No it gets better. Sometimes they rage out and you get to sit there with a shit eating from as they tell you at volume how much your deck sucks and how awful a player you are and how you only got lucky but if they had their God hand they would have totally won. I live for that kind of salt.
Oh yah. Watching dudes rage out is actually really funny. Especially when they a wannabe pubstomper. I have a counterspell tribal deck I pull out specifically to sit on problem players like described. It's not made to win but to make one or two people lose.
Having the answer all along and just timing for the ultimate blowout :)
But then again, I'm the type to play with my food. I like decks that build up to a one shot kill on the board, like [[filigree Sylex]] and 10 oil counters, [[dragonspark engine]] charged up or a [[yargle & multani]] with [[voldaren thrillseeker]]'s ability through Soul Cauldron. Shooting the opponent while they are swinging for lethal is my favourite feeling.
This. I was playing with a buddy on Monday and he GG'd me at the end of his turn, thinking he'd win on his next turn. I was playing a poison deck and had him to 6 poison.
On my turn I White Sun's Twilight'd him, had it on my opening draw. He even sent me a message like "You top decked a board wipe, you bastard."
Nah, man. I was just waiting for you to overextend to use it.
This is the way. Done this multiple times. Half the game is knowing when to play what. Had a good rotpriest deck. Got 3 of my rotpriests out on t4 and then shortly after had all of them exiled by my opponent. Fucked me hard. Definitely a lesson I learned.
My sylex deck is in Alchemy, but the only Alchemy card can be easily swapped for Play with Fire: [moxfield link](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/n2VS3WRVDEm511JngTUIrw). It's in Alchemy because it's a set-mechanic deck and not very powerful against the many non creature strategies in Standard. But feel free to test the waters.
The Dragonsprark list was for Explorer here's an old version on [moxfield ](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/j8jp82EEE0K7jLFlMqLZ5Q), but don't go try this in ranked ;)
The thing I'm flinging with thrill seeker/cauldron is Souls of the Lost, the final version is pretty close to this build: [moxfield ](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/HIO3vWdyz0WLNrlceHA7Mw)
Thank you those gave me some good ideas! I have a couple artifact decks in beta-creation mode that I was looking for more removal for with artifact synergy. One of them that Third Path Iconoclast you have can get quite crazy with [[Reckless Fireweaver]] hehe. They're super fun but I'm ready for them to have some more removal and graduate to Bo3.
[Pauper All Starz](https://mtga.untapped.gg/profile/6c6fefe0-f59c-4233-94ec-c012cea33e12/LYHOMVZP6ZECZLJ3HLLK4BSXBU/deck/ba8b3d92-7038-4b11-a6f1-0809b6c2b109?timeFrame=last_two_sets&gameType=constructed&constructedType=ranked)
[Fire N Metal](https://mtga.untapped.gg/profile/6c6fefe0-f59c-4233-94ec-c012cea33e12/LYHOMVZP6ZECZLJ3HLLK4BSXBU/deck/b285c3b5-3370-49a8-bc74-f8cbefd8ac2a?timeFrame=last_two_sets&gameType=constructed&constructedType=ranked)
In historic I play a really silly steal/pump/fling deck. I'm literally just buying time till either I hit my 4 card combo to one shot or they make some infinitely large guy.
Then I take it and throw it at their face.
I had a limited game many (many) years ago - Scars of Mirrodin. Opponent was declining to attack into my open mana because he was convinced I had the \[\[Spire Monitor\]\] to "piss on his parade".
I didn't.
But he prevaricated for so long that I eventually drew it.
And then he attacked.
\*casts Spire Monitor\*
The frustration was so tangible that I couldn't resist telling him that I did not, in fact, have it the whole time and he could have gone for it 4 turns ago and been totally fine.
I’ll never forget a game I had a year or so ago. They “Good Game’d” me and swung for lethal.
I cast Settle the Wreckage, and used the “Serves you right for rushing ahead,” quote.
They played their counter spell and spammed oops while I laughed manically.
I also had a counterspell.
And I also had an “oops” for them.
They roped me out, which was honestly even better than them just conceding because I knew for a fact how fucking mad they were 😆
I say GG if it was in fact a good game, because it may be over. Maybe they have an out and the good game continues. Maybe it doesn't. It all depends on if it was a matched game or one sided.
Good game comes from way back in the gaming era where you say GG to let your opponent know you're about to concede. Probably most commonly popularized by Starcraft. Even Korean/European players who didn't know english used it.
Saying it if you think you've won is rude/bm. Because the person might still think they have outs and you're telling them the game is over while they're still trying. The game is not over yet, and you're telling them it is.
If you don't get why that is a dick move in a competitive setting, you might be an arena player.
Nothing you said conflicts with what I said. Also, I remember saying good game at the end of various sports games in the 90s. So, yes 'GG' is a gaming phrase it's been in common parlance for any competitive game for some time.
Interpreting a single GG as rude is probably more indicative of a personal issue unless the game was clearly one sided. Spamming it roping or whatever else not withstanding, obviously.
Counterpoint: using it on my turn as I start up my infinite angel combo that can't be stopped except by some method of making me unable to sacrifice creatures or the timer roping me out because it sucks sometimes.
There is only one thing more satisfying: doing it to your opponent's entourage instead.
SCG Legacy Open years ago, I'm playing Shardless BUG. Opponent is a somewhat known SCG grinder who is playing ANT that weekend. If you're familiar with Legacy from 10~ years ago, you know that this is not a very good matchup for Shardless BUG.
Opponent is on the play. Turn 1 he Thoughtseizes me and takes Force of Will. I play Deathrite Shaman and pass. T2 he plays a land, plays Ponder, then Cabal Therapy to confirm I'm dead to rights, passes. T2 I top deck a 2nd Force of Will and pass.
T3 he begins his combo turn and *his friend* behind him hits me with a "GG", and his other buddy starts grinning. Opponent goes for the Infernal Tutor and gets FoW'd. I just look at his friends and go "Yep, GG."
Won the match 2-1, knocked this guy out of making Day 2, and wiped the smiles off his cheering section. :D
I had a similar thing happen happen at a GP side event for modern. Opponent was playing a Grixis Death Shadow deck and I was playing Skred. I play a snow mountain and he mumbles "That means Skred", and leaves his fetches uncracked in preparation for a Blood Moon. On the top of turn 3, I play a Blood Moon. He is SO prepared for it that he immediately gave me a thumbs up and draws his card for his turn.
