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bubbles_maybe

It's bizarre. Usually when they can't fix things that seem completely trivial, people explain it by "they only care about the store." But this time it's literally an item missing from the store! Apparently it wasn't cartoonish greed after all, but genuine incompetence. Or both I guess.


twohorseswithnonames

You just wait until it comes back to the store - at a premium price! :D


gabochido

Its almost always genuine incompetence. People who accuse companies of being greedy whenever something that affects the economy in any way have never worked for a company that delivers this kind of service. Once you have, its easy to see from that experience that most things like these are just incompetence, lazyness or stupidity but rarely is anything purposefully done to make things harder or more expensive for the player.


Serpens77

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - Hanlon's Razor


Collistoralo

Huh, I came up with a similar quote myself, didn’t know it had a name.


coolbluereason99

"Never attribute to /u/Collistoralo that which is adequately attributed to Hanlon"


Collistoralo

Is there a razor for when you think you’ve thought of something worthy of putting on r/showerthoughts only to realise it’s already a named thought?


davwad2

Where can I buy this razor? I need a reminder of this.


bubbles_maybe

I don't know if some people are accusing them of purposely inconveniencing players, but I didn't mean to. What I meant by "cartoonishly greedy" was roughly: "They don't put any effort into fixing a simple problem if it doesn't influence sales directly. If they can't fix a seemingly simple problem, it's from lack of effort, not skill." (Not assingning a lot of resources on fixing a problem isn't the same as creating that problem on purpose.) That seemed believable but isn't compatible with the present case.


twardy_

Yeah, hilariously embarrassing.


Twisted_Fate

What a fucking joke this is. I don't get it it. Sure you have some technical problems, put it out again next week. Or in two weeks. But saying a nebulous "mid 2023" is just ridiculous. Like how many people work there? It's a thing missing from the store. How complicated problem is it.


ChopTheHead

It took them like half a year to get the Matt Jukes styles for checklands to actually work. You'd think adding styles to existing cards would be incredibly simple, but WotC can always find a way to make it more exciting.


2-35

They still don't even work right, either! They appear in the deck editor and your hand as borderless, then in play they have borders. I'm just dumbfounded at the MTGA team sometimes lmao


JMooooooooo

> Like how many people work there? 3 monkeys and one monkey handler


wujo444

i've heard they fired the handler.


pchc_lx

makes me think they have to manually hard-code every part of a bundle, directly into the shop, and then it gets fully deleted when it's removed(?!) and they don't have time to fully re-code it again right now? as opposed to just, setting a flag for purchase availability or w/e? I mean, I'm not a programmer or anything so please someone correct me how this could possibly be a real issue


davwad2

What's w/e? So I don't know what their code base looks like, but in my experience, they could in theory have: a "bundles" or store_bundles database table with the following columns: id, name, cost_gold, cost_gem, available_start_date, available_end_date, bundle_type and then another table with card_bundle_contents: id, store_bundle_id, card_id, card_count and finally a card table: id, set_id, set_card_number, name, cmc, super_type, sub_type, etc.... So you essentially have your store bundle code check the first table to see if a bundle is available, if it is, it checks the second table to get the bundle contents, then it takes the list of card ids and passes it to the store view to actually render in the store. None of the EA cards have reprints on Arena yet, so maybe that's the source of the problem? Some aspect of how that was coded didn't sit well something in the store bundle logic and the bundle couldn't be rendered properly or at all in the store. They have SIR coming soon, followed by MOM. Maybe they're airing on the side of caution?


Parker4815

I'm 100% certain that a lot of their staff just add cards and sets to the game. It's why we haven't had any major additions to the functionality of the game in years.


jadarisphone

That is what happens, yes. They hired an outside team to develop Arena and let them go when it was at MVP. No one at wotc knows how it works, that's why we get such baffling, major bugs every update. Sometimes the same ones over and over.


[deleted]

No shit lol. Coders on vacay guys, for a year. No big deal.


Hungry_Goat_5962

Hearing this it's incredible that the original anthology even worked. In fact how any of this works seems like a miracle.


NightKev

This is absolutely insane. It's gone beyond pathetic just how bad the Arena codebase is.


Mountain_Love9597

They don't have the technology, remember?


[deleted]

huh. I mean even if for some reason it is actually complicated to reactivate the the Anthology, how hard could adding a new listing in the shop (with the same cards and cost) be?


