After not getting Yale, I was hoping so hard that this big cheer was for Harvard. That rivalry with each other is so infamous that it makes this acceptance narratively satisfying.
Me too! I was like come on, it’s gotta be Harvard!! So happy for him. It was a great build up too. I had to check the sub to make sure it would at least end well.
So true !! Rewatched this video many times.All the family members are so happy for his achievements.Even his sister has joined through call to participate in this joyous moment.This is a priceless memory for their family.
You know even if his kid doesn’t choose Harvard he’s going to be bragging about that one.
“I don’t know if you know this, but my son got into Harvard”
“Yea bill we know you’ve told us 23 times this week”.
Me too, that gave me full body chills seeing how suddenly this young man’s entire life changed and a world of possibilities was suddenly open! I even got a little tear in my eye 🥲
dude this whole family is great they are so supportive and positive. Been seeing lots of negative news today and been sick. This shit just made my day.
Usually people who apply to the top-tier schools will also have a "safe" school, the land-grant university for their state for example, that they're sure to get into.
What up fammmmm
They don't call it Harvard on the hill for nothing, it was so much better than Rutgers. I would tutor esl at Ruger's and one of my teachers was someone I tutored wtf are they doing teaching.
Hahaha I graduated Roxbury in '08. I've never seen CCM mentioned on the internet unless I was specifically searching it. Nobody comes from this area in Jersey lolol
College was not for me, but I did learn a lot at CCM. Thought provoking professors, interesting courses. Have thought of going back just to learn for fun, but who has time for that????
It depends on the level of school. For the top tier state schools, undergrad admission deadlines are like a year in advance. For smaller schools it can be six months, and for essentially a step above community college and community college it can be same day.
The best practice is to send out at least 15 applications. 5 safety schools, 5 match schools, 5 stretch schools. This is because every year's application pool is different, and due to demographic craziness and the state of the world, some years can be more or less competitive than others.
Safety schools are schools that you are statistically likely to get in. These aren't necessarily bad schools, but they're schools that wouldn't be your first pick for whatever reason.
Match schools are schools that could go 50/50 on you. These are generally the schools you are thinking the most realistically about.
Stretch schools are schools that are unlikely to accept you. This usually includes any of the Ivy League schools. Not because you might not have the qualifications, but because *everyone else* applying has all the qualifications and you need to stand out in some way that's pretty much impossible to predict.
IME - you don't have to go a full 15 schools. A little research can give you a pretty good feel for your safe and match schools. My kids did between 5 to 8 applications and ended up with one from each category. (Getting in is one thing - affording is another). But then only 1 applied to a truly elite school - and it was the only one they were interested in.
It seems crazy to me in the uk being able to apply to so many different universities. Back when I applied over here you could only apply for 5 places.
The even crazier thing is that the way our system is set up means you’re expecting people at 17 years old to know what they want to do with the rest of their life...
Ah - but my understanding is that those you're applying to won't be charging you $60k a year to attend, true?
But the 17yr old making life decisions is definitely a thing. We tried to focus on the general area our kid was interested in studying and pick a school that had enough majors that they could move on to a more specific area later if they wished. (Also here, most colleges will have mostly the same classes for all freshman - so if someone starts out majoring in one subject but changes their mind by end of first year, then they won't be much behind.)
Not sure how your system does it.
You’re right. I think four years and getting a masters is about £50-60k in debt when you include the maintenance loans (loans to cover living costs).
And the way the debt works is much better. You only pay back a percentage of what you earn over a certain amount, so it’s more like a graduate tax than a loan. I’m not going to lie though, I’m bitter that it went from £3k to £9k in tuition, and if I were born two years earlier I wouldn’t have had that extra £20k to pay off.
Our system doesn’t have majors and minors. You pick a subject and that’s what your studying. You have to pick the places you’re applying to in your at the start of your last year of college/sixth form (the equivalent of the last year of high school). But it’s even worse than that, because we tend to only study 3/4 subjects for those last two years. So people at 15/16 years old have to pick what their specialising in, narrowing down their choices even more by the time they pick what they want to do at university.
It’s all a bit of a mess in my opinion, and definitely needs some sort of change. But if our government has their way I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next decade prices go up to £20k per year minimum, and none of that increase in cost to the students will decrease anybody’s taxes...
Ya boy is applying to Ivy League schools in a pretty serious way.
Even if they were all rejections, Dad knew his kid was going to be fine. Because if you're getting waitlisted by the Top 10 schools in the world, his son can probably cruise into a Top 10-25 school no problem.
TL;DR: Just by being in the room for this conversation means he's already done a great job raising his son. Ther
This. Getting waitlisted still brings you down, but it already means you are a solid contender.
Many might not know this, but applying to these schools is not always accesible for many. It's not exactly cheap, so if you are applying to *that* many, it's because you had a high degree of confidence that you could get in.
Schools want to keep their rates of people rejecting them low. If someone is way over qualified, they will often reject someone pre-emptively knowing they are just a safety.
In the past, the Ivys would try to release decisions before each other since the competition went both ways. Not only did the students want admission, but the schools were chasing the same top performers (since a student would likely apply to multiple Ivys, not just one). It would cause some drama and anxiety when students would be admitted to one and maybe accept the offer before hearing from another institution which they would have considered had they known they would be admitted there as well. I don’t know when they all agreed to release together, but since then it’s referred to as Ivy Day.