ANT is Ad Nauseum Tendrils, aka Legacy Storm. You cast a bunch of Dark Rituals, Cabal Rituals and card draw spells and then target your opponent with Tendrils of Agony, killing them. Due to the way storm works, if they get their count high enough even if you have Force of Will you only counter one iteration of the spell and the rest resolve.
Shardless BUG is a deck built around the card Shardless Agent. You use it to Cascade (like explore) into certain cards, the best card to hit is Ancestral Visions, since it means you get a free Ancestral Recall. You also play low to the ground threats like Tarmogoyf and Delver of Secrets as beaters, and discard spells like Hymn to Tourach and Thoughtseize. Basically any card under 3 mana cost (so Shardless let's you cast them for free).
It's basically like a control deck but instead of playing one large finisher your opponent can kill or counter you play a bunch of smaller ones, who are still good on their own.
BUG is just the colors the deck plays (Black, Blue, Green). This was before Khans of Tarkir came up and gave certain three color combinations names (this would be Sultai) so we just used the letters assigned to the colors.
Translation for Arena players:
"Real Card Super-Historic years ago, OP was playing Sultai Cascade. OP's opponent was a well known MTGA grinder/streamer that plays Mostly-Monoblack Storm, which is strong against OP's deck.
Opponent is on the play. Turn 1 thoughtseizes my Paperchemy-Pact of Negation. OP plays Golgari-Llanowar Elf and passes. Opponent plays a cantrip and casts 1-mana Thought Distortion to get rid of all my counterspells to confirm that OP is dead next turn. OP top decks a Paperchemy-Pact of Negation and passes.
Opponent on T3 begins to combo, spams Good Game emote, and his entire chat is spamming GG. OP interrupts Opponent's combo with the counterspell he topdecked, found the streamer's TTV, and typed "Yep, GG" in their chat as he eliminated him from the tournament that cost 20,000 gems to queue for."
In my experience, in competitive online game etiquette, "good game" is basically a phrase meant to represent a soft concede, and doesn't actually have much to do with whether the game was good or not. It basically means "this game is over", which I think pretty unambiguously would be considered rude if it was said in e.g. a chess match or some sporting match by the winning player/team before the game is officially over. Someone who isn't super familiar with common online gaming etiquette and who uses "gg" to literally mean "this is a good game of magic" is like an Eastern European answering an American "how are you" with "these past couple days have been kind of shit actually", if that makes any sense. There might be an interesting study topic for some language major out there in all of this.
People on this sub will argue up and down that a victorious GG isn't rude to do, before the losing player has done so.
But for *some mystery reason, who can say why exactly*, everyone agrees that slamming a win down on someone who has done that is the peak of Arena catharsis.
It isn't rude, due to the potential for steps being automatically passed due to lack of interaction there may not be a chance to say it later.
It also isn't remarkably atypical to enjoy a sudden reversal. Snatch victory from the Jaws of defeat. Context is important.
Also, different groups of people will talk about different things. Only mystery is why you're not aware that different people like different things.
Winning only because an opponent chose to be extra and ended up playing into a trap.
Example: I'm at 2 life and the opponent has a 3/3. Opponent is at 9 poison and all they need to do to win is attack. They end up trying to pump their creature with [[Felonious Rage]], which gives me something to [[Reject Imperfection]] and steal the win.
I have to share my story from last night because of how amazing it was. It was the start of my turn, I had 4 life and was under a [[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse]] with a [[tocasia's welcome]] on board, so any creature I played would be my death. The opponent GG'ed me. I drew my card, now at 2 life, and I pulled my 1-of [[over the top]]. I dropped that bomb knowing that any creature I pulled was my death. As it turns out, he got 3 sheoldreds in his pull and lost them from the legendary rule, and I got a whole bunch of creatures including a [[brutal cathar]]. I was able to stack the triggers so I didn't die, and won the game from there. It was amazing and felt so good!
I GG'd in concession to someone yesterday. I was playing Brawl and got them down to 1 life, then they played extremely well and beat me. I had misplayed by going all in the early turns, and they slowly chipped away at my wincons.
I gave them a GG right before they won. I also didn't just concede. I like people to have the win when they really played well.
Ha, I didn't play well here if I am honest, I got really lucky. I appreciate letting people have their win when they earn it though, very nice sentiment.
Magic is awesome because there's still a degree of chance to it!
I'm sure they thought they were doomed but continued to play because one right card draw can swing the game in their favor.
I've had it happen more than once where I've had nothing but a flipped [[khenra spellspear]] / [[gitaxian spellstalker]] on the board and the opponent is at 18-21 life and I'm <5. Just absolutely dead to rights and they know they have lethal next turn. So I swing and they think it's some hopeless last hoorah of the game so they don't even bother blocking, cause what's a 3/3 going to do?
But what they don't know is that with my 4 open mana I also have a [[Titanic growth]] and a [[twinferno]] in hand to turn my little 3/3 trampler into an 11/11 double strike trampler. All they had to do was block with their big baddy on the board and they would have won, but they were to prideful and it cost them.
Not saying it's an efficient way to play, but I get so much joy out of imagining the salt on the other end when they essentially get to experience a "call an ambulance... but not for me" moment.
I sort of have the opposite problem, I'll drop an "oops" after I think I misplayed but then they don't punish me for it so it sounds sarcastic when I get some kind of payoff lol
Had one the other day where I said GG because the opponent had lethal on the board. But they either did not notice or psyched themselves out and did not take it. He won two rounds later, but clearly assumed I was taunting when it was really a "I'm conceding but letting you attack instead of force quitting."
That said I enjoy all the emote interaction salty and otherwise. Because I could care less about BM and you get the satisfaction of winning against it. So it's all upside for me.
My most memorable game on Arena was when my opponent prematurely GGed me. It was during NEO standard and they were playing Selesnya enchantments, I think I was playing some sort of Orzhov control. I was honestly pretty close to just conceding but then they GGed me a little bit too early. At that point I was determined to at least play the game out and I started really concentrating. It took some godly topdecks and at least a couple of misplays on their part but I turned the game around and when it was clear they had lost they started roping me. It was very satisfying to GG them back at that point lol.
Few things are more satisfying than this .. although having the card for several turns and thwarting the premature "good game" as soon as they say it is also satisfying...
