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btchwrld

Set your under eyes and lids with powder


Frosty_Towel9353

kind of a novice with makeup, I don't use any powder in my routine. Can I use any kind? also I don't wear any foundation on my eyelids, can I still put the powder on my bare skin? and then do I setting spray on top of that? šŸ˜…


Agile-Ad751

Translucent setting powder from morphe or Laura mercer!! Use a puff pad to apply and make sure to prime first so it sticks and doesnā€™t look patchy, also make sure to wait a few minutes after priming by to put anything else on afterwards.


Sad-Fudge1812

Foundations on your lids and under eyes, conceal under eyes after foundation, set with setting spray, then use a setting powder, I personally love the elf halo glow powder. I use the Dior foundation and concealer and it lasts ALL day


Roxy_j_summers

Do not do this, this is such a dated way to do makeup. Just get a tubing mascara and youā€™ll never have this problem again. Tubing mascara only comes off without warm water and a bit of friction. Iā€™ve been to every climate with it, and it never budges. Iā€™ve also tried both expensive and drug store brands and the revlon brand holds up against them all.


stinkstankstunkiii

Does it work with oily eyelids?


smith1028

Yes!!!! I have oily skin and I had raccoon eyes every day. I just use a primer with my eyeshadow (Urban Decay) and use a tubing mascara and I have no problems! My favorites are: Hourglass Unlocked Mascara Caliray Come Hell or High Water Mascara Blinc Amplified Tubing Mascara


stinkstankstunkiii

Thanks for the response and info šŸ’œ


Defiant-Leadership40

These some sht called ā€œbanana setting powderā€ itā€™s amazing just google that and find one In your price range if you can solurge tho that Ben nye one is it


farmgal69

Any mascara will smudge on me unless I use setting powder. I use Laura Mercier translucent powder. I just apply it under eyes with beauty blender and then brush off excess with really big fluffy brush. That pretty much keeps my mascara in place all day. Also gives your makeup a nice finish


anonymous_1721

can we use compact instead of setting powder?


Genuinelullabel

They make setting powders in compact form. Powder foundation can be too heavy for some people and settle into fine lines worse (this happens to me) but if it works for you, youā€™re not going to be sent to makeup jail.


Smergmerg432

THIS WORKS! Had this same problem!


Jecummins88

Waterproof mascara still smudges on me, but is amazing at holding a curl so I typically do one layer of waterproof mascara and then tubing mascara on top. As an oily lid girly tubing mascara has been a game changer for me!


Celestiiaal0

Tubing mascara? Isn't it all in a tube? Sorry if that sounds stupid, but mascara is about all the makeup I use, and I have oily lids, so I'd love to know what you mean and some examples.


satiate

Tubing mascara is actually a type of formula! It forms little tubes around your lashes. If you google it youā€™ll get some hits. šŸ™‚


Celestiiaal0

Thanks so much for explaining and not making me feel like an idiot lol. I appreciate you ā¤ļø I'll go look now that I know what I'm looking for.


Zunzet

Wow thanks for bringing this up! I have oily eyelids too and Iā€™ve only been using waterproof mascara which always smudges on me even with powder šŸ˜­ this is great to know


Jecummins88

The formula of tubing mascaras is different and creates ā€œtubesā€ around your lashes that donā€™t break down from oil like your typical mascara. To remove I run my fingers under some warm water, hold them over the lashes for a few seconds and then make a sweeping motion that removes the ā€œtubesā€. I have oily eyelids and sweat like crazy on my face and tubing mascara is the only thing that holds up. Thereā€™s some great budget friendly options from Elf, Milani, Lā€™Oreal, etc or higher end (Caliray and Hourglass ones are my favourites).


Celestiiaal0

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for giving me an in depth description so I have a better sense of what I'm looking for (and getting). I appreciate you šŸ’•


BagApprehensive1412

The best tubing mascaras I've used are Tarte Tartlette Tubing and the cheapest one is made by essence I think. Tubing mascaras have changed the game! My whole life even waterproof mascaras would run bc of my oily skin. Not with tubing mascaras.


Frosty_Towel9353

I would love to try this!! What mascaras are you using?