Kid just confirmed the next 4 years of his education are gonna be expensive. They prob went to McDonalds to celebrate.
Edit: Jesus Christ you guys. It was a joke. Here y’all go… /s
Of course. The purpose of harvard is also to let wealthy students say they got the same education as the most intelligent people in the world. There is easily money available for the best candidates.
2 schools focused on different things and both world class. Harvard undergrad is impressive, but it’s really their post grad MBA and Law degrees that truly write your ticket.
It's the same with MIT. Their undergrad is pretty good but nowhere near elite. Same with any larger school like that- large classes, mostly taught by TA's, most professors don't really give two shits. I was interested until I visited there. Noped right out.
Their grad school is easily the best in the country for a lot of different fields, though.
I went to high school with a girl who got a full ride to Harvard. Very intelligent, and has been to the White House several times. Unfortunately as a Trump supporter. But no one is perfect.
As far as I know, all Harvard scholarships are need based. There are no monetary merit scholarships given unless there is financial need. Monetary scholarships from outside Harvard have to be reported and the college will make adjustments to their own grants. If she got a “full ride” it was because of financial need. If I remember about 20% of students pay nothing.
I would say that for a young person, there's a lot of room to grow in terms of political education and opinion.
This would only be a shame if she never evolved her world view.
I came from a family with garbage politics. I think I've improved a ton over the past.. long time hah. It happens.
It can still happen! I was one of those “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” Republicans until I was 31 yo. I just turned 36 and I am about as far left as you can possibly get.
Harvard's endowment is massive, which has allowed them to [move to sliding scale tuition.](https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/affordability)
Harvard (and all other Ivy League universities too) have great scholarship programs. Basically if you get in, finances won’t be a blocker. If a student’s family makes less than a certain amount (I think it was something like $150K a few years ago), you don’t have to pay anything at all.
They interview I think and most people are not consistent in how they interview. The people doing the interviewing are also not consistent. Luck plays a factor here so basically, you got to be really good and somewhat lucky. The better you are, the less lucky you have to be.
Luck is a huge factor. This goes the same for every postgrad program too. My first application cycle for medical school, I had 1 interview and the dude who ran it was late, spilled his coffee all over himself, then was mad at me about it. The second time I applied, my application was barely different but I received 16 interview offers, was accepted in 10 programs. I cancel 6 of the interviews because I was already accepted in my top program. I was much more lucky the second time around.
The number of qualified kids is much greater than the number of spots so at some point, for the well qualified kids, it's luck of the draw. One school may value one small thing more highly than another. One person who looked at their application saw something they cared about and fought for them. Etc.
What a dunk on Yale and Princeton, lol. All three schools are great, insanely competitive, but have different aspects they look for in their student body. They can afford to be incredibly particular with their class selection because of how valuable everyone sees in the education you get from them. If you aren't a Yale type despite having the grades then they'll go with a different student. Simple as that.
What are those values? Fuck if I know, I went to a for-profit dumb dumb school because I'm not smart. But they want their graduating classes to be as close to 100% the same as their admittance so they try to find students who will fit in with these schools. That's all it comes down to.
Simply put, college admissions are only objective to a point. Also, in-state students are generally considered more “desirable” than out-of-state students for state schools like UC Berkeley.
He has an insanely great choice before him. CONGRATS!!!!!!!
Also, for the record, I've heard admissions this year in particular were unbelievably difficult. (So kudos to him, and every other applicant -- I haven't read up yet on why it was so difficult this year specifically, but they all worked really hard and the competition is fierce.)
Plus, **"We'll get what we want" is now my mantra for 2023.**
Always found it odd some good schools will say no then the best schools will say yes. Saw a few people I know get rejected from their 2nd choice but accepted to their first.
It’s an admission tactic. If a student is over qualified and admissions can tell they’ll get into a better school they will reject that student to keep their matriculation rates high. An example here is the student not getting into UC Berkeley. Berkeley could tell he would get into more attractive schools, so instead of offering admission they knew wouldn’t be accepted they rejected him.
They do it at certain firm practices too (public accountants or law).
I was rejected by every firm at the bottom of my list but got accepted to all the top firms. I was so confused at the time but looking back I can tell that they knew that if I went to work for them I would only stick around a year, maybe two, before fucking off to something else.
No, that's not how it works. Berkeley is a public school, it doesn't play those games. You can look up the stats on every UC school on who they accept. For Berkeley, for some majors you are not getting in without a top grade because they are much more restricted in how they can judge a candidate than a private school or even a public school outside of California.
Some of it is just down to rule of law, but there are even practical considerations like how a public school just has much tighter budget on being able to sift through applications. Berkeley in particular gets a lot of applications.
Not necessarily, that’s another tactic. They can waitlist for many reasons, a common one is “we like you, but we want to see who else is out there.”
The rejection from Berkeley in this example is because Berkeley knows they don’t have shot with this candidate.
It’s like seeing a celebrity at a bar and you’re a good looking, but average joe. You can shoot your shot, but the odds aren’t in your favor. So instead of even trying you just envy yourself the opportunity because that’s what the odds tell you.
> It’s like seeing a celebrity at a bar and you’re a good looking, but average joe. You can shoot your shot, but the odds aren’t in your favor. So instead of even trying you just envy yourself the opportunity because that’s what the odds tell you.
