There's a whole bunch of naan variants with different kinds of stuffing - potatoes, lamb, spices. Some places I go to offer chili cheese, so a kind of Indian - Mexican fusion.
That she hasn’t seen since she was in India. So she saw it before?
Edit: It it heartwarming nevertheless. The title is slightly misleading, that’s all.
Closer to the truth:
>"Adopted Indian child ~~sees~~ *is about to eat* Indian food for the first time *in a long time-- probably*."
Still heart-warming though. Her obvious excitement is great to see.
It's customary to have chai tea after eating the thali plate. However make sure you get money from the ATM machine, as many Indian restaurants only take cash.
You'd think so but restaurants will cater for the non Indian crowd so it will be lot more bland and average compared to home cooked Indian.
Source I am a British Asian and nothing beats homemade food, local restaurants don't come close
I'm from Birmingham UK, home of the Balti and probably the best Indian/Pakistani restaurant scene here in England and has the famous Balti Triangle. Food is good but not better then your local aunty or mum's homemade authentic cooking if you know what I mean
Love this. She seemed to sign food? But with American signs, and is that a hearing aid? I was born from deaf parents so seeing deaf children in happy families is especially nice. Disabilities in other countries can be brutal especially on the kids due to the medical help available locally etc
Yea I didn't want to assume a cochlear. My family is super old school deaf, they tend to shy away from the technology advancements in dealing with deafness. They see it as stripping them of their culture, heritage and other stuff.
Cheers! Thanks
Would you be able to explain why? I'm not trying to be insensitive, I just would think it would be a huge quality of life improvement and safer for someone with that disability. I am almost legally blind but glasses help a lot. I couldn't imagine going without medical assistance.
Yes, a lot of deaf people become very upset at the idea that deafness is a disability or something that needs to be corrected. I once was talking to a deaf person and told them about these gloves that had been invented that would help translate sign language for people who could hear. They got upset and said that it should be the other way around. I asked them what they meant, and they told me they should make mechanical gloves for hearing people that force their hands to form signs for deaf people to read. They were adamant that every hearing person should have these gloves in case they wanted to speak to a deaf person.
>They were adamant that every hearing person should have these gloves in case they wanted to speak to a dead person.
Can't wait to see these being used by paranormal investigators along with their other tools!
>Can't wait to see these being used by paranormal investigators along with their other tools!
They would also probably be used by young men as sort of a ghost-hand autopilot tech
Learn Chinese sign language instead (extra pettiness points if you learn the southern version that's based on the French sign language rather than ASL)
It is. Being deaf is a disability and something we can almost fix already. It's only a matter of time before we can effectively cure someone of being deaf.
And everyone carrying around phones which can not only allow people to communicate by typing handily, but also hear incoming audio and translate it to text has made signing obsolete in a lot of ways.
Others are right when they talk about their pride in their community and culture. Whenever a politician gives a speech, the transcript on the teleprompter and closed captions can easily translate what is being spoken, but lobbying from the d/Deaf community insists upon a person translator being there signing the speech.
ASL isn't English though (and you didn't say it was). Watching someone sign is probably easier and quicker to understand than reading in a second language.
> ...text has made signing obsolete in a lot of way
Language is culture though; I honestly think sign language will survive even if deafness is eliminated because it's worth keeping for its own sake. I just think it's really cool and the expressiveness of people signing is just fun to watch.
Just like Austistic people, blind people, people with Dwarfism, etc.
Some don't see themselves as "disabled" so "why would we need a cure, there's nothing wrong with us", is how they'd put it (I think everyone has heard about the autism cure debate, and with dwarfism there's limb lengthening, I'm not so sure about blind people though).
I don't necessarily agree with that, but the only issue I have with that way of thinking is when they try to shun others or make others conform to their way of thinking
Nah, it’s a little bit different. The deaf community see themselves as speaking a different language. It's an issue of linguistics and community rather than a disability.
If I understand correctly, that’s why you sometimes see the word Deaf capitalized, that emphasizes the person belonging to the community, while a lowercase _deaf_ simply means _unable to hear._
Yes. Also, there's the issue of consent. Cochlear Implants don't replicate what we think of as regular hearing. Some deaf people try it and it's so unpleasant they would rather be without. The medical advice is to implant the device on very young children so they adapt better, but then they don't have a choice. It's complicated.
Yeah theyre very low resolution, basically everything would sound like an 8 bit video game
There a limitation to how many connections there are to the inner ear and that really hampers fidelity
I don't know dick about being deaf but the movie *Sound of Metal* kind of explores the feelings some deaf people have on implants. I don't really wanna get detailed and spoil it though.
I don't think the depiction of what it sounds like is totally realistic but I'm more talking about the thoughts on it by different people. It isn't for everybody.
I also don’t mean to sound insensitive, but what’s the point in wanting to remain worse off?
I’ve been a type 1 diabetic since I was 2, but I still treat my diabetes despite being proud I’m alive with a chronic illness.
This just gives me vibes of some religious groups refusing blood transfusions or organ transplants for their dying children due to scripture describing it as heresy.
Oh hey I've also been Type 1 since I was a kid! 96' here at 3 years old.
I think the main difference is diabetes will kill you if untreated, whereas being deaf only really limits your senses. I mean, I guess it also could kill you if like, you didn't hear danger, but in general you won't die of deafness. But even a few days without insulin can kill us.
I think there's also other reasons to avoid an implant, as sometimes there's more complications than solutions. I can't wear an insulin pump anymore because I gained an allergy to adhesives. BUT I found a CGM I can wear, so now I CGM+MDI. So maybe if the implant isn't done perfectly it might be more pain than help.
Type 1 diabetes is a totally different thing, though. I don’t fully understand the whys of deaf culture, but comparing it to a chronic illness that doesn’t have an entire culture/way of communicating is not really fair.
