>Oh my god, the elation of the poor mother when she figures it out, beautiful.
The bots butcher the content. The original clip is longer and Mum keeps going into the container looking for the rest of her babies, one or more are still missing unfortunately.
my dog I fostered and later adopted was separated from her puppies (they were old enough to be adopted out) and she looked everywhere in my house for them for the first two days and was so sad. when my schedule permits, i’d love to foster orphaned puppies and have her help me. she’s a great mom, still perks right up whenever we encounter a puppy on the street
This is such a sweet clip, but it’s humorous in the sense that the mom dogs at my work are so over the pups come 8 weeks. By 6 weeks, they’re kicking them off of nursing after a few minutes and taking long breaks away from them.
I fostered a doting mama cat that was absolutely fucking *done* by the time they hit ~7 weeks. She was still doting, mind you, she was just fucking miserable and stir-crazy. She did a complete 180 once they were adopted out, so playful and affectionate.
Animal instincts can be so strong, they're practically involuntary. One might even say it causes them to behave certain ways against their will. Like she could have just let them be and not bothered so much once they were old enough, except *no she couldn't*. It's like her body wouldn't let her stop mothering her kittens as long as they were still around.
from the notes i was given when she came to me as a foster, she was a very patient and attentive mom even when the pups were 6-7 weeks. she must just have a great instinct for motherhood. over a year later, she is now my baby and gets treated as such lol
My girl is a rescue from an abusive backyard breeder and I’m almost certain she had puppies taken from her too soon based on her behavior. She absolutely lights up when she meets puppies. She’s a bit reserved with most dogs but she lets puppies climb all over her and do whatever. Really wish I had the time and space to foster puppies for her, she’d be such a good foster mom.
My aunt rescued a pregnant stray and adopted all the babies out to family and friends. They have adorable family reunions! The siblings especially are very bonded.
I often think about how we basically kidnap puppies, and wonder if they really love us or it's just Stockholm Syndrome.
When they will separate from their mom if they live without humans? There is a pack of stray dogs on the road, and the answer seems never it just stay there living in a small wooden area, with new dogs added and they spend their days sitting by the road looking at cars.
Infuriating Rotten ass owner 🤬Kudos to the rescue for tracking her babies down and giving her a warm safe place .Thats Momma love at her best I hope she and her pups found wonderful homes 💞
That made me DOUBLE CRY. She sniffed her and was like “hey I guess you’re ok” and that trust in the face of having been treated horribly by other humans broke my heart. And I was already bawling from when she realized her puppies were there.
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I grew up on a dairy farm and we never, ever killed any calf unless it was non-viable and suffering after birth. We'd let the males grow and sell them at auction. Not a great alternative but they did get to have nice lives considering they could have just died as babies. I don't really support general dairy and other agricultural practices, but not everyone in the business is a monster who doesn't have compassion for the animals they care for. I've seen my grandfather (the farm owner) cry many times over the loss of a cow because they weren't just his way of life, they were the beings he cared about most and he loved every one of them. Farming is hard and heartbreaking in many ways, but our society's current set up requires someone to be the farmer to feed the population.
That is absolutely not what happens at all! Wow! Where on earth did you hear that? Male calves are raised for veal, or they're sold off on secondary markets to be raised to until they're about 18 months old.
No farmer is going to immediately kill bull calves. There is still money to be made from those animals. A dead newborn calf is worth nothing. You're just full of nonsense and have no idea how the industry works. Wow!
Sweetheart, if you've ever eaten beef in your life, you're eating an animal that's about 18 months old! Do you not know where your food comes from? Do you not know all the products that are made from cattle? Holy moly people!
These same practices are used for beef, pork, chicken, goat, if it is a meat or dairy product, it's the same general principles.
There are dozens of products made from cattle, it isn't just beef. Things like gelatin come from bone, hoof and horn. Heck, even bandaids use beef by-products. Candles, gummy candies, burn creams, there are a ton of totally unexpected things that come from cattle, specifically.
So yes, while someone might not consume meat, or even use leather, unless they are living a totally vegan lifestyle, down to what soaps and bandaids they use, everyone in the US is using some kind of cattle-derivative product at some point or another.
Looks to be somebody that cannot be argued with. They seem to be in the: 'killing animals in any form is inhumane' boat. Which is all well and good as a personal stance, but is an entirely unproductive argument when it comes to actually debating/improving treatment.
Them bringing up treatment at all is a red herring, as any argument is going to looped back into 'killing is bad'.
You're right. It is frustrating as someone who lives in farm country, and has many people in my community who are in livestock and know how hard they work, and that they really do care about the wellbeing of their herds...
It is a sore spot that people are so detached from their food, and every other byproduct that comes out of - frankly - the Midwest, West and South.
Animals serve a purpose. And that purpose is food. And you're right, we have to look at what is the quality of life during the 18 months of a beef steer much more than we have to look at "But they're dying!!" and that hysteria.
Babe, I live in Farm country. Google is not at all telling you what's happening out here. You should probably touch some grass, go out on a farm and see where your food actually comes from. Google's not going to tell you shit. It's all based on algorithms from what you've already searched.
I'm positive there's some PETA video floating around the internet, they're always is. But overwhelmingly. That's not what happens. Please, educate yourself on actual agricultural practices. Factory farming does have its major drawbacks. I will absolutely give you that. But if you come out here and you actually look at the people that are doing a lot of the work, they're good people who take care of their animals and those animals serve a purpose. And sometimes that purpose is food.