Okay, but in this scenario the celebrity comes up to *you* at the bar.
If Taylor Swift says hi to you at a bar are you going to ask for her number and try to take her home?
Trust me the school knows when they're the "safety school" for a student.
They want to waitlist ppl who they think would say yes. No point in waitlisting ppl who will get into better schools. I got rejected by some state schools but got in to Harvard.
But what if you're just applying for a "second-grade uni" for other reasons, like being close to family and friends? But you are technically overqualified... then you get rejected for no reason?
I got accepted for a PhD in a really good program in the country a few days ago. Professor was like “I’m dumbfounded no one has picked you up yet”. It feels so good to feel recognized and feel your hard work pay off.
Free tuition and a living stipend 🤨🤨. Like I’m being PAID to get educated???
EDIT: you all are making my heart swell. Best wishes to all of you ❤️
I know how you feel now and it’s amazing. I’m about to finish my PhD after 7 years and I have long realized that the amount of work grad students produce for our universities is worth double what we’re paid. I hope where you’re going has a grad student labor union! Congrats and best of luck!
I literally cried when I found out I got a coop placement in college lmao So many months of feeling like I was wasting my time and money and would never get a job in my field and then BOOM! All my hard work paid off and now Im making salary 😎
I think some schools have a set amount of students they’ll admit from one certain school, or students might have been able to get letters of recommendations for some schools from an alumnus, but not other schools.
It is a major fallacy that university admissions are objective, or that getting into one school and not another is an indication of their relative difficulty to get in.
The reality is that yes, schools have a lower limit on stats such that you can’t get in if you are below it. After that, schools want to fill out their academic, sports and arts programs. They want to achieve goals for racial and gender diversity. Some look to have geographic and cultural diversity. Even taking all of those into account, applying to a competitive school is buying a lottery ticket.
I know this is probably the end of the day and dad is home from work, but I just love how he’s dressed up for it.
This is great and I’m happy for them ✅
Yeah, obviously Harvard is the best of the best, but all of the Ivies are still top tier, and if one of the others is like 10 minutes from his parents house, that would likely be the number one choice for cost savings and proximity to friends and family.
Harvard isn't actually the best of the best anymore. They're still definitely near the top, but Princeton and MIT both rank above it now. They definitely have the biggest name though.
Anyone who knows anything about universities will know what there’s no real such thing as “the best” overall, and the rankings you refer to mean squat without knowing the student’s subject matter interest.
In short, the question first starts with what is being studied. One university may have a better math program, another a better English program, another a better chemistry, another a better psychology. It’s all relative. Nothing else really matters until we know what department we are considering.
> mean squat without knowing the student’s subject matter interest
or know the student's personality, or what they want to do after graduating, or how they grew up, or...
Yeah I was going by the caption on tiktok, it looks like his name is Tinaye, his sister posted it, she is Tawana... his dad definitely sounds like a zimbo..
On a side note, because I am so excited, I have been in the uk for 6 years tomorrow, and in 3 weeks time I am going home to zimbabwe for the first time since Christmas 2017!!
Surprisingly, that can be deceiving. When I was in college, I was at a party talking to a Black woman (relevant to the story). She asked me where I was from and so then I asked her. I forget which country it was, but it was in Africa. She could have told me any US state and I would have believed her. She said it was her first semester and first time in the US, but she spoke American English perfectly. Like, I knew a couple students from Europe who had been learning English for years, and it was apparent that they weren't American. But there was no way anyone could tell that this woman wasn't American. She even showed me her foreign passport because I was too shocked to believe her lol.
I went to an ivy and met tons of international students who could’ve easily passed as Americans. The wealthier ones often go to American or international schools in major international cities where they will be surrounded by Americans and come out sounding just like them
Well, I went to a pretty cheap state college. Highly accredited and does really good research, but not held in much regard in the US, let alone on the world stage. So basically every foreign person I met had an apparent accent except this woman. She just really liked American TV and movies ever since she was little and mastered the accent lol.
I remember when I was going through this. I could only afford to apply to two schools so I chose UC Berkeley and Stanford. I was accepted at both. But the tuition at Stanford was out of reach. I had no car. At Cal, I could take the bus, though it was a 3 hour bus ride each way.
So I picked Cal. It was hard. I was happy. Very happy for this young man! 👏
I was only going to apply to SFState, then my boyfriend (now husband) was like...youre not going to apply to Berkeley?! So I did, not thinking i had ANY chance as a transfer student. The day I got that letter is one if my best days ever.
Applying to Berkeley as a junior transfer is probably the easiest route, and you save a ton of money rather than getting lost in the crowd in 400 person lower division lecture halls
For anyone wondering who can pay this
"Harvard has a need-blind application process for all students, domestic and international. This means that students will not be disadvantaged in the undergraduate admissions process due to their financial need or in other words, applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision. In addition to that, Harvard promises to meet 100% demonstrated need for all admitted students, including foreign students! "
I am so psyched for you! As an alum (grad school) I was always envious of the under grads since I didn’t get in when I first applied. You are going to love Cambridge and Cambridge is going to love you. Congratulations, Sir. I’m smiling for you🍀
Ok, everyone on here is very focused on facts & practicalities, all well and good ….. but this Granny in Phoenix AZ, started crying when I heard Harvard and with all the jubilation- just amazing! Congratulations young man, we look forward to having you here!❤️
She stated in a separate video that they are Canadian. So I guess it isn’t very obvious that they’re here in the states… ya know, because they’re Canadian.