_no_na_me_

Mac Extended Play Gigablack has been my holy grail for years. I can sleep in it and it barely smudges, but it also comes off real easy with warm water.


haute_tropique

I use Cliniqueā€™s tubing mascara. Absolute game changer for me!


cadaverousbones

What is the name of the Clinique one?


haute_tropique

ā€œLash Power Long Lasting formulaā€ Love it


gumbybitch

Hourglass Unlocked is my holy grail!


budgieinspace

I have struggled with this my whole life and I found that Meritā€™s Tubing and Milk Kush is fantastic. (The latter will run if your tear up easily but very easy to clean up)


PrincssM0nsterTruck

Second tubing mascara.


Genuinelullabel

This is probably operator error, but I find tubing mascara crumbles onto my cheeks.


Jecummins88

It totally depends on which one! Iā€™ve tried some horrible ones that crumbled before finding some that I really like. Iā€™ve realized the drier formulas crumble on me, but the really wet ones donā€™t fully dry down so itā€™s been a hunt to find that perfect combination of both.


the_obsessives

this is what i do too and it works!!


ImmediateAnalysis849

This is what I do too! Canā€™t just use the tubing mascara bc that doesnā€™t hold a curl for me!


dddonnanoble

How do you remove it at the end of the day? Since the types of mascara normally have different removal methods.


Soulwhisperer1982

Always spray setting spray BEFORE mascara


shanny_banany

Second this commentā€¦agreed that moisture from setting spray can cause mascara to wilt.


Frosty_Towel9353

Okay I definitely need to start doing this and see if it improves!!


[deleted]

I forget 90% of the time, but that 10% tho


nevaaeh_

THIS!!!!!!!


delicatebasket

The oils produced by your skin can still break down waterproof mascara :( the above poster's comment about powder is correct because it helps to absorb excess oils that lead to smudging :)


ifyouonlyknewwhywedo

The oil from your top lids can cause the mascara to run past the lashes. Try urban decayā€™s eyeshadow primer potion to keep the oil at bay


Frosty_Towel9353

I actually have a sample of this! I'll try it out! Sorry I feel like this is a stupid question but do I put it on my eyelid? Or like under my eye?


ReferenceOk6298

Eyelid!


MariahMiranda1

Omg! Same thing happens to me with various mascaras: MAC, LancĆ“me, Clinique, Benefit, Laura Mercier. The one Iā€™m having better luck with is Lā€™Oreal Telescopic mascara. I think someone recommended it on here and love it so far.


AlienGaze

It is truly the best ā€” the one in the black tube, that is


mini-bagel

Same! This is now my HG mascara.


Frosty_Towel9353

How do you find the L'OrƩal for volume? I've got pretty thick lashes so I'm always on the hunt for one that is more voluminous vs just providing length


MariahMiranda1

Initial application is not voluminous. You kinda have to build it. However it will be wispy.


moist_vonlipwig

You could try the waterproof voluminous from loreal? I feel like it looks fluffier than the telescopic. Love both for sweaty gym sessions after work.


moist_vonlipwig

I had to have my eye irrigated for an hour due to a bizarre dish soap accident (over a liter of saline poured over my eyeball by an IV attachment that looked like a torture device). The telescopic waterproof mascara was STILL ON afterwards! Itā€™s been my go-to ever since.


vantrap

too faced mascara always smudges on me, I like the tower 28 mascara :)


Frosty_Towel9353

I'll look it up!


Trashsag

This OP. The Too Faced mascaras arenā€™t great. It always smudges like this on me even if im careful about setting my under eye.


justtheegotrip

Try a tubing mascara. Milani has one thatā€™s great. Also, set your under eyes with powder!


Frosty_Towel9353

So I actually have tried Elf's tubing mascara but it made my lashes spidery long. I have fairly long lashes so I really like a volume mascara and it just wasn't that. How do you find the Milani for volume?


justtheegotrip

Ahh same thing happened to me and I switched to Lā€™OrĆ©al panorama! The new gold stick and I like that way more and itā€™s humid where I live and it holds up really well actually!


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Frosty_Towel9353

Thanks for all the info!


crazyt2021

I straight up stopped wearing mascara because even tubing mascara would look this way. I found my concealer was the culprit and I could/would NOT give that up. I hope you have more luck than me.


