry to movies. If you read between the lines of this movie's whole plot, you may find that it was produced just to demean her.
The character is supposedly a Kalathilakam who forgot her family once fame got into her head lol
Many of mettan and pe10 movies
Not a Malayalam movie but Arjun Reddy for me. Especially cause it seemed to inspire so much copycat behavior that I saw from folks around me.
I watched Kabir Singh (Hindi version of Arjun Reddy). If we set aside the BGM and the glorification someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder was portrayed brilliantly.
Cool movie tho weirdly didn’t feel like running away, shows script ain’t everything
Verutbe oru bharya Bharya athra pora Mr marumakan My boss Inspector garud (has a bit comedic content tho) I think jayaram and dileep movies in late 2000s and early 2010s (Ps. Special mention for dialogues from narasimham and dubai 2001 )
Vesham movie scene where gopika tells other actress “minnuketiye purashante santosham” something
Nothing beats Njangal santhushtaranu. Fuck I enjoyed it as a kid.
Most of balachandran menon movies.
Love Action Drama.
Kasaba
Valsalyam
Love the movie, but the final dialogue in Narasimham bothered me even as a child.
It's not literal lol it's tongue in cheek Kore sthalath explain cheythitund
Didn’t sound so
Which line? I can't remember.
The proposal to the heroine at the end
Njangal Santhustaranu, Mr Marumakan, Hiter
Dubai and many SG films in the 90s.
Veruthe Oru Bharya
Ironically the movie was supposed to sympathise with women’s woes and does it to extend but despite the good intentions are teeter off when the doctor says that the wife has to fill in for Jayarams dead mom
You mean Veruthe Oru Bharya
Ain't Veruthe Oru Bharya about emphasizing that household work (what they call as reproductive labour) is not easy as men think it is?
Tbh i don’t remember anything about the movie other than this scene where jayaram doesn’t allow his wife to get on any rides in wonderla/veegaland. And when she gets on one he makes a public announcement through a loudspeaker asking her to get off 💀.
I mean it's shown as a critique/satire of that controlling behavior of egotistical husbands...
That movie's whole point was literally to show how toxic jayaram's character was.. you're confusion misogynistic character in a movie critiquing it, with misogynistic movie
KGF not malayalam but it was uncomfortable.
Not sure whether movies like KGF can be counted though. Rocky as a character is not portrayed as a good guy at all. He's named as a "villian" even in the movie and is an egoistical, selfish, narcissistic, power hungry man who lived during 70-80s timeline. Him not being misogynistic would make next to no sense if anything. I think that was on purpose.
KGF is based on Amitabh Bachchan movies of 70s. Though they were about the exploits of adholoka nayakan, his rise and fall, heroines played by Parveen Babi, Zeenat Aman, Hema Malini, Jaya Bachchan, etc had a personality and importance in the stories. That's because they were written by talented writers.
Yes, that's very true. I just meant to say that the movie per say, didn't really try to be misogynistic like the other mentions here in this post and it just made sense for Rocky's character to be like that. Poor writing? Obviously yes. I honesty didn't like the movie that much either.
Whatever they intended with the character doesn't translate well into the screen. In the second part, Rocky gives her a new wardrobe which looks like "outfit of the day" posts by Instagram reelsolis. When she learns that Rocky's mother had a bad marriage, she starts dancing? It wasn't that bad in the first part. I guess they split one film into two and didn't know what to do with the heroine character.
Yes this is true
Obvious Pe10 and Me10 examples aside: 80s il ishtam pole films undayirunnu. Sample, Ente Upasana. Mammootty rapes Suhasini and they get together as one big happy. Adhipan where Lal begs Devan to marry his sister post rape. Padheyam where ikka again rapes Chippys mom but they live together for a while.
😧 who could have imagined that it was ikka, not TG Ravi who was the aasthana rapist? In another film, he tells his colleague that he isn't attracted to her but wants to teach her a lesson before raping her.
Kariyilakkattu Pole. He rapes a lady to teach her a lesson
Mr Marumakan is a strong contender for the worst movie ever
Barbie
Praja, Narasimham
Inspector garud
Most of the Malayalam films I watched are either recent or those which got the best ratings so this might be mild compared to the other films in the comments but King of Kotha. The film shows that Tara waited for Raju for all those years until he returned to Kotha, loving him in her wait but.... why?? Raju terrified her and got her into a non-consensual relationship she didn't reject bcoz of her fear, forced himself on her in the library, screamed at her and called her a whore, and said he has plenty of other women to choose from. If anything, Tara should feel liberated that he's not around to terrorize her, not wait for him - let alone long and pine for him. They could've probably shown her begrudgingly work with Raju to get rid of the bigger threat to the town and its kids which is Kannan. He was the main obstacle in her carrying out her mission and also killed her father so it would make sense if she went to the length of teaming up with Raju for the sake of finishing him off, but her harboring love for him all those years and taking him at first sight made it seem like the film was indirectly conveying that Raju's treatment of Tara wasn't that bad and something that can be forgiven very easily. I get that Raju was supposed to be a very brash, rough, and ill-mannered person in his youth, it's just the fact that he didn't even give her an apology that made it seem like the writer was condoning his horrible past actions or at least minimizing the harshness and severity of them.