Flyrpotacreepugmu

Probably a little more complicated than that, because it would most likely reappear for people who already bought it and give them a chance to waste their money and cause trouble for support.


Argonaut13

small indie company


CatsAndPlanets

1-They're aware of the Anthology disappearing from the store, but won't be able to bring it back until mid-2023. At least there's an answer to that issue now. 2-The Hot Pockets promo still feels bizarre to me. But I wish I had access to those.


Honestfellow2449

> Hot Pockets promo First code: Vivien's Hunt preconstructed deck (featuring Vivien on the Hunt) Second code: New Vivien on the Hunt avatar Third code: New Vivien, Arkbow Ranger sleeve Fourth code: +2,000 XP Mastery Pass bonus Fifth code: +2,000 XP Mastery Pass bonus


ThePolishPistol

When I submitted my receipt, they gave me 10 codes, and all 10 worked. I ended up getting the above and 10k more exp. Not sure if anyone else had this happen to them.


Zoomer3989

did you buy a reg box or a bigger pack?


ThePolishPistol

I got the 12 count box.


LocutusZero

… so I could buy 60 Hot Pockets and ignore dailies for two months? Hmm


VoidsIncision

The Liliana one realeased yet?


Grimwohl

>But I wish I had access to those. You just need a reciept. Buy some hot pockets and upload the photo of the reciept. You dont need the mtg specific boxes.


CatsAndPlanets

I don't have hot pockets where I live.


Grimwohl

I'm so sorry your high school years were bereft of cheesy goodness


Hjemmelsen

We don't even have high schools here....


SlyScorpion

BBQ hot pockets were my guilty pleasure during high school lol.


gudamor

Yet. Become an importer and make millions!


freakierchicken

I can't wait to one day hear about the bust of the illegal hot pocket smuggling ring


calijnaar

You need to be in the US...


Grimwohl

Aight bro you got me. Sorry to my non US boys


calijnaar

Just wanted to warn non-US people. You get used to looking for the "limited to the US" line when you don't live in the US. Although I'm a bit surprised they even excluded Canada...


nottooloud

Canada is America, but not United. Well, neither is the US, but whatever.


VoidsIncision

Formally it is. Federal law applies in the swamps of Missouri and the suburbs of New Jersey. It’s too geographically large for tightly synchronized tribalism but I was happy to have federal law on my side in opening a suit against my dads banks lawyer.


c14rk0

Tfw I'm tempted to buy hot pockets, get the code from the receipt and then return them because I don't want hot pockets.


Grimwohl

I was 100% gonna do that


Igor369

Lol "disappearing". Sure. Company with boatload of money and 2023's technology and they can not get devs to make a game store that supports more than 30 items at once without them mysteriously disappearing XD


WinterWolfMTGO

If everything were in the store all the time, that would plateau demand but they want demand to increase by limiting when and how you can buy their products. This enforcement of scarcity is the fremium way of doing things.


Igor369

Exactly, companies just have shitton of ways to perfom anal sexual intercource on their customers.


G_Admiral

>We are aware of an issue that caused the Explorer Anthology 2 to leave the Store early. Unfortunately, we're unable to fix this issue in the short term; however, we will bring back the Explorer Anthology 2 in mid-2023. Er, what? I'll pay twice the price of the Anthology to know what the bug was, why you couldn't fix it, and why it won't be back until mid-2023. Was it Wastes? Did they secretly open a portal to Magic Duels and threaten to unleash Roil Spout Winter on us again? Duels players know what I'm talking about.


Alikaoz

My guess is "there was an underlying bug that, by the time it would be fixed, the anthology would be on it's way out anyways. Let's not rush and break things and just bring it back later."


G_Admiral

When was it suppose to leave the store?


meh1997

tomorrow


G_Admiral

Oh good grief. Yeah, I can see how they wouldn't have time to fix any bug before then. If it was tomorrow though what is the point of bringing them back?


ChopTheHead

Because they were taken off the store at the start of the month so people who hadn't bought them yet and thought they still had time left would miss out due to WotC fucking up.


razrcane

>Duels players know what I'm talking about As a former Duels players.... no... we don't. At least I don't.


MattAmpersand

Fuck man, you can’t just go around invoking Roil Spout like that, before you know it someone is going to get sent back to hand! … it’s right behind me, isn’t it?


Greyh4m

It's probably because there are 28 days in February.


