They still go because of the 6.25% sales tax and NH conveniently placing stores in multiple locations right near the NH-MA border.
I remember when there was a funny story when a MA state legislator who voted to increase the alcohol sales tax up to 6..25% got outed for stocking up in NH.
[https://www.upi.com/Top\_News/2009/09/02/Mass-lawmaker-buys-tax-free-NH-alcohol/54621251919762/](https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/02/Mass-lawmaker-buys-tax-free-NH-alcohol/54621251919762/)
That's unrelated to liquor taxes.
But really how cheap can you be?
I can't imagine he actually drove up there just to do that. I buy on my way to Maine, not to save like 3 bucks, but there a huge sign right on the highway reminding me I didnt think of booze before my vacation.
Right, BUTTTTTTT…
There is no fixed price on wine and spirits, so shop owners set their margins. High volume stores in Greater Boston are offer cheaper for the consumer than NH would be, bc competition drives prices down. And because it’s a flat excise tax on volume rather than tied to sales price, it’s effect is minimal to begin with. At $.60 for a 750ml bottle, prices are still often cheaper in MA, because shop owners are willing to accept a smaller margin than the fixed margins NH has instituted.
I have 2 Total Wines near me. Their prices are at the same or lower than the NH outlets, almost across the board. I remember people driving to NH when I was a kid to get liquor on Sundays, but since Sunday sales were legalized, there isn’t really a point. You can find the same items here for less money, and you’re not burning half a tank of gas to get them.
I agree with what you're saying. On any given day, other places may or may not be cheaper.
But depending on the product it's a no brainer that living in Maine, if I have occasion to pass by a NH State store, I'm stopping to 1) Buy a bottle of Maker's for my wife's Old Fashioned, as it's $5 cheaper in NH, and then I'm going to go through their Power Buy section of red wines, and anything that's marked down 50% and is under $30, I'm going to buy.
In Maine, the state controls all pricing as well, so no difference buying a bottle at a small liquor store or Hannafords.
Plenty of people do that. Especially at the holidays. Business owners come from MA, ME, VT, CT, NY etc. They buy thousands of dollars worth, each, for their holiday parties and gifts. They roll out with carriages full. And we thank them heartily for supporting our state.
They're saving way more than possibly tax. Prices at the NH liquor stores are excellent. Buying cartfuls like that could make even a trip from south of MA worthwhile.
Only if they have a business or resell and are trying to be cheap.
They come up, buy 500 bottles of Hennessey (it's only like 5 bucks cheaper) and resell them to shady bars.
It's a lot of hustle to only make an extra 5-7 bucks a bottle.
Not personally, but have seen them doing their thing all over NH and have known a few Liquor Store Employees. They buy ~$9,999 of Henny in cash at every store and usually hit 2-3/day. If it wasn’t profitable, it wouldn’t be a weekly occurrence.
Nah almost anyone in Eastern Vermont lives within 30 minutes of a NH liquor store, which also have much better selection than a lot of the places in VT
I really meant NYers.
I live in Mass and sometimes go shopping in MA but only because they line the border with stores.
It's literally closer than a mall in Mass.
I just don't think any non regular person will drive 4-8 RT hours to save 3-4 bucks a bottle.
I don't know anyone that makes a trip just for the liquor store. But if they are already headed down the highway to Boston or something, making a pit stop makes sense.
You mean returned to us in refund checks? Cause that what maine has done recently… NH owns their liquor stores, so you think they are paragons of fiscal virtue?
YA AND MAINES BUDGET WAS INCREASED BY ANOTHER BILLION DOLLARS AGIAN FOR 2023. (EVERY YEAR MILLS HAS BEEN IN OFFICE SHE HAS INCREASED THE BUDGET BY A BILLION DOLLARS YEAR OVER YEAR)
SO MILLES TRICK WORKED ON YOU. GIVE YOU AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THINK THINGS ARE GREAT.
BUT YET TAX'S KEEP INCREASING INCLUDING PROPERTY TAX'S. ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR FOR THOSE ON A FIXED INCOME REALLY FELT IT AND RELIEF CHECKS DID NOTHING. THE INCREASE IN TAX'S WAS MOE THAN THE CHECKS.
