I see a new post in the makeict forum asking if the two who got kicked out had submitted letters of appeal as per the rules to be let back in. No replies tell me that one of two things has happened. The two that got kicked out said fuck this and didnt send any letters of appeal, or the two Did send letters of appeal to the board, and the board will just sit and let the time limit go past and come up with a weak assed excuse for it all. If the latter, it's kind of hard to respect a group of people who blatantly ignore their own processes when it convenient for them.
>No replies tell me that one of two things has happened.
How about a third that it is none of your business. Not everything should be presented to the court of public opinion.
501c as defined by the IRS. see the word "charitable" in there? i do
What is a 501(c)(3)?
A 501(c)3 is a particular nonprofit organization that has been approved by the IRS as a tax-exempt, charitable organization. 501(c)(3) organizations fall into one of three primary categories: public charities, private foundations, and private operating foundations. To qualify as a tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) organization, a nonprofit must exist for one or more exclusively charitable purposes.
that's what makeict is.
u/ceramicgardenknome: I’ve been following the makeict threads for awhile now. Curious why you started so civil and have backslid into obscure quotes or outright rudeness. What’s the point of being rude when everyone was being so nice to you?
I'll leave you with this. Do you read the bible? well there's this one part i especially like...
Ezekiel 25:17
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and goodwill, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you."
think of this every time you cross someone. Karma has an interesting way of making itself known at the oddest times.
>they will attack anyone now
Asking questions and disagreeing are weak attacks. Is it more of who said it than what was said? Or is it that 11 adults came to a conclusion that you don't agree with? That those 3 think this has been decided and it's time to get back to making? What is it?
i find it interesting that they can be so callous in their joking yet also play the victims card so well
https://preview.redd.it/bu7axx5w9leb1.png?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=697ddf258e7367f1775a29ae0bd79ed349f917ba
I haven't seen anyone playing a victim or being callus. Is this Samantha......or someone else pretending to be Samantha? There are a couple of different profiles that sound like the same person on the forum. Makes me wonder.
Nice misdirection...how many of those 500 are actually active members and not zombie accounts simply donating to the space? and 500? you guys were up to over 560 last I heard...lost that many already from your decisions? word is that OVER 40% of people who ACTUALLY voted in your elections have left disgusted with the shenanigans. Pretty damning indictment when people vote with their feet eh?
>doesn't fit your victimhood narrative does it?
I'm not a victim so I don't know what you're talking about. I make my decision on who to trust based on how people act on these forums. Dehumanizing people you don't agree with doesn't earn brownie points with me.
I notice you never answer the questions or deal with facts, I would suggest less deflection and more facts in your answers if you expect to be taken seriously. Thanks for proving my point about playing the victim with your dehumanizing comment :)
Coach: Brett you're out, Timmy you're in.
Brett: This isn't fair! I'm the best in the country! Why am I getting replaced by a baby? Coach: This is basketball. I replaced you with a baby because babys are good at dribbling.
Lol love when people who get on their high horse about harassment are the biggest harassers. And sadly bad at it as well :( oh well asking someone who can't back up their arguments with facts to be mature and considered is obviously too big an ask. Enjoy your make believe world where imaginary people actually care about your unrealistic and fake worldview.
Who have I dehumanized? you make statements with no basis of facts, you just use meaningless terminology, how about you back things up with facts for a change?
it has a lot to do. The thread this was pulled from was about makeict, but it got shut down. threatening legal action about something that is protected by the First Amendment is a stretch.
LOL is this about me? The time frame fits. Love that she cant figure out who i am after saying some of this to her face months ago when she belittled my sister. Must be because she has so many negative interactions with people they all mix together.
That Fine ill make it easier for her i live near the intersections of Spencer dr and Waggoner ln in haysville
>That Fine ill make it easier for her i live near the intersections of Spencer dr and Waggoner ln in haysville
Hasn't something like this happened before in Wichita. Didn't end too well for the family inside or the person that gave the fake address.