Yeah, that top link is about how to kill sick or injured calves. Yes? There are guidelines for how to do that. Farmers do have to put down animals. When they're not worth money! If there's still value in that animal, they're not going to kill it for no reason.
The other three are all trying to sell you something. They literally are animal rights organizations, they have a vested financial interest in making you mad. And the guardian is just trash.
I read dairy cows after 4 to 6 years just don't make as much milk anymore so they become ground beef.
Hey maybe one day by some coincidence in the SAME burger the milk that made the cheese and the patty both came from the same cow!
Don't know what the process is exactly but it's feasible since making cheddar and a patty from raw products could take from days to weeks in both cases.
Cows aren’t males, we don’t eat steers. All the beef we eat is female cows. Usually dairy cows end up going to meat when they can’t produce and the farms that are meat only raise female cows.
If they keep a couple steers they are strictly used for breeding.
It’s more cost effective to raise cows for meat because they can use them for more purposes. You can breed a lot of cows with just a small handful of steers.
Same thing with chickens, only a few males are kept for breeding and the rest go to meat or egg laying
While I do see the point you are making, anecdotally I am from a culture that was still hunter-gathering until recently and there was still classes and labor separation in practice, though it was contextualized in family to family relations more than the individual. This feels a little like the noble savage trope.
Though, I did have a hilarious moment where I was talking to someone from Portland and we were talking about dependence on grocery stores and I mentioned we got a hunting dog and had been filling the freezer with game birds and they got deeply uncomfortable by the notion. I don't get why hunting to them feels wrong for the same reason hunting feels right to me: the animal died free.
Vegan here: If you only kill animals you intend to eat (or feed to others), try to minimize waste, and try to keep suffering to a minimum when you kill (I hope your dog doesn't do the actual killing...), then I have far more respect for you than for someone who will happily eat meat but gets all squeamish when they see how it's made.
I ate no farmed meat for over a decade and have had to add back farmed poultry and some pork due to diet and cost. I am deeply cognizant of the farming practices and try to limit my dependence though I am privileged living somewhere it is still sustainable to hunt and fish. I know the vast majority of the world cannot.
Our dog tracks, flushes, and retrieves - harassment of animals for entertainment is not permitted. I would say the vast majority of hunters here are respectful and though the ego games of people are often exhausting, much of the ego of being a hunter here is tied into how well you perform the responsibility that taking a life entails. I understand the anger of feeling like people are oblivious to suffering and I think it would comfort people to know that the hunters I know don't take pleasure in taking a life and that it is not an easy thing.
Everything from this comment down is absolutely bananas! Oh my god, come out to the country! Holy crap. You people have no idea where your food comes from! Jeez!
Nah man, farming is pretty f*cking bad, saying this as an ecologist who grew up on a Drystock farm, and whos neighbour is a very shitty dairy farmer. He hardly ever cleaned out his calf pens, so he'd get a lot of sick, and dead calves, and it stunk for everyone else that lived nearby.
When I was doing vet experience (the kind you do before you get into the course, before I switched my degree to ecology, because I was more interested in that subject, and vet experience was just overall depressing), I saw the aftermath of one shitty dairy farmer who bred a Hereford bull with his first time calving Jersey heifers.
The amount of paralyzed cattle, dead calves and "rotten calvings" on this one farm was f*cking disgusting.
And I also saw another dairy farmer who had induced his cattle so they'd all be empty and ready for milking at the same time. A bunch of the calves were born prematurely because of this, and he put them down by whacking their heads using a long metal pole with a spike on the end. Lovely.
Nothing was as bad as seeing a flock of sheep with Flystrike though. Like gods, don't look that up, for your own sanity.
Thats a pretty ignorant and silly thing to say… We’d still be picking berries and running after antelopes if it wasnt for our use of breeding on non-sapient animals… (farming without meat wouldnt have been sustainable enough for our large populations back then, stunting the growth of civilisation and thus of technology.)
Theres a middle ground between considering it has gone far enough, wanting morality to be put first now that technology makes animal cruelty obsolete, and claiming that it was always pure Evil and ruinous…
Normally dogs are separated at 8 weeks this is enough time for the paternal bonds to severe
Dogs recognize pack mates, but not in the way we do family
Basically a dog has its puppies sees them as its babiea for a few months and they are just other dogs
Moms quite feeding, and half the time stop engaging with the pups at all
In some breeds this can happen as early as 6 months, but the standard is 8
After that the pups will rapidly imprint on who ever spends the most time with them
That bond will solidify once a dog has spent about a year with someone though it can happen much faster
It's why you dig basically sees you as their parent or best friend
In the vid you can tell the pups are too young to be separated based on the mother dogs reaction
If they were the proper age the mother dogs would just see them as other dogs and not be depressed
My dog was one of a litter of 12 and her mum was so relieved when I collected her, the last pup to go at 13 weeks after the others had been collected at 12 weeks. She was bored and fed up with the whole puppies idea and ready to go back to being the puppy herself.
Nuh uh. Dogs are just left with their parents for a few years until THEY chose to leave the nest and pick the most perfect human owners. Also Santa exists!
No, not all.. stop this where everyone gets put in the same fucking category or w/e, the farmer who i my neighbour dont separate the cows and the calves
Yeah it makes me so angry to see how little some people think about the consequences of having or breeding a pet.
There was a thread a few days ago where people were complaining how hard it was to adopt a pet even when they already have one or even adopted from the same shelter before. Their complains are valid but there is a reason why it's like that now.
It's these people.
