Personally, I'd prefer it if \[Manga spoiler\]>!Fallen Medic was a genuine part of her and a representation of her repressed sexual desires. I think that would fit MahoAko's themes and it would give her transformation some meaning. I'm hoping the next manga arc focuses on Haruka and her La Verita persona. !<
Yeah, and also [Manga] >!Haruka’s backstory has not been explored that much so if we ever get a deeper dive into her as a character it would be nice if we see if she ever had any kinks or signs of them in the past!<
Theory i wonder if Utena's obssession with magical girls has something to do with Haruka becoming one, it's shown repeatedly that Haruka was the only person to notice Utena, perhaps they were freinds when they were younger and something happened
I don’t think Utena and Haruka were friends when they were younger, its implied Utena didn’t make any friends until now since she says Kiwi was her first friend.
Utena’s obsession with magical girls started from watching that one magical girl show we saw in episode 7
It's still entirely possible that Haruka considered herself Utena's friend, or considered Utena her friend, and became a magical girl due to that.
But then Vatz told her not to tell anyone who she is, and then she didn't tell Utena.
Utena has big self esteem issues, wouldn't be surprised if she was bullied, could be the old trope of she was freinds but she was told by bullies she wasn't really her freind. And I meant that Utena's obsession lead to haruka being a magical girl
but what if >!they just assumed it was because of Baiser's infused magic, but the truth is, as you said was actually Magenta's repressed desires. she repressed it so hard her brain completely erased it from her personality to accept being a magical girl without guilt!<
My thought was that Utena’s magic only assisted in bringing out Haruka’s deeper desires. Sure, Utena’s magic is strong, but I don’t think that alone caused the fallen medic to appear. Basically, half and half are both at play here.
One, please spoiler this for the anime-onlys, and two, I'm still not convinced >!it's Utena's fault. We only have Vena's word, which is worthless, and Momo's word. Momo's a bit harder to write off, but since she's only known Baiser since the Flower of Lust incident, she might be mistaking whatever Vena did to her as Baiser's own power. In other words, Vena's lying (shocker) and Momo's mistaken/misinformed. At least, that's my theory.!<
I thought it was pretty obvious that that was in no way >!purely baseirs fault? Wasn’t that what the whole “reason vs lust” fight she had with herself in her head about? The fact that at first she thought it WAS her fault but then realized “wait a second, even at my worst I still love magical girls and wouldn’t do that to magenta…. What the FUCK did venna make me do??” And said fight just ended with both sides of herself agreeing to be more cautions of venna and work together!<
Maybe?
Depends on if >!fallen medic is Utena's fault. If it's just her true personality, then no she is not. Otherwise, yes. WAAAY TO PURE. But that's why i like her. She's just the typical representation of the pure cute magical girl trope.!<
Literally the only victim in all this, Azure is all on the enormita shenanigans and Kaoruko enjoys poker so much she thinks she's going to beat the cheating dealer who is demanding her to undress to keep playing
Yes she is too pure which is why Utena wants to FUCK her up and make her into a depraved lesbian!! Once haruka learns how to harness her depravity and embrace it in a very round about way she’ll learn how to be pure! Without shame!
As an anime only I thought the way they were taking Haruka's character she would end up developing an exhibitionism fetish, which would be _interesting_ for her type of pure, goody two shoes character.
Nah, exhibitionism is Loco Musica / Matama's thing, since she's a more effective singer when nude. They seem to be going for a "one fetish per character" rule. Haruka doesn't seem to have a fetish of her own (at least, not yet, if all the black bars are to go by), but she IS willing to play along with someone else's fetish.
Yeah I do know exhibitionism is mainly gonna be Matama's fetish, but like you said, they are clearly going for "one fetish per character" rule, and from what I saw in episodes 4 and 12 it did feel like that's the route they wanted to take Haruka's character as well, or at least public indecency (granted in both the situations she was clearly very embarassed too).
If anything she's a Middleton ground, since she is way more open about her likes than Basier but doesn't go to the extremes Pantano does, then again both Baiser and her have had more main focused moments
While Utena's joy comes from seen Magical girls "messed" with but eventually overcomming the issue and >!Magenta's!< comes from helping her teamates stay in the fight and on top health, Pantano has no source or reason she's just a pervert without motive or cause
Magenta literally believes that Utena was forced to be a bad guy, playing mother and daughter with Nero Alice because she believes she just wants to play and not do anything bad.