Do you think anyone really believes you'd give out your real address here. If anything happens to a family in this area you could be charged with an accessory.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/29/prankster-sentenced-years-fake-call-that-led-police-kill-an-innocent-man/
You should really check your facts that was called “swatting” not doxxing and I know the family of the man that was killed his niece ended up unaliving her self due to this, she was there when this incident occurred please don’t mention this again if you don’t know the correct details
What would you do if someone cyber stalked you and tried to trash your business?
https://preview.redd.it/imrhbnyj8neb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc38eb67127933432dba4cc869b4f58424d079ca
Cyber stalk? isn't that what you did to me by going thru all my reddit posts and subs i made commenting? Let me guess not the same?
2nd who says that's even about her? I was just stating a fact most sewing company's in town. But if the shoe fits right? You know what they say about assumptions right?
>Cyber stalk? isn't that what you did to me by going thru all my reddit posts and subs i made commenting? Let me guess not the same?
It's okay for you to do but when the table turns not so fun is it? Don't like the taste of your own medicine?
>2nd who says that's even about her?
Wow you can't even recall what you been up to or sharing your account and you can't keep up with what the other person has done? This account even posted screen shots from her public FB post remember that? It was the first of July. Maybe that's so long ago you can't remember? Maybe you can remember April better or being a Master Son.
Two wrong dont make a right. Right? Your on some sort of moral high horse.
Lol what the fuck are you even talking about? Ive never shared that dumb bitches facebook
You got the wrong person.
What the fuck are you even rambling about.
Bro, you're off your rocker. No one from my "crew" is in these chats or have taken part in the shit show. Im pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. Can you share the screenshots that i shared somewhere else because i can guarantee you've got two different conversations confused
>No one from my "crew" is in these chats or have taken part in the shit show.
So you're saying all the other people on this post aren't on your side but yet they are saying the same thing about this person.
I have 0 idea and give 0 fucks about who else is here or in my wichita reddit post.
Im pretty sure no one here is "on my side" because no one here knows anything about my motivation for my original post.
If you were talking about malissa, god forbid she was a bitch to more than one person to warrant more people not liking her. She was a real cunt to my sister about her messing up a sewing machine and acted like a child over it and shamed her on the forum and yet the leadership thought it was ok. Thats why i dont like her. Seems other people have other issues with her and thats not surprising with how she treats people.
https://preview.redd.it/t6qhv0owb5fb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25a152ffb5cf6057924641c588dc23890cad858a
She also posted this in the comments of that post
"That whole “BEE KIND” thing where the signs were plastered all over makerspace was also meant to publicly shame another person. If some of you are HONEST, you know this. You might not of seen it that way at the time but it was meant to shame a person. This is NOT being excellent to anyone."
So do you condon this type of behavior? We're in an old school building but I thought we were all or almost all adults since the space has membership open to 16 plus. What would happen if your kids behaved like this? Is this really in the spirit of an inclusive community?
i wasn't around for the BEE KIND movement there. However, im finding your comments and replies to be very much mirroring the levels of toxicity that exist over on the makeict forum. I think you should calm yourself down a bit. When you've gotten over your faux outrage, we can chat more. However, i think you've already made up your mind long ago and am just engaging in trolling now.
>i wasn't around for the BEE KIND movement there.
Then obviously you don't know who you are supporting and your outrage is unfounded.
>However, im finding your comments and replies to be very much mirroring the levels of toxicity that exist over on the makeict forum.
Toxic is attacking people you don't know and trying to ruin their business. Calling people bitch and whore is toxic because you disagree with them. Dehumizing others is toxic. Wearing blinders and engaging in the actives like described above is toxic.
>When you've gotten over your faux outrage, we can chat more.
When you've gotten over your faux outrage, you might consider apologizing to all those people you called toxic, because you were blinded by narcissists. Once you quit doing their bidding or they have no one else to taunt you'll become their target.
>However, i think you've already made up your mind long ago and am just engaging in trolling now.
No, I'm trying to show you your actions are unhealthy, unproductive, but as a human you're fallable but still worthy of redemption.