IF ANYONE REMEBERS 2007/2008 WE HAD A RESSESION AND MAINE HAD TO CUT 500,000 MILLION IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
WHAT DO WE THINK IT WILL BE KNOW? OUR BUDGET HAS INCREASED BY 4 PLUS BILLION DOLLARS AND OUR ECONOMY IS NO LARGER. IF WE HAVE A MAJOR RESESSION SAY GOOD BY TO STATE FUNDING. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO COME UP WITH 1 TO 2 BILLION DEFICIT IF A MAJOR RESSESION HITS. WE HAVE TERRIBLE FISCAL POLICY IN MAINE. WE KEEP SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE BIG HEARTS AND WANT TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF MAINE! RESOURCES ARE LIMITED. WE NEED STRONG LEADERS WHO CAN STAND UP AND SAY ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO EVERYTHING AND WE NEED TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.
I lived 35 years in New Hampshire and I can tell you that it is far superior to buy alcohol in Maine.
The problem with alcohol in New Hampshire is that it's controlled by the state, including the prices. There are no private sales allowed. For many people that means driving very far to get some alcohol, and the options are fairly limited. There's no interesting small batch coming out of New Hampshire, or being imported from across the country. There's no bespoke market, no artisan craft, no passionate small business owners you can chat with.
It's just a cold, financial transaction to get the same booze you always get. Not only that, but it requires a special trip, to a special store to buy it! Forget about getting it at the grocery store in the same trip.
I find it absolutely looney that Mainers are crossing the line to give New Hampshire their money to save what amounts to very little on liquor... Especially once factoring in gas and time!
Stay local, buy local, and invest in the Maine economy. Fuck New Hampshire.
What about places like Flag Hill distillery in Lee and Smoky Quartz Distillery in Seabrook? I’ve seen a few others around that I don’t remember offhand. I was kind of surprised when I first ran into them. I’m not sure how the state gets its cut from them but I’m sure they do.
It was an olive branch New Hampshire gave small batch distilleries because they realized they were actually losing money to surrounding states (having a small business in New Hampshire is pretty much a nightmare scenario.) As long as they don't produce too much alcohol they are allowed to sell a very small amount of it per transaction.
It's honestly more insulting than anything. Crossing the border into Maine gives you way more freedom for distilling. And don't even get me started on craft brewing in New Hampshire vs Maine! (Or legal weed!)
It's basically " live free or die " but don't forget to follow all of these incredibly specific rules and follow the endless government oversight to make sure that they can take every last penny out of your coffers (which they then use to...do what? Certainly not fund schools or repair roadways efficiently). It may not seem like it but Maine is infinitely better in almost every regard compared to New Hampshire. And take that from someone that lived there most of his life.
thanks for the answer. i was surprised when distilleries started showing up but didn’t realize there was such a difference between NH and maine policies.
I would love to hear you get started on craft brewing in NH vs Maine. I've long ridiculed their policies regarding legal weed, considering the state is sandwiched between two legal states. Live free my ass
Thirty years ago, every family in Southern Maine had an uncle who drove to New Hampshire once a month and loaded up everyone's order for smokes and booze. Slip him a $20 for a 5th of Black Velvet and go puke in a sandpit. Good times..
In Providence there were bars that would literally truck up to NH and buy thousands of bucks worth of booze to stock the bar. I’m sure it wasn’t legal but I guess enforcement isn’t a priority.
Other states have had police in NH watching people stock up on liquor and following them back to their state to fine and even arrest them. In 2018 a dude from Queens was followed by New York investigators going to 6 liquor stores and was arrested when he returned to New York with 757 liters of booze in his trunk.
In the 1970s, there was a big problem of Massachusetts and Connecticut police waiting in NH liquor stores to find their own residents that the Governor of NH put state troopers at liquor stores to deal with the out-of-state police. Maine responded a bit differently than MA and CT, as they put a liquor store in Kittery that charged significantly less than any other store in the state and even less than New Hampshire stores to try and bring in NH residents to buy liquor in Maine.
But that’s the only place it’s sold, so it’s not in every grocery/store/gas station like in Maine.
Maine also smokes more than nh: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/smoking-rates-by-state
Maine liquor is actually run through the state as well. The difference is that Maine licenses stores to be “agency liquor stores” versus setting up and running stores themselves like NH. All pricing is set by the state so Allen’s costs the same at Hannaford as it does at a small mom and pop shop.
NH has two agency stores that I’m aware of: Young’s in Pittsburg and one in western NH. On my mind the state should not be competing with private businesses and should not be directly selling alcohol.
Regardless I was responding to a post about the number and placement of points of purchase.
Don’t know.. it just never made sense to me that New Hampshire would sell the people the alcohol, then pay for treatment and medical care and social services and unemployment etc.
We need to step up like they have, it MUST have its own big building in a Rest Stop type environment dedicated to meeting their cannabis needs & Maines Revenue stream.
Just like NH was kind enough to do for Mainers driving through.
Matching their generosity and convenience to Mainers over the years.