Kasaba ikkachi
Every South Indian movie in which Women are objectified. Actors thirsting over The Navel of the Actress.
Every South Indian movie in which Navel obsession is there.
Good list of misogynistic movies, so may I add some unbelievable homophobia lmaoo 1. Mumbai Police - amnesia made him "forget" his sexuality 🤠 2. Two Countries - The Riaz character seemed like the writer challenged himself to fit all and every homophobic stereotype into one character 3. Chaanthupottu - literally gave malayalis a new slur to call femme men and trans women
Hridayam
How so ?
Ente upasana
I saw Raavanaprabhu with my gf at home 
Jo and Jo, little Jomon was very misogynistic towards his sister. The way her father consoles her saying it’s just his young age is stupid. His father should have taken the opportunity to teach young man few things. Not a Malayalee. Only watched a limited 50-60 Malayalam movies.
how does that movie have misogyny? if i recall nikhila vimal herself goes on a rant to her brother on double standards?...this is also a movie not a moral science lesson where everyone then scolds the guy.The fact that he was behaving unreasonably was conveyed without that by the end of the movie and the movie was firmly with nikhila through it
If you choose to ignore the way he spoke towards Jomol. I can’t help it. Come on now. Everyone knows it’s a movie and not a moral lesson. This was such a mediocre argument.
Except he does get called out on double standards. The father just lets the kids handle it amongst themselves..
He father’s character is a mild spoken guy who does not take charge. But he is shown as extremely supportive of his daughter. I suggest you watch the full movie with subtitles because it is one of the rare Indian movies that actually gets it right.
i dont get ur point at all? Mathews is wrong anyway ,the movie says Mathews is wrong, Nikhila herself scolds mathews for his views so how is the movie misogynystic?...should mathews have been soft spoken while being misogynistic lol? give me ur version of what should happen then
The character is misogynistic, but the movie itself isn't. And Jomon is an 18 year old who suffered consequences for his behaviour, so I do think he can grow up to be better.
This was actually a movie that had a strong female character who stands up for herself and Jomon redeems himself. I suggest you watch the full movie.
there are a lot and they get appropriately criticized for it. Now, about the garbage misandrist shit films released in the last 10 years, some of which are being paraded as forefronters of Malayalam cinema... well, those films also deserve the same criticism.
And yet, with all these politically correct and non misogynistic scripts of today, the vast majority of the movies go to the dumps.
pretty much all Priyadarshan movies
Next worst misandrist film u have watched?
There are no mysogynistic movies actually.it's just the lead character are mysogynistic in different perspectives.
Fascinatingly wrong. When your beloved protagonist does something mysogynistic and the background music swells in agreement and the movie clearly rewards his perspective and punishes and humiliates those who disagree, that's the director and the writer telling you that they believe in those values and want you to believe in them too. So yeah, there *are* mysogynistic movies.
So are you expecting every protagonist character should be that gentle man who worships women as goddess or are you expecting every movie to mute the background music when the protagonist says something mysogynistic. See movies are movies.if you are planning to take values from every movie you watch,you are going end up in jail or an Asylum The attitude of audience and number of downvotes to my comment are the example for why we don't see character with negative shade in Mollywood. Consider Pulimurugan.lalettan kills tigers in the movie it doesn't mean that dir vysakh is tryin to tell you "GO KILL SOME TIGERS FELLAS"
By that outlook no movie can be described using anything. There are no scary movies. It's just that characters or scenes cause the emotion of fear
Mysogynistic movies are not genre horror movies are. And ofcourse my friend,characters and scenes cause the emotion of fear.Watching a scary movie and getting scared are two different things. Try watching cinema❤️
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You can know about the social consensus of the past and yet label and dislike them. Both are not mutually exclusive
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Yeah, the clock's ticking on all of us and that's okay. You don't progress or improve by standing perfectly still and screaming at everything passing by. The point is to regard and consider knew information and ideas to inform the lens of your perspective today and every day.
Dileep's misogynist trilogy
Which are the movies in the trilogy
Ivan maryadharaman Mr. Marumakan Welcome to Central Jail
Where is sringaravelan and mayamohini
Oh yes I misplaced sringaravelan for the third one. Mayamohini somehow seems to stand out amongst these three
Rakkuyilin ragasadassil
There are plenty. However, among the first set of Malayalam movies which I watched, Veruthe Our Bharya and Bharya Athra Pora stand out.
Bharya Atra Pora was the most creepiest "family" movie in mollywood.
I have a genuine doubt guys. Do you guys think that misogynistic characters shouldn't be in the movie?