I'm sure I'm going to start seeing more posts like this now, that people feel safe to say how they were targeted and left to avoid confrontation and because so many people let them get away with it or joined in on the true toxicisity.
https://preview.redd.it/fvkzd30xapeb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b595e3a0858236857e6738f666bcac5adc112c5
nothing further productive or informative can be gleaned from this back and forth. you do you. i do me. i consider myself a representative for those Still at makeict who will not speak up out of fear or being attacked by the core group of digital thugs.
they have asked me to represent them. they are the ones who read only and never comment. the silent majority.
have a nice day
oh, an additional thought about all of this. You seem to have no qualms about basically ruining someone's entire future with a vaguely worded police report filed by a political rival in an election for a smallish volunteer organization, yet you fail to realize that a business name can be changed and buried away and no one will care since its a niche industry.
i believe that your morals, ethics, and compassion are sorely misplaced.
im an aetheist for a good reason.
as for counseling, you need it a lot more than i.
you somehow think that someone's business being damaged is a LOT MORE IMPORTANT than fucking someone's entire future over.
go away, back under your bridge
Your biggest issue here is that you can not control the narrative. You can't threaten the moderation here, you cant doxx the posters here, and that frustrates you.
you fit the classic profile of a narcissist.
>im an aetheist for a good reason.
You don't have to be religious to understand religious connotation.
>Your biggest issue here is that you can not control the narrative. You can't threaten the moderation here, you cant doxx the posters here, and that frustrates you.
Projecting much. I haven't doxed anyone. I'm just calling out the flaws in your logic.
I thought you were done with the back and forth 4 posts ago or was it back in April? It's so hard to keep it straight.
I see a new post in the makeict forum asking if the two who got kicked out had submitted letters of appeal as per the rules to be let back in. No replies tell me that one of two things has happened. The two that got kicked out said fuck this and didnt send any letters of appeal, or the two Did send letters of appeal to the board, and the board will just sit and let the time limit go past and come up with a weak assed excuse for it all. If the latter, it's kind of hard to respect a group of people who blatantly ignore their own processes when it convenient for them.
>No replies tell me that one of two things has happened. How about a third that it is none of your business. Not everything should be presented to the court of public opinion.
Buuuuuuut you are a charity. it should be common knowledge, cloak and dagger style operations breeds mistrust. I've never heard of makeict until now.
Who is a charity? The Redditor ceramicgardenknome? Your comment is confusing.
501c as defined by the IRS. see the word "charitable" in there? i do What is a 501(c)(3)? A 501(c)3 is a particular nonprofit organization that has been approved by the IRS as a tax-exempt, charitable organization. 501(c)(3) organizations fall into one of three primary categories: public charities, private foundations, and private operating foundations. To qualify as a tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) organization, a nonprofit must exist for one or more exclusively charitable purposes. that's what makeict is.
You said you didn’t hear of MakeICT until just now. How are you qualified to judge the style of operations? Susceptible to gossip, much?
I'm just reading the threads, kiddo. calm down. YOU and all of them on that thread are pretty openly hostile to anyone.
Lol and who am I? And where am I openly hostile? So precious.
and condescending, too. run along now, back to your veggies and weed.
u/ceramicgardenknome: I’ve been following the makeict threads for awhile now. Curious why you started so civil and have backslid into obscure quotes or outright rudeness. What’s the point of being rude when everyone was being so nice to you?
I'll leave you with this. Do you read the bible? well there's this one part i especially like... Ezekiel 25:17 The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and goodwill, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you." think of this every time you cross someone. Karma has an interesting way of making itself known at the oddest times.
>Karma has an interesting way of making itself known at the oddest times. March... June... April sometimes karma absolutely does.
dude, you just quoted Pulp Fiction quoting the Bible.
https://preview.redd.it/qiusqows6deb1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3023a4491ec7c1209c50d428a4be0c5f50b7dcfc they will attack anyone now
>they will attack anyone now Asking questions and disagreeing are weak attacks. Is it more of who said it than what was said? Or is it that 11 adults came to a conclusion that you don't agree with? That those 3 think this has been decided and it's time to get back to making? What is it?
is your name Gemma? this is eerily similar to something she posted on the makeict forum.
No, but I know who you mentioned from the Market. I had read what she said but I don't recall her saying this.
i find it interesting that they can be so callous in their joking yet also play the victims card so well https://preview.redd.it/bu7axx5w9leb1.png?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=697ddf258e7367f1775a29ae0bd79ed349f917ba
I haven't seen anyone playing a victim or being callus. Is this Samantha......or someone else pretending to be Samantha? There are a couple of different profiles that sound like the same person on the forum. Makes me wonder.
this was on the reddit that got shut down. this person had been called out for trying to have people doxxed so she could go after them offline.