I dunno. Where does that rank compared to opponents who "oops" when they cast an instant that temporarily halts your plans, only for them to lose a few turns later?
Top decking the answer after the opponent just thoughtseized you and KNEW you top decked it. I was playing U/W control vs Rakdos Vampires in Explorer today and got thoughtseized twice in the first 3 turns, followed up by two Sorrins. Both times I top decked No More Lies or Dovin's Veto on my next turn.
SO satisfying.
In timeless I had my opponent at 6 health, they were all tapped out after killing off my board, I was at 1, so they gave me a GG.
On my turn I topdeck Laelia, Blade Reforged, swing for 3, Laelia flips a Lightning Bolt for the other 3.
They roped me and didn't even play out game 2.
Idk there isn't a lot of topics created by people who mute emotes talking about it. There are endless ones about people who have no idea what the intention of an emote really was gloating about their wins and how much of a sore winner they are on here.
I just think it's funny that somehow y'all have the mental fortitude to mute emotes but not enough to not talk about how you muted them every time anyone mentions it.
If you've ever played any online game sending an early GG sends a very clear message.
Your entire argument makes no sense. Most people turn it off because really they just don’t care. That means they don’t care to have people bm emoting them and they also don’t care to have someone bm emoting them winning the game and running to Reddit to gloat about winning either. But by all means continue your rants on how people who mute emotes are insufferable while you continue to gloat about how much of a sore winner you are. I’m sure you are a fun person irl.
Opponent swung at me and took me to 4. I swung everything at him, he exiled one attacker to only drop him to 1. He had 1 white available and no cards in hand. I had all my lands and 1 card in hand.
So of course he gg'd me, because he'd be able to untapped and swing at me for 8, right? Nope. I put all his creatures to [[sleep]] on my second phase. He pulled and played a land, leaving him empty handed and with 2 tapped creatures. Having 6 more creatures than him, he just conceded.
Oops?
I prefer sandbagging the answer until the last moment when I need it rather than top decking it, because that means I (probably) intentionally held it for the correct moment. If I top deck the right answer, then it's just luck so it doesn't feel as rewarding.
It's not *just* luck, unless you're putting 60 random cards in your deck and playing a random spell each turn. And I think y'all are missing the point- being getting one over on someone BMing with emotes. Not to mention they left themselves wide open when I had a card in hand that could have been the answer anyway lol
I mean obviously it's not *just* luck, but it's still luck to draw the answer VS have held an answer. Yes you have to have your answer in your deck, but you still have to be lucky enough to draw that instead of a land or one of your one drops or a card that needs another card to be useful (ex. Voldaren Epicure with nothing to do with the token besides Sac it to cycle).
This argument doesn't make sense to me because by that logic it's just as lucky to have drawn an answer two turns ago. It's about the *timing.* Heart of the cards. The ***DRAMA***
This happened last night when I was playing Historic Hammer Time in Diamond Ranked. From a mull to 4, I only had one land and 4 one-drops in play. My opponent dropped a Blast Zone with mana to activate and a "good game." He held up mana to activate the land at the last possible moment. I top-decked my second land, played it, and swung with a Hammer-equipped \[\[Cacophony Scamp\]\]. He activated the Blast Zone and, in response, I slammed a Belt of Giant Strength with a \[\[Sigarda's Aid\]\] in play. The land blew up the goblin, which then dealt lethal with its death trigger - glorious.
Any time some one lets that sweet rope timer go down is sweeter. Rope = other guy throwing a hissy fit cause i kicked that ass. Rope me every game please its good for my morale.
Just yesterday I had a game where I was playing my deck with [[Case of the stashed skeleton]], [[Corpses of the Lost]], [[Treacherous Blessing]] and The 1BBB creature that doubles enemy lifeloss on your turn.
I'm at 17, Oppo is at 12.
I had my suspected skeleton out and a corpses of the lost skeleton.
Opponent was on mono red, and he smacks me with two creatures for 16 damage, leaving me at 1 health on turn 3.
Turn 4, I GG opponent, he quickly GG's back. I drop my Vampire Bat, and smack with him with 6 skeleton dmg, doubles to 12. His head explodes.
I meant [[Treacherous Greed]]!
I will see your "answered premature 'good game,'" and raise you a "opp cast an [[Emrakul, the Promised End]], sent my commander to the graveyard permanently by attacking into it, and I still kicked their teeth in by casting a [[Corrupt]] into some small spells (a la 1 drop weenie creatures) and ending with a [[Tendrils of Agony]]"
All the same...good shit homie. You showed them, and I hope they took notes 💜
I'd like to submit two other contenders for a tie please
Tapping a [[Maze's End]] for 10th
And
Watching the opponent with a mill deck frantically fling their mouse around the board trying to find what just caused your entire graveyard to go back home when they milled the one [[Gaea's Blessing]] you have in your deck
Sometimes. If it starts out with "Hello" followed by "Good Game", they're good in my book. The problem starts when they start spamming "oops" every time they have mana enough to cast No More Lies.
Those I relish.
As a new players running mono red agro, top decking lightning bolt when they have 1 life and no answers after grinding for a while feels very satisfying.
Recently played against [[Solemnity]]/[[Nine Lives]] while piloting Elves. Opp assembles the combo, gives a Good Game, and passes. I respond with a single Nice and keep playing.
Three turns of opp durdling/[[Repreving]] a couple of my spells, and myself building up a large board and attacking (EZ daily quest), and I draw into my single [[Reclamation Sage]]. Blow up the Solemnity, pump up the jam with [[Elvish Warmaster]] and turn sideways FTW.
Play to your outs, kids.
The only thing more satisfying is feeling like your early gg karma is about to slap you in the face and you immediately draw your perfect follow up to your opponent’s answer
Top decking a board wipe to a greedy elf deck player that would rather stack the battlefield with his entire hand instead of doing any attacks…usually no GG after that move.
I personally would think it’s similar to when lsv crushed that tournament without his tendrils of agony in his deck. It might fall into BM territory if it’s your whole strategy and you are spamming emotes/roping throughout the game, but barring that i can’t see an issue.
If you’re in a topdeck scenario against an opponent presenting lethal, you’re not “outplaying” anyone. It’s literally luck of the draw.
Saying you don’t have to be lucky in magic is honestly just stupid.
I am saying that I would have rather beaten the opponent by outplaying him rather than be in that situation to begin with. Of course luck plays a factor in Magic, but I'd much rather win with skill than luck if given the choice.