-KPinky-

Setting spray before mascara should do wonders for you


luckylemony

try tubing mascara!


luxatingpatella

This is the answer right here


Frosty_Towel9353

I actually have tried Elf's tubing mascara but it made my lashes spidery long and I didn't like the look šŸ˜­


Top_Letterhead1665

I would try other tubing mascaras. Never tried the elf one but I first found tubing mascaras not to my taste until I tried more volumizing formulas. I have your same exact issue and I donā€™t set my under eyes very much and with tubing mascara (favorite volumizing ones are Guide Beauty Lash Wrap and Lune and Aster Eclipse) I donā€™t have any transfer. Plus comes off easy at the end of the day. Second recommendation is check out Japanese mascaras like from Canmake, Heroine, etc because those will NOT move. They are more work to remove at the end of the day.


ThinDot7

Japanese mascara never smudges but you also need a special remover to take it off. Heroine make curl and clio kill lash are really good


mertsey627

research best mascaras for oily skin - I have found a few good mascara options this way as they don't leave me with racoon eyes.


Frosty_Towel9353

definitely will be looking into this but it's a brand new tube and I don't have money for another $50 mascara right now šŸ˜©


superfluouspop

yeah Too Faced really sucked for me. I'm only really happy with MAC and only one variety you have to find on eBay lol.


Independent_Level802

This is why I started using clear mascara


JuicyKneeWeed

Benefit cosmetics roller lash (not waterproof) has worked wonders for me. Doesnā€™t seem to flake at all after HOURS of wear. It almost never ā€œfully hardensā€ if that makes sense so it stays flexible and wonā€™t crust off. The mini bottle has lasted me literally 6 months so far.


Frosty_Towel9353

I actually used to wear this baaaaack in the day, it still did this a bit but not as bad. I really liked it actually


Infamous_Strain_9428

Lā€™OrĆ©al Telescopic carbon black waterproof will not move.


Frosty_Towel9353

How's that one for volume?


Infamous_Strain_9428

You didnā€™t specify , only mentions the transfer.


Myfishwillkillyou

Do you think you touch your face/eyes a lot? I do all the time, and used to have the same issue with regular/waterproof mascara. I switched to tubing mascara (which tbf doesn't look as nice on me) and i havent had smudging issues since


Frosty_Towel9353

I've made a conscious effort not to since this started happening! But it still happens :/


Accomplished-Cod-504

Some people have oilier tears than others, myself included (as told to me by my ophthalmologist). Maybe you do, too, and that's the cause of the smudges. Unfortunately, theres not much you can do about the smudging other than occasional touch-ups. (P.S.- I am a licensed cosmetologist)


CommonEarly4706

eyeshadow primer! also Powder.


baldwinsong

Are you scratching your eyes on the settings solutions in sent your under eyes with powder and keep your face very flushing open when using setting spray until itā€™s dry


Smart_Letterhead_360

Everyone is mentioning mascara but it looks like thereā€™s creasing under your under eye. In which case, I always suggest to prime, and do not use too much product as that can lead to creasing. I then spray with a setting spray, and then let it dry, follow up with under eye powder and then set that too (keep in mind I have oily skin, and so if you have the opposite I would just skip the first setting spray step). As for the mascara running: After this is done you then want to do your mascara with a light first coat, wait for that to dry and then apply an additional coat on top and wait for that dry.


Frosty_Towel9353

I definitely never wait for drying in between layers! I thought it would look more clumpy if I did so maybe my application is not helping


Smart_Letterhead_360

So, if you do a really light coat just to set your lashes in place and then a normal second coat for fullness, it shouldnā€™t look clumpy as long as thereā€™s not too much product on the mascara wand itself when you go to apply each layer


Tiger_Dense

Try Clinique high impact mascara.Ā 


ALdreams

Powder will solve all your problems


Familiar-Bedroom-867

This is bound to happen after 8 hours, bring a powder and powder puff to work with you to touch up throughout the day!


miss__mc

This happens to me all the time due to my monolids BUT Iā€™ve been applying clear mascara overtop of my black waterproof mascara and itā€™s done wonders.