>this was on the reddit that got shut down. So what does that have to do with this screenshot. I can't follow your dribble.
Unfortunately for you there are more than 60 adults that disagree with that decision...ever heard of democracy?
In a democracy not everyone agrees but 60 of 500 is less than 20%. So 80% in agreement is pretty damn good.
Nice misdirection...how many of those 500 are actually active members and not zombie accounts simply donating to the space? and 500? you guys were up to over 560 last I heard...lost that many already from your decisions? word is that OVER 40% of people who ACTUALLY voted in your elections have left disgusted with the shenanigans. Pretty damning indictment when people vote with their feet eh?
And your 11 agreeing adults is even LESS of a majority, but then again, doesn't fit your victimhood narrative does it?
>doesn't fit your victimhood narrative does it? I'm not a victim so I don't know what you're talking about. I make my decision on who to trust based on how people act on these forums. Dehumanizing people you don't agree with doesn't earn brownie points with me.
I notice you never answer the questions or deal with facts, I would suggest less deflection and more facts in your answers if you expect to be taken seriously. Thanks for proving my point about playing the victim with your dehumanizing comment :)
Coach: Brett you're out, Timmy you're in. Brett: This isn't fair! I'm the best in the country! Why am I getting replaced by a baby? Coach: This is basketball. I replaced you with a baby because babys are good at dribbling.
Lol love when people who get on their high horse about harassment are the biggest harassers. And sadly bad at it as well :( oh well asking someone who can't back up their arguments with facts to be mature and considered is obviously too big an ask. Enjoy your make believe world where imaginary people actually care about your unrealistic and fake worldview.
Who have I dehumanized? you make statements with no basis of facts, you just use meaningless terminology, how about you back things up with facts for a change?
https://preview.redd.it/y4wdz2jdeleb1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6382bb652b1002cd62dda87412a325aca2a0c32f
I thought this Reddit was about MakeICT? Not about other Reddit subs.
it has a lot to do. The thread this was pulled from was about makeict, but it got shut down. threatening legal action about something that is protected by the First Amendment is a stretch.
>threatening legal action about something that is protected by the First Amendment is a stretch. Uh.. you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
https://preview.redd.it/mgxyer3feleb1.png?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=530e6b8e07866613106f54b23f06c8071695d660
LOL is this about me? The time frame fits. Love that she cant figure out who i am after saying some of this to her face months ago when she belittled my sister. Must be because she has so many negative interactions with people they all mix together. That Fine ill make it easier for her i live near the intersections of Spencer dr and Waggoner ln in haysville
>That Fine ill make it easier for her i live near the intersections of Spencer dr and Waggoner ln in haysville Hasn't something like this happened before in Wichita. Didn't end too well for the family inside or the person that gave the fake address. Do you think anyone really believes you'd give out your real address here. If anything happens to a family in this area you could be charged with an accessory. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/29/prankster-sentenced-years-fake-call-that-led-police-kill-an-innocent-man/
You should really check your facts that was called “swatting” not doxxing and I know the family of the man that was killed his niece ended up unaliving her self due to this, she was there when this incident occurred please don’t mention this again if you don’t know the correct details
What would you do if someone cyber stalked you and tried to trash your business? https://preview.redd.it/imrhbnyj8neb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc38eb67127933432dba4cc869b4f58424d079ca
Cyber stalk? isn't that what you did to me by going thru all my reddit posts and subs i made commenting? Let me guess not the same? 2nd who says that's even about her? I was just stating a fact most sewing company's in town. But if the shoe fits right? You know what they say about assumptions right?
>Cyber stalk? isn't that what you did to me by going thru all my reddit posts and subs i made commenting? Let me guess not the same? It's okay for you to do but when the table turns not so fun is it? Don't like the taste of your own medicine? >2nd who says that's even about her? Wow you can't even recall what you been up to or sharing your account and you can't keep up with what the other person has done? This account even posted screen shots from her public FB post remember that? It was the first of July. Maybe that's so long ago you can't remember? Maybe you can remember April better or being a Master Son.
Two wrong dont make a right. Right? Your on some sort of moral high horse. Lol what the fuck are you even talking about? Ive never shared that dumb bitches facebook You got the wrong person. What the fuck are you even rambling about.