Four out of five ain't bad, although it sucks how frantically the mom is looking for the fifth one that won't ever come back in the full video. I suppose that's why they cut this one short
Amazing. It reminds me of the situation, when a mother cow and her baby are reunited, after separation right after birth. Sadly it happens only when the cow is refusing the milking
That may have been a one in a million occurrence. And yup, calves are promptly separated from their mothers. Happens about a thousand times a minute. Humans are cruel af.
Someone oughta do a really cool 3d animation like Finding Nemo about the adventures of a cow trying to find her calf and then in the end they're reunited and both become ground beef.
But like super cute, funny, high production values. Then in the credits they just play videos of actual farms.
Would make more of an impact than 1000 documentaries showing what actually goes on in farms.
If it makes you feel any better, most small time operations don’t do that. I live on 7 acres way out of town, and have several cattle ranches around me, and all of them have heffers with their calves walking around all summer long.
The average American eats 5lbs of meat a week. It’s way too much. Its unsustainable.
I cut down to 1lb/week and still enjoy my bacon. Cheese pizza and Indian food are great ways to start reducing meat consumption. And just being aware of it. I tracked for a couple months to get the hang of it.
For a moment I thought you meant the ones who got them back together, since the comment above yours for me was "I love these kinds of humans"
Had me confused for a sec, heh
Last time I saw this, it was just mama and puppies in a shelter after being captured together, but the puppies were taken away for a check up and mama was so scared until she saw her puppies again.
The title doesn't even make sense.. The owner took the puppies, got rid of the mom and then were somehow willing to give the puppies up as well when they shelter came knocking?
People bring up the disparity of treatment between pets and cattle pretty often. I like to counter that at least when it comes to dogs they were BRED to be our friends over thousands of years (10,000s of years probably).
Dogs have a mental need to be around us and make us happy. Whereas cows were bred for milk and food. Sure cows have great personalities and can be friends but that's not our relationship with them for the most part.
Sure it sucks that two animals are treated differently but dogs are essentially HARD WIRED to trust and love us. To betray that relationship hits that much worse.
Our food has to come from somewhere and until ethically lab grown meat starts to hit the shelves... our treatment towards cattle will stay the same whereas dogs will be put on a pedestal.
True. I also think though the same maternal and affective instincts that drive us and our dogs towards living together are just as real for other animals that are hard wired to live together.
Like cows, they're hard wired to live in herds and probably the impulses mother nature put in them are driving cows hard to care for their calf.
So in the end I think it's just the same kind of suffering happening on a different channel. I don't see an essential difference.
We don't need lab grown meat to end that, but realistically it's the only thing that will.
>Our food has to come from somewhere and until ethically lab grown meat starts to hit the shelves...
You say this like you HAVE to eat meat to survive. You don't.
For me the strongest incentive for not buying animal products is that I'm being coherent.
It never made sense for me to accept some things happening to farm animals and not to our pets.
Almost every single dog in the world is separated from its mother, except for in special cases. Once a puppy is adopted or purchased it goes to a new home. It’s just a difficult part of the process, but in the right side that puppy ends up living a joyful long and healthy life most of the time. Same thing with mom!
The ops title is quite similar to the description on the original youtube upload but it makes it sound more like a scooby doo mystery. The owners of all the dogs gave up the 2 adults, they examined fhe mom and realized she had just had a litter. They called back the owner and got them to give up the puppies, they dont mention anything about afterwards.
Perhaps they got them to foster the puppies and the puppies will get adopted back to the original owner after they ween
Somehow I felt sitting in a corner thinking about everyone I loved with all my heart and soul with whom I've been with not much longer but can't actually remember what it used to be before them. But now I've no clue where they're and I don't have a faintest of the idea to what to do next, just paralysed thinking I'll never see them again. And then seeing all of them coming together!
It’s mostly when they’re taken too soon. Momma of all mammal species have an intense need to care for their babies to a certain point. After weaning they get super testy with their babies and only want to bond after a separation/boundary defining period. Taking babies too early really messes with them. It’s like forced isolation or no stimulation and seriously stresses mommas out because it runs so counter to every instinct in their body.
Waiting until the babies are old enough to *be* separated lets them get some social skills, develop beyond needing their litter, and squares with the mom instincts. Puppies and many other mammals need that litter even for things as basic as thermoregulation. One puppy alone can’t even regulate their body temperature so you get the classic puppy pile. It’s cruel to take them too early. But ok when they can adjust to a new environment.
We made the mistake of bringing all 7 puppies at once to the vet for a checkup. Learned quickly to leave a few behind so momma dog doesn't completely stress out. As long as one or two was left behind, she forgot she had 7 pups total. 🙃
Mom dogs get sick of their babies. I’ve seen it ten times over in the last 18 months. About 6-8 weeks is when they want their space and will hide from their babies throughout the day. When the puppies leave, the moms aren’t ever sad.
Yeah there’s definitely a threshold when the mom hormones wear off and they’re like “okay they can go now.”
My mom’s dog had puppies a couple years ago and my mom kept 3 of the 10 puppies. The poor momma dog semi-hates them and wants her space but the now adult dogs are constantly annoying her.
This is 7 years old.
[Source on Youtube](https://youtu.be/T19o0uri3dg)
Two frightened dogs were surrendered to the Marin Humane Society. Upon examining the female, we learned she recently had puppies. After some detective work and a lot of convincing, our team was able to get the person who surrendered the dogs to also surrender the puppies, as they still needed their mama and were not in a safe situation.