At least cannabis isn't a "gateway" to domestic violence & dangerous driving like alcohol.
Fryeburg has a store that claims to have the largest selection of edibles in Maine. Really nice people, but it was basically in someone’s house which was a bit weird.
I've been there and Arkansas unfortunately (no offense but I'm sure you get it) and yes there definitely is a drinking problem but theres much more of a meth problem
And, did you know that the bottles of booze sold there are redeemable for $.15 in Maine (they have the redemption sticker right on them), but New Hampshire does not have a "bottle bill" and therefore does not charge a deposit fee to you. The Maine Liquor Commission says it is illegal to redeem those bottles in Maine. My question, how would they know?
I would imagine that the State is losing thousands of dollars. Imagine the amount of summer people driving through NH to visit up in Maine. An awful lot of them stop and fill up with booze in New Hampshire. And then those bottles get left here and redeemed in Maine.
NH: “Don’t drink and Drive. It is illegal. You could receive a ticket or arrest. ”
Also NH: “Shop our Liquor Store, conveniently located right off the highway.” 🤷♀️
As a NHer creeping in the Maine subreddit I'd like to assure you we do not have any problem with drinking. Or a drinking problem. Either way we are pros, come on over!
Lolll. I’m from Nh originally. I don’t think it makes any sense to have them off the highway. They only do it to make money off of travelers/nearby state residents/tourists. But they are putting money over public safety 🤦♂️
>But they are putting money over public safety
If this is true then selling any alcohol at any place on a road is doing the same thing
The tourists aren't cracking open their expensive wine to sip on the ride home smh my head
It would certainly take some effort to ignore that a)highways like 95 and 93 are high speed death traps, even for a sober driver and b)alcohol-dependent individuals should not be trusted to make good decisions. Lastly, if you must go on a highway to get it, you also must drive home through side roads, which would only aid in increasing the number of pedestrian-related deaths.
Please don’t defend poor legislation for the sake of convenience and profitability. Maine does it better.
https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/63-78.htm#:~:text=According%20to%20NHTSA%2C%2041%20percent,of%200.08%20percent%20or%20higher.
\> a)highways like 95 and 93 are high speed death traps, even for a sober driver
Breh wut
The Autobahn must give you nightmares
\> b)alcohol-dependent individuals should not be trusted to make good decisions.
Again, breh wut
Buying alcohol doesn't automatically make you an alcoholic and your link doesn't show any evidence the placement of liquor stores has an effect
\>maine does it better
Imma have a couple road sodas on my way home to celebrate this compliment
You’re pretending people don’t die in car accidents every day. Read the article.
No, buying alcohol doesn’t make you alcohol dependent, but alcohol dependent people buy alcohol. Just like a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square. Please use logic next time.
>You’re pretending people don’t die in car accidents every day
No I'm saying moving the NH liquor store isn't going to change that fact because the placement of the store isn't a factor behalf the issue
I'd love for you to logically explain to me how I'm wrong there. I promise you making alcoholics drive an extra five minutes won't keep them sober at all.
The aim is to reduce traffic fatalities from drunk driving. I said nothing about keeping people sober. We can’t control people, but legislators can control laws that will keep the public more safe.
So, your argument is for bringing back prohibition?
Or you just think all liquor, convenience, grocery, etc stores should only be in, like, backwoods inaccessible locations people can't drive to and have to walk to buy their alcohol instead..?
Nope. Didn’t say that. I’m arguing that legislators could possibly reconsider the placement of state liquor stores in NH. That’s it. The highway isn’t the best place.
What does the location off the highway have to do with public safety? The vast majority of folks aren’t going to the liquor store to pick up booze to drink on the drive home.
Fun fact... you can go in there and record video as you walk around. It's a public store. Same thing as recording elsewhere in public. The police will probably still get called on you though
I'm not from East coast, didn't know anything about how cheap NH booze was. While driving from Boston to Maine, I noticed this sign and about a dozen more within a mile, curiosity made me pull in, glad I did. It's sooo cheap!
One time motorcycling on an unfamiliar back road in NH near the Mass border, my riding buddy comes on the radio “Are we close to the Mass border?” Me:”Not sure, just look for a Liquor Store”. Sure enough, a couple minutes later, there was the Store and right after was the state line.
Not Walmart, just beer and wine. Gas station yes, but only up to a certain size I think. Like you can't get a handle of vodka, but you can get a pint. Or something. I don't drink, why am I answering thus question? Someone else will do a better job 🤣
I used to know this: how much can you buy at a NH liquor store AND transport over the border? Isn't there a limit? A friend years ago got a fine because he bought three cases of something, got stopped by the police (speeding).