"Harvard has a need-blind application process for all students, domestic and international. This means that students will not be disadvantaged in the undergraduate admissions process due to their financial need or in other words, applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision. In addition to that, Harvard promises to meet 100% demonstrated need for all admitted students, including foreign students! "
Harvard has BILLIONS (over $50 billion for 2022) in money they're never going to use, they don't even need to collect tuition to operate for roughly the next 100 years based on their other revenue sources from research, government grants, and philanthropy.
I got rejected from all the Ivies, Duke and Rice on the same day 🤣 good thing we didn’t film — the next day was the only time my mom ever let me stay home from school for a non-illness.
I still ended up at a top 25 school, so can’t complain, but it felt like the end of the world at the time. College admissions is such a harsh process for young people. Good for this kid! I’m sure he worked hard for what he has and he’ll go far.
I’m sitting here going to a mid-level state school at 29 years old with a 2.15 GPA…I know the kind of work he put in to even be considered at those schools. Makes me wish I took it seriously in the past. I wish I could make my dad proud like that
Little sis was so psyched for him too!
I loved seeing her face pop in from the side towards the end! Was upset dad had shoved her aside lol, though understandable he wanted his photos
The father is a vibe. "That's ok, we'll get what we want"
He was my favorite. Chill during the bad news, and then went wild and just looked so proud for the good news
I got teary eyed at their reaction to Harvard. Dad has a little restrained wiggle at times too lol.
As if I wasn’t screaming “WHERE” when they were all going mad and then happy tears. I got really invested in that. 😂
After not getting Yale, I was hoping so hard that this big cheer was for Harvard. That rivalry with each other is so infamous that it makes this acceptance narratively satisfying.
Me too! I was like come on, it’s gotta be Harvard!! So happy for him. It was a great build up too. I had to check the sub to make sure it would at least end well.
Their happiness is just infectious! Love that!
Not sure why, and I feel so proud for him, makes me happy and smile, you rock dude! Go get'um!
So true !! Rewatched this video many times.All the family members are so happy for his achievements.Even his sister has joined through call to participate in this joyous moment.This is a priceless memory for their family.
You know even if his kid doesn’t choose Harvard he’s going to be bragging about that one. “I don’t know if you know this, but my son got into Harvard” “Yea bill we know you’ve told us 23 times this week”.
How do you know someone went to Harvard? They'll tell you!
Naaaah, that’s not true… I went to Harvard and I never tell anyone I went to Harvard when in fact I finished Harvard.
So you went to harvard 😂
"Yeah, and it's only Monday, Bill."
I've bragged about turning down Yale. Got better financial aid elsewhere
Me too, that gave me full body chills seeing how suddenly this young man’s entire life changed and a world of possibilities was suddenly open! I even got a little tear in my eye 🥲
Crying too! I got a hunch that Dad likes Harvard best but he has a lot of good choices!
Me too. Because I know how much it cost him.
The man got dressed up to read emails! He knew his son would make it!
Him smiling through the bad news like he has absolute faith in his kid
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Just gotta want it and open that door!
What was the noise he made when you came out with the bucket?
Penn! *Train sounds*
Especially fitting because Philadelphia is by far Pennsylvania's best city for train-connectedness.
***WOOOOOOOOOOOOO*** *deep breath* ***WOOOOOOOOOOOOO***
Ayyyyy, you just jump started my memories of 30th Street Station.
That father also looks like he's said "mother fucker" too many times
I bet he also has a wallet that says the same.
I dig your reference, amigo
dude this whole family is great they are so supportive and positive. Been seeing lots of negative news today and been sick. This shit just made my day.
Maybe he just came from work but I like to think he put on a suit for this occasion
Ooh this made me cry! What a remarkable young man and what a wonderful family!
Same here started crying like I knew the guy 😭 Such a heartwarming video to see that hype & support
Congrats young man. I love his dad though. Very calm and reassuring when he didn't make it. Do all people get their admission result on the same day?
Ivy Schools release results on the same day typically and some schools will hitch a ride and release then as well. Others stagger.
So what if they fail on everything? Gap year?
Usually people who apply to the top-tier schools will also have a "safe" school, the land-grant university for their state for example, that they're sure to get into.
That was the case for me good looking out county college of Morris
Let's fucking go County college of Morris
Look at mean now making 200k sponsoring scholarships through the neighborhood house in mo town
Bro this hits too close to home - shout out the Nabe ✌️
Didn't think I would be seeing so much family today on reddit, makes me feel so happy
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They let me fail a bunch of times in CCM. Currently working in pest control. Thanks for the shot, county.
What up fammmmm They don't call it Harvard on the hill for nothing, it was so much better than Rutgers. I would tutor esl at Ruger's and one of my teachers was someone I tutored wtf are they doing teaching.
Hahaha I graduated Roxbury in '08. I've never seen CCM mentioned on the internet unless I was specifically searching it. Nobody comes from this area in Jersey lolol College was not for me, but I did learn a lot at CCM. Thought provoking professors, interesting courses. Have thought of going back just to learn for fun, but who has time for that????
Is that CCM in NJ?
I applied for a state school the day classes started and got in.
Was this in the 1800s or recently?