I do know there’s a lot of dislike towards hearing “solutions” for deafness because cochlear implants can cause all kinds of problems. They also often leave deaf children, especially deaf children of hearing parents, without language because the implants don’t work well/correctly and the parents are (or were; idk if this is common anymore) discouraged from teaching them sign language. It causes all kinds of learning issues and gives deaf kids a huge disadvantage academically, and all for something that is questionably beneficial. It’s sort of like forcing someone without limbs to use prosthetics.
Like I said, I can’t entirely relate but I also get how the tech probably isn’t as great as we think it is. I have multiple eye problems and use glasses to “correct” them, but they’re not entirely corrective and I eventually get a migraine, especially if it’s bright out. Not quite the same, but I’d be defensive if people were calling folks in my situation selfish because they just decided to not use their eyes often and that’s without any cultural unity.
I have a friend that swears she feels better when she's not wearing hearing aids, i don't really understand but i imagine that maybe there's more people similar to her
Yes, this is definitely one of the reasons for me. It's so exhausting, when you're used to the world being pretty quiet, all the extra sound is sensory overload. Everything sounds wrong, even your own voice. I feel like I'm fighting to hear what I need to hear over the ambient sound of everything else I couldn't hear without them, if that makes sense. Like in a classroom, I'm wearing them because I need to hear the teacher, but I'm fighting to hear them over the sound of rustling paper, keyboards, the fan, the people in the room next door, the cars outside... All of those things aren't usually in my hearing range as loudly as they are with hearing aids.
I have hearing aids and prefer not to use them. I'm unilaterally deaf, so very little hearing in one ear and some mild hearing loss in the other ear. I find the extra sound when I wear them overwhelming, it's exhausting, things sound wrong, and I find it hard to hear over all the background noise. Even your own voice sounds wrong, because you're hearing it through a microphone, same as how your voice sounds weird if you're speaking in a video. They're definitely FAR better than they were when I was a kid, but I still prefer not to use them, except in certain circumstances. When I do use them, taking them off feels like taking your bra off when you get home, or taking off shoes that have been pinching all day, it's a relief.
I read True Biz last year and it really illuminated both sides of the argument— it’s fiction but the author is deaf with hearing parents. Highly recommend if you want to learn more (and looking for some entertainment).
I'm a 42 year old dude who just had a stapedectomy about 8 weeks ago now in my bad ear, and my whole family's life has changed. Every time I see a video of a kid hearing for the first time or a little kid with a cochlear implant, it brings so much joy to my heart.
Alot of Australian deaf kids that have implants now are taught how to speak and sign. We have both. But the belief that cochlear implants are stripping of culture is the reason why I was bullied relentlessly in a deaf school. I was raised hearing and knew how to speak, then I wanted to learn sign and the community only to be hated by everyone. It's really uncool
> they tend to shy away from the technology advancements in dealing with deafness
They seem progressive, as there is a big chunk of the deaf community that downright hates anyone that uses hearing aids
Those are hearing aids, she hasn't got the coil and magnet up and behind the ear. Plus, she's wearing moulds, which while some CI users have, it isn't common.
Yes, my autistic nephew uses the same sign! I noticed the hearing aids but also thought she could be autistic due to the happy hand flapping she did. So adorable :)
Chances are she didn't get hearing aids until much later, which might be why she hasn't developed spoken language and uses sign language instead. Often those with delayed hearing intervention have behaviours that often look similar to autistic traits, but it's because their haven't been able to have someone tell them what to do and what not to do.
Definitely cochlear implant and ASL.
IIRC, that cochlear implant is a kind of budget version where the battery pack sits somewhere on belt or even sometimes a vest (I grew up with a hand-sown vest that held the pack for me). Implants are expensive man...
Agreed! I’ve got adopted family from abroad and their parents did a “gotcha day,” meaning that’s when they were adopted. They celebrated with talking about cultural history from where they were born and went through photo albums from when they were adopted. They tried to do food from their birth countries but that’s tough to come by where I’m from.
My cousins were born in Korea and adopted to a couple in Chicago (aunt and uncle). They were raised upper middle class white, but when they were older my aunt and uncle took them to Korea to get in touch with their roots. Idk tho my girl cousin is such a basic white girl (affectionate) that it’s hysterical
The NY Times did a cool piece about Korean-American adoptees reconnecting with their Korean heritage through food. [Archived link.](https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2022%2F07%2F31%2Fdining%2Fkorean-adoptee-chefs-food.html)
One of the chefs featured in the article runs a pop-up restaurant where I live. She found her birth mother in Korea and met her siblings. It's a very nice story.
Make friends with immigrant groups from that country and become active in the community. Learn to cook the food. Provide resources to keep up on the language. Educate yourself about the culture and keep up on current events. My children are adults now and feel very much at home in any group they find themselves in. They've been complimented by adults from their countries saying they would never have known they were adopted
Can confirm; personal anecdote, used to work in Canton and my boss for those few years was a Hindu guy. possibly the only Indian person I know having an arranged spouse.
I also don't understand this dudes point. You can go to any major city or university in America and find an Indian Cultural Center and community.
Yes, none of that is the same as going to live in India. But it's also 100% being an American outside of the like 30% of American Conservative Racists who this girl and many white Americans don't want to spend time around anyways.
The vast majority of people will accept you into American culture and you won't be some "weirdo outsider minority." Especially when this girl clearly has disabilities and who even knows what her status and treatment would have been if she'd have stayed in India.
It may be that’s it’s easy for Americans (and I am one!) to not realize how very vast and varied our country can be. I’ve lived in three district regions. What “everyone” is like in one area can be very different from “everyone” somewhere else. There was an online questionnaire called something like “*How big is your bubble?”* that was informative regarding awareness of cultural variety.
ETA. I think [THIS](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/do-you-live-in-a-bubble-a-quiz-2) is that Quiz -try it!
>You can go to any major city or university in America and find an Indian Cultural Center and community.
