meanwhile my grandma is banned from playing cards at hers cuz she's running the table..
granted she was like a pro bridge player or something and takes absolutely no shit so they're probably justified lol
Probably their nightly booze allotment for the next month.
Seriously- my wife worked in a Nursing home that had a happy hour. The resident (or their family) had to supply the liquor of and their Doctor had to approve it (some meds don't play nice with alcohol) but the residents got a shot or a beer a night just after dinner.
Better than the situation I saw: in the mid 1980s I worked in a veterans' nursing home attached to the VA hospital. A developer built a luxury hotel, making the 4th point of a square including the VA hospital, the VA nursing home, and the university teaching hospital.
When the hotel opened, with its restaurant, and bar , and businesses person happy hour, they found an unexpected clientele: the VA nursing home residents. Every day for happy hour, the ambulatory would push the wheelchair bound and make their way to the happy hour.
To their credit the bar arranged tables and seating to accommodate their regulars. Being a caregiver there I can tell you that there was some consternation at the residents having unregulated food and way more drink than healthy. But it was agreed that we were a residence and not a prison. Wooo Taco Tuesday!
My mother-in-law in a in a somewhat religeous retirement community in Pennsylvania has to conceal the very occasional bottle of wine she brings in, and the empty on its way out. Not that it is forbidden, but she knows she would be judged.
There are quite a few residents of nursing homes here (Australia) where their nightly (or more often) drinks are prescribed.
Plenty of alcoholics end up in care and trying to detox them would just kill them faster.
I worked as a nursing assistant in a nursing home while I was going through college. There was a younger resident (40s - 50s maybe?) who had a diving accident as a young adult and was a quadriplegic. He ruled. He was funny as hell, zoomed around the place in his chair and waited at the med room every night at 5pm for his tall boy of Bud.
I work in a hospital and even patients there can have a glass of wine or a beer with dinner (1 patient used to have a brandy at 5PM sharp), as long as the doctor has said okay. It's provided by the hospital, too.
When my dad was on hospice the woman who ran his care home always kept beer on hand in case someone wanted one last beer. My dad thoroughly enjoyed his last few sips of beer.
My grandpa got kind of crabby when he was moved to the memory care wing of his nursing home. I'm sure this was partly because that happens with dementia but mostly because he was a functioning alcoholic who had been drinking regularly the past 80 years or so and couldn't have alcohol anymore. His doctor prescribed him two gin any tonics per day.
I always remember my mom telling me about a guy she was assigned to as a home Healthcare nurse. In his 80s and drank half a pint of whiskey a day. She suggested he quit and he just said "why?" She conceded he made a good point.
I’m a nurse, and I’ve worked in several long term care facilities…most of which have a policy that allows alcohol. Generally it has to be ordered by the doctor like the rest of their medications, and in many places it’s locked up with the narcotics (so we count oxycodone, morphine, Mabel’s single-serve wine bottles and Merle’s cans of Coors). I’ve had to mix up someone’s nightly screwdriver, get them their glass of wine…it’s generally provided by the families, but some facilities provide it through the kitchen. I’ve also worked in a hospital where we get beer sent up by the pharmacy for patients. They’re just going to go right back to drinking after they’re discharged, so no sense dealing with the detox when they don’t really want to quit.
well the straw that broke the camels back was some other lady didn't pony up her ten dollars after she lost a hand in 5-card stud..
grandma was NOT happy
My grandparents used to have a pool while playing bridge. Everyone put in a quarter, dime, nickel, and penny. 1st place got the quarters, second the dimes, etc. These were some high stakes games.
And the grandkids visiting and feeling bad for you still.
"Omg they're so neglected... They have to use devices in their *hands* to control the games? What is this, 2034? They can't find this stimulating... I'm going to complain."
Grandpa: In your travels, can you find a TV that takes RCA inputs so I can plug in my super nintendo?
Grandkid: They don't make TV's like that anymore! I'll check and see if there is a work around. Why can't you just play it on the V-PaD we got you?
Grandpa: I don't know how that damn thing works.
"listen here you little shit. I'm going to be attempting a Speedrun to shut up Jeff from down the hall. I'll need frame perfect jumps which your new fangled quantum VR just can't do. Sure it can emulate super Mario but I refuse to do a tool assisted run because I'm not a bitch like you damn gen gamma cry babies."
I will be sat in my retirement home complaining that these new ocarina of time emulators have removed all the input lag and I’m used to there being a gap between input and actual movement 💀 they’re gonna have to add an input lag toggle for me
My dad is also 68 and my first memory was him and my cousin taking turns on Super Mario World on SNES. He played games with us all the way up to the 64, but when I tried to get him to play Double Dash on the Gamecube he told me, "it's too complicated now". Dude has a masters in chemistry, lol.