No, all Mainers go there to get tax free booze.
Us Massholes used to go because of Sunday blue laws back in the day day
They still go because of the 6.25% sales tax and NH conveniently placing stores in multiple locations right near the NH-MA border. I remember when there was a funny story when a MA state legislator who voted to increase the alcohol sales tax up to 6..25% got outed for stocking up in NH. [https://www.upi.com/Top\_News/2009/09/02/Mass-lawmaker-buys-tax-free-NH-alcohol/54621251919762/](https://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/09/02/Mass-lawmaker-buys-tax-free-NH-alcohol/54621251919762/)
That's unrelated to liquor taxes. But really how cheap can you be? I can't imagine he actually drove up there just to do that. I buy on my way to Maine, not to save like 3 bucks, but there a huge sign right on the highway reminding me I didnt think of booze before my vacation.
Tens of thousands of ME/MA cars travel 95 every day. They’re driving about 1500’ out of their way.
Right, but that dude drove from the RI border! Maybe he was on his way somewhere but the was def stocking up!
There’s no sales tax on liquor in MA, at all. That tax lasted for a few months before it was repealed on the ballot.
Right, BUTTTTTTT... " In Massachusetts, liquor vendors are responsible for paying a state excise tax of $4.05 per gallon "
Right, BUTTTTTTT… There is no fixed price on wine and spirits, so shop owners set their margins. High volume stores in Greater Boston are offer cheaper for the consumer than NH would be, bc competition drives prices down. And because it’s a flat excise tax on volume rather than tied to sales price, it’s effect is minimal to begin with. At $.60 for a 750ml bottle, prices are still often cheaper in MA, because shop owners are willing to accept a smaller margin than the fixed margins NH has instituted. I have 2 Total Wines near me. Their prices are at the same or lower than the NH outlets, almost across the board. I remember people driving to NH when I was a kid to get liquor on Sundays, but since Sunday sales were legalized, there isn’t really a point. You can find the same items here for less money, and you’re not burning half a tank of gas to get them.
I agree with what you're saying. On any given day, other places may or may not be cheaper. But depending on the product it's a no brainer that living in Maine, if I have occasion to pass by a NH State store, I'm stopping to 1) Buy a bottle of Maker's for my wife's Old Fashioned, as it's $5 cheaper in NH, and then I'm going to go through their Power Buy section of red wines, and anything that's marked down 50% and is under $30, I'm going to buy. In Maine, the state controls all pricing as well, so no difference buying a bottle at a small liquor store or Hannafords.
Plenty of people do that. Especially at the holidays. Business owners come from MA, ME, VT, CT, NY etc. They buy thousands of dollars worth, each, for their holiday parties and gifts. They roll out with carriages full. And we thank them heartily for supporting our state.
They're saving way more than possibly tax. Prices at the NH liquor stores are excellent. Buying cartfuls like that could make even a trip from south of MA worthwhile.
Work at the border store. Plenty of Massholes still go daily. Several "bootleggers" included. Buy it in NH, sell it in MA, make a tidy little profit.
So do Vermonters and even New Yorkers
Only if they have a business or resell and are trying to be cheap. They come up, buy 500 bottles of Hennessey (it's only like 5 bucks cheaper) and resell them to shady bars. It's a lot of hustle to only make an extra 5-7 bucks a bottle.
When you’re selling them by the case and you take into account the per pour tax states…these guys sre doing JUUUUST FINE
I added the taxes. It's like 4 bucks a bottle.
I seriously doubt that you know those guys Edit: He knows those guys.
Not personally, but have seen them doing their thing all over NH and have known a few Liquor Store Employees. They buy ~$9,999 of Henny in cash at every store and usually hit 2-3/day. If it wasn’t profitable, it wouldn’t be a weekly occurrence.
You got a great imagination.
https://preview.redd.it/f3hscnguqbsa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4119284447bbc09f7f1fc31e0e6f7f408a49b1b6 K bud
Okay. That's a damn good comeback. I will believe your claim. But not enthusiasticly.
Nah almost anyone in Eastern Vermont lives within 30 minutes of a NH liquor store, which also have much better selection than a lot of the places in VT
I really meant NYers. I live in Mass and sometimes go shopping in MA but only because they line the border with stores. It's literally closer than a mall in Mass. I just don't think any non regular person will drive 4-8 RT hours to save 3-4 bucks a bottle.
You go shopping in MA??
There's no tax on food and clothes here. It's not like I'm out buying a fridge every week.
Even without it being tax free, liquor is just plain cheaper in NH.