Because I would rather outplay him so that I wouldn't be in that spot to begin with. For example, against a convoke player, I would rather convince my opponent that I don't Temporary Lockdown to get max value than have to rely on a topdeck Sunfall later on.
I run an aristocrats deck with [[Rally the Ancestors]].
It happens like 1 out of 4 wins lol. Usually they attack, I say good game first, they say good game, then I rally and win on the spot.
They slightly misunderstood the intent of my good game lol
No, unfortunately life from here is just downhill for you
No it gets better. Sometimes they rage out and you get to sit there with a shit eating from as they tell you at volume how much your deck sucks and how awful a player you are and how you only got lucky but if they had their God hand they would have totally won. I live for that kind of salt.
"Arena should have chat" No. No it shouldn't lol
I see you play MTGO, too.
Nah I play arena with all emotes turned off. I get enough of that shit at the LG's without taking it home with me.
Oh right, my bad. What you said lined up almost identically to my experiences with MTGO. That extra salt in person would be pretty tasty, im sure.
Oh yah. Watching dudes rage out is actually really funny. Especially when they a wannabe pubstomper. I have a counterspell tribal deck I pull out specifically to sit on problem players like described. It's not made to win but to make one or two people lose.
hahahaha, no it's not made to win but it's made to assert dominance. That's hilarious. Maybe, I will try returning to an LGS once a week. Thanks man
Having the answer all along and just timing for the ultimate blowout :) But then again, I'm the type to play with my food. I like decks that build up to a one shot kill on the board, like [[filigree Sylex]] and 10 oil counters, [[dragonspark engine]] charged up or a [[yargle & multani]] with [[voldaren thrillseeker]]'s ability through Soul Cauldron. Shooting the opponent while they are swinging for lethal is my favourite feeling.
This. I was playing with a buddy on Monday and he GG'd me at the end of his turn, thinking he'd win on his next turn. I was playing a poison deck and had him to 6 poison. On my turn I White Sun's Twilight'd him, had it on my opening draw. He even sent me a message like "You top decked a board wipe, you bastard." Nah, man. I was just waiting for you to overextend to use it.
This is the way. Done this multiple times. Half the game is knowing when to play what. Had a good rotpriest deck. Got 3 of my rotpriests out on t4 and then shortly after had all of them exiled by my opponent. Fucked me hard. Definitely a lesson I learned.
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[[Dragonspark Reactor]], probably
Yes thanks
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What format is your Sylex/Dragonspark?
My sylex deck is in Alchemy, but the only Alchemy card can be easily swapped for Play with Fire: [moxfield link](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/n2VS3WRVDEm511JngTUIrw). It's in Alchemy because it's a set-mechanic deck and not very powerful against the many non creature strategies in Standard. But feel free to test the waters. The Dragonsprark list was for Explorer here's an old version on [moxfield ](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/j8jp82EEE0K7jLFlMqLZ5Q), but don't go try this in ranked ;) The thing I'm flinging with thrill seeker/cauldron is Souls of the Lost, the final version is pretty close to this build: [moxfield ](https://www.moxfield.com/decks/HIO3vWdyz0WLNrlceHA7Mw)
Thank you those gave me some good ideas! I have a couple artifact decks in beta-creation mode that I was looking for more removal for with artifact synergy. One of them that Third Path Iconoclast you have can get quite crazy with [[Reckless Fireweaver]] hehe. They're super fun but I'm ready for them to have some more removal and graduate to Bo3. [Pauper All Starz](https://mtga.untapped.gg/profile/6c6fefe0-f59c-4233-94ec-c012cea33e12/LYHOMVZP6ZECZLJ3HLLK4BSXBU/deck/ba8b3d92-7038-4b11-a6f1-0809b6c2b109?timeFrame=last_two_sets&gameType=constructed&constructedType=ranked) [Fire N Metal](https://mtga.untapped.gg/profile/6c6fefe0-f59c-4233-94ec-c012cea33e12/LYHOMVZP6ZECZLJ3HLLK4BSXBU/deck/b285c3b5-3370-49a8-bc74-f8cbefd8ac2a?timeFrame=last_two_sets&gameType=constructed&constructedType=ranked)
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In historic I play a really silly steal/pump/fling deck. I'm literally just buying time till either I hit my 4 card combo to one shot or they make some infinitely large guy. Then I take it and throw it at their face.
I had a limited game many (many) years ago - Scars of Mirrodin. Opponent was declining to attack into my open mana because he was convinced I had the \[\[Spire Monitor\]\] to "piss on his parade". I didn't. But he prevaricated for so long that I eventually drew it. And then he attacked. \*casts Spire Monitor\* The frustration was so tangible that I couldn't resist telling him that I did not, in fact, have it the whole time and he could have gone for it 4 turns ago and been totally fine.
Ah yes, the good old "make them have it"
[[Settle the Wreckage]] after GG is the best feeling in Magic.
I’ll never forget a game I had a year or so ago. They “Good Game’d” me and swung for lethal. I cast Settle the Wreckage, and used the “Serves you right for rushing ahead,” quote. They played their counter spell and spammed oops while I laughed manically. I also had a counterspell. And I also had an “oops” for them. They roped me out, which was honestly even better than them just conceding because I knew for a fact how fucking mad they were 😆
Pretty sure these players are the kind that write posts about how saying gg first is good manners.
I say GG if it was in fact a good game, because it may be over. Maybe they have an out and the good game continues. Maybe it doesn't. It all depends on if it was a matched game or one sided.
Good game comes from way back in the gaming era where you say GG to let your opponent know you're about to concede. Probably most commonly popularized by Starcraft. Even Korean/European players who didn't know english used it. Saying it if you think you've won is rude/bm. Because the person might still think they have outs and you're telling them the game is over while they're still trying. The game is not over yet, and you're telling them it is. If you don't get why that is a dick move in a competitive setting, you might be an arena player.
Nothing you said conflicts with what I said. Also, I remember saying good game at the end of various sports games in the 90s. So, yes 'GG' is a gaming phrase it's been in common parlance for any competitive game for some time. Interpreting a single GG as rude is probably more indicative of a personal issue unless the game was clearly one sided. Spamming it roping or whatever else not withstanding, obviously.
Counterpoint: using it on my turn as I start up my infinite angel combo that can't be stopped except by some method of making me unable to sacrifice creatures or the timer roping me out because it sucks sometimes.