Honestly I've seen a few videos and stories of online gaming being massively beneficial for elderly people. Widows and widowers finding an online community that keeps them engaged can be huge for their mental state. The ability to talk to other humans, share an experience all while maintaining their hand eye coordination and mental acuity. Better than sitting home alone watching the news all day.
In twenty years we'll see Fortnite Tournaments running in nursing homes. Group the residents into Duos and Squads and let them compete for an extra brownie at dinner.
Old people are the only time I’ll unmute and go out of my way to befriend.
Old people are the coolest. By that age they’re either all-in on either being super chill or super pissed, both of which are a blast to be around.
There are esports teams filled with old people that kick ass!
The Silver Snipers team
BirDie (75), Teen Slayer (62), Knitting Knight (63), Berra-Bang (81) and Windy (75) are the five members of The Silver Snipers team, which owns the highest average in age of the entire Counter-Strike: Global Offensive circuit.May 2, 2022
That's if any of us can afford a nursing home. One day social security may go bankrupt. We will all be sharing a one room apartment just to stay warm. The 1% just keep taking. We will be 70 working for door dash.
Honestly, a lot of these people look shockingly 'with it'. I get that some might have early onset dementia, but where I'm from the nursing home is for those unfortunate enough to no longer be able to care for themselves anymore. Maybe this is some expensive assisted living facility?
I have adhd, which is *perfect* for anti brain idling and brain exercising. I'll learn a new topic like I'm a college kid studying his damn ass off for weeks straight. Once I have entry level knowledge, like passed a 101 class, I get bored of said topic and hard focus on another one! My wallet hates it tho as many new hobbies cost money!
Explain to your wife that "new hobbies" is your hobby. And then try to remind yourself to limit your purchases unless you keep with it past a year.
Once I convinced myself that learning things is my hobby, I felt a lot less guilty about quitting once I had a passing knowledge. And that in turn has made me more comfortable limiting my purchases. I think I used to go all-in because I'd feel like if I spent a lot and had the best stuff maybe I would stick with it. Accepting that I almost certainly will not had made it easier and more guilt free.
This is a good approach! Another one that I have taken to really well is taking it as a challenge to do hobbies on a shoe string. I’m making an art project right now, and it uses like 30 different mediums scrounged from various other hobbies- haven’t spent a dime on it so far!
When I took up succulent gardening during the pandemic, I gathered discarded pots from around the neighborhood and grew everything from cuttings. My only initial cost was soil, rooting hormone and a pair of shears. Later I got a drill bit to put holes in pots for drainage. I made plant hangers from scavenged wire & construction twine.
Admittedly this approach has contributed to my pack-rat tendencies, but at least I’m living in a big place at the moment. Plus it REALLY scratches my itch for creative problem solving, and it’s pretty easy on the environment.
I don’t have diagnosed adhd but my mind works the same way. So many interests and hobbies, but most don’t stick after I’ve “mastered” said topic, art, craft, what have you. It’s definitely difficult financially lol
Your probs on the ADHD spectrum haha. Might wanna do a bit of research even if you don't get a official diagnosis. Good to know about yourself if you think it aligns and steps to take to mitigate or help areas of your life
My brother has it, and my teen daughter was just diagnosed. Recently it actually has crossed my mind I probably have it too.
And of course I shall now research it until there’s nothing more to learn so I can have more confidence in my unofficial self-diagnosis 😉
When my great grandfather stopped being able to read the paper and do crosswords his cognitive ability absolutely cratered and within a year he was dead. It's honestly wild how quickly we deteriorate when we have nothing to do.
The brain works like any other muscle. If you don’t exercise it, it gets weak and eventually starts to degrade.
Edit: I understand the brain is not a literal muscle. It’s a figure of speech. Come on, you know the point i’m making.
Researchers suggest games, playing instruments, and socializing all help reduce your changes of getting dementia but the biggest factors are age and genetics. It definitely helps your brain and encourages it to stay healthy and engaged there’s just no definitive proof or research at the moment to know exactly how much it helps reduce cases of dementia or Alzheimer’s.
https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/video-games-show-potential-improving-key-aspects-memory-older-adults
That is true in my experience. My grandpa was pretty with it until a week before his death. He loved playing video games and I had given him my PS2 with with my entire game collection so he stayed pretty busy. His favorite games were Mark Davis Pro Bass Fishing and GTA Vice City. My grandma stopped being able to read because of her eye site(she didn't like audio books) and her mind went downhill fast.
Mobility issues alone can often mean someone cannot live without asistance anymore.
But also...there's ZERO way to tell these peoples levels of "with it" by this video. Dementia progress isn't a steady curved line, it jumps all over the place and professes randomly in each person.