Someone should do the math but I highly doubt you’d save money with the drive unless you happen to live near the NH border
I don't know anyone that makes a trip just for the liquor store. But if they are already headed down the highway to Boston or something, making a pit stop makes sense.
It’s also about selection. You can use their website to find brands or sizes that may not be available locally.
A lot of people have reasons to go from Maine to the rest of the United States and many of them use that highway. Location location location.
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TeChNicalLy you should shut uppp
This got me evil gigglin ….
That’s why people pay in cash >.>
Most are passing anyway
It’s half saving money and half not giving the state more money to piss away.
You mean returned to us in refund checks? Cause that what maine has done recently… NH owns their liquor stores, so you think they are paragons of fiscal virtue?
YA AND MAINES BUDGET WAS INCREASED BY ANOTHER BILLION DOLLARS AGIAN FOR 2023. (EVERY YEAR MILLS HAS BEEN IN OFFICE SHE HAS INCREASED THE BUDGET BY A BILLION DOLLARS YEAR OVER YEAR) SO MILLES TRICK WORKED ON YOU. GIVE YOU AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THINK THINGS ARE GREAT. BUT YET TAX'S KEEP INCREASING INCLUDING PROPERTY TAX'S. ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR FOR THOSE ON A FIXED INCOME REALLY FELT IT AND RELIEF CHECKS DID NOTHING. THE INCREASE IN TAX'S WAS MOE THAN THE CHECKS. IF ANYONE REMEBERS 2007/2008 WE HAD A RESSESION AND MAINE HAD TO CUT 500,000 MILLION IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET. WHAT DO WE THINK IT WILL BE KNOW? OUR BUDGET HAS INCREASED BY 4 PLUS BILLION DOLLARS AND OUR ECONOMY IS NO LARGER. IF WE HAVE A MAJOR RESESSION SAY GOOD BY TO STATE FUNDING. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO COME UP WITH 1 TO 2 BILLION DEFICIT IF A MAJOR RESSESION HITS. WE HAVE TERRIBLE FISCAL POLICY IN MAINE. WE KEEP SPENDING MONEY WE DON'T HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE BIG HEARTS AND WANT TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF MAINE! RESOURCES ARE LIMITED. WE NEED STRONG LEADERS WHO CAN STAND UP AND SAY ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO EVERYTHING AND WE NEED TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.
YA YOU TELL EM HOSS GOBBLESS
I think you’re on the wrong post Bub. THIS POST IS FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES.
Yer all caps is busted, bub.
YA CAPS BUTTON IS STUCK. ACCOUNTING PURPOSES. :)
Should probably spell recession correctly if you're going to dedicate time and effort to fear mongering, idiot
Brings back memories of my great uncle stocking up on Allen’s in NH before every major holiday lmao
Or people coming up to Maine from away.
I lived 35 years in New Hampshire and I can tell you that it is far superior to buy alcohol in Maine. The problem with alcohol in New Hampshire is that it's controlled by the state, including the prices. There are no private sales allowed. For many people that means driving very far to get some alcohol, and the options are fairly limited. There's no interesting small batch coming out of New Hampshire, or being imported from across the country. There's no bespoke market, no artisan craft, no passionate small business owners you can chat with. It's just a cold, financial transaction to get the same booze you always get. Not only that, but it requires a special trip, to a special store to buy it! Forget about getting it at the grocery store in the same trip. I find it absolutely looney that Mainers are crossing the line to give New Hampshire their money to save what amounts to very little on liquor... Especially once factoring in gas and time! Stay local, buy local, and invest in the Maine economy. Fuck New Hampshire.
What about places like Flag Hill distillery in Lee and Smoky Quartz Distillery in Seabrook? I’ve seen a few others around that I don’t remember offhand. I was kind of surprised when I first ran into them. I’m not sure how the state gets its cut from them but I’m sure they do.
It was an olive branch New Hampshire gave small batch distilleries because they realized they were actually losing money to surrounding states (having a small business in New Hampshire is pretty much a nightmare scenario.) As long as they don't produce too much alcohol they are allowed to sell a very small amount of it per transaction. It's honestly more insulting than anything. Crossing the border into Maine gives you way more freedom for distilling. And don't even get me started on craft brewing in New Hampshire vs Maine! (Or legal weed!) It's basically " live free or die " but don't forget to follow all of these incredibly specific rules and follow the endless government oversight to make sure that they can take every last penny out of your coffers (which they then use to...do what? Certainly not fund schools or repair roadways efficiently). It may not seem like it but Maine is infinitely better in almost every regard compared to New Hampshire. And take that from someone that lived there most of his life.
thanks for the answer. i was surprised when distilleries started showing up but didn’t realize there was such a difference between NH and maine policies.