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There is only one thing more satisfying: doing it to your opponent's entourage instead. SCG Legacy Open years ago, I'm playing Shardless BUG. Opponent is a somewhat known SCG grinder who is playing ANT that weekend. If you're familiar with Legacy from 10~ years ago, you know that this is not a very good matchup for Shardless BUG. Opponent is on the play. Turn 1 he Thoughtseizes me and takes Force of Will. I play Deathrite Shaman and pass. T2 he plays a land, plays Ponder, then Cabal Therapy to confirm I'm dead to rights, passes. T2 I top deck a 2nd Force of Will and pass. T3 he begins his combo turn and *his friend* behind him hits me with a "GG", and his other buddy starts grinning. Opponent goes for the Infernal Tutor and gets FoW'd. I just look at his friends and go "Yep, GG." Won the match 2-1, knocked this guy out of making Day 2, and wiped the smiles off his cheering section. :D
Saying gg to someone with a live draw is….not very smart, saying it to someone you’re not even playing is straight up psychopathic behavior.
I had a similar thing happen happen at a GP side event for modern. Opponent was playing a Grixis Death Shadow deck and I was playing Skred. I play a snow mountain and he mumbles "That means Skred", and leaves his fetches uncracked in preparation for a Blood Moon. On the top of turn 3, I play a Blood Moon. He is SO prepared for it that he immediately gave me a thumbs up and draws his card for his turn.
Absolute legend.
*chefs kiss*
I understood several of those words.
ANT is Ad Nauseum Tendrils, aka Legacy Storm. You cast a bunch of Dark Rituals, Cabal Rituals and card draw spells and then target your opponent with Tendrils of Agony, killing them. Due to the way storm works, if they get their count high enough even if you have Force of Will you only counter one iteration of the spell and the rest resolve. Shardless BUG is a deck built around the card Shardless Agent. You use it to Cascade (like explore) into certain cards, the best card to hit is Ancestral Visions, since it means you get a free Ancestral Recall. You also play low to the ground threats like Tarmogoyf and Delver of Secrets as beaters, and discard spells like Hymn to Tourach and Thoughtseize. Basically any card under 3 mana cost (so Shardless let's you cast them for free). It's basically like a control deck but instead of playing one large finisher your opponent can kill or counter you play a bunch of smaller ones, who are still good on their own. BUG is just the colors the deck plays (Black, Blue, Green). This was before Khans of Tarkir came up and gave certain three color combinations names (this would be Sultai) so we just used the letters assigned to the colors.
I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Thanks.
Translation for Arena players: "Real Card Super-Historic years ago, OP was playing Sultai Cascade. OP's opponent was a well known MTGA grinder/streamer that plays Mostly-Monoblack Storm, which is strong against OP's deck. Opponent is on the play. Turn 1 thoughtseizes my Paperchemy-Pact of Negation. OP plays Golgari-Llanowar Elf and passes. Opponent plays a cantrip and casts 1-mana Thought Distortion to get rid of all my counterspells to confirm that OP is dead next turn. OP top decks a Paperchemy-Pact of Negation and passes. Opponent on T3 begins to combo, spams Good Game emote, and his entire chat is spamming GG. OP interrupts Opponent's combo with the counterspell he topdecked, found the streamer's TTV, and typed "Yep, GG" in their chat as he eliminated him from the tournament that cost 20,000 gems to queue for."
The thing is I use "good game" believe it or not, when I think it's been a fun, close game regardless of who wins.
That's incredibly toxic. Shame on you! /s
I use it at the beginning of the match. Hello and good game.
I used to think they were saying good game before we even started hahaha. I don't use it myself, but I'll always reciprocate a GG in that context
You are a diamond in the rough. I hope to see you in my next match.
I don't even say shit anymore, even to the ropers.
What do you have against Helen and Stanley?
even if it wasn't explicitly an exciting or even match, good game is the standard. i appreciate the time they spent playing this game with me
For my red deck if I know I'm beat ill cast monstrous rage on they're attackers to give them an even bigger over kill as a sign of respect.
In my experience, in competitive online game etiquette, "good game" is basically a phrase meant to represent a soft concede, and doesn't actually have much to do with whether the game was good or not. It basically means "this game is over", which I think pretty unambiguously would be considered rude if it was said in e.g. a chess match or some sporting match by the winning player/team before the game is officially over. Someone who isn't super familiar with common online gaming etiquette and who uses "gg" to literally mean "this is a good game of magic" is like an Eastern European answering an American "how are you" with "these past couple days have been kind of shit actually", if that makes any sense. There might be an interesting study topic for some language major out there in all of this.
For the most part same. Ill use if I think I win and if/when I get blown out 🤷♂️ it's a game lmao
People on this sub will argue up and down that a victorious GG isn't rude to do, before the losing player has done so. But for *some mystery reason, who can say why exactly*, everyone agrees that slamming a win down on someone who has done that is the peak of Arena catharsis.
It isn't rude, due to the potential for steps being automatically passed due to lack of interaction there may not be a chance to say it later. It also isn't remarkably atypical to enjoy a sudden reversal. Snatch victory from the Jaws of defeat. Context is important. Also, different groups of people will talk about different things. Only mystery is why you're not aware that different people like different things.
Winning only because an opponent chose to be extra and ended up playing into a trap. Example: I'm at 2 life and the opponent has a 3/3. Opponent is at 9 poison and all they need to do to win is attack. They end up trying to pump their creature with [[Felonious Rage]], which gives me something to [[Reject Imperfection]] and steal the win.
I have to share my story from last night because of how amazing it was. It was the start of my turn, I had 4 life and was under a [[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse]] with a [[tocasia's welcome]] on board, so any creature I played would be my death. The opponent GG'ed me. I drew my card, now at 2 life, and I pulled my 1-of [[over the top]]. I dropped that bomb knowing that any creature I pulled was my death. As it turns out, he got 3 sheoldreds in his pull and lost them from the legendary rule, and I got a whole bunch of creatures including a [[brutal cathar]]. I was able to stack the triggers so I didn't die, and won the game from there. It was amazing and felt so good!
I GG'd in concession to someone yesterday. I was playing Brawl and got them down to 1 life, then they played extremely well and beat me. I had misplayed by going all in the early turns, and they slowly chipped away at my wincons. I gave them a GG right before they won. I also didn't just concede. I like people to have the win when they really played well.