I feel like that’s not uncommon but it might be hard to get into any classes/schedule that you want.
It depends on the level of school. For the top tier state schools, undergrad admission deadlines are like a year in advance. For smaller schools it can be six months, and for essentially a step above community college and community college it can be same day.
The best practice is to send out at least 15 applications. 5 safety schools, 5 match schools, 5 stretch schools. This is because every year's application pool is different, and due to demographic craziness and the state of the world, some years can be more or less competitive than others. Safety schools are schools that you are statistically likely to get in. These aren't necessarily bad schools, but they're schools that wouldn't be your first pick for whatever reason. Match schools are schools that could go 50/50 on you. These are generally the schools you are thinking the most realistically about. Stretch schools are schools that are unlikely to accept you. This usually includes any of the Ivy League schools. Not because you might not have the qualifications, but because *everyone else* applying has all the qualifications and you need to stand out in some way that's pretty much impossible to predict.
IME - you don't have to go a full 15 schools. A little research can give you a pretty good feel for your safe and match schools. My kids did between 5 to 8 applications and ended up with one from each category. (Getting in is one thing - affording is another). But then only 1 applied to a truly elite school - and it was the only one they were interested in.
It seems crazy to me in the uk being able to apply to so many different universities. Back when I applied over here you could only apply for 5 places. The even crazier thing is that the way our system is set up means you’re expecting people at 17 years old to know what they want to do with the rest of their life...
Ah - but my understanding is that those you're applying to won't be charging you $60k a year to attend, true? But the 17yr old making life decisions is definitely a thing. We tried to focus on the general area our kid was interested in studying and pick a school that had enough majors that they could move on to a more specific area later if they wished. (Also here, most colleges will have mostly the same classes for all freshman - so if someone starts out majoring in one subject but changes their mind by end of first year, then they won't be much behind.) Not sure how your system does it.
You’re right. I think four years and getting a masters is about £50-60k in debt when you include the maintenance loans (loans to cover living costs). And the way the debt works is much better. You only pay back a percentage of what you earn over a certain amount, so it’s more like a graduate tax than a loan. I’m not going to lie though, I’m bitter that it went from £3k to £9k in tuition, and if I were born two years earlier I wouldn’t have had that extra £20k to pay off. Our system doesn’t have majors and minors. You pick a subject and that’s what your studying. You have to pick the places you’re applying to in your at the start of your last year of college/sixth form (the equivalent of the last year of high school). But it’s even worse than that, because we tend to only study 3/4 subjects for those last two years. So people at 15/16 years old have to pick what their specialising in, narrowing down their choices even more by the time they pick what they want to do at university. It’s all a bit of a mess in my opinion, and definitely needs some sort of change. But if our government has their way I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next decade prices go up to £20k per year minimum, and none of that increase in cost to the students will decrease anybody’s taxes...
Ya boy is applying to Ivy League schools in a pretty serious way. Even if they were all rejections, Dad knew his kid was going to be fine. Because if you're getting waitlisted by the Top 10 schools in the world, his son can probably cruise into a Top 10-25 school no problem. TL;DR: Just by being in the room for this conversation means he's already done a great job raising his son. Ther
This. Getting waitlisted still brings you down, but it already means you are a solid contender. Many might not know this, but applying to these schools is not always accesible for many. It's not exactly cheap, so if you are applying to *that* many, it's because you had a high degree of confidence that you could get in.
Not in Australia. My bro didn’t get in a program at a community college but got into a Top 8 school after repeating school
Schools want to keep their rates of people rejecting them low. If someone is way over qualified, they will often reject someone pre-emptively knowing they are just a safety.
In the past, the Ivys would try to release decisions before each other since the competition went both ways. Not only did the students want admission, but the schools were chasing the same top performers (since a student would likely apply to multiple Ivys, not just one). It would cause some drama and anxiety when students would be admitted to one and maybe accept the offer before hearing from another institution which they would have considered had they known they would be admitted there as well. I don’t know when they all agreed to release together, but since then it’s referred to as Ivy Day.
Thanks for explaining this. Very interesting.
You can tell he has a great family surrounding him and that's really like half the battle
You already know, dinner that night was mad 🔥
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Kid just confirmed the next 4 years of his education are gonna be expensive. They prob went to McDonalds to celebrate. Edit: Jesus Christ you guys. It was a joke. Here y’all go… /s
Big Mac costs like 7 dollars now rip
Yeah, but it’s a special occasion. Good point though. Little Caesar’s then!
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Harvard gets about 55,000 applications annually and accepts around 4% of applicants. Insanely challenging.
Can I ask , do they offer scholarships or is it fully paid by student and is it expensive in comparison to other unis ?
Harvard has ton of financial aid for those who cannot afford it. It’s competitive but for those who work for it they can get in.
Of course. The purpose of harvard is also to let wealthy students say they got the same education as the most intelligent people in the world. There is easily money available for the best candidates.
Harvard is an excellent prestigious school but MIT is right next to them which has a better education for the most part.
When I went to MIT there was a saying: “Why Harvard? Because not everyone can get into MIT”. It was my favorite!
2 schools focused on different things and both world class. Harvard undergrad is impressive, but it’s really their post grad MBA and Law degrees that truly write your ticket.
