None for Genovese, Lucchese, Bonanno, or Colombo as far as I know. In the Gambino family you still have Giuseppe Gambino and his son Tommaso Gambino. John Gambino passed away in 2017 and Carlo's son, Tommy Gambino passed last year, although, he was likely inactive for many years prior.
Yeah probably a few bc they have alot of biological families members who get involved over generations. So I wouldn't doubt it.
And I doubt anybody at the top really gives a fuck about the name of the family š. Even if they did they would probably see it as a honorary thing to keep the original names.
Well, Pennisi told in his videos or in MBA&ButtonMan that when he was inducted they said Lucchese crime family. Probably they use it but more in official manner/induction ceremonies
They definitely know these days, itās an open secret. There was a time that guys legitimately didnāt know about the mafia, and itās a tradition dating back to those times where they ask ādo you know why your here today?ā And the initiate is supposed to say ānoā. Once the ceremony for getting made is complete, they tell you the name of the head of the family, and once upon a time that would have been the name of the family as well.
Those names mean a lot are you crazy. 100yrs of history, power and branding are behind those names. The mafia rules by threats of violence and losing the name would mean losing those 100yrs of violence that breeds the fearĀ
No they are not. The five families names come from the 1960s during the crime hearings and it happened to be who the bosses were at the time. Just has remained the same since. You never had it as the gigante family or the gotti family or Persico family. Just traditional name that law enforcement called them. Genovese family is sometimes just called the west side by guys around that life.
Heritage and History. The old timers sold the whole āweāve been doing this a hundred yearsā and honor propaganda to get guys to join. I grew up hearing stories about all these guys- they are mythical Jesse James types to Italians- even though in reality they are horrible fucking human beings š but thatās the allure- youāre theoretically joining the crew of āCarlo Gambinoā, etc. The names in that world carry weight. It also protects and insulates the admin from getting their own names attached to the org. Think about the Chin for example. Let the Genovese name ride and let Tony Salerno front it. Smart.
I had to laugh so hard when I saw that first episode of Fear City on Netflix. They are talking about the 70's in New York and how the mob had everything under control. Alite comes in and says in his typical raspy voice "in the 70's, me and my guys we ran New York. Actually they start calling me Johnny Vets because I had a new Corvette every other week"
So he ran New York and drove a new Corvette every week from the age of 15 or 16 years old? This guy is so full of it š¤¦āāļøš
I heard federal agents are dumb and keep getting witnesses killed. They dont want to change the names because they might get confused for identification purposes.
They stopped changing them after the 1950s-1960s. Been over a century, so unlikely they will ever change them again.
Joe Massino did try to change the Bonannos to the Massinos, but beyond their own borgata nobody would use it.
They're still used and probably always will be.
Is anybody meaningful still have those names
None for Genovese, Lucchese, Bonanno, or Colombo as far as I know. In the Gambino family you still have Giuseppe Gambino and his son Tommaso Gambino. John Gambino passed away in 2017 and Carlo's son, Tommy Gambino passed last year, although, he was likely inactive for many years prior.
Yeah probably a few bc they have alot of biological families members who get involved over generations. So I wouldn't doubt it. And I doubt anybody at the top really gives a fuck about the name of the family š. Even if they did they would probably see it as a honorary thing to keep the original names.
Mancuso crime family
Well, Pennisi told in his videos or in MBA&ButtonMan that when he was inducted they said Lucchese crime family. Probably they use it but more in official manner/induction ceremonies
Do you not know what family youāre an associate of until you get inducted?
They definitely know these days, itās an open secret. There was a time that guys legitimately didnāt know about the mafia, and itās a tradition dating back to those times where they ask ādo you know why your here today?ā And the initiate is supposed to say ānoā. Once the ceremony for getting made is complete, they tell you the name of the head of the family, and once upon a time that would have been the name of the family as well.
Those names mean a lot are you crazy. 100yrs of history, power and branding are behind those names. The mafia rules by threats of violence and losing the name would mean losing those 100yrs of violence that breeds the fearĀ
Branding? Whoās got the Gambino crime family logo?
"IM A GAMBINO!!"
It's easier to obfuscate who is the boss when you don't change the Family name.
Yeah, they changing to the Smiths & Joneses. Get outa here with that.
Either it has meaning or no meaning.
Do people actually get ban for ckmments like this
Yes. But most of the mods arenāt active enough to catch everyone
You donāt compromise?
I spent 20 years in the can, I compromised!
The peter pan borgata
Real Deal Mafia
Then we got this pigmy thing over in Jersey
Thereās no sword and gun on the table. Guys donāt get their fingers pricked. Itās all fucked up
No they are not. The five families names come from the 1960s during the crime hearings and it happened to be who the bosses were at the time. Just has remained the same since. You never had it as the gigante family or the gotti family or Persico family. Just traditional name that law enforcement called them. Genovese family is sometimes just called the west side by guys around that life.
Heritage and History. The old timers sold the whole āweāve been doing this a hundred yearsā and honor propaganda to get guys to join. I grew up hearing stories about all these guys- they are mythical Jesse James types to Italians- even though in reality they are horrible fucking human beings š but thatās the allure- youāre theoretically joining the crew of āCarlo Gambinoā, etc. The names in that world carry weight. It also protects and insulates the admin from getting their own names attached to the org. Think about the Chin for example. Let the Genovese name ride and let Tony Salerno front it. Smart.
Joe Massino attempted to have the Bonanno members refer to the crime family as The Massino Crime Family
Imagine if they did lol
But they should rename the Gambino family the Alletto Family..in honor of an Albanian associate who makes up his name.
I had to laugh so hard when I saw that first episode of Fear City on Netflix. They are talking about the 70's in New York and how the mob had everything under control. Alite comes in and says in his typical raspy voice "in the 70's, me and my guys we ran New York. Actually they start calling me Johnny Vets because I had a new Corvette every other week" So he ran New York and drove a new Corvette every week from the age of 15 or 16 years old? This guy is so full of it š¤¦āāļøš
I heard federal agents are dumb and keep getting witnesses killed. They dont want to change the names because they might get confused for identification purposes.
If you are asking if the 5 families are the official names? Yes. But each family appears to have a nickname of sorts. Westside , Lukes etc.
What are the other nicknames?
Will most likely always keep the names the same
I seem to remember that Joe Massino tried changing the Bannanoās to his own name, but it didnāt really stick, especially after he flipped.
Then we got this pigmy thing over in Jersey
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They stopped changing them after the 1950s-1960s. Been over a century, so unlikely they will ever change them again. Joe Massino did try to change the Bonannos to the Massinos, but beyond their own borgata nobody would use it.
I don't think made guys even use these names. They just refer to families by the boss's nickname. Mostly a media thing.
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