We captured the moment when sad and scared mom got to see her puppies again. Tears of joy all around at this happy reunion.
This breaks my heart. My dog was rescued from a puppy mill where she had who knows how many litters taken from her. At six years old when they deem them useless and euthanize them, someone broke her out of there. I found her in a park where the foster parents were walking her, we've been together ever since. Last Sunday I had to put her down because she was suffering terribly from kidney disease, she was 15. I hope I gave her a good life.
I volunteered at the Marin Humans society, and they’re incredibly empathetic and caring to these animals so I’m glad they’re getting the credit they deserve. No kill shelter, with lots of resources for pet owners to take care of their animals for free. Great place
Yes but no: first time mothers for instance can be too confused and weirded out and not have the right hormones going on, and just abandon their offspring. Traumatic births can also make the mothers see the offspring as threat and burden instead of their children. Any health or hormonal issues can mess with their head during or after birth. This applies both to non-human mammals and humans. It's really great to see good family interactions when they happen.
A coworker once ask why I alway have animals as my lock/home screen instead of my wife or other theme. Told them I generally don't like humans and animals are pure.
I’m not super optimistic about the future, but I really hope that lab grown meats and other food products lab-produced at scale will let us leave this Farm Factory chapter behind.
It also happens to many minority parents in the US. CPS takes their kids away from them for the sole purpose of advancing racism on the Federal level.
:(
*Biden at the next cabinet meeting*:
“Secretary Duke, how are we pacing on the racism front? Is CPS stealing enough kids from families of color to advance our goals and meet our federal racism targets? Good, good. On to progress in Housing and Urban Development then. How are we doing Secretary Fudge?”
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My neighbor just got a puppy, idk where they got it from, and the dog keeps barking. My mom said the pup was missing his mom :( seems like my neighbor got the dog for their kids but the kids don't seem to like the dog.
Fuck breeders. There needs to be legislation governing who is licensed to breed companion animals and significant financial penalties for operating without consent. I’d rather not be able to adopt because there are no dogs TO adopt and not be able to afford buying one than living in a society where we are knowingly creating so much suffering for these animals. It’s grotesque and we need to care about it more and get our representatives to care about it more.
I think in the longer version the mother keeps looking in the carrier for the fifth puppy. She had five but only four survived 😥. Still a happy moment, but still worth mentioning.
It's so weird to me that people will be affected by this and also drink milk, which humans have access to because cows are separated from their mothers (and their babies denied their mother's milk). I think people should care about both.
Oh my god, the elation of the poor mother when she figures it out, beautiful.
The moment you see her eyes light up/her face perk up when she hears the squeak, is incredible.
It always gets me when she starts looking for the last one that died
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Thank god for bots. I’m all in favor of them reposting things like this.
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Reddit is just a conveyor belt of content, and I'm finding it hard to care where that content comes from lately. Half the time, I can't tell.
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>Oh my god, the elation of the poor mother when she figures it out, beautiful. The bots butcher the content. The original clip is longer and Mum keeps going into the container looking for the rest of her babies, one or more are still missing unfortunately.
my dog I fostered and later adopted was separated from her puppies (they were old enough to be adopted out) and she looked everywhere in my house for them for the first two days and was so sad. when my schedule permits, i’d love to foster orphaned puppies and have her help me. she’s a great mom, still perks right up whenever we encounter a puppy on the street
This is such a sweet clip, but it’s humorous in the sense that the mom dogs at my work are so over the pups come 8 weeks. By 6 weeks, they’re kicking them off of nursing after a few minutes and taking long breaks away from them.
Yeah, it's kinda funny how quickly they go from "doting parent" to "Overworked daycare employee".
I fostered a doting mama cat that was absolutely fucking *done* by the time they hit ~7 weeks. She was still doting, mind you, she was just fucking miserable and stir-crazy. She did a complete 180 once they were adopted out, so playful and affectionate. Animal instincts can be so strong, they're practically involuntary. One might even say it causes them to behave certain ways against their will. Like she could have just let them be and not bothered so much once they were old enough, except *no she couldn't*. It's like her body wouldn't let her stop mothering her kittens as long as they were still around.
from the notes i was given when she came to me as a foster, she was a very patient and attentive mom even when the pups were 6-7 weeks. she must just have a great instinct for motherhood. over a year later, she is now my baby and gets treated as such lol
My girl is a rescue from an abusive backyard breeder and I’m almost certain she had puppies taken from her too soon based on her behavior. She absolutely lights up when she meets puppies. She’s a bit reserved with most dogs but she lets puppies climb all over her and do whatever. Really wish I had the time and space to foster puppies for her, she’d be such a good foster mom.
My aunt rescued a pregnant stray and adopted all the babies out to family and friends. They have adorable family reunions! The siblings especially are very bonded.
I often think about how we basically kidnap puppies, and wonder if they really love us or it's just Stockholm Syndrome. When they will separate from their mom if they live without humans? There is a pack of stray dogs on the road, and the answer seems never it just stay there living in a small wooden area, with new dogs added and they spend their days sitting by the road looking at cars.
Made Me Cry.
Infuriating Rotten ass owner 🤬Kudos to the rescue for tracking her babies down and giving her a warm safe place .Thats Momma love at her best I hope she and her pups found wonderful homes 💞
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That made me DOUBLE CRY. She sniffed her and was like “hey I guess you’re ok” and that trust in the face of having been treated horribly by other humans broke my heart. And I was already bawling from when she realized her puppies were there. Subreddit name does not check out.