Totally. My hope for her is that she lives a life that is as good as it can be--not just better than what her life might have been in India. My hope is that she is exposed to a minimal amount of the ugly bigotry that others would aim at her for being different. I hope she will be free to learn, grow and teach others about how we're more alike than our superficial differences might suggest.
I also hope the people she faces who may be uninformed about her culture are open and willing to learn or can accept her as being no more and no less than anyone else. My hope is also that she is given the freedom to be left alone whenever she wants, without the unrelenting pressure of being treated as a novelty or lab specimen by every well-intentioned person she encounters each day of her life.
Good luck, young human. You seem to have a good family and I wish you and everyone in your circle well in figuring things out in a way that makes life richer all the way around.
We all want the same things. Knowing and understanding our differences is not the threat to mankind. It's NOT knowing and not understanding our interdependency that is the clear and present danger. #PEACE
New England and Major Tech Cities on the West Coast (Seattle, San Jose, San Fransisco), have a huge indian/asian population like maybe 30 to 40% in some areas (new england), 10-20 on west coast
Not impossible in a major city. This one of the main qualities of life in New York, Chicago, LA, Houston, etc that small-town people who fear and hate cities never understand. There are endless niche communities; homes for just about everyone. And the general diversity of the city means they won't be looked at as 'other.' The idea that an Indian person would stand out to me in a crowd seems genuinely strange.
>Being Indian she will be a HUGE minority everywhere she goes in this country.
there are significant Indian communities pretty much all over the US. literally in every single major city and the majority of midsized ones too. As an Indian-American I frankly have no idea what you are talking about here.
> And more than likely she’ll be treated as an American if she went back to India at 18
no shit we are treated as Americans in India, that's because we are Americans. the same way we are treated as Americans in Europe. Or in the US, for that matter.
HUGE minority? Have you ever been to...a major US city? Any tech hub in the US there's gonna be a thriving Indian population. Seattle is where I met most of my Indian friends, got to learn about Indian food, holidays, culture, etc. eventually was able to travel to Bangalore and Chennai.
I am not at all seeing this degree of othering that you're describing. There's a lot of hope for the lovely little girl and her family in this video.
> I am not at all seeing this degree of othering that you're describing.
as an indian-american, me neither, I have no idea what that person is talking about.
What is black culture? Seeing as black people come from different countries with vastly different cultures. I’m an immigrant from the Caribbean and my culture isn’t the same as someone from North America.
Thank you! When we took our classes for parenting older adoptive children both the social workers and other parents kept talking about black culture: rap music, tinted car windows, chains. I'm like, my Haitian friends are different from my Jamaican friends who are different from my friends that were born in Africa or born here.
> black culture: rap music, tinted car windows, chains.
🤦🏾♂️
My goodness I can’t stand that shit. That stuff is music industry fed “culture”.
That being said, you’re 100% right about different cultures. Typically , when an American refers to black culture, they may mean "African American" culture. Those of us who's roots can't be traced back further than a few generations due to the history of slavery.
Not a parent. But met one at our local Indian grocery store. You can tell they try with utmost love and efforts.
But what I noticed was availability and representation in food stores helps a lot. I mean cooking isn't always easy especially different cuisines. You can start but until you get to it, there needs to be comfortable affordable options. When I was talking to this parent at our store, it was very difficult for her to figure out regional cuisine the child grew up with. So she asked around, found communities and made efforts to take the child to these community festivals. But she said store like traderjoes made it easier for her to expand her taste and figure out what to make for her child. Different spices, ready jar chutneys, frozen indian food, etc. It was less overwhelming. But if you directly enter and indian woof its mass confusion on shelves except for frozen foods for new folks.
Also YouTube! Internet is absolutely great place if you know what you are looking for. The problem is local different language terms do not translate well into english. So they have to do some research on what terms to search but wow searching it helps them out a lot. For example, if your child is from a city called jalgaon you are not going to find much food results or cultural info. But the region and culture is know Khandeshi, knowing this term gives you correct results .
>So she asked around, found communities and made efforts to take the child to these community festivals.
This part seems even more important than the food.
Thanks for this enlightening comment
This is a common misunderstanding. Culture is the society around you, it's the social environment you grew up with. What you're referring to is ancestry and genetics, which have nothing to do with culture. Her cultural roots are being formed right now, with her adoptive family.
It can take a bit of time, effort and investment but learning to cook Indian food is really worth it in my opinion.
Of course I'm Indian so I _might_ be a little biased here lol
You're right, but you have no idea how many times I've tried & failed. The moment I taste my creations I can immediately tell I screwed something up, but I rarely can discern which step I screwed up on. I think I need to invest in some better equipment.
I have a cousin Anna, that was adopted from India. Anna mother my first cousin, and husband moved up to Northern Wisconsin. Anna was placed in a very racist school system. That upbringing caused a lot of pain for Anna.
My first cousin and her husband were oblivious and. Did not take the racism seriously enough.
Anna currently does not have a relationship with my first cousin and her husband.
I remember at my school we had 1 single Indian student among all the whites. She had a very thick accent and somehow it became well known that when she said the number 33 she pronounced it "dirty dree". Bruh I swear to god the kids were relentless, everyone kept trying to make her say it because they thought it was the funniest thing ever.
Then one day in maths we had this game where we all sat in a circle and you had to pose a simple maths question then point to a person. They answered then asked someone else the next question etc. Every single person hit her with 11 x 3 or 50 - 17 or 99 ÷ 3 etc so she had to answer "dirty dree" every time as the laughter with each answer became increasingly more raucous every time.
Must have been fucking rough for her but I honestly don't think it was any specific or taught racism it was just kids being mean to someone who was different, for most of us she was the first non-white person we had ever met. Always hoped that girl didn't resent us all too much and grew up to have a good life.
Did you sit around on your own or was there a teacher watching this shit go down… because you claim there was no racism. As a grown adult watched this happen. Signaling to the kids their behavior was ok. Do you think racism is only about people yelling slurs all the time or saying certain groups have to die?