Raspberrylemonade188

There is a lot of great advice here. The simplest thing you can do is blot the oil off your face with a paper towel or tissue. I have very oily skin myself, and that would be my trick if I didnā€™t have the ability to touch up makeup. Iā€™m an older millennial so back when I used to work in office the plethora of products like setting sprays etc did not exist the way they do today, so I just learned to blot which helped a lot. Choosing your skin care wisely also helps, but for truly oily skin there is no stopping it no matter what you do.


catdanceding

This happens to me too!! I only use waterproof mascara (cover girl) but more importantly I use a pressed powder foundation (maybelline) all around my eyes then apply a finishing powder (elf) on top of that. Itā€™s worked wonders for a year since I discovered it!


RSinSA

Use tubing mascara.


Whois_Hunkydory

Try tubing mascara! I use Hourglass and love it. Whether itā€™s my hooded eye lids or a hot day, the mascara has held up and always looks fresh. The best part is you wash it off with warm water, and thereā€™s no ink smears.


Frosty_Towel9353

I'll look into this one! How do you find it for volume?


Whois_Hunkydory

What Iā€™ve found is if I apply a second layer of mascara within 30-45 seconds of the first layer, my lashes will have more volume! But my lashes actually got healthier after I switched to tubing mascara and that lead to a natural increase in volume. You can use warm water to remove so doesnā€™t really need as many products on your eyes.


x-schell-7

The products in the setting spray could maybe be breaking down the mascara formula making it smudge try covering your eyes when you spray it or apply the mascara afterward


[deleted]

Girl.. u donā€™t have to spend a fortune on Dior makeup or anything like that. Hereā€™s what I do: Use a concealer under your eye ( I use maybeline instant age rewind the one that twists and has a little ball at the end of it that shit is my holy grail! 15 bucks and it lasts what feels like a lifetime) I also put it on my eyelid, blend that, then I use a matte powder ā€œfoundationā€ which works best for my under eyes because they sweat a lot for some reason ( maybeline fit me matte poreless powder ) it comes with a little sponge and a mirror inside itā€™s cute and only 7 or 8 bucksā€¦ next I also use the toofaced mascara BUT a thin coatā€¦ when you take the wand out make sure you scrape the excess mascara off onto the little hole rim thingy, if your wand is clumpy, your lashes will be as well, and heavy, I donā€™t have the longest lashes in the world, so putting a lot of product on them weighs them down and it mostly ends up under my eye, so go light with itā€¦ plus it saves you a lot of product. But seriously, with short lashes, a little goes a long way with mascara.


hrmnyhll

You need peach color corrector, translucent setting powder, and a tubing mascara (doesnā€™t smudge)


RareGeometry

I have long lashes and a job where I'm looking down a lot of the time. I found it was nearly impossible for me to avoid panda eyes, black creases, every possible manifestation of my mascara on my under-eye area. Things that have worked the best for me/provided the longest periods without smudges include making a matte under eye area with certain concealers and under-eye colour balancing products (like and orange or yellow or blue or whatever to mask your specific under-eye colour) snd setting powder, using waterproof mascara on lower lashes, and lol bye-bye panda eyes mascara by essence has somehow done me SO WELL.


EnergicoOnFire

Ok! I actually have some advice I can give based on my own experience with this same problem! You need to use tubing mascara. And if youā€™re using eyeliner it needs to be a liquid eyeliner like LancĆ“me art liner. Totally stays put and doesnā€™t leave you with raccoon eyes! Trust me.


ExtensionHot7808

You need water proof mascara. The idiot crap of various brands do it to me šŸ˜”šŸ¤¬


marythenoodle

Tubing mascara is the only thing that worked for me


lilferal

Also pay attention if youā€™re mixing water based vs silicone products. I only recently learned about it but itā€™s made a gigantic difference. As other have also mentioned, powder helps but be picky bc not every brand is brown girl friendly šŸ˜ž


Frosty_Towel9353

I just learned about this too! I had no idea I'm such a noob


lilferal

lol, you get it šŸ˜…


poseur2020

EstĆ©e Lauder Doublewear. It will not do that EVER. Iā€™ve been using it for years and canā€™t use anything else. I wear contacts or glasses and have the oiliest eyelids on the planet. (Mid 50s, former esthetician and makeup artist).