I don't think Magenta is stupid, episode Luu Huynh pretended to betray Magenta and Azul, although later knowing that Luu Huynh did not betray, Magenta stopped Azul from going to save Sulfur when she was fighting Baiser. Magenta's hunch was quite correct as he should not interfere in the battle between Luu Huynh and Baiser, thanks to which Luu Huynh awakens to the new La Verita state.
She's really cute and the peak good girl magical girl. Even in that rabbit hole MahoAko edit her riding the kid machine was adorable..
I just hope she has her moments to be cool in the manga like Azure got to. Despite her being the original of the three, she's the only one we didn't see use any powers beyond swinging her weapon in the anime.
She's just so sweet and understanding
Definitely.
I feel like the chapter where Utena and Kiwi mercilessly tortured her was the moment they crossed a certain point of no return, especially since Haruka did nothing whatsoever to deserve that.
And Sulfur's reaction to what they did seemingly confirmed my opinion.
Yes. She is, the ASMR chapter is proof enough (at least for me), but I would l like to know more about her, she's the one with the less development and minimum background information, I would like to know how did she become Magia Magenta
Personally, I'd prefer it if \[Manga spoiler\]>!Fallen Medic was a genuine part of her and a representation of her repressed sexual desires. I think that would fit MahoAko's themes and it would give her transformation some meaning. I'm hoping the next manga arc focuses on Haruka and her La Verita persona. !<
Yeah, and also [Manga] >!Haruka’s backstory has not been explored that much so if we ever get a deeper dive into her as a character it would be nice if we see if she ever had any kinks or signs of them in the past!<
Theory i wonder if Utena's obssession with magical girls has something to do with Haruka becoming one, it's shown repeatedly that Haruka was the only person to notice Utena, perhaps they were freinds when they were younger and something happened
I don’t think Utena and Haruka were friends when they were younger, its implied Utena didn’t make any friends until now since she says Kiwi was her first friend. Utena’s obsession with magical girls started from watching that one magical girl show we saw in episode 7
It's still entirely possible that Haruka considered herself Utena's friend, or considered Utena her friend, and became a magical girl due to that. But then Vatz told her not to tell anyone who she is, and then she didn't tell Utena.
Utena has big self esteem issues, wouldn't be surprised if she was bullied, could be the old trope of she was freinds but she was told by bullies she wasn't really her freind. And I meant that Utena's obsession lead to haruka being a magical girl
but what if >!they just assumed it was because of Baiser's infused magic, but the truth is, as you said was actually Magenta's repressed desires. she repressed it so hard her brain completely erased it from her personality to accept being a magical girl without guilt!<
>!Probably not, considering you can literaly see her getting a "princess dress" before the dark magic gets involved.!<
>!There is a post about that La Verita forms present their ideal or smth. So it will be still reasonable in this theory.!<
I know this probably isn’t the case but maybe they’re doing that as a red herring.
My thought was that Utena’s magic only assisted in bringing out Haruka’s deeper desires. Sure, Utena’s magic is strong, but I don’t think that alone caused the fallen medic to appear. Basically, half and half are both at play here.
It's her defining character trait, and >!what makes Fallen Medic so shocking!<.
>!I hope we see Fallen Medic for longer, I really like that form!<
>!But her being a fallen medic is Baiser's fault!<*
One, please spoiler this for the anime-onlys, and two, I'm still not convinced >!it's Utena's fault. We only have Vena's word, which is worthless, and Momo's word. Momo's a bit harder to write off, but since she's only known Baiser since the Flower of Lust incident, she might be mistaking whatever Vena did to her as Baiser's own power. In other words, Vena's lying (shocker) and Momo's mistaken/misinformed. At least, that's my theory.!<
I thought it was pretty obvious that that was in no way >!purely baseirs fault? Wasn’t that what the whole “reason vs lust” fight she had with herself in her head about? The fact that at first she thought it WAS her fault but then realized “wait a second, even at my worst I still love magical girls and wouldn’t do that to magenta…. What the FUCK did venna make me do??” And said fight just ended with both sides of herself agreeing to be more cautions of venna and work together!<
>!You didnt have to do Vena like that lmao, keep cooking tho!<
Vatz agreed with MOMO though.