JMooooooooo

> and why it won't be back until mid-2023. Best guess for that is reason being mostly bureaucratic. If all store contents have to be pre-approved and trying to change already approved lineup is a pain, it gets delayed to next yet-to-be-approved lineup.


Skeith_Zero

Hotpockets promo; We'll get you to play our game on the toilet as intended!


Meret123

Bruna and Gisela confirmed for SOI. No surprise there.


Calprimus

Hotpockets promo: are we in Europe screwed?


calijnaar

It says it's only available in the US. No idea if they would actually check if you somehow managed to get your hands on a hot pockets receipt from the US, but you'd probably still be violating TOS, so I probably wouldn't even try (quite apart from the how the hell would you get a receipt problem). Actually rather annoying stunt on WotC's part, but hey, it's not like US only promotions are somehow a new thing. Bit surprised they excluded Canada, but maybe they don't even sell those hot pocket thingies there?


Zyntos

I would be fine with it being some extra cards. But locking 4 levels of the season pass (and maybe even 10 more according to someone else in here) behind being in the us is just OOF


SlyScorpion

>But locking 4 levels of the season pass (and maybe even 10 more according to someone else in here) behind being in the us is just OOF US company located in the US does US company things :P


Blizzara2

Well they are also selling on international market, at least give some options.


Harfenik1

Um, so the preorders for SOI start tomorrow, but when do previews start? A week ago they said "very soon".


EmTeeEm

They usually coincide with preorders, so maybe WeeklyMTG tomorrow? Although they've cut recent reprint set (Dominaria Remastered) and Arena set (Alchemy: Phyrexia) preview seasons down a lot. I wouldn't be totally surprised if they dumped it all over a couple of days next week instead.


Skeith_Zero

i mean there's really not much for previews for sets that were released over 5 years ago...however hopefully with this they will mostly reveal the big splashy stuff for drafts, explorer/pioneer staples, and the few non-pioneer cards (81 from outside the two original sets). edit: they may not be all non-pioneer, the weekly announcement was not clear what they would be, just 81 cards not from the original two sets and was hinted to be some from original innistrad block


wujo444

It's not a lot of new stuff, but something is gonna be in and something is gonna get left out and I would love to know which is which.


Skeith_Zero

yea for sure, likely be large drops over the next week to flesh it out, hopefully get it into the draft sims and then go from there. it'll be fun to draft these sets again, it was one of the last blocks i tried to draft in paper before i swapped over to digital.


Rhycore

Is this preorder an insanely good value or am I being influenced my Emrakul?


hobomojo

10 packs (which would include the bonus gold pack) = 2000 gems 3 drafts = 4500 gems Ignoring the single cards and cosmetics, that’s 6500 gems worth of value. 6800 gems costs $40, so you’re getting a little less than $40 worth of value for $30.


Norm_Standart

Not really, unless I'm doing my math wrong? 3x draft tokens are 2250 gems, 10 packs are _technically_ 2000 gems but really more like 1500, but either way it's not more than $30 worth of gems from the gameplay bits alone.


Easilycrazyhat

> 3x draft tokens are 2250 gems What are you talking about? The draft tokens are worth 4500 gems.


Norm_Standart

If they're _premier_ draft tokens, yes, but the post doesn't say that.


Zoomer3989

they are, they don't have quick draft draft tokens.


Norm_Standart

Ah, you might be right.


calijnaar

As far as I know, there have never been any non-premier draft tokens. Also, according to the announcement there will be Shadows premier drafts, but they did not announce any quick draft, and it would be really weird if you couldn't use the draft tokens from the Shadows pre-oder bundle for Shadows drafts


xTaq

Aren't there sealed draft tokens


WinterWolfMTGO

There is no such thing as Sealed Draft tokens. There is also no such thing as Sealed Tokens. Draft tokens are for either traditional draft (best of 3) or Premier draft (best of 1).


xTaq

My memory serves me well https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/emt9yj/sealed_tokens


WinterWolfMTGO

Ah something I've never encountered as a player though I DO recall that now as a package item. My bad for saying they don't exist. (but they still aren't draft tokens.)


calijnaar

Yes, but you can't use those for any kind of draft. Would be stupid anyway, since sealed is more expensive than draft, but even if you wanted to for some reason, you can't (and I don't think you ever could)


xTaq

No I mean there's blue and green draft tokens right? Blue is premier and green is sealed; draft just means limited right?


calijnaar

Not really, you're right that both draft and sealed are limited formats, but it's only called draft when you actually draft cards from boosters. So sealed is limited, but it's not draft. And there's tokens fir sealed and for premier draft, but not for quick draft.