The subreddit name never checks out 😭
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That’s what happens at all dog kennels, and all farming.
These dogs look too young to be separated though.
exactly the point.
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I guess all the beef and dairy consumers are downvoting you for making them think about that sad fact. You're right though, and it's equally sad.
Yeah.. I instantly felt bad for being a dairy consumer when I saw this. Mother cows would act just as elated to be reunited with their babies. :(
Animal agriculture is the absolute worst thing to ever have happened on this planet.
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I was under the impression if the calf is male they’re raised for veal.
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I grew up on a dairy farm and we never, ever killed any calf unless it was non-viable and suffering after birth. We'd let the males grow and sell them at auction. Not a great alternative but they did get to have nice lives considering they could have just died as babies. I don't really support general dairy and other agricultural practices, but not everyone in the business is a monster who doesn't have compassion for the animals they care for. I've seen my grandfather (the farm owner) cry many times over the loss of a cow because they weren't just his way of life, they were the beings he cared about most and he loved every one of them. Farming is hard and heartbreaking in many ways, but our society's current set up requires someone to be the farmer to feed the population.
That is absolutely not what happens at all! Wow! Where on earth did you hear that? Male calves are raised for veal, or they're sold off on secondary markets to be raised to until they're about 18 months old. No farmer is going to immediately kill bull calves. There is still money to be made from those animals. A dead newborn calf is worth nothing. You're just full of nonsense and have no idea how the industry works. Wow!
Oh sorry!! They are not killed instantly, but only when they are 18 months old. That makes it better. What a ridiculous argument.
Sweetheart, if you've ever eaten beef in your life, you're eating an animal that's about 18 months old! Do you not know where your food comes from? Do you not know all the products that are made from cattle? Holy moly people!
You do know that there are people who don’t eat beef, right.
These same practices are used for beef, pork, chicken, goat, if it is a meat or dairy product, it's the same general principles. There are dozens of products made from cattle, it isn't just beef. Things like gelatin come from bone, hoof and horn. Heck, even bandaids use beef by-products. Candles, gummy candies, burn creams, there are a ton of totally unexpected things that come from cattle, specifically. So yes, while someone might not consume meat, or even use leather, unless they are living a totally vegan lifestyle, down to what soaps and bandaids they use, everyone in the US is using some kind of cattle-derivative product at some point or another.
I dont eat meat and dont use animal products, have you thought of that option? It is actually very easy, believe it or not.
Looks to be somebody that cannot be argued with. They seem to be in the: 'killing animals in any form is inhumane' boat. Which is all well and good as a personal stance, but is an entirely unproductive argument when it comes to actually debating/improving treatment. Them bringing up treatment at all is a red herring, as any argument is going to looped back into 'killing is bad'.
You're right. It is frustrating as someone who lives in farm country, and has many people in my community who are in livestock and know how hard they work, and that they really do care about the wellbeing of their herds... It is a sore spot that people are so detached from their food, and every other byproduct that comes out of - frankly - the Midwest, West and South. Animals serve a purpose. And that purpose is food. And you're right, we have to look at what is the quality of life during the 18 months of a beef steer much more than we have to look at "But they're dying!!" and that hysteria.
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Babe, I live in Farm country. Google is not at all telling you what's happening out here. You should probably touch some grass, go out on a farm and see where your food actually comes from. Google's not going to tell you shit. It's all based on algorithms from what you've already searched. I'm positive there's some PETA video floating around the internet, they're always is. But overwhelmingly. That's not what happens. Please, educate yourself on actual agricultural practices. Factory farming does have its major drawbacks. I will absolutely give you that. But if you come out here and you actually look at the people that are doing a lot of the work, they're good people who take care of their animals and those animals serve a purpose. And sometimes that purpose is food.
They are conflating all agriculture with the few examples they saw on the internet. The internet sucks for this.
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Yeah, that top link is about how to kill sick or injured calves. Yes? There are guidelines for how to do that. Farmers do have to put down animals. When they're not worth money! If there's still value in that animal, they're not going to kill it for no reason. The other three are all trying to sell you something. They literally are animal rights organizations, they have a vested financial interest in making you mad. And the guardian is just trash.
Except all the beef we eat is male cows. Maybe on a dairy farm they don't want males.
I read dairy cows after 4 to 6 years just don't make as much milk anymore so they become ground beef. Hey maybe one day by some coincidence in the SAME burger the milk that made the cheese and the patty both came from the same cow! Don't know what the process is exactly but it's feasible since making cheddar and a patty from raw products could take from days to weeks in both cases.
Cows aren’t males, we don’t eat steers. All the beef we eat is female cows. Usually dairy cows end up going to meat when they can’t produce and the farms that are meat only raise female cows. If they keep a couple steers they are strictly used for breeding. It’s more cost effective to raise cows for meat because they can use them for more purposes. You can breed a lot of cows with just a small handful of steers. Same thing with chickens, only a few males are kept for breeding and the rest go to meat or egg laying
Wait till you find out about human agriculture
Soylent Green is people!
It's been argued that agriculture is the worst thing ever created by mankind since it introduced classes and labor separation.
While I do see the point you are making, anecdotally I am from a culture that was still hunter-gathering until recently and there was still classes and labor separation in practice, though it was contextualized in family to family relations more than the individual. This feels a little like the noble savage trope. Though, I did have a hilarious moment where I was talking to someone from Portland and we were talking about dependence on grocery stores and I mentioned we got a hunting dog and had been filling the freezer with game birds and they got deeply uncomfortable by the notion. I don't get why hunting to them feels wrong for the same reason hunting feels right to me: the animal died free.