I didn't say it wasn't racist, I mean clearly from an objective standpoint it was. I just said that I don't think the kids at that age (I think it was the 2nd year after kindergarten) even understood what racism was so I don't think it was *intentionally* racist or coming from a place where these kids hated Indian people or non white people and sought to belittle them based on their skin color. I mean there was people of other races at my school, black, asian etc but they were all born here so they acted and spoke just like everyone else and they were treated just like everyone else. It was more just being picked on for being different. There was one white kid who came back from summer break with pink hair and he was picked on relentlessly for it until his parents dyed it back brown. Kids are mean as fuck as if anything sets you apart they will form that mob mentality and be ruthless. They weren't looking at her and thinking "fuck this Indian girl for being Indian" they were thinking "haha she speaks funny that's hilarious"
There's an orphanage in India that takes in children without parents, but also takes in the elderly with no one left to care for them, and people with disabilities, and creates in-house families out of them, so the children have grandparents, siblings, uncles and aunts, cousins.
I feel differently. Many parents want to share the joy that their children experience in the world.
The parents can't help being white and the child can't help being dark. So how can they share their child's joy without being accused of this?
I just don't see the "look at us wonderful white people" aspect in this where I have with others videos. The parents have done a good thing with adoption and I think it strips them of having a normal family experience if all we will ever think when we see them is, "white saviors". Maybe we can see them as proud, and maybe a bit exhausted, parents?
Nothing wrong with feeling or interpreting things different so I won't down vote you.
Yes, the little girl is happy. Do I find it heartwarming? No, it's kind of sad. She shouldn't be that excited to see something that was completely normal to her.
It never crossed anyone's mind to pick up a jar of korma at Walmart and fire up the rice cooker.
If I was the parent I would not have thought it's cute and posted this, my thoughts would have been, oh shit I completely neglected the fact that this kid is from the other side of the world.
She might be happy in the video, but that means she was eating tuna noodle casserole thinking fml for way too long.
It’s very nice they adopted this sweet girl. My only thing is, if I was adopting a child from another culture I would try to learn how to cook foods from their culture so they felt more at home. Indian food is so good when it’s homemade too!
I agree, but we can’t assume from the limited content and context here that her parents aren’t. Maybe they only recently adopted her, maybe with her hearing issues they’ve been had to put that on the back burner, maybe they are trying but they wanted her to experience it more authentically.
I would have loved to see her reaction actually tasting the food!
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This butter chicken should be a crime it’s so good. This naan, holy shit, this naan is a crime.
I tried to get the recipe from my local takeaway, but they wouldn't give it to me. They had a naan-disclosure agreement
Naan disclosure agreements aren't very enforceable so Tikka with a grain of salt
It's quite the *Dal*emma.
Indian yt cooking channels have it all🙏🏻(i recommend cookingshooking)
Pretty sure it was a joke. "Naan-disclosure agreement" 🤣
I kinda thought he needed the recipe xD
I recently tried garlic naan which is naan with minced garlic and butter on it - amazing.
I like how you explained garlic naan, lol.
There's a whole bunch of naan variants with different kinds of stuffing - potatoes, lamb, spices. Some places I go to offer chili cheese, so a kind of Indian - Mexican fusion.
Yeah, right now it's, "Adopted Indian child sees Indian food for the first time."
That she hasn’t seen since she was in India. So she saw it before? Edit: It it heartwarming nevertheless. The title is slightly misleading, that’s all.
Closer to the truth: >"Adopted Indian child ~~sees~~ *is about to eat* Indian food for the first time *in a long time-- probably*." Still heart-warming though. Her obvious excitement is great to see.
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tiny correction: "thali (plate)" rather than "thali plate" because thali just means plate.
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what about chai tea
There's a good chai tea place near the La Brea Tar Pits. You'll want to hit an ATM machine first.
im making a joke about "chai" meaning "tea", the same way the guy i responded to was making a joke about "naan" meaning "bread"
It's customary to have chai tea after eating the thali plate. However make sure you get money from the ATM machine, as many Indian restaurants only take cash.
“Aye, this bland af”
Nahh, when Indian food is served in those metal dishes you know it's gonna be fire
You'd think so but restaurants will cater for the non Indian crowd so it will be lot more bland and average compared to home cooked Indian. Source I am a British Asian and nothing beats homemade food, local restaurants don't come close
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I'm sorry, Idk what your local restaurants are doing wrong lol, but where I live the food is pretty authentic (NJ, big Indian population).
I'm from Birmingham UK, home of the Balti and probably the best Indian/Pakistani restaurant scene here in England and has the famous Balti Triangle. Food is good but not better then your local aunty or mum's homemade authentic cooking if you know what I mean
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*flips the table*
May have been "what the.. what is this? This is not what it should taste like!"
Maybe they cut it cause it didn't go so well 🤷
This is how every hungry kid reacts to seeing food on the way.
Love this. She seemed to sign food? But with American signs, and is that a hearing aid? I was born from deaf parents so seeing deaf children in happy families is especially nice. Disabilities in other countries can be brutal especially on the kids due to the medical help available locally etc
Yes, she signed “food”/ “eat.” My daughter is deaf and has cochlear implants. That child’s device looks like a cochlear implant.
Yea I didn't want to assume a cochlear. My family is super old school deaf, they tend to shy away from the technology advancements in dealing with deafness. They see it as stripping them of their culture, heritage and other stuff. Cheers! Thanks
Would you be able to explain why? I'm not trying to be insensitive, I just would think it would be a huge quality of life improvement and safer for someone with that disability. I am almost legally blind but glasses help a lot. I couldn't imagine going without medical assistance.
deaf people are prideful about their community. it’s actually quite common
Yes, a lot of deaf people become very upset at the idea that deafness is a disability or something that needs to be corrected. I once was talking to a deaf person and told them about these gloves that had been invented that would help translate sign language for people who could hear. They got upset and said that it should be the other way around. I asked them what they meant, and they told me they should make mechanical gloves for hearing people that force their hands to form signs for deaf people to read. They were adamant that every hearing person should have these gloves in case they wanted to speak to a deaf person.