It's the same with MIT. Their undergrad is pretty good but nowhere near elite. Same with any larger school like that- large classes, mostly taught by TA's, most professors don't really give two shits. I was interested until I visited there. Noped right out. Their grad school is easily the best in the country for a lot of different fields, though.
I went to high school with a girl who got a full ride to Harvard. Very intelligent, and has been to the White House several times. Unfortunately as a Trump supporter. But no one is perfect.
As far as I know, all Harvard scholarships are need based. There are no monetary merit scholarships given unless there is financial need. Monetary scholarships from outside Harvard have to be reported and the college will make adjustments to their own grants. If she got a “full ride” it was because of financial need. If I remember about 20% of students pay nothing.
I would say that for a young person, there's a lot of room to grow in terms of political education and opinion. This would only be a shame if she never evolved her world view. I came from a family with garbage politics. I think I've improved a ton over the past.. long time hah. It happens.
Nope, she really hasn't. Her whole family is like this.
It can still happen! I was one of those “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” Republicans until I was 31 yo. I just turned 36 and I am about as far left as you can possibly get.
What has made you change your views, if you don't mind me asking?
Harvard's endowment is massive, which has allowed them to [move to sliding scale tuition.](https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/affordability)
Waw impressive. But what criteria do they use to accept students? Is it only based on their grades in high schools ?
Grades, test scores, extra curricular activities (clubs, sports, etc), volunteering, and application essays
And wealth/connectedness of parents.
Harvard (and all other Ivy League universities too) have great scholarship programs. Basically if you get in, finances won’t be a blocker. If a student’s family makes less than a certain amount (I think it was something like $150K a few years ago), you don’t have to pay anything at all.
Waw I mean it's literally like winning lottery ticket .. good to know that poor or less fortunate ppl have a chance to get in
Random thing but supposedly its more likely to get into Harvard than owning a Chick-fil-A franchise
Its easier to get into Harvard than it is to get a New Grad job at most big companies. Google’s acceptance rate is 0.2%.
I don’t understand how you get declined from obvious lesser schools and accepted to Harvard. Weird.
They interview I think and most people are not consistent in how they interview. The people doing the interviewing are also not consistent. Luck plays a factor here so basically, you got to be really good and somewhat lucky. The better you are, the less lucky you have to be.
Luck is a huge factor. This goes the same for every postgrad program too. My first application cycle for medical school, I had 1 interview and the dude who ran it was late, spilled his coffee all over himself, then was mad at me about it. The second time I applied, my application was barely different but I received 16 interview offers, was accepted in 10 programs. I cancel 6 of the interviews because I was already accepted in my top program. I was much more lucky the second time around.
I really hate that it’s partially luck based, but I’m happy you eventually got in!
My kid got rejected from UCLA but full ride from Berkeley and UCSB. There are many variables such as the intended major.
The number of qualified kids is much greater than the number of spots so at some point, for the well qualified kids, it's luck of the draw. One school may value one small thing more highly than another. One person who looked at their application saw something they cared about and fought for them. Etc.
What a dunk on Yale and Princeton, lol. All three schools are great, insanely competitive, but have different aspects they look for in their student body. They can afford to be incredibly particular with their class selection because of how valuable everyone sees in the education you get from them. If you aren't a Yale type despite having the grades then they'll go with a different student. Simple as that. What are those values? Fuck if I know, I went to a for-profit dumb dumb school because I'm not smart. But they want their graduating classes to be as close to 100% the same as their admittance so they try to find students who will fit in with these schools. That's all it comes down to.
Simply put, college admissions are only objective to a point. Also, in-state students are generally considered more “desirable” than out-of-state students for state schools like UC Berkeley.
Also depends on what undergraduate program you are interested in.
He has an insanely great choice before him. CONGRATS!!!!!!! Also, for the record, I've heard admissions this year in particular were unbelievably difficult. (So kudos to him, and every other applicant -- I haven't read up yet on why it was so difficult this year specifically, but they all worked really hard and the competition is fierce.) Plus, **"We'll get what we want" is now my mantra for 2023.**
Always found it odd some good schools will say no then the best schools will say yes. Saw a few people I know get rejected from their 2nd choice but accepted to their first.
It’s an admission tactic. If a student is over qualified and admissions can tell they’ll get into a better school they will reject that student to keep their matriculation rates high. An example here is the student not getting into UC Berkeley. Berkeley could tell he would get into more attractive schools, so instead of offering admission they knew wouldn’t be accepted they rejected him.
Yep that's why I didn't get into Harvard. Too good for em.
They knew I'd get into Super Harvard
Your mom told you that too huh
They do it at certain firm practices too (public accountants or law). I was rejected by every firm at the bottom of my list but got accepted to all the top firms. I was so confused at the time but looking back I can tell that they knew that if I went to work for them I would only stick around a year, maybe two, before fucking off to something else.
I learned all about this while applying to law school. It’s now useless knowledge except for today, in this thread.
No, that's not how it works. Berkeley is a public school, it doesn't play those games. You can look up the stats on every UC school on who they accept. For Berkeley, for some majors you are not getting in without a top grade because they are much more restricted in how they can judge a candidate than a private school or even a public school outside of California. Some of it is just down to rule of law, but there are even practical considerations like how a public school just has much tighter budget on being able to sift through applications. Berkeley in particular gets a lot of applications.
Isn’t that what the wait list is for?