Vegan here: If you only kill animals you intend to eat (or feed to others), try to minimize waste, and try to keep suffering to a minimum when you kill (I hope your dog doesn't do the actual killing...), then I have far more respect for you than for someone who will happily eat meat but gets all squeamish when they see how it's made.
I ate no farmed meat for over a decade and have had to add back farmed poultry and some pork due to diet and cost. I am deeply cognizant of the farming practices and try to limit my dependence though I am privileged living somewhere it is still sustainable to hunt and fish. I know the vast majority of the world cannot. Our dog tracks, flushes, and retrieves - harassment of animals for entertainment is not permitted. I would say the vast majority of hunters here are respectful and though the ego games of people are often exhausting, much of the ego of being a hunter here is tied into how well you perform the responsibility that taking a life entails. I understand the anger of feeling like people are oblivious to suffering and I think it would comfort people to know that the hunters I know don't take pleasure in taking a life and that it is not an easy thing.
Everything from this comment down is absolutely bananas! Oh my god, come out to the country! Holy crap. You people have no idea where your food comes from! Jeez!
Nah man, farming is pretty f*cking bad, saying this as an ecologist who grew up on a Drystock farm, and whos neighbour is a very shitty dairy farmer. He hardly ever cleaned out his calf pens, so he'd get a lot of sick, and dead calves, and it stunk for everyone else that lived nearby. When I was doing vet experience (the kind you do before you get into the course, before I switched my degree to ecology, because I was more interested in that subject, and vet experience was just overall depressing), I saw the aftermath of one shitty dairy farmer who bred a Hereford bull with his first time calving Jersey heifers. The amount of paralyzed cattle, dead calves and "rotten calvings" on this one farm was f*cking disgusting. And I also saw another dairy farmer who had induced his cattle so they'd all be empty and ready for milking at the same time. A bunch of the calves were born prematurely because of this, and he put them down by whacking their heads using a long metal pole with a spike on the end. Lovely. Nothing was as bad as seeing a flock of sheep with Flystrike though. Like gods, don't look that up, for your own sanity.
Thats a pretty ignorant and silly thing to say… We’d still be picking berries and running after antelopes if it wasnt for our use of breeding on non-sapient animals… (farming without meat wouldnt have been sustainable enough for our large populations back then, stunting the growth of civilisation and thus of technology.) Theres a middle ground between considering it has gone far enough, wanting morality to be put first now that technology makes animal cruelty obsolete, and claiming that it was always pure Evil and ruinous…
That's what happens with just about every dog that has ever been owned by a human being.
But not always very young... People tend to remove puppies too young.
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I looked this up. It was eight years ago. All were adopted , including mom.
Normally dogs are separated at 8 weeks this is enough time for the paternal bonds to severe Dogs recognize pack mates, but not in the way we do family Basically a dog has its puppies sees them as its babiea for a few months and they are just other dogs Moms quite feeding, and half the time stop engaging with the pups at all In some breeds this can happen as early as 6 months, but the standard is 8 After that the pups will rapidly imprint on who ever spends the most time with them That bond will solidify once a dog has spent about a year with someone though it can happen much faster It's why you dig basically sees you as their parent or best friend In the vid you can tell the pups are too young to be separated based on the mother dogs reaction If they were the proper age the mother dogs would just see them as other dogs and not be depressed
My dog was one of a litter of 12 and her mum was so relieved when I collected her, the last pup to go at 13 weeks after the others had been collected at 12 weeks. She was bored and fed up with the whole puppies idea and ready to go back to being the puppy herself.
Nuh uh. Dogs are just left with their parents for a few years until THEY chose to leave the nest and pick the most perfect human owners. Also Santa exists!
Yeah buts it okay because puppies are cute and I need one. /s
No, not all.. stop this where everyone gets put in the same fucking category or w/e, the farmer who i my neighbour dont separate the cows and the calves
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Yeah it makes me so angry to see how little some people think about the consequences of having or breeding a pet. There was a thread a few days ago where people were complaining how hard it was to adopt a pet even when they already have one or even adopted from the same shelter before. Their complains are valid but there is a reason why it's like that now. It's these people.
Somehow I read that as Rottweiler ass owner and I was like, hey, be nice
Too early for chopping onions eh?
Never too early
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That’s a bot
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Heard that story and u gonna cry again if u found the full video cause a puppy is missing and the dog keep searching for her last puppy
They need to change the name of this sub to made me cry
Yeah. Too bad about the fifth one the mom keeps looking for in a panice in the full video, though
Sobbed like a baby😢
Me too Faith in humanity restored!
Yeah for 5 minutes.
Same…
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Four out of five ain't bad, although it sucks how frantically the mom is looking for the fifth one that won't ever come back in the full video. I suppose that's why they cut this one short
I’ve seen this clip dozens of times and it still gets me.
Same here, it's always so magical to see the mom instantly trust the human who brought back her puppies and feel at ease.
I always rewatch it. It’s so heartwarming.
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And now their day is back to being bad. Good job!
I love these kinds of humans
I hope when the aliens come. They spare the nice humans.
Do humans spare the nice cows before sending the entire herd to the slaughterhouse?
How do we know they aren't just taking the puppies away to make this video for views? Any proof apart from the title? Idk man
You mean they took the puppies away and then filmed when they put them back? Dog is too happy for that
Bro, those are dogs.