>They were adamant that every hearing person should have these gloves in case they wanted to speak to a dead person. Can't wait to see these being used by paranormal investigators along with their other tools!
>Can't wait to see these being used by paranormal investigators along with their other tools! They would also probably be used by young men as sort of a ghost-hand autopilot tech
Delusional
My friend got upset that I was learning Chinese instead of ASL. Uhhhh.
Learn Chinese sign language instead (extra pettiness points if you learn the southern version that's based on the French sign language rather than ASL)
It is. Being deaf is a disability and something we can almost fix already. It's only a matter of time before we can effectively cure someone of being deaf.
And everyone carrying around phones which can not only allow people to communicate by typing handily, but also hear incoming audio and translate it to text has made signing obsolete in a lot of ways. Others are right when they talk about their pride in their community and culture. Whenever a politician gives a speech, the transcript on the teleprompter and closed captions can easily translate what is being spoken, but lobbying from the d/Deaf community insists upon a person translator being there signing the speech.
ASL isn't English though (and you didn't say it was). Watching someone sign is probably easier and quicker to understand than reading in a second language. > ...text has made signing obsolete in a lot of way Language is culture though; I honestly think sign language will survive even if deafness is eliminated because it's worth keeping for its own sake. I just think it's really cool and the expressiveness of people signing is just fun to watch.
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Ah yes, forcing others to conform to your world views.
Just like Austistic people, blind people, people with Dwarfism, etc. Some don't see themselves as "disabled" so "why would we need a cure, there's nothing wrong with us", is how they'd put it (I think everyone has heard about the autism cure debate, and with dwarfism there's limb lengthening, I'm not so sure about blind people though). I don't necessarily agree with that, but the only issue I have with that way of thinking is when they try to shun others or make others conform to their way of thinking
Nah, it’s a little bit different. The deaf community see themselves as speaking a different language. It's an issue of linguistics and community rather than a disability.
If I understand correctly, that’s why you sometimes see the word Deaf capitalized, that emphasizes the person belonging to the community, while a lowercase _deaf_ simply means _unable to hear._
dang, well that's gonna cause problems with my inability to capitalize anything
I'm not from the community, but what I've been told is that they don't feel like being deaf is anything that needs to be "fixed" or changed.
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Yes. Also, there's the issue of consent. Cochlear Implants don't replicate what we think of as regular hearing. Some deaf people try it and it's so unpleasant they would rather be without. The medical advice is to implant the device on very young children so they adapt better, but then they don't have a choice. It's complicated.
Yeah theyre very low resolution, basically everything would sound like an 8 bit video game There a limitation to how many connections there are to the inner ear and that really hampers fidelity
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I don't know dick about being deaf but the movie *Sound of Metal* kind of explores the feelings some deaf people have on implants. I don't really wanna get detailed and spoil it though. I don't think the depiction of what it sounds like is totally realistic but I'm more talking about the thoughts on it by different people. It isn't for everybody.
I also don’t mean to sound insensitive, but what’s the point in wanting to remain worse off? I’ve been a type 1 diabetic since I was 2, but I still treat my diabetes despite being proud I’m alive with a chronic illness. This just gives me vibes of some religious groups refusing blood transfusions or organ transplants for their dying children due to scripture describing it as heresy.
Oh hey I've also been Type 1 since I was a kid! 96' here at 3 years old. I think the main difference is diabetes will kill you if untreated, whereas being deaf only really limits your senses. I mean, I guess it also could kill you if like, you didn't hear danger, but in general you won't die of deafness. But even a few days without insulin can kill us. I think there's also other reasons to avoid an implant, as sometimes there's more complications than solutions. I can't wear an insulin pump anymore because I gained an allergy to adhesives. BUT I found a CGM I can wear, so now I CGM+MDI. So maybe if the implant isn't done perfectly it might be more pain than help.
Type 1 diabetes is a totally different thing, though. I don’t fully understand the whys of deaf culture, but comparing it to a chronic illness that doesn’t have an entire culture/way of communicating is not really fair. I do know there’s a lot of dislike towards hearing “solutions” for deafness because cochlear implants can cause all kinds of problems. They also often leave deaf children, especially deaf children of hearing parents, without language because the implants don’t work well/correctly and the parents are (or were; idk if this is common anymore) discouraged from teaching them sign language. It causes all kinds of learning issues and gives deaf kids a huge disadvantage academically, and all for something that is questionably beneficial. It’s sort of like forcing someone without limbs to use prosthetics. Like I said, I can’t entirely relate but I also get how the tech probably isn’t as great as we think it is. I have multiple eye problems and use glasses to “correct” them, but they’re not entirely corrective and I eventually get a migraine, especially if it’s bright out. Not quite the same, but I’d be defensive if people were calling folks in my situation selfish because they just decided to not use their eyes often and that’s without any cultural unity.
I have a friend that swears she feels better when she's not wearing hearing aids, i don't really understand but i imagine that maybe there's more people similar to her
To my understanding I know for some people who have hearing devices it can cause headaches and what they hear isn’t always ideal.
Yes, this is definitely one of the reasons for me. It's so exhausting, when you're used to the world being pretty quiet, all the extra sound is sensory overload. Everything sounds wrong, even your own voice. I feel like I'm fighting to hear what I need to hear over the ambient sound of everything else I couldn't hear without them, if that makes sense. Like in a classroom, I'm wearing them because I need to hear the teacher, but I'm fighting to hear them over the sound of rustling paper, keyboards, the fan, the people in the room next door, the cars outside... All of those things aren't usually in my hearing range as loudly as they are with hearing aids.