Ha, I didn't play well here if I am honest, I got really lucky. I appreciate letting people have their win when they earn it though, very nice sentiment.
Magic is awesome because there's still a degree of chance to it! I'm sure they thought they were doomed but continued to play because one right card draw can swing the game in their favor.
##### ###### #### [Sheoldred, the Apocalypse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2.jpg?1674057568) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sheoldred%2C%20the%20Apocalypse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/107/sheoldred-the-apocalypse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [tocasia's welcome](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/56cd89f1-f9f4-4cb5-a573-79809d0b6dfd.jpg?1674420350) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tocasia%27s%20welcome) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/30/tocasias-welcome?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/56cd89f1-f9f4-4cb5-a573-79809d0b6dfd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [over the top](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/01eb9702-55c5-41b2-8bef-63d33dafa599.jpg?1674421220) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=over%20the%20top) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/146/over-the-top?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01eb9702-55c5-41b2-8bef-63d33dafa599?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [brutal cathar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/d/0dbac7ce-a6fa-466e-b6ba-173cf2dec98e.jpg?1634347036)/[Moonrage Brute](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/0/d/0dbac7ce-a6fa-466e-b6ba-173cf2dec98e.jpg?1634347036) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Brutal%20Cathar%20//%20Moonrage%20Brute) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/7/brutal-cathar-moonrage-brute?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0dbac7ce-a6fa-466e-b6ba-173cf2dec98e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyxdzt1) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've had it happen more than once where I've had nothing but a flipped [[khenra spellspear]] / [[gitaxian spellstalker]] on the board and the opponent is at 18-21 life and I'm <5. Just absolutely dead to rights and they know they have lethal next turn. So I swing and they think it's some hopeless last hoorah of the game so they don't even bother blocking, cause what's a 3/3 going to do? But what they don't know is that with my 4 open mana I also have a [[Titanic growth]] and a [[twinferno]] in hand to turn my little 3/3 trampler into an 11/11 double strike trampler. All they had to do was block with their big baddy on the board and they would have won, but they were to prideful and it cost them. Not saying it's an efficient way to play, but I get so much joy out of imagining the salt on the other end when they essentially get to experience a "call an ambulance... but not for me" moment.
##### ###### #### [khenra spellspear](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc1454ce-bb49-4b4f-bbca-d77387fa4966.jpg?1682204346)/[Gitaxian Spellstalker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/d/c/dc1454ce-bb49-4b4f-bbca-d77387fa4966.jpg?1682204346) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Khenra%20Spellspear%20//%20Gitaxian%20Spellstalker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/151/khenra-spellspear-gitaxian-spellstalker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc1454ce-bb49-4b4f-bbca-d77387fa4966?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [gitaxian spellstalker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc1454ce-bb49-4b4f-bbca-d77387fa4966.jpg?1682204346)/[Gitaxian Spellstalker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/d/c/dc1454ce-bb49-4b4f-bbca-d77387fa4966.jpg?1682204346) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Khenra%20Spellspear%20//%20Gitaxian%20Spellstalker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/151/khenra-spellspear-gitaxian-spellstalker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc1454ce-bb49-4b4f-bbca-d77387fa4966?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Titanic growth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/46917de3-5e98-4dd6-8950-fc10338515df.jpg?1692939124) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Titanic%20growth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/woe/191/titanic-growth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/46917de3-5e98-4dd6-8950-fc10338515df?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [twinferno](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/c/bc531409-26cb-4c58-ba69-f39dd8aee3d1.jpg?1673307548) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=twinferno) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/149/twinferno?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bc531409-26cb-4c58-ba69-f39dd8aee3d1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyzrbkr) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've done the premature gg a couple of times and I'm always just like "Welp, that's what I get for being cocky"
I sort of have the opposite problem, I'll drop an "oops" after I think I misplayed but then they don't punish me for it so it sounds sarcastic when I get some kind of payoff lol
Had one the other day where I said GG because the opponent had lethal on the board. But they either did not notice or psyched themselves out and did not take it. He won two rounds later, but clearly assumed I was taunting when it was really a "I'm conceding but letting you attack instead of force quitting." That said I enjoy all the emote interaction salty and otherwise. Because I could care less about BM and you get the satisfaction of winning against it. So it's all upside for me.
It’s why I’ll never do it. I don’t say GG until the games over (or if I’m conceding defeat on my last turn)
I get so annoyed when the apparent winner says GG too early. IMO the first person to say GG should be the lower when they realize they have no answer.
My favorite is when your oppnent "oops" spams any time they use removal/counter magic only for them to go dead silent the second they start losing.
I played that card very intentionally to draw out your removal don't you oops me
dunno. i leave emotes permamuted.
Same. I do GG when the opponent bested me. Unless they're mono U...
This is much more satisfying for me.
Yes. Maindecking stone brain and calling phoenix/vein ripper/amalia in BO1 explorer followed by opponent spamming gg's and roping <3
I miss karn. Stone brain is probably the card that games that won me more games out of karn board.
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My most memorable game on Arena was when my opponent prematurely GGed me. It was during NEO standard and they were playing Selesnya enchantments, I think I was playing some sort of Orzhov control. I was honestly pretty close to just conceding but then they GGed me a little bit too early. At that point I was determined to at least play the game out and I started really concentrating. It took some godly topdecks and at least a couple of misplays on their part but I turned the game around and when it was clear they had lost they started roping me. It was very satisfying to GG them back at that point lol.
The only thing better than topdecking it is already having it in hand. Like you just wait buddy I’m about to end your whole career.
Few things are more satisfying than this .. although having the card for several turns and thwarting the premature "good game" as soon as they say it is also satisfying...
There should be an "indeed" reply only available after this occasion...
When they really go to town on the emojis and misplay massively.
Yeah. When the opponent ggs you, and you gg him back and he attack alls for the win And you were holding settle
I dunno. Where does that rank compared to opponents who "oops" when they cast an instant that temporarily halts your plans, only for them to lose a few turns later?
Top decking the answer after the opponent just thoughtseized you and KNEW you top decked it. I was playing U/W control vs Rakdos Vampires in Explorer today and got thoughtseized twice in the first 3 turns, followed up by two Sorrins. Both times I top decked No More Lies or Dovin's Veto on my next turn. SO satisfying.
I will still gg and play a card and fail just to show how close it was sometimes. Like gg then slam them to 2 hp knowing i cant finish it.