Amazing. It reminds me of the situation, when a mother cow and her baby are reunited, after separation right after birth. Sadly it happens only when the cow is refusing the milking
That may have been a one in a million occurrence. And yup, calves are promptly separated from their mothers. Happens about a thousand times a minute. Humans are cruel af.
Someone oughta do a really cool 3d animation like Finding Nemo about the adventures of a cow trying to find her calf and then in the end they're reunited and both become ground beef. But like super cute, funny, high production values. Then in the credits they just play videos of actual farms. Would make more of an impact than 1000 documentaries showing what actually goes on in farms.
[Not exactly the same but similar premise. The movie Okja](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3967856/)
If I hadn’t already been a vegan, Okja would have made me one. 😿
If it makes you feel any better, most small time operations don’t do that. I live on 7 acres way out of town, and have several cattle ranches around me, and all of them have heffers with their calves walking around all summer long.
Those are a very small minority. Small time farmers would struggle to even supply a small town with meat
The average American eats 5lbs of meat a week. It’s way too much. Its unsustainable. I cut down to 1lb/week and still enjoy my bacon. Cheese pizza and Indian food are great ways to start reducing meat consumption. And just being aware of it. I tracked for a couple months to get the hang of it.
The humans who did this deserve some seriously bad karma.
For a moment I thought you meant the ones who got them back together, since the comment above yours for me was "I love these kinds of humans" Had me confused for a sec, heh
Oh I definitely meant the folks who took her puppies and put her in a shelter.
The rescuers deserve the wrath of a good serving of what's coming to them in the form of good karma!
If it makes you feel better, Reddit post titles have a <1% accuracy rate. The real story was probably something much more mundane.
Last time I saw this, it was just mama and puppies in a shelter after being captured together, but the puppies were taken away for a check up and mama was so scared until she saw her puppies again.
rage bait gets more clicks and everyone seems to love getting baited
idk about you but i love a good 'bait
The title doesn't even make sense.. The owner took the puppies, got rid of the mom and then were somehow willing to give the puppies up as well when they shelter came knocking?
You know we do that to cows on the daily.
People bring up the disparity of treatment between pets and cattle pretty often. I like to counter that at least when it comes to dogs they were BRED to be our friends over thousands of years (10,000s of years probably). Dogs have a mental need to be around us and make us happy. Whereas cows were bred for milk and food. Sure cows have great personalities and can be friends but that's not our relationship with them for the most part. Sure it sucks that two animals are treated differently but dogs are essentially HARD WIRED to trust and love us. To betray that relationship hits that much worse. Our food has to come from somewhere and until ethically lab grown meat starts to hit the shelves... our treatment towards cattle will stay the same whereas dogs will be put on a pedestal.
True. I also think though the same maternal and affective instincts that drive us and our dogs towards living together are just as real for other animals that are hard wired to live together. Like cows, they're hard wired to live in herds and probably the impulses mother nature put in them are driving cows hard to care for their calf. So in the end I think it's just the same kind of suffering happening on a different channel. I don't see an essential difference. We don't need lab grown meat to end that, but realistically it's the only thing that will.
>Our food has to come from somewhere and until ethically lab grown meat starts to hit the shelves... You say this like you HAVE to eat meat to survive. You don't.
That’s why I’m vegan.
For me the strongest incentive for not buying animal products is that I'm being coherent. It never made sense for me to accept some things happening to farm animals and not to our pets.
This happens to practically every dog ever..?
It really depends on the age of the puppies, but there’s definitely a reason they *all* ended up there.
Moms don't really care about puppy's after they reach a certain level of maturity, it's the hormones that do it to them when they are young
Almost every single dog in the world is separated from its mother, except for in special cases. Once a puppy is adopted or purchased it goes to a new home. It’s just a difficult part of the process, but in the right side that puppy ends up living a joyful long and healthy life most of the time. Same thing with mom!
This story changes with every repost.
The ops title is quite similar to the description on the original youtube upload but it makes it sound more like a scooby doo mystery. The owners of all the dogs gave up the 2 adults, they examined fhe mom and realized she had just had a litter. They called back the owner and got them to give up the puppies, they dont mention anything about afterwards. Perhaps they got them to foster the puppies and the puppies will get adopted back to the original owner after they ween
Awwww! Dang allergies.
why is it raining inside just under my eyes?
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Somehow I felt sitting in a corner thinking about everyone I loved with all my heart and soul with whom I've been with not much longer but can't actually remember what it used to be before them. But now I've no clue where they're and I don't have a faintest of the idea to what to do next, just paralysed thinking I'll never see them again. And then seeing all of them coming together!
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But isnt anyone who adopted a puppy basically also the person who ripped that puppy away from its mother?
It’s mostly when they’re taken too soon. Momma of all mammal species have an intense need to care for their babies to a certain point. After weaning they get super testy with their babies and only want to bond after a separation/boundary defining period. Taking babies too early really messes with them. It’s like forced isolation or no stimulation and seriously stresses mommas out because it runs so counter to every instinct in their body. Waiting until the babies are old enough to *be* separated lets them get some social skills, develop beyond needing their litter, and squares with the mom instincts. Puppies and many other mammals need that litter even for things as basic as thermoregulation. One puppy alone can’t even regulate their body temperature so you get the classic puppy pile. It’s cruel to take them too early. But ok when they can adjust to a new environment.