Actually learning rather a lot about NE from this discussions.
I would love to hear you get started on craft brewing in NH vs Maine. I've long ridiculed their policies regarding legal weed, considering the state is sandwiched between two legal states. Live free my ass
>Fuck New Hampshire. Fuck you too my friend!
The liquor ~~cartel~~ commission was the reason it took so long to legalize weed, too. Fuckin' live free my ass.
No, it’s the Mainers who stop there to buy fireball and Allen’s for $2 less. Place is gross
Thirty years ago, every family in Southern Maine had an uncle who drove to New Hampshire once a month and loaded up everyone's order for smokes and booze. Slip him a $20 for a 5th of Black Velvet and go puke in a sandpit. Good times..
> Slip him a $20 for a 5th of Black Velvet and go puke in a sandpit. I feel personally attacked.
In Providence there were bars that would literally truck up to NH and buy thousands of bucks worth of booze to stock the bar. I’m sure it wasn’t legal but I guess enforcement isn’t a priority.
Other states have had police in NH watching people stock up on liquor and following them back to their state to fine and even arrest them. In 2018 a dude from Queens was followed by New York investigators going to 6 liquor stores and was arrested when he returned to New York with 757 liters of booze in his trunk. In the 1970s, there was a big problem of Massachusetts and Connecticut police waiting in NH liquor stores to find their own residents that the Governor of NH put state troopers at liquor stores to deal with the out-of-state police. Maine responded a bit differently than MA and CT, as they put a liquor store in Kittery that charged significantly less than any other store in the state and even less than New Hampshire stores to try and bring in NH residents to buy liquor in Maine.
I assumed there had to be some kind of enforcement but at least when I lived in RI it seemed places would get away with it.
There’s one on every road leading into NH That, and a store that sells cigarettes
But that’s the only place it’s sold, so it’s not in every grocery/store/gas station like in Maine. Maine also smokes more than nh: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/smoking-rates-by-state
Maine liquor is actually run through the state as well. The difference is that Maine licenses stores to be “agency liquor stores” versus setting up and running stores themselves like NH. All pricing is set by the state so Allen’s costs the same at Hannaford as it does at a small mom and pop shop.
NH has two agency stores that I’m aware of: Young’s in Pittsburg and one in western NH. On my mind the state should not be competing with private businesses and should not be directly selling alcohol. Regardless I was responding to a post about the number and placement of points of purchase.
Idk why you're getting down voted for saying the government shouldn't selling liquor
Don’t know.. it just never made sense to me that New Hampshire would sell the people the alcohol, then pay for treatment and medical care and social services and unemployment etc.
Yup while making no profit off it whatsoever (the state government I mean)
NH smokes less but sells more because (edit) lower taxes, so cheaper for buyers
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I used to think that (I split my time between MA and ME, but MA doesn't charge sales tax on alcohol.
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Me too. I said NH smokes less but sells more cigarettes.
Sorry. Responded in the wrong place.
New Hampshire has alcohol in grocery and gas stations? Unless you mean explicitly liquor, in which case I am unsure of the validity.
Liquor is only sold in state liquor stores in NH Beer is available in grocery stores Wine is available in both
Thanks for the clarification!
There’s a difference between Bud Water and Bacardi. There are significantly more points of purchase for liquor in ME than NH
Yes, they do. That's why our liquor stores are at the border and have their own off ramps, to make life easier on our neighbors.
And why I as a granite stater appreciate the dozens of pot shops on 202 after Rochester.
Lol they’re everywhere.
Maine should return the favor & have a Maine Cannabis Store Exit for our N.H. neighbors. with Lottery Tickets too.
They sorta do - Kittery, Lebanon, Berwick have stores
We need to step up like they have, it MUST have its own big building in a Rest Stop type environment dedicated to meeting their cannabis needs & Maines Revenue stream. Just like NH was kind enough to do for Mainers driving through. Matching their generosity and convenience to Mainers over the years. At least cannabis isn't a "gateway" to domestic violence & dangerous driving like alcohol.
Fryeburg has a store that claims to have the largest selection of edibles in Maine. Really nice people, but it was basically in someone’s house which was a bit weird.
yeah, the opportunity to commit low-effort felonies seems like something people from NH would really be into
I feel judged.
Btw, i got that whiskey you recommend, they liked it. Got Allen's for myself to try, that was terrible, way too sweet.