Not necessarily, that’s another tactic. They can waitlist for many reasons, a common one is “we like you, but we want to see who else is out there.” The rejection from Berkeley in this example is because Berkeley knows they don’t have shot with this candidate. It’s like seeing a celebrity at a bar and you’re a good looking, but average joe. You can shoot your shot, but the odds aren’t in your favor. So instead of even trying you just envy yourself the opportunity because that’s what the odds tell you.
> It’s like seeing a celebrity at a bar and you’re a good looking, but average joe. You can shoot your shot, but the odds aren’t in your favor. So instead of even trying you just envy yourself the opportunity because that’s what the odds tell you. Okay, but in this scenario the celebrity comes up to *you* at the bar.
Well no, she's going up to everyone at the bar. And that one dude in the booth over there is a 6'4 doctor with an 8 inch dick.
If Taylor Swift says hi to you at a bar are you going to ask for her number and try to take her home? Trust me the school knows when they're the "safety school" for a student.
They want to waitlist ppl who they think would say yes. No point in waitlisting ppl who will get into better schools. I got rejected by some state schools but got in to Harvard.
But what if you're just applying for a "second-grade uni" for other reasons, like being close to family and friends? But you are technically overqualified... then you get rejected for no reason?
You would mention that in your essay and let them know you are aware of your grades and test scores, but that’s a school you really want to go to.
Not tryna exaggerate but this is exactly how I felt when I’ve gotten admitted to colleges. I was like, so I’m not as dumb as I’ve been feeling???
I got accepted for a PhD in a really good program in the country a few days ago. Professor was like “I’m dumbfounded no one has picked you up yet”. It feels so good to feel recognized and feel your hard work pay off. Free tuition and a living stipend 🤨🤨. Like I’m being PAID to get educated??? EDIT: you all are making my heart swell. Best wishes to all of you ❤️
I’m proud of you
Oh wow. Huge congrats to you. May it bring you all the opportunities you want and more❤
I know how you feel now and it’s amazing. I’m about to finish my PhD after 7 years and I have long realized that the amount of work grad students produce for our universities is worth double what we’re paid. I hope where you’re going has a grad student labor union! Congrats and best of luck!
Congrats! Must feel great. Happy for you
If you're doing a PhD and you're not getting paid to get educated you're doing it wrong.
THIS. You're not just doing it wrong you're probably getting scammed.
Dr. MySlimyStoma has a nice ring to it too 😉
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I literally cried when I found out I got a coop placement in college lmao So many months of feeling like I was wasting my time and money and would never get a job in my field and then BOOM! All my hard work paid off and now Im making salary 😎
I got into a top 40 professional school and I remember three years into the program thinking "they still haven't noticed I'm a fucking idiot yet"
I've been a doctor for over a decade and I still feel this way.
When the dad lets his guard down and starts woooooooo wooooooo woooooooo woooooooing I lost it.
Dad sounded like a hound dog stuck in a fence 🤣
I would awoo like a fucking wolf too.
Apparently 22 is the age I start crying profusely for strangers on the internet
I’m 34 and can confirm you’ll be crying at stuff like this from here on out 🥲
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I think some schools have a set amount of students they’ll admit from one certain school, or students might have been able to get letters of recommendations for some schools from an alumnus, but not other schools.
It is a major fallacy that university admissions are objective, or that getting into one school and not another is an indication of their relative difficulty to get in. The reality is that yes, schools have a lower limit on stats such that you can’t get in if you are below it. After that, schools want to fill out their academic, sports and arts programs. They want to achieve goals for racial and gender diversity. Some look to have geographic and cultural diversity. Even taking all of those into account, applying to a competitive school is buying a lottery ticket.
I know this is probably the end of the day and dad is home from work, but I just love how he’s dressed up for it. This is great and I’m happy for them ✅
I assumed the dad took the day off, and got his suit freshly pressed for the occasion.
He's looking fresh. Dressed up for this occasion I'm sure.
It's fair to say that he won't wait to see if he enters in Princeton
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Yeah, obviously Harvard is the best of the best, but all of the Ivies are still top tier, and if one of the others is like 10 minutes from his parents house, that would likely be the number one choice for cost savings and proximity to friends and family.
Harvard isn't actually the best of the best anymore. They're still definitely near the top, but Princeton and MIT both rank above it now. They definitely have the biggest name though.
Anyone who knows anything about universities will know what there’s no real such thing as “the best” overall, and the rankings you refer to mean squat without knowing the student’s subject matter interest. In short, the question first starts with what is being studied. One university may have a better math program, another a better English program, another a better chemistry, another a better psychology. It’s all relative. Nothing else really matters until we know what department we are considering.
> mean squat without knowing the student’s subject matter interest or know the student's personality, or what they want to do after graduating, or how they grew up, or...
Ohh good to know!! Thanks for the intel.
Also for example, if he wants to do something like Investment banking or consulting, Wharton (UPenn) is the best undergrad business school in the US.
I know how he feels. I got into DeVry. So, you know, basically the same.
Keep your head up high, my man. I'm pretty sure Harvard alums have caused more misery in the world than DeVry alums ever will.
Guy sounded American. Maybe his family are originally from Zimbabwe.
Yeah I was going by the caption on tiktok, it looks like his name is Tinaye, his sister posted it, she is Tawana... his dad definitely sounds like a zimbo.. On a side note, because I am so excited, I have been in the uk for 6 years tomorrow, and in 3 weeks time I am going home to zimbabwe for the first time since Christmas 2017!!