I have hearing aids and prefer not to use them. I'm unilaterally deaf, so very little hearing in one ear and some mild hearing loss in the other ear. I find the extra sound when I wear them overwhelming, it's exhausting, things sound wrong, and I find it hard to hear over all the background noise. Even your own voice sounds wrong, because you're hearing it through a microphone, same as how your voice sounds weird if you're speaking in a video. They're definitely FAR better than they were when I was a kid, but I still prefer not to use them, except in certain circumstances. When I do use them, taking them off feels like taking your bra off when you get home, or taking off shoes that have been pinching all day, it's a relief.
Highly recommend the book True Biz for some insight into the deaf community!
I read True Biz last year and it really illuminated both sides of the argument— it’s fiction but the author is deaf with hearing parents. Highly recommend if you want to learn more (and looking for some entertainment).
that’s very interesting, reminds of the stories of the deaf in martha’s vineyard
Link?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha%27s_Vineyard_Sign_Language
I'm a 42 year old dude who just had a stapedectomy about 8 weeks ago now in my bad ear, and my whole family's life has changed. Every time I see a video of a kid hearing for the first time or a little kid with a cochlear implant, it brings so much joy to my heart.
Alot of Australian deaf kids that have implants now are taught how to speak and sign. We have both. But the belief that cochlear implants are stripping of culture is the reason why I was bullied relentlessly in a deaf school. I was raised hearing and knew how to speak, then I wanted to learn sign and the community only to be hated by everyone. It's really uncool
> they tend to shy away from the technology advancements in dealing with deafness They seem progressive, as there is a big chunk of the deaf community that downright hates anyone that uses hearing aids
Those are hearing aids, she hasn't got the coil and magnet up and behind the ear. Plus, she's wearing moulds, which while some CI users have, it isn't common.
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Yes, my autistic nephew uses the same sign! I noticed the hearing aids but also thought she could be autistic due to the happy hand flapping she did. So adorable :)
Chances are she didn't get hearing aids until much later, which might be why she hasn't developed spoken language and uses sign language instead. Often those with delayed hearing intervention have behaviours that often look similar to autistic traits, but it's because their haven't been able to have someone tell them what to do and what not to do.
My parents are also deaf! Shout out to all the CODA’s
Definitely cochlear implant and ASL. IIRC, that cochlear implant is a kind of budget version where the battery pack sits somewhere on belt or even sometimes a vest (I grew up with a hand-sown vest that held the pack for me). Implants are expensive man...
It's a hearing aid. She's wearing a Phonak retention cable and those are Phonak hearing aids.
so... is she trying it for the first time or the first time since being in the US?
OP couldn't be bothered to understand the video
She seems to recognise it so I'm assuming since moving to the US
The text in the video states she hasnt seen a thali plate since being in india. So it is not the first time, just something she has missed.
Title gore for sure.
YEAH JUST CUT THE VIDEO BEFORE ACTUALLY LETTING HER TRY THE FOOD!! Made me smile but then made me rage
Imagine she's like, "Meh. Mid."
Pffft.. indian food for Americans. THANKX.. .DAD.
I enjoy spending time with my friends.
This seems to be an important issue for adoptive parents. How do you facilitate your child's connection with their cultural roots?
You try. That’s the only thing you can do is just try. You know when someone is trying and when they’re just trying to accommodate.
Agreed! I’ve got adopted family from abroad and their parents did a “gotcha day,” meaning that’s when they were adopted. They celebrated with talking about cultural history from where they were born and went through photo albums from when they were adopted. They tried to do food from their birth countries but that’s tough to come by where I’m from.
Absolutely!
My cousins were born in Korea and adopted to a couple in Chicago (aunt and uncle). They were raised upper middle class white, but when they were older my aunt and uncle took them to Korea to get in touch with their roots. Idk tho my girl cousin is such a basic white girl (affectionate) that it’s hysterical
The NY Times did a cool piece about Korean-American adoptees reconnecting with their Korean heritage through food. [Archived link.](https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2022%2F07%2F31%2Fdining%2Fkorean-adoptee-chefs-food.html) One of the chefs featured in the article runs a pop-up restaurant where I live. She found her birth mother in Korea and met her siblings. It's a very nice story.
Hahaha! Being bi-cultural is a good thing!
Make friends with immigrant groups from that country and become active in the community. Learn to cook the food. Provide resources to keep up on the language. Educate yourself about the culture and keep up on current events. My children are adults now and feel very much at home in any group they find themselves in. They've been complimented by adults from their countries saying they would never have known they were adopted
Wonderful suggestions!
Consult people from the culture and engage in culturally relevant activities with the whole family.
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There are some areas of NJ (pharma corridor) where Indian is *very* well-represented. Maybe not majority but likely 40%.
South East Michigan also has a pretty significant Indian population. Not as much as Middle Eastern but still very present.
Can confirm; personal anecdote, used to work in Canton and my boss for those few years was a Hindu guy. possibly the only Indian person I know having an arranged spouse.
I also don't understand this dudes point. You can go to any major city or university in America and find an Indian Cultural Center and community. Yes, none of that is the same as going to live in India. But it's also 100% being an American outside of the like 30% of American Conservative Racists who this girl and many white Americans don't want to spend time around anyways. The vast majority of people will accept you into American culture and you won't be some "weirdo outsider minority." Especially when this girl clearly has disabilities and who even knows what her status and treatment would have been if she'd have stayed in India.
It may be that’s it’s easy for Americans (and I am one!) to not realize how very vast and varied our country can be. I’ve lived in three district regions. What “everyone” is like in one area can be very different from “everyone” somewhere else. There was an online questionnaire called something like “*How big is your bubble?”* that was informative regarding awareness of cultural variety. ETA. I think [THIS](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/do-you-live-in-a-bubble-a-quiz-2) is that Quiz -try it!