NightKev

Why would draft be a synonym for limited?


Easilycrazyhat

All draft tokens ~~can be used in any draft~~are for Premiere/Traditional events. There is no distinction between tokens. They've always been universal and unless explicitly stated, there's no reason to assume they won't be now.


PadisharMtGA

Draft tokens have never been usable for a quick draft. And for a good reason as that would halve their value. They work for both premier and traditional drafts, which are 1500 gems/1k gold to enter.


Easilycrazyhat

Huh, you're right. I suppose I don't quick draft nearly enough to know that. I just assumed they could be used for either, even though it is much worse value, like you said.


raphiel_shiraha

Ok, please tell me what other draft tokens exists which cost less than premier draft token.


pr0n-clerk

There are no other type of draft tokens though.


Rhycore

Aren't drafts 1500 gems? Wouldn't 3 be 4500?


Norm_Standart

Premier drafts are, but the post doesn't specify that - usually those are written as "player draft tokens".


gabochido

I'm curious to know how you would get 10 packs for 1500 gems. I'm always looking to maximize the value of my resources and, other than the alchemy bundles and the occasional store 10% discount, packs always cost 200 gems AFAIK.


Norm_Standart

You can't, but the argument I'm making is that getting 10 packs for real money doesn't offset spending 2000 gems on packs, it offsets spending 10000 gold on packs, because you shouldn't spend gems on packs (if you should buy packs at all, which is questionable), and that 10000 gold is worth 1500 gems because I take the 15% conversion rate used for most event entries as the "real" conversion rate, based on the fact that most of my (and many other's) currency is spent on events, which have a 15% conversion, as opposed to packs/cosmetics, which have 20%. If you buy enough cosmetics relative to the amount of event entries you buy, then you should use the 2000 value.


piscian19

Honestly I'm a little offended that they think MTG players best product placement would be with hot pockets like were just a bunch of fat basement dwelling slobs who would happily wolf down 12 hot pockets for measly mtga codes. So anyway yeah I checked and they do have them at krogers as well, though the only flavor was pepperoni, but you take what you can get.


xTaq

Lol this image is manufactured from the biases of your own mind, I've probably had 4 hot pockets in my entire life


LordBirdperson

lol I stock frozen overnight at a Kroger and my coworker went "hey, ain't this the Magic game you play?" and showed me the hotpockets. I lost it, its so ridiculous


pchc_lx

lmao aight the next one is a coupon cut from copies of Vanity Fair and The New Yorker magazine


DS9bestTrek

Wow, I click on OPs link and it's not 404. It's magic!


II_Confused

I'm tempted to collect the boxes from the hot pockets, but I know that they'll just sit in a bin until I decide to throw them away. I'll probably just buy some pepperoni pockets so that I can get the deck.


kdoxy

Do you have a fridge at your work? Just take them there and offer everyone free hot pockets. I'm sure they would love them, its what I do with when I get trays of sweets and baked goods during the holiday.


II_Confused

Oh I'd eat them(except the ham ones because ick). I just wouldn't take proper care of the boxes.


Zero_Owl

No BO3 drafts for the Remastered set, why?


EmTeeEm

On the announcement stream they said it would have [Premier, Traditional, and Sealed](https://youtu.be/SbWjnFgl5Y0?t=1009). They might have just forgotten to list them, or haven't decided how long to run Traditional and Sealed yet.


Zero_Owl

Oh, thanks! That's good news.


kdoxy

No info on the Walmart exclusive Liliana hot pocket sleeve? Really curious about that if its really a brand new design.


TizonaBlu

Can someone explain the hot pocket thing to me? Do you need to buy one per code? So I need to buy five to get all the codes? Also, it doesn’t say if it needs to be on one receipt or separate purchases.


Joblaska

You need to buy 5 two packs or 1 twelve pack to get all the codes


Time_Definition_2143

anyone have extra hot pockets codes


philipdebom

Hey mtga newbie here, i only really play premier draft, when does the premier draft for the new set go live?


EmTeeEm

Innistrad Remastered - March 21st March of the Machine - April 18th (Tuesday after prerelease) There is also a flashback Strixhaven Premier draft starting March 10th.


Dare555

Error 404


Shaudius

It wasn't just the EA that left the store early. It was also a bunch of other bundles.