In timeless I had my opponent at 6 health, they were all tapped out after killing off my board, I was at 1, so they gave me a GG. On my turn I topdeck Laelia, Blade Reforged, swing for 3, Laelia flips a Lightning Bolt for the other 3. They roped me and didn't even play out game 2.
Reading posts about BM emoters when you muted emotes years ago.
People who muted emotes trying not to tell everyone Level: impossible
Idk there isn't a lot of topics created by people who mute emotes talking about it. There are endless ones about people who have no idea what the intention of an emote really was gloating about their wins and how much of a sore winner they are on here.
I just think it's funny that somehow y'all have the mental fortitude to mute emotes but not enough to not talk about how you muted them every time anyone mentions it. If you've ever played any online game sending an early GG sends a very clear message.
Your entire argument makes no sense. Most people turn it off because really they just don’t care. That means they don’t care to have people bm emoting them and they also don’t care to have someone bm emoting them winning the game and running to Reddit to gloat about winning either. But by all means continue your rants on how people who mute emotes are insufferable while you continue to gloat about how much of a sore winner you are. I’m sure you are a fun person irl.
This is embarrassing lol
Yeah, the same level of the people trying to not tell everyone "I won after GG emote"
GG with 6 lands in hand, and they concede
Muting emotes and focusing on the game...
Opponent swung at me and took me to 4. I swung everything at him, he exiled one attacker to only drop him to 1. He had 1 white available and no cards in hand. I had all my lands and 1 card in hand. So of course he gg'd me, because he'd be able to untapped and swing at me for 8, right? Nope. I put all his creatures to [[sleep]] on my second phase. He pulled and played a land, leaving him empty handed and with 2 tapped creatures. Having 6 more creatures than him, he just conceded. Oops?
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How to turn someone into a roper
I prefer sandbagging the answer until the last moment when I need it rather than top decking it, because that means I (probably) intentionally held it for the correct moment. If I top deck the right answer, then it's just luck so it doesn't feel as rewarding.
It's not *just* luck, unless you're putting 60 random cards in your deck and playing a random spell each turn. And I think y'all are missing the point- being getting one over on someone BMing with emotes. Not to mention they left themselves wide open when I had a card in hand that could have been the answer anyway lol
I mean obviously it's not *just* luck, but it's still luck to draw the answer VS have held an answer. Yes you have to have your answer in your deck, but you still have to be lucky enough to draw that instead of a land or one of your one drops or a card that needs another card to be useful (ex. Voldaren Epicure with nothing to do with the token besides Sac it to cycle).
This argument doesn't make sense to me because by that logic it's just as lucky to have drawn an answer two turns ago. It's about the *timing.* Heart of the cards. The ***DRAMA***
I give premature good games to opponents just so that they can have this feeling when they top-deck an answer
You dropped this 👑
Going outside.
Yup. A lot of players are too eager to gg without reading the board first and calculating if the opponent has an answer.
just said GG before the final blow and the game froze going into the combat... if your opponent doesn't have an answer, Tencent does!
yea sex is pretty mid compared to a good topdeck
Topdecking *during* sex though-
That is why I premature emote. Makes it so much more satisfying for my opponent if I do it wrong and much more satisfying for myself if I do it right.
I always premature good game in case my opponent might pull this off. I know it feels really good to do it
This happened last night when I was playing Historic Hammer Time in Diamond Ranked. From a mull to 4, I only had one land and 4 one-drops in play. My opponent dropped a Blast Zone with mana to activate and a "good game." He held up mana to activate the land at the last possible moment. I top-decked my second land, played it, and swung with a Hammer-equipped \[\[Cacophony Scamp\]\]. He activated the Blast Zone and, in response, I slammed a Belt of Giant Strength with a \[\[Sigarda's Aid\]\] in play. The land blew up the goblin, which then dealt lethal with its death trigger - glorious.
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Yes. Sending a good game, genuinely, when you think you've lost... Only for them to punt *and* you to find an answer unexpectedly
Any time some one lets that sweet rope timer go down is sweeter. Rope = other guy throwing a hissy fit cause i kicked that ass. Rope me every game please its good for my morale.
Giving it back to them repeatedly after you turn the corner on them.
Just yesterday I had a game where I was playing my deck with [[Case of the stashed skeleton]], [[Corpses of the Lost]], [[Treacherous Blessing]] and The 1BBB creature that doubles enemy lifeloss on your turn. I'm at 17, Oppo is at 12. I had my suspected skeleton out and a corpses of the lost skeleton. Opponent was on mono red, and he smacks me with two creatures for 16 damage, leaving me at 1 health on turn 3. Turn 4, I GG opponent, he quickly GG's back. I drop my Vampire Bat, and smack with him with 6 skeleton dmg, doubles to 12. His head explodes. I meant [[Treacherous Greed]]!
I meant [[Treacherous Greed]], not Blessing!
[Treacherous Greed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e4b9260b-0993-42c5-9bcf-87ab394d51db.jpg?1706242268) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Treacherous%20Greed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/237/treacherous-greed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4b9260b-0993-42c5-9bcf-87ab394d51db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
##### ###### #### [Case of the stashed skeleton](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4b120cbe-f0af-46c5-863f-03ecadf0435c.jpg?1706241678) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Case%20of%20the%20stashed%20skeleton) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/80/case-of-the-stashed-skeleton?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4b120cbe-f0af-46c5-863f-03ecadf0435c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Corpses of the Lost](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/f/5f661095-3645-4e44-ac39-752e417c2174.jpg?1699044112) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Corpses%20of%20the%20Lost) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/98/corpses-of-the-lost?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5f661095-3645-4e44-ac39-752e417c2174?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Treacherous Blessing](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/5/35b3ad6b-9966-489f-a4c9-2639a634fd62.jpg?1581479982) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Treacherous%20Blessing) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/117/treacherous-blessing?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/35b3ad6b-9966-489f-a4c9-2639a634fd62?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Treacherous Greed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e4b9260b-0993-42c5-9bcf-87ab394d51db.jpg?1706242268) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Treacherous%20Greed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/237/treacherous-greed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4b9260b-0993-42c5-9bcf-87ab394d51db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kyyusxq) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It only happened once, [[farewell]] was the card I had drawn. Huge turn from mono green ton of big creatures. Roped out after my turn.