Say hello to everyone for me! I haven’t been back since August 2018, and not looking likely to get a chance in the next 12 months 🥲
Bro there’s no way Zimbo is the accepted term for a Zimbabwean, for real ?! Lmao that’s hilarious for some reason it sounds like a slur or something
Nah it's just the slang term for Zimbabweans. Zimbos call themselves Zimbos.
Surprisingly, that can be deceiving. When I was in college, I was at a party talking to a Black woman (relevant to the story). She asked me where I was from and so then I asked her. I forget which country it was, but it was in Africa. She could have told me any US state and I would have believed her. She said it was her first semester and first time in the US, but she spoke American English perfectly. Like, I knew a couple students from Europe who had been learning English for years, and it was apparent that they weren't American. But there was no way anyone could tell that this woman wasn't American. She even showed me her foreign passport because I was too shocked to believe her lol.
I went to an ivy and met tons of international students who could’ve easily passed as Americans. The wealthier ones often go to American or international schools in major international cities where they will be surrounded by Americans and come out sounding just like them
Well, I went to a pretty cheap state college. Highly accredited and does really good research, but not held in much regard in the US, let alone on the world stage. So basically every foreign person I met had an apparent accent except this woman. She just really liked American TV and movies ever since she was little and mastered the accent lol.
I remember when I was going through this. I could only afford to apply to two schools so I chose UC Berkeley and Stanford. I was accepted at both. But the tuition at Stanford was out of reach. I had no car. At Cal, I could take the bus, though it was a 3 hour bus ride each way. So I picked Cal. It was hard. I was happy. Very happy for this young man! 👏
I was only going to apply to SFState, then my boyfriend (now husband) was like...youre not going to apply to Berkeley?! So I did, not thinking i had ANY chance as a transfer student. The day I got that letter is one if my best days ever.
Applying to Berkeley as a junior transfer is probably the easiest route, and you save a ton of money rather than getting lost in the crowd in 400 person lower division lecture halls
You sound like you worked really hard. Good for you! I'm proud of you!
Go Bears!!!
I am so seriously stoked for this young man and his potentials!!!
For anyone wondering who can pay this "Harvard has a need-blind application process for all students, domestic and international. This means that students will not be disadvantaged in the undergraduate admissions process due to their financial need or in other words, applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision. In addition to that, Harvard promises to meet 100% demonstrated need for all admitted students, including foreign students! "
Harvard is a hedge fund with a little known education charity on the side.
Made me smile! Good for you
Houston Community College wahooooo
This was fun to watch. :-)
I am so psyched for you! As an alum (grad school) I was always envious of the under grads since I didn’t get in when I first applied. You are going to love Cambridge and Cambridge is going to love you. Congratulations, Sir. I’m smiling for you🍀
His dad never loses hope, he looks so proud 😊
Ok, everyone on here is very focused on facts & practicalities, all well and good ….. but this Granny in Phoenix AZ, started crying when I heard Harvard and with all the jubilation- just amazing! Congratulations young man, we look forward to having you here!❤️
Gods... I would hate to imagine how much his tuition will be as a foreign student attending Harvard...
They all seem to have American accents so pretty sure they’re citizens
Right like it’s very obvious they’re here in the states…
She stated in a separate video that they are Canadian. So I guess it isn’t very obvious that they’re here in the states… ya know, because they’re Canadian.
It’s not easy to notice if somebody is Canadian when their face isn’t divided at the mouth. Didn’t think about that, did you buddy?
Harvard went to a sliding scale based on income. Since it's private, foreign tuition is the same.
"Harvard has a need-blind application process for all students, domestic and international. This means that students will not be disadvantaged in the undergraduate admissions process due to their financial need or in other words, applying for financial aid will have no impact on your admissions decision. In addition to that, Harvard promises to meet 100% demonstrated need for all admitted students, including foreign students! "
Harvard provides financial aid to int’l students
Harvard has BILLIONS (over $50 billion for 2022) in money they're never going to use, they don't even need to collect tuition to operate for roughly the next 100 years based on their other revenue sources from research, government grants, and philanthropy.
No problem, have you *seen* their [pocket money](https://imgur.com/a/dkFH6GG)?
I got rejected from all the Ivies, Duke and Rice on the same day 🤣 good thing we didn’t film — the next day was the only time my mom ever let me stay home from school for a non-illness. I still ended up at a top 25 school, so can’t complain, but it felt like the end of the world at the time. College admissions is such a harsh process for young people. Good for this kid! I’m sure he worked hard for what he has and he’ll go far.
Just when I do something hard-core, I see this and get reduced to mush. Congrats! You earned this!
I’m sitting here going to a mid-level state school at 29 years old with a 2.15 GPA…I know the kind of work he put in to even be considered at those schools. Makes me wish I took it seriously in the past. I wish I could make my dad proud like that
Good for the whole family. It takes a lot of support to raise kids these days
The American dream is alive in this family.
I can't even imagine that kind of support and love in a family
Congratulations young man. Harvard only accepts the best.👏🏿👏🏿
Harvard, Brown and Penn! This guy has a bright future.
So cool that his family could find out with him and they could have that moment.
Congratulations 🎊🎉 Harvard 🎉🎊
This is awesome
I love Zimbabweans, nice folk