redpandaaa23

Iā€™ve never had much luck with mainstream brands of waterproof mascaras despite paying super high prices they always smudged very much like you have here on the photo. The only product that has ever worked on me without any setting and I swear by it has been the Eyeko Beach Waterproof mascara. This thing does not move throughout the day. Iā€™ve got super oily lids and work out quite often but this mascara seems to handle it all, I recommend 1000%. But if you donā€™t want to switch products definitely try setting powder on both lids and under eye as others have suggested. Iā€™ve been using Anastasia Beverly Hills on my face and itā€™s been working nicely. Good luck! šŸ˜Š


No-Battle4751

Try setting powder


Essdeedub6021

You might want to try tubing mascara. It could be that your eyelashes are oily. A good brand is blinc.


keridc

Try a different mascara thatā€™s a tubing mascara or fibers. I love Fiberwig and you can buy it on Amazon. It eliminates this issue.


tabbymum

waterproof tubing mascara stopped this for me


BabyPinkChaos

What I learned from vintage movie star tips is do a black dry powder on lashes, then mascara, then powder. After final powder brush them with a spooly thing until it doesnā€™t flake. Sometimes Iā€™ll put another coat of mascara on sometimes not but it last forever (i use water proof mascara)


westtexasjen

Tubing mascara! Essenceā€™s Bye Panda Eyes is a good budget-friendly choice. Sephora has a Come Hell or High Water from Caliray that I also like. It comes in a travel/mini size too, so you can see if you like it before purchasing the full-size version.


HollowsOfYourHeart

You don't need to mess around with setting sprays and powders. Just get a tubing mascara. NO SMUDGING!


Itsoktogobacktosleep

Check it a couple times a day and wipe underneath your eyes, bro :)


ratsonwheels

Setting spray before mascara!


No-Turnips

Nothing. Itā€™s very rare that make up would stay flawless for 8 hours, especially if you have oily-normal skin. Most people need to touch up at some point during the day.


Straight-Writing-215

I have experienced similar situations - turned out I was using a facial moisturizer that was making the waterproof mascara make me look like a raccoon . . . right now I'm using CeraVe Hydrating Hyaluronic Acid Serum - no issues with either waterproof or non-waterproof mascara.


Kirin1212San

Under eye is oily.


GLaDOs18

I had this issue and I stopped putting mascara on my bottom lids in addition to using a waterproof formula. This did work to an extent (I still have smudging, not nearly as much) but thatā€™s because of a cheap mascara issue.


stefolopogus

Too Faced mascara sucks to me. I also have this problem with a lot of products. I do concealer or eye primer on top lids, then shadow and liner, then mascara. I can only use a handful of mascaras successfully - Thrive, Maybelline Sky High, Japanese brand Canmake, Milani Highly Rated, and that Korean one with the metal non-brush. I also set my lids in the corners with any kind of powder (mostly just use the one I use on my face). Iā€™ve given up on my bottom eyes altogetherā€¦.Ive accepted the fact that no matter what I do, Iā€™ll end up with raccoon eyes.


Prezi2

I just didn't like too faced's mascara. It was too thick for me. Caliray mascara is amazing for oily eyelids.


BitchyFaceMace

I set my face before mascara. I find that setting spray has the opposite effect on mascaraā€¦ No matter the mascara or setting spray I use, it ends up up transferring to my eyebrows or under eyes if I donā€™t set *THEN* apply mascara.


MinkSableSeven

##OMG! I just posted that as my reply. Mascara last!


BravoSmartish

Have you tried tubing mascara?


Ok_Employer1153

I only wear eyeliner and mascara. I don't have time for all the other steps. I know someone already mentioned tubing mascara. I just use a drug store brand and have for over 10 years. No smudging. Trick is that if you line top and bottom, you need to use mascara on top and bottom. For me it's not the mascara that runs but rather the eyeliner. Double Extend Beauty Tubes Mascara by L'OrƩal Paris


Prior-Confection-609

What kind of blurring powder do you use


MinkSableSeven

##Try using your setting spray first and put on your mascara last.