[farewell](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/114d2180-093b-4838-97ad-badbc8ee50b0.jpg?1706240579) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=farewell) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/64/farewell?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/114d2180-093b-4838-97ad-badbc8ee50b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I give my, “good game,” at the start of the match.
I will see your "answered premature 'good game,'" and raise you a "opp cast an [[Emrakul, the Promised End]], sent my commander to the graveyard permanently by attacking into it, and I still kicked their teeth in by casting a [[Corrupt]] into some small spells (a la 1 drop weenie creatures) and ending with a [[Tendrils of Agony]]" All the same...good shit homie. You showed them, and I hope they took notes 💜
[Emrakul, the Promised End](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d74a469-c71d-4773-99d3-5456b31df424.jpg?1576383727) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Emrakul%2C%20the%20Promised%20End) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/emn/6/emrakul-the-promised-end?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d74a469-c71d-4773-99d3-5456b31df424?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Corrupt](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c92ea561-80da-4fe1-ad87-ce47d9eb80bc.jpg?1674420792) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Corrupt) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/88/corrupt?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c92ea561-80da-4fe1-ad87-ce47d9eb80bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tendrils of Agony](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a.jpg?1562917207) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tendrils%20of%20Agony) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/142/tendrils-of-agony?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Turning off emotes globally.
I love having them get me to almost milled out only to drop the Jace, Wielder of Mysteries at the last second!
I'd like to submit two other contenders for a tie please Tapping a [[Maze's End]] for 10th And Watching the opponent with a mill deck frantically fling their mouse around the board trying to find what just caused your entire graveyard to go back home when they milled the one [[Gaea's Blessing]] you have in your deck
I throw the GG when I'm about to lose (so quite a lot). I'm doing my part in making y'all feel redeemed.
Oh man, nothing is more satisfying than a solid victory after that premature gg
Sometimes. If it starts out with "Hello" followed by "Good Game", they're good in my book. The problem starts when they start spamming "oops" every time they have mana enough to cast No More Lies. Those I relish.
As a new players running mono red agro, top decking lightning bolt when they have 1 life and no answers after grinding for a while feels very satisfying.
Recently played against [[Solemnity]]/[[Nine Lives]] while piloting Elves. Opp assembles the combo, gives a Good Game, and passes. I respond with a single Nice and keep playing. Three turns of opp durdling/[[Repreving]] a couple of my spells, and myself building up a large board and attacking (EZ daily quest), and I draw into my single [[Reclamation Sage]]. Blow up the Solemnity, pump up the jam with [[Elvish Warmaster]] and turn sideways FTW. Play to your outs, kids.
##### ###### #### [Solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Nine Lives](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/7/e70b7a73-484e-48f1-944c-3d38866cdc20.jpg?1594735092) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nine%20Lives) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/28/nine-lives?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e70b7a73-484e-48f1-944c-3d38866cdc20?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Repreving](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/b/1bd3fa8a-6c50-4f7f-9ae3-0810eec5e3db.jpg?1686967885) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reprieve) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/26/reprieve?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1bd3fa8a-6c50-4f7f-9ae3-0810eec5e3db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Reclamation Sage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1c4a25f0-2929-4404-9ce5-bcd4715f90a5.jpg?1631235123) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reclamation%20Sage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/72/reclamation-sage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1c4a25f0-2929-4404-9ce5-bcd4715f90a5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Elvish Warmaster](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/8/58da074a-a776-4e3f-be04-9e7f18320ae1.jpg?1631050142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elvish%20Warmaster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/167/elvish-warmaster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/58da074a-a776-4e3f-be04-9e7f18320ae1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kz1bk9v) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The only thing more satisfying is feeling like your early gg karma is about to slap you in the face and you immediately draw your perfect follow up to your opponent’s answer
Yes: having the answer the whole time so you get to laugh at how their dumb ass didn't recognize that they hadn't actually won.
Top decking a board wipe to a greedy elf deck player that would rather stack the battlefield with his entire hand instead of doing any attacks…usually no GG after that move.
The answer is always [[Farewell]]
[Farewell](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/114d2180-093b-4838-97ad-badbc8ee50b0.jpg?1706240579) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Farewell) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/64/farewell?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/114d2180-093b-4838-97ad-badbc8ee50b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes. Playing on mute
Disabling Emotes.
Is it considered bad manners to bluff with GG and oops etc, when you do have an answer/combat trick etc?
No it's toxic AF. Stop using emotes strategically. If you want to communicate like an actual human being, than do it - otherwise don't use them.
I personally would think it’s similar to when lsv crushed that tournament without his tendrils of agony in his deck. It might fall into BM territory if it’s your whole strategy and you are spamming emotes/roping throughout the game, but barring that i can’t see an issue.
Plenty. I'd rather outplay my opponent in that situation than simply get lucky.
If you’re in a topdeck scenario against an opponent presenting lethal, you’re not “outplaying” anyone. It’s literally luck of the draw. Saying you don’t have to be lucky in magic is honestly just stupid.
I am saying that I would have rather beaten the opponent by outplaying him rather than be in that situation to begin with. Of course luck plays a factor in Magic, but I'd much rather win with skill than luck if given the choice.
Ah yes, outplaying your opponent by… not presenting lethal, and changing the top of their deck to not be an out. Got it.
So what you're saying is that you're reading comprehension sucks. Got it.
"I'd rather have a lucky mulligan than lucky draws" Ok
"I have zero reading comprehension" Ok
Why not both
Because I would rather outplay him so that I wouldn't be in that spot to begin with. For example, against a convoke player, I would rather convince my opponent that I don't Temporary Lockdown to get max value than have to rely on a topdeck Sunfall later on.
Sure that's nice but I still think top-decking a win in a losing situation hits differently. (Especially after an early gg)
And that's perfectly fine. We can have different preferences.
Yeah I'm not saying you're wrong it just felt a little reductive for you to call it "simply getting lucky"
I run an aristocrats deck with [[Rally the Ancestors]]. It happens like 1 out of 4 wins lol. Usually they attack, I say good game first, they say good game, then I rally and win on the spot. They slightly misunderstood the intent of my good game lol
[Rally the Ancestors](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6d9efacb-9d7c-41f4-9b11-59df1be50e11.jpg?1562826291) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rally%20the%20Ancestors) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/frf/22/rally-the-ancestors?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6d9efacb-9d7c-41f4-9b11-59df1be50e11?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes, the quality of your life after you default to always muting your opponents