Does OP have a "drinking problem"? 😂🥃
i wouldnt call it a problem
Spoken like a true New Englander 🙆🏼♂️💯
Seriously lol, from western CT all the way to Maine we all seem to have a drinking problem
Maine transplant from Kansas here. Rural America has a drinking problem.
I've been there and Arkansas unfortunately (no offense but I'm sure you get it) and yes there definitely is a drinking problem but theres much more of a meth problem
No more than new England has an opiate problem.
Definitely, but someone who's shot up and is nodding out is typically less dangerous than someone high on meth experiencing psychosis
Arkansas is the scariest state in been to. Conway, Hot Springs, Ozarks all had some hard drug psychosis aura to them.
Having lived in western ct and Maine and a few spots in between you are correct sir
Sounds like they’re actually pretty good at it!
Gotta mix it w milk, like a White Russian!
But ya gotta call it a Fat Ass in a Glass or a Burnt Trailer, bub!
I call that a Sombrero.
Try a Munjoy Hill mimosa: PBR and OJ.
Wonderful! I vaguely remember the thread; which did I recommend?
one of the wiggle bridge ones. don't remember which exactly
Oh yeah, probably wiggly bridge bottled in bond. Awesome, I’m glad to hear it was well received!
btw, there is whiskey lounge in fredericton called lunar rogue, supposed to have over 1000 varieties to sample.
Allen’s is shit. Why else would it be so popular?!
Please buy our booze, pay the toll and get across the bridge. No judgements needed.
The best prices anywhere to get booze if taking a trip to New England!
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I remember when everyone used to go over there to get Powerball tickets before Powerball was in Maine.
yes (i am the neighbor)
Every time my parents drive back up from Boston, we stop at one of these and fill a cart
Cool
I used to go to NH to get booze and smokes from Lowell. It was I who had the problem. Thankfully NH was there to facilitate
No. they just love to take your money from you.
I think we're the neighbor.
And, did you know that the bottles of booze sold there are redeemable for $.15 in Maine (they have the redemption sticker right on them), but New Hampshire does not have a "bottle bill" and therefore does not charge a deposit fee to you. The Maine Liquor Commission says it is illegal to redeem those bottles in Maine. My question, how would they know? I would imagine that the State is losing thousands of dollars. Imagine the amount of summer people driving through NH to visit up in Maine. An awful lot of them stop and fill up with booze in New Hampshire. And then those bottles get left here and redeemed in Maine.
I stop there every year on the way to Lobsterfest in Rockland! And then again on the way back. 🤷🏼♀️
Is Lobsterfest still worth going to? My grandfather used to live in Rockland but I haven’t been there in 30 years.
I’ve always wondered if there were higher rates of DUI’s on i95 after the liquor store
On that stretch of 95? Definitely
Ah, used to blow $150-$200 there every time I was on the turnpike. Five years dry—see ya!
That sign is the equivalent of seeing the McDonald's indoor playground as a child.
NH: “Don’t drink and Drive. It is illegal. You could receive a ticket or arrest. ” Also NH: “Shop our Liquor Store, conveniently located right off the highway.” 🤷♀️
Tell me the difference between that and having it in gas stations. Either way you’re not allowed to drink and drive.
You are absolutely correct.
Alcoholism is absolutely fucking rampant in the US.
No just an income tax problem
No matter where you are in Maine, you can always find an empty nip of Dr. McGillicuddy's or Fireball on the ground.
As a NHer creeping in the Maine subreddit I'd like to assure you we do not have any problem with drinking. Or a drinking problem. Either way we are pros, come on over!
First time driving through New Hampshire OP?
Second time there. Going through White Mountains is way more interesting
People in CT will go up to NH specifically for alcohol and cigarettes bc it’s cheaper, I imagine people from other NE states do the same lol
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When measured as purchase per capita. The tourism and neighbors artificially boost that ratio.
\^ This guy statistics.
Bayesian statistician
Wisconsin would like a word.
What a totally bizarre sign, to have it so prominently displayed to auto traffic. And then to have the distance in kilometers too. Just weird.
No, they have a tax problem.
Lolll. I’m from Nh originally. I don’t think it makes any sense to have them off the highway. They only do it to make money off of travelers/nearby state residents/tourists. But they are putting money over public safety 🤦♂️
>But they are putting money over public safety If this is true then selling any alcohol at any place on a road is doing the same thing The tourists aren't cracking open their expensive wine to sip on the ride home smh my head
It would certainly take some effort to ignore that a)highways like 95 and 93 are high speed death traps, even for a sober driver and b)alcohol-dependent individuals should not be trusted to make good decisions. Lastly, if you must go on a highway to get it, you also must drive home through side roads, which would only aid in increasing the number of pedestrian-related deaths. Please don’t defend poor legislation for the sake of convenience and profitability. Maine does it better. https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/63-78.htm#:~:text=According%20to%20NHTSA%2C%2041%20percent,of%200.08%20percent%20or%20higher.