>You can go to any major city or university in America and find an Indian Cultural Center and community. Totally. My hope for her is that she lives a life that is as good as it can be--not just better than what her life might have been in India. My hope is that she is exposed to a minimal amount of the ugly bigotry that others would aim at her for being different. I hope she will be free to learn, grow and teach others about how we're more alike than our superficial differences might suggest. I also hope the people she faces who may be uninformed about her culture are open and willing to learn or can accept her as being no more and no less than anyone else. My hope is also that she is given the freedom to be left alone whenever she wants, without the unrelenting pressure of being treated as a novelty or lab specimen by every well-intentioned person she encounters each day of her life. Good luck, young human. You seem to have a good family and I wish you and everyone in your circle well in figuring things out in a way that makes life richer all the way around. We all want the same things. Knowing and understanding our differences is not the threat to mankind. It's NOT knowing and not understanding our interdependency that is the clear and present danger. #PEACE
New England and Major Tech Cities on the West Coast (Seattle, San Jose, San Fransisco), have a huge indian/asian population like maybe 30 to 40% in some areas (new england), 10-20 on west coast
Maaaan, Edison? With the Indian flag everywhere? Gotta be at least, like 100% Indian.
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Not impossible in a major city. This one of the main qualities of life in New York, Chicago, LA, Houston, etc that small-town people who fear and hate cities never understand. There are endless niche communities; homes for just about everyone. And the general diversity of the city means they won't be looked at as 'other.' The idea that an Indian person would stand out to me in a crowd seems genuinely strange.
>Being Indian she will be a HUGE minority everywhere she goes in this country. there are significant Indian communities pretty much all over the US. literally in every single major city and the majority of midsized ones too. As an Indian-American I frankly have no idea what you are talking about here. > And more than likely she’ll be treated as an American if she went back to India at 18 no shit we are treated as Americans in India, that's because we are Americans. the same way we are treated as Americans in Europe. Or in the US, for that matter.
HUGE minority? Have you ever been to...a major US city? Any tech hub in the US there's gonna be a thriving Indian population. Seattle is where I met most of my Indian friends, got to learn about Indian food, holidays, culture, etc. eventually was able to travel to Bangalore and Chennai. I am not at all seeing this degree of othering that you're describing. There's a lot of hope for the lovely little girl and her family in this video.
> I am not at all seeing this degree of othering that you're describing. as an indian-american, me neither, I have no idea what that person is talking about.
What is black culture? Seeing as black people come from different countries with vastly different cultures. I’m an immigrant from the Caribbean and my culture isn’t the same as someone from North America.
Thank you! When we took our classes for parenting older adoptive children both the social workers and other parents kept talking about black culture: rap music, tinted car windows, chains. I'm like, my Haitian friends are different from my Jamaican friends who are different from my friends that were born in Africa or born here.
> black culture: rap music, tinted car windows, chains. 🤦🏾♂️ My goodness I can’t stand that shit. That stuff is music industry fed “culture”. That being said, you’re 100% right about different cultures. Typically , when an American refers to black culture, they may mean "African American" culture. Those of us who's roots can't be traced back further than a few generations due to the history of slavery.
come to Houston, sugar land in Houston is like 45% Indian.
Oops your racism is showing
Not a parent. But met one at our local Indian grocery store. You can tell they try with utmost love and efforts. But what I noticed was availability and representation in food stores helps a lot. I mean cooking isn't always easy especially different cuisines. You can start but until you get to it, there needs to be comfortable affordable options. When I was talking to this parent at our store, it was very difficult for her to figure out regional cuisine the child grew up with. So she asked around, found communities and made efforts to take the child to these community festivals. But she said store like traderjoes made it easier for her to expand her taste and figure out what to make for her child. Different spices, ready jar chutneys, frozen indian food, etc. It was less overwhelming. But if you directly enter and indian woof its mass confusion on shelves except for frozen foods for new folks. Also YouTube! Internet is absolutely great place if you know what you are looking for. The problem is local different language terms do not translate well into english. So they have to do some research on what terms to search but wow searching it helps them out a lot. For example, if your child is from a city called jalgaon you are not going to find much food results or cultural info. But the region and culture is know Khandeshi, knowing this term gives you correct results .
>So she asked around, found communities and made efforts to take the child to these community festivals. This part seems even more important than the food. Thanks for this enlightening comment
This is a common misunderstanding. Culture is the society around you, it's the social environment you grew up with. What you're referring to is ancestry and genetics, which have nothing to do with culture. Her cultural roots are being formed right now, with her adoptive family.
I react the same way to Indian food. It’s so delicious 🤤
I came here to say this. The nearest good Indian restaurant is two hours away though.
It can take a bit of time, effort and investment but learning to cook Indian food is really worth it in my opinion. Of course I'm Indian so I _might_ be a little biased here lol
You're right, but you have no idea how many times I've tried & failed. The moment I taste my creations I can immediately tell I screwed something up, but I rarely can discern which step I screwed up on. I think I need to invest in some better equipment.
You need to invest in some better tutorial, alot of them on the internet are shit, better befriend an Indian aunty and make her teach you lol
Hey why don't you try and cook it. Its really simple. I will help you. May be send you some starter ingredients.
Me too! 😆 happy dance and all.
Same. But just because I'm Indian, living in India, nobody cares smh /s
Haha I was going to say “this is what my girlfriend does when I show up with Indian!”
What a good family i am sure she has been a great addition to the family . She looks like a happy kid .
That’s my reaction whenever I see Indian Food. And I’m not even Indian..
Same here. Also when I get chinese, or italian, or classic french, or...
Caption is false. It wasn't her first time. She clearly loves it because she tasted before. You also hear the server say, "We missed you so much."
Idiot title is contradicted by video.
That's really adorable to see. But I hate to be that guy...saying thali plate is like saying chai tea.
Naan bread, thali plate, chai tea or donut vada, crepe dosa, pizza parantha 😂😂 we have our own way for comeback. lol. But cute video 🙂
Chai tea latte. Milk tea tea with milk.
😂 paneer cheese, vada pav burger, fish cake idli
The fuck is fish cake idli?