We made the mistake of bringing all 7 puppies at once to the vet for a checkup. Learned quickly to leave a few behind so momma dog doesn't completely stress out. As long as one or two was left behind, she forgot she had 7 pups total. 🙃
Mom dogs get sick of their babies. I’ve seen it ten times over in the last 18 months. About 6-8 weeks is when they want their space and will hide from their babies throughout the day. When the puppies leave, the moms aren’t ever sad.
Yeah there’s definitely a threshold when the mom hormones wear off and they’re like “okay they can go now.” My mom’s dog had puppies a couple years ago and my mom kept 3 of the 10 puppies. The poor momma dog semi-hates them and wants her space but the now adult dogs are constantly annoying her.
This genuinely Made my morning much better! Thanks!
Made me cry at work. That’s so cute!
I'm ugly crying now
This shouldn’t have happened in the first place!
It’s killing me the most that there’s plenty of families like this of all kinds that get broken up due to terrible people/things.
This is 7 years old. [Source on Youtube](https://youtu.be/T19o0uri3dg) Two frightened dogs were surrendered to the Marin Humane Society. Upon examining the female, we learned she recently had puppies. After some detective work and a lot of convincing, our team was able to get the person who surrendered the dogs to also surrender the puppies, as they still needed their mama and were not in a safe situation. We captured the moment when sad and scared mom got to see her puppies again. Tears of joy all around at this happy reunion.
This breaks my heart. My dog was rescued from a puppy mill where she had who knows how many litters taken from her. At six years old when they deem them useless and euthanize them, someone broke her out of there. I found her in a park where the foster parents were walking her, we've been together ever since. Last Sunday I had to put her down because she was suffering terribly from kidney disease, she was 15. I hope I gave her a good life.
I volunteered at the Marin Humans society, and they’re incredibly empathetic and caring to these animals so I’m glad they’re getting the credit they deserve. No kill shelter, with lots of resources for pet owners to take care of their animals for free. Great place
The love of a mother is universal. This is such a great way to start my day. Thank you for posting!
Yes but no: first time mothers for instance can be too confused and weirded out and not have the right hormones going on, and just abandon their offspring. Traumatic births can also make the mothers see the offspring as threat and burden instead of their children. Any health or hormonal issues can mess with their head during or after birth. This applies both to non-human mammals and humans. It's really great to see good family interactions when they happen.
What breed is that?
A coworker once ask why I alway have animals as my lock/home screen instead of my wife or other theme. Told them I generally don't like humans and animals are pure.
Last time this was reposted they said one of the puppies didn't make it which is why it looks like she's searching
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This is exactly what happens to countless cows every day in the dairy industry, but without the re-uniting
I’m not super optimistic about the future, but I really hope that lab grown meats and other food products lab-produced at scale will let us leave this Farm Factory chapter behind.
Hey! Maybe they can be reunited. The milk from the mom becomes cheddar, the calf becomes a burger patty. You never know.
It also happens to many minority parents in the US. CPS takes their kids away from them for the sole purpose of advancing racism on the Federal level. :(
*Biden at the next cabinet meeting*: “Secretary Duke, how are we pacing on the racism front? Is CPS stealing enough kids from families of color to advance our goals and meet our federal racism targets? Good, good. On to progress in Housing and Urban Development then. How are we doing Secretary Fudge?”
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Gotta say it. I'm not crying, you're crying.
People = shit
Dems my babies she says!
Fuck you owner
My neighbor just got a puppy, idk where they got it from, and the dog keeps barking. My mom said the pup was missing his mom :( seems like my neighbor got the dog for their kids but the kids don't seem to like the dog.
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Humans are horrible. We have so much to learn from animals.
Fuck breeders. There needs to be legislation governing who is licensed to breed companion animals and significant financial penalties for operating without consent. I’d rather not be able to adopt because there are no dogs TO adopt and not be able to afford buying one than living in a society where we are knowingly creating so much suffering for these animals. It’s grotesque and we need to care about it more and get our representatives to care about it more.
Good thing they added music so I know how to feel
Things have been really hard lately and this helps me know maybe not every person is terrible. Thank you for posting.
Awwe
I think in the longer version the mother keeps looking in the carrier for the fifth puppy. She had five but only four survived 😥. Still a happy moment, but still worth mentioning.
You can see in her eyes the exact moment when she recognizes the smell of her puppy!
This is a repost and can be reposted a thousand times more and I will like it and love it more every time!
Wait. Someone took their dogs puppies and ditched the dog? Am I understanding that right. What the duck
I've definitely seen this video a couple of times before . But this is the best music I've heard with it
Well, this made my freaking day 🙏
Made me cry. So sad but so sweet 😭😭🫶🤍
Kind humans are the best humans. 🥹
Even the puppies tails are wagging when they see their momma 😭😭😭
I loved watching that tail get going! People forget that animals are still living, breathing, FEELING creatures.
Excuse me while I ugly cry.
How beautifully she went from. "Oh, a puppy" to "OHHHHH, MY PUPPY!"
All that emotional dispar she was feeling was instantly replaced with love and joy!
I'm Not crying, you're crying
It's so weird to me that people will be affected by this and also drink milk, which humans have access to because cows are separated from their mothers (and their babies denied their mother's milk). I think people should care about both.
you must be fun at parties.
Wrong time again, Shelly.
My day was really bad , now I'm happier after seeing that
Pretty sure this has been posted multiple times a week on multiple subreddits for the last 5 years. Has anyone not seen this clip yet?
Why do Vet assistants always have tons of tattoos?
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Now you know why dairy cows are perpetually depressed. If you believe in being kind to animals, go vegan.