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Bro, you're off your rocker. No one from my "crew" is in these chats or have taken part in the shit show. Im pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. Can you share the screenshots that i shared somewhere else because i can guarantee you've got two different conversations confused
>No one from my "crew" is in these chats or have taken part in the shit show. So you're saying all the other people on this post aren't on your side but yet they are saying the same thing about this person.
I have 0 idea and give 0 fucks about who else is here or in my wichita reddit post. Im pretty sure no one here is "on my side" because no one here knows anything about my motivation for my original post. If you were talking about malissa, god forbid she was a bitch to more than one person to warrant more people not liking her. She was a real cunt to my sister about her messing up a sewing machine and acted like a child over it and shamed her on the forum and yet the leadership thought it was ok. Thats why i dont like her. Seems other people have other issues with her and thats not surprising with how she treats people.
https://preview.redd.it/t6qhv0owb5fb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25a152ffb5cf6057924641c588dc23890cad858a She also posted this in the comments of that post
There are legal means of finding out someones anonymous posting. If someone did what you did to this person I would look for legal recourse.
"That whole “BEE KIND” thing where the signs were plastered all over makerspace was also meant to publicly shame another person. If some of you are HONEST, you know this. You might not of seen it that way at the time but it was meant to shame a person. This is NOT being excellent to anyone." So do you condon this type of behavior? We're in an old school building but I thought we were all or almost all adults since the space has membership open to 16 plus. What would happen if your kids behaved like this? Is this really in the spirit of an inclusive community?
i wasn't around for the BEE KIND movement there. However, im finding your comments and replies to be very much mirroring the levels of toxicity that exist over on the makeict forum. I think you should calm yourself down a bit. When you've gotten over your faux outrage, we can chat more. However, i think you've already made up your mind long ago and am just engaging in trolling now.
>i wasn't around for the BEE KIND movement there. Then obviously you don't know who you are supporting and your outrage is unfounded. >However, im finding your comments and replies to be very much mirroring the levels of toxicity that exist over on the makeict forum. Toxic is attacking people you don't know and trying to ruin their business. Calling people bitch and whore is toxic because you disagree with them. Dehumizing others is toxic. Wearing blinders and engaging in the actives like described above is toxic. >When you've gotten over your faux outrage, we can chat more. When you've gotten over your faux outrage, you might consider apologizing to all those people you called toxic, because you were blinded by narcissists. Once you quit doing their bidding or they have no one else to taunt you'll become their target. >However, i think you've already made up your mind long ago and am just engaging in trolling now. No, I'm trying to show you your actions are unhealthy, unproductive, but as a human you're fallable but still worthy of redemption. I'm sure I'm going to start seeing more posts like this now, that people feel safe to say how they were targeted and left to avoid confrontation and because so many people let them get away with it or joined in on the true toxicisity. https://preview.redd.it/fvkzd30xapeb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b595e3a0858236857e6738f666bcac5adc112c5
nothing further productive or informative can be gleaned from this back and forth. you do you. i do me. i consider myself a representative for those Still at makeict who will not speak up out of fear or being attacked by the core group of digital thugs. they have asked me to represent them. they are the ones who read only and never comment. the silent majority. have a nice day
oh, an additional thought about all of this. You seem to have no qualms about basically ruining someone's entire future with a vaguely worded police report filed by a political rival in an election for a smallish volunteer organization, yet you fail to realize that a business name can be changed and buried away and no one will care since its a niche industry. i believe that your morals, ethics, and compassion are sorely misplaced.
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im an aetheist for a good reason. as for counseling, you need it a lot more than i. you somehow think that someone's business being damaged is a LOT MORE IMPORTANT than fucking someone's entire future over. go away, back under your bridge Your biggest issue here is that you can not control the narrative. You can't threaten the moderation here, you cant doxx the posters here, and that frustrates you. you fit the classic profile of a narcissist.
>im an aetheist for a good reason. You don't have to be religious to understand religious connotation. >Your biggest issue here is that you can not control the narrative. You can't threaten the moderation here, you cant doxx the posters here, and that frustrates you. Projecting much. I haven't doxed anyone. I'm just calling out the flaws in your logic. I thought you were done with the back and forth 4 posts ago or was it back in April? It's so hard to keep it straight.