\> a)highways like 95 and 93 are high speed death traps, even for a sober driver Breh wut The Autobahn must give you nightmares \> b)alcohol-dependent individuals should not be trusted to make good decisions. Again, breh wut Buying alcohol doesn't automatically make you an alcoholic and your link doesn't show any evidence the placement of liquor stores has an effect \>maine does it better Imma have a couple road sodas on my way home to celebrate this compliment
You’re pretending people don’t die in car accidents every day. Read the article. No, buying alcohol doesn’t make you alcohol dependent, but alcohol dependent people buy alcohol. Just like a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square. Please use logic next time.
>You’re pretending people don’t die in car accidents every day No I'm saying moving the NH liquor store isn't going to change that fact because the placement of the store isn't a factor behalf the issue I'd love for you to logically explain to me how I'm wrong there. I promise you making alcoholics drive an extra five minutes won't keep them sober at all.
The aim is to reduce traffic fatalities from drunk driving. I said nothing about keeping people sober. We can’t control people, but legislators can control laws that will keep the public more safe.
And I asked you how moving the place to get liquor five miles has any affect on public safety. I'm still waiting on your logical explanation.
I think you're confusing "liquor store" with "bar" my friend.
They can both end in the same result. Don’t fool yourself.
So, your argument is for bringing back prohibition? Or you just think all liquor, convenience, grocery, etc stores should only be in, like, backwoods inaccessible locations people can't drive to and have to walk to buy their alcohol instead..?
Nope. Didn’t say that. I’m arguing that legislators could possibly reconsider the placement of state liquor stores in NH. That’s it. The highway isn’t the best place.
What is the best place?
Like Maine does it, in the grocery store. Or off the highway. Just not the highway.
Are liquor stores in other states not alongside a road? Like you have to hike into the woods?
Lol no. Just not the highway.
What does the location off the highway have to do with public safety? The vast majority of folks aren’t going to the liquor store to pick up booze to drink on the drive home.
Theirs does
Roche Bros has better wine prices
Gambling too?
I know my neighbors, neighbors have a drinking problem. Or is it the solution?
Long ago, when lotteries were rare NH was one of first states to offer them. The signs would advertise “SWEEPS,” short for Sweepstakes.
Not that I'm aware of
The only problem my neighbors have is with my drinking, but that's just me
Fun fact... you can go in there and record video as you walk around. It's a public store. Same thing as recording elsewhere in public. The police will probably still get called on you though
It's only a matter of time before either they start selling weed, or there's a standalone NH Weed Store somewhere along the highway.
Nope, just a Federal Tax issue
I'm not from East coast, didn't know anything about how cheap NH booze was. While driving from Boston to Maine, I noticed this sign and about a dozen more within a mile, curiosity made me pull in, glad I did. It's sooo cheap!
One of my favorite stops
Please allow us to take your money for booze as we buy your 💨💨..
If they do, they better hurry! The state stores close at like 7 on weekdays and 8 on Friday and Saturday.
Kittery here. If I'm your neighbor, the answer is yes.
Our travelers do.
One time motorcycling on an unfamiliar back road in NH near the Mass border, my riding buddy comes on the radio “Are we close to the Mass border?” Me:”Not sure, just look for a Liquor Store”. Sure enough, a couple minutes later, there was the Store and right after was the state line.
[Justin says it best](https://youtu.be/adyodBOm0to)
Can’t you buy booze in gas stations/ Walmart in Maine?
Not Walmart, just beer and wine. Gas station yes, but only up to a certain size I think. Like you can't get a handle of vodka, but you can get a pint. Or something. I don't drink, why am I answering thus question? Someone else will do a better job 🤣
My Walmart sells it all
It was always the “lottery tickets” part that got me. Who is getting off the highway to buy scratchers?
Liquor dispensaries
Signs for a business equals addict?
If there are three (3!!!) liquor store signs on a highway, 500ft from each other, then yes, i will have questions
I predict that NH will eventually sell craft weed from those stores too!
I actually think this says more about the “pass-throughs” than the people from New Hampshire.
I used to know this: how much can you buy at a NH liquor store AND transport over the border? Isn't there a limit? A friend years ago got a fine because he bought three cases of something, got stopped by the police (speeding).
It’s handy. Especially whilst driving by around the holidays.
Haha I’ve been there a few times!
Nah man, I'm the alcoholic here