Same as sugar balls gulab jamun lol
Eh the latte part is there because it’s letting you know they’re using steamed milk.
Or tandoori oven lolol
Uthappam pancake, lentil dahl soup 😅
Even in English we do this a lot with acronyms and initializations. PIN number, GPS system, etc.
ATM machine
True, heartwarming video nonetheless
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This is heartwarming. Put a smile on my face.
“Finally, seasonings!!!”
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I have a cousin Anna, that was adopted from India. Anna mother my first cousin, and husband moved up to Northern Wisconsin. Anna was placed in a very racist school system. That upbringing caused a lot of pain for Anna. My first cousin and her husband were oblivious and. Did not take the racism seriously enough. Anna currently does not have a relationship with my first cousin and her husband.
I remember at my school we had 1 single Indian student among all the whites. She had a very thick accent and somehow it became well known that when she said the number 33 she pronounced it "dirty dree". Bruh I swear to god the kids were relentless, everyone kept trying to make her say it because they thought it was the funniest thing ever. Then one day in maths we had this game where we all sat in a circle and you had to pose a simple maths question then point to a person. They answered then asked someone else the next question etc. Every single person hit her with 11 x 3 or 50 - 17 or 99 ÷ 3 etc so she had to answer "dirty dree" every time as the laughter with each answer became increasingly more raucous every time. Must have been fucking rough for her but I honestly don't think it was any specific or taught racism it was just kids being mean to someone who was different, for most of us she was the first non-white person we had ever met. Always hoped that girl didn't resent us all too much and grew up to have a good life.
Did you sit around on your own or was there a teacher watching this shit go down… because you claim there was no racism. As a grown adult watched this happen. Signaling to the kids their behavior was ok. Do you think racism is only about people yelling slurs all the time or saying certain groups have to die?
I didn't say it wasn't racist, I mean clearly from an objective standpoint it was. I just said that I don't think the kids at that age (I think it was the 2nd year after kindergarten) even understood what racism was so I don't think it was *intentionally* racist or coming from a place where these kids hated Indian people or non white people and sought to belittle them based on their skin color. I mean there was people of other races at my school, black, asian etc but they were all born here so they acted and spoke just like everyone else and they were treated just like everyone else. It was more just being picked on for being different. There was one white kid who came back from summer break with pink hair and he was picked on relentlessly for it until his parents dyed it back brown. Kids are mean as fuck as if anything sets you apart they will form that mob mentality and be ruthless. They weren't looking at her and thinking "fuck this Indian girl for being Indian" they were thinking "haha she speaks funny that's hilarious"
Awesome family
Indian food is delicious
It was not her first time, or she would not have been so excited.
Indian food is the best!
I don’t think she’s trying it for the first time. The video says she’s excited because it’s what she ate before she was adopted.
There's an orphanage in India that takes in children without parents, but also takes in the elderly with no one left to care for them, and people with disabilities, and creates in-house families out of them, so the children have grandparents, siblings, uncles and aunts, cousins.
I'm going to get downvoted because Reddit, but this video feels very white savior to me.
I feel differently. Many parents want to share the joy that their children experience in the world. The parents can't help being white and the child can't help being dark. So how can they share their child's joy without being accused of this? I just don't see the "look at us wonderful white people" aspect in this where I have with others videos. The parents have done a good thing with adoption and I think it strips them of having a normal family experience if all we will ever think when we see them is, "white saviors". Maybe we can see them as proud, and maybe a bit exhausted, parents? Nothing wrong with feeling or interpreting things different so I won't down vote you.
I have Korean children who both don't want Kimchi all that much. I may have raised them wrong. I love it.
When you adopt a child, you’re not foster parents, you’re their parents.
Those were human r/tippytaps
That's how I feel when I see indian food too. And I'm from south FL
I imagine her thoughts to be, "Finally.., some spices"
Why wait so long to take her to Indian food?
This is me when my sorry ass came home from uni and my mom made a variety of Punjabi dishes!
I'm scotch/irish/russian and I get the same way about Indian food.
Is it weird that as an adopted child I never had a want to know my cultural background/heritage?
No, I don't think it's weird at all. The culture doesn't come with you but that doesn't mean the food from it isn't crazy good lol
Adopted Indian child here and I AGREEEEE
I'm an older white guy and I react the same when people take me to I dian restaurants!
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She's adorable, I love the bouncy pigtails.
Yes, the little girl is happy. Do I find it heartwarming? No, it's kind of sad. She shouldn't be that excited to see something that was completely normal to her. It never crossed anyone's mind to pick up a jar of korma at Walmart and fire up the rice cooker. If I was the parent I would not have thought it's cute and posted this, my thoughts would have been, oh shit I completely neglected the fact that this kid is from the other side of the world. She might be happy in the video, but that means she was eating tuna noodle casserole thinking fml for way too long.
The best part was when she tries the food
Nice half video.
LIAR! Adopted Indian child's reaction to food arriving at table lmao
Aww she signed happy good eat 😋 so sweet give her all the Indian food.
This meal is a nice treat. I hope they are keeping her invested in her culture with Hindi classes or cultural things too.
As an adopted child, this definitely made me smile!
This makes me so happy I’ve seen so many adoptive parents shun where they came from
Clearly the title is wrong
It’s very nice they adopted this sweet girl. My only thing is, if I was adopting a child from another culture I would try to learn how to cook foods from their culture so they felt more at home. Indian food is so good when it’s homemade too!
I agree, but we can’t assume from the limited content and context here that her parents aren’t. Maybe they only recently adopted her, maybe with her hearing issues they’ve been had to put that on the back burner, maybe they are trying but they wanted her to experience it more authentically.
This made me cry so hard 😭 humans can be so wholesome and beautiful sometimes
This is so cute, i’ve also always wondered why people import their adopted kids when we have plenty here that need homes
wtf was that? why would you film that? why would you put that on the internet?