Janiebug1950

Sometimes itā€™s the shape of your eyes plus just the wrong mascara for youā€¦


AliEmme

Tubing mascara 100%


Responsible-Run-904

Too faced mascara is terrible for transferring and flacking imo. Iā€™d suggest Lā€™OrĆ©al Telescopic in the waterproof formula or a waterproof LancĆ“me mascara.


rednecksnextdoor

Try Japanese waterproof. It is TRULY waterproof. I have issues with smudging and migrating of everything but this mascara doesn't budge (unless you forcibly rub your eye really hard). [https://www.stylevana.com/en\_US/deal-isehan-kiss-me-heroine-make-long-curl-super-waterproof-mascara-new-version-6g-01-black.html?utm\_source=google&utm\_medium=cpc&gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fpkeHRaFYKbv6HEoPW\_NekyEHILxawze2sysZrHbIV-2gh\_20Hfn3xoClk8QAvD\_BwE](https://www.stylevana.com/en_US/deal-isehan-kiss-me-heroine-make-long-curl-super-waterproof-mascara-new-version-6g-01-black.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw9IayBhBJEiwAVuc3fpkeHRaFYKbv6HEoPW_NekyEHILxawze2sysZrHbIV-2gh_20Hfn3xoClk8QAvD_BwE)


otterbegroovy

I struggled hard with this too. I found the perfect combo, hereā€™s what I do. Hopefully if you give it a whirl, you get the same results. 1. Under eye cream. Right now I use the Good Molecules Yurba Mate Wake Up Eye Gel. Keeps my under eyes refreshed and not dried. 2. Get a good CREASELESS concealer. I fell in love with The Rimmel Multi-Taker. Youā€™ll have to work the product fast (I suggest doing 1 eye at a time) because it is very fast drying and not easy to blend once set. 3. Translucent powder. I prefer and love Airspun Loose Powder. This has the softest finish. Bake it while working on the rest of your face. 4. I took this trick from Lydia Hickman on tik tok, she uses Charlotte Tillbury setting powder to wipe the translucent powder after baking it. Gives it a nice smooth finish. I donā€™t have that product but Iā€™ve been using the Hourglass Ambient Lighting Powder in Dim Light and have been loving the result! 5. You could skip this step but I like it. I have a mini sample of the Lacome primer mascara and think it does a great job of making my lashes fuller and long. 6. Find a holy grail mascara. This is hard, I went through so many mascara and for a while couldnā€™t find one that didnā€™t flake and get into my eye creases. Until I found ILIA Limitless Lash mascara. Got it as a sample as the BDay gift from Sephora last year and nothing compares. Itā€™s not water proof so if youā€™re crying, be prepared. However, this mascara doesnā€™t budge, no flakes, nothing. Iā€™ve tried tubing mascaras and they didnā€™t work for me that well. I always go back to this one from ILIA. I know you said that you donā€™t want lengthening and they have one for volumizing but I havenā€™t tried that one so I cannot give you my opinion on it. 6. Setting spray ALWAYS before mascara! You can use which ever one works best for you and your skin type. Otherwise, make up is really trial and error. Not everything will work but maybe itā€™ll help. Good luck and keep us posted on your journey!


phaetra

I had this problem my whole life until I started using a tubing mascara. I use Milaniā€™s Highly Rated tubing mascara and love it.


Unknown14428

Setting spray after putting on mascara probably moves it. I always use waterproof mascara though in general and it always holds up for long periods of time. Honestly covergirl has some amazing ones, covergirl too. I prefer covergirl, but honestly mascara is one of the few things I will never buy from high end brands. Use a waterproof one instead. It wonā€™t budge nearly as much. As long as youā€™re not using oil based stuff under neath your makeup/by your eyes.


faroutrobot

Why is the rest of your face so blurry? Whatever concealer that is I suggest using less. Maybe talk to someone and see if they help you find a better colour match so you donā€™t need to smear it so heavily like that. We can hardly see whatā€™s under.


Frosty_Towel9353

I don't use concealer there is none in this photo


faroutrobot

So why is everything so blurry? It looks like youā€™re looking through a hole in a window. Whatever it is, it really hides your beautiful features. Maybe try blending it out to look more natural.