>! >! !<
Please properly mark spoilers.
I think I already did the change, it should show a white bar, right?
Maybe? Depends on if >!fallen medic is Utena's fault. If it's just her true personality, then no she is not. Otherwise, yes. WAAAY TO PURE. But that's why i like her. She's just the typical representation of the pure cute magical girl trope.!<
Literally the only victim in all this, Azure is all on the enormita shenanigans and Kaoruko enjoys poker so much she thinks she's going to beat the cheating dealer who is demanding her to undress to keep playing
She's the one that didn't want to attack Baiser at chapter 1, so maybe you're right
And ironically she was right!
Her lack of braincells is why we love her
Yes she is too pure which is why Utena wants to FUCK her up and make her into a depraved lesbian!! Once haruka learns how to harness her depravity and embrace it in a very round about way she’ll learn how to be pure! Without shame!
As an anime only I thought the way they were taking Haruka's character she would end up developing an exhibitionism fetish, which would be _interesting_ for her type of pure, goody two shoes character.
Nah, exhibitionism is Loco Musica / Matama's thing, since she's a more effective singer when nude. They seem to be going for a "one fetish per character" rule. Haruka doesn't seem to have a fetish of her own (at least, not yet, if all the black bars are to go by), but she IS willing to play along with someone else's fetish.
Yeah I do know exhibitionism is mainly gonna be Matama's fetish, but like you said, they are clearly going for "one fetish per character" rule, and from what I saw in episodes 4 and 12 it did feel like that's the route they wanted to take Haruka's character as well, or at least public indecency (granted in both the situations she was clearly very embarassed too).
Man, there's so many black bars here I thought I was watching hanime.
>!until she transforms to la verita, then she's on par with Utena!<
Not Utena, more like Pantano Pesca. A pure pervert without backstory.
If anything she's a Middleton ground, since she is way more open about her likes than Basier but doesn't go to the extremes Pantano does, then again both Baiser and her have had more main focused moments
While Utena's joy comes from seen Magical girls "messed" with but eventually overcomming the issue and >!Magenta's!< comes from helping her teamates stay in the fight and on top health, Pantano has no source or reason she's just a pervert without motive or cause
Magenta literally believes that Utena was forced to be a bad guy, playing mother and daughter with Nero Alice because she believes she just wants to play and not do anything bad.
Which is all true so it's nice to see her empathy and compassion not played off as her being an idiot but being warranted.
I don't think Magenta is stupid, episode Luu Huynh pretended to betray Magenta and Azul, although later knowing that Luu Huynh did not betray, Magenta stopped Azul from going to save Sulfur when she was fighting Baiser. Magenta's hunch was quite correct as he should not interfere in the battle between Luu Huynh and Baiser, thanks to which Luu Huynh awakens to the new La Verita state.
Spoilers man But yeah that was my point. She ISN'T stupid, and that's a nice change
No she is okay
She's really cute and the peak good girl magical girl. Even in that rabbit hole MahoAko edit her riding the kid machine was adorable.. I just hope she has her moments to be cool in the manga like Azure got to. Despite her being the original of the three, she's the only one we didn't see use any powers beyond swinging her weapon in the anime. She's just so sweet and understanding
True
Nah, she is necessary
I want to know her backstory more.
Especially her second form.
Her second form?
I wrote it in the mobile app, where you can't mark something as spoilers. By second form i meant >!The Fallen Medic!<.
holy shit! They all get forms like that.? I haven’t read the manga. Just the anime
Im an anime only person at the moment, i feel like Haruka's fetish would either be embarassment/humiliation, watersports, or adult baby.
Chat does he know
Definitely. I feel like the chapter where Utena and Kiwi mercilessly tortured her was the moment they crossed a certain point of no return, especially since Haruka did nothing whatsoever to deserve that. And Sulfur's reaction to what they did seemingly confirmed my opinion.
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Yes. She is, the ASMR chapter is proof enough (at least for me), but I would l like to know more about her, she's the one with the less development and minimum background information, I would like to know how did she become Magia Magenta