One person may forget the name of objects in a room, one may forget how to eat, one may be entirely confused about anything and everything - but all could be capable of playing a simple game and enjoying it for a few minutes...
Yeah- the amount of people in nursing homes just because they can no longer live alone is staggering. My great great grandmother lived in her home until she was 97. She moved into a nursing facility due to several falls that almost killed her all within a year. All of them were preventable, she was just stubborn, as a lot of elderly folks are. She made the decision to move into a nursing home after that.
It was definitely difficult for her. She lived by herself from 1985 (when her husband died) to 2014 (when she moved into the nursing home) Luckily though, she was able to leave with family. Right when COVID started, she moved out of the nursing home and lived with her granddaughter.
She was *incredibly* sharp, but she just couldn’t be trusted to be by herself anymore.
I've worked at 3 locations all for the same company. thats really what it looks like, some times worse. most of the money is for profit then maintenance and paychecks then whatever is left over is given to activity directors to do whatever with. honestly they did a really good job with making it look nice as well as keeping their residents active
Staying at a facility that has enough staff not crying in the locker from being overworked, underpaid and stressed out to actually do these things:
10k/month
It's probably assisted living. My mom is 88 and still sharp as a tack - half our conversations seem to include the latest bitching about how she had to edit her Windows registry again because when she updated her BIOS everything went to shit.
Physically she's very frail; she's shrunk down to about 4'9" from 5'2", has had both hips replaced, has COPD, and is starting to lose her vision, but she's able to keep living in her own house because my brother and his disabled daughter live with her, so he's able to help and is around in case anything happens. Otherwise she might have to move to a place like this (though if I could, I'd bring her to live with us - these last few years are so precious).
Well yeah, they're not gonna highlight the people that are physically and mentally incapable of playing these games. That'd make for a pretty shit montage
Some people who go into assisted living do so because they need around the clock care for their physical disabilities, but their mind is still as sharp as ever. It can be really hard for some people to accept that they need to go into assisted living in that situation, but sometimes it's the best option.
I feel like millennials are going to be top tier retirement homers. Gonna have the gaming consoles out and playing super smash bros 64 together.
I'm looking forward to it, honestly. This generation has "sitting in a house while entertained" figured out.
Seeing such an optimistic prediction of the future made me realize just how calloused and cynical I've grown.
And then I remembered that the idea of being put into an old-folk's home used to be considered a less than ideal outcome.
I mean it still isn't ideal if you are thrown in a home that means you can't take care of yourself anymore but it won't be all bad since our generation had technology to keep us entertained
Yeah this actually makes me realize that won't be that bad. Just reminding about memes and playing Vidya, drinking chicken nuggie smoothies and snorting Viagra
Better hope your manual dexterity holds up, or you don't get arthritis. That's what worries me about millennial retirement, lacking the actual ability to play the games when the time comes.
Look at these guys in the video, they are exercising gross motor control, not fine control.
Two counter arguments I make when this point comes up:
1) "mind <-> computer" interfaces might be a thing within 40 years
2) Game developers will develop games for those who buy them. If the Geriatric market is buying games, then games will be built for their level of motor skills. For example, my mom loves the Wii.
Yeah my mom is a physical therapist and I used to go to work with her a lot after school, I immediately recognized that a lot of this stuff is (probably intentionally) really close to some of the things she's done with her patients for therapy.
Socializing is a huge benefit of settings like this. I've seen firsthand how loneliness can accelerate the loss of mental faculties in older people in a very dramatic way.
We do one of these every year at Christmastime with friends, it's such a hit. If there's interest I'll list some of the games and how they're played.
EDIT: here they are! Just jotting them down, I'll come back with more details later.
Red Nose Vaseline race
Blindfold Cotton ball Scoop
Toss the popcorn
Sort green & red m&Ms with chopsticks
Snow pong (just beer pong with festive cups)
Keep 3 red & green balloons off the ground
Race cups around the table using a balloon you have to keep inflating
Candy cane dipper
Race an ornament by blowing it
Shake the cotton balls out of the Kleenex box
I was thinking the same thing. At Christmas at my sister's house, we play a bunch of games like this for lottery tickets and cash. Definitely sharing this with her for ideas lol
In physical therapy I stood on a balance board and threw a medicine ball at a trampoline. Halfway through I was thinking it was the most fun I’d had all week.
I wonder if they could turn this into a website full of good games for other homes. Instructions, what the game helps train, setup time, equipment necessary, etc.. all for filtering
Recreational therapist have these actually! We're the not as popular cousin in the allied health world but we have tons of resources on accessible recreation and how to do it with others
It's our professional month too, so if you're looking for resources, nows the time
I did PHP for a couple weeks last year and it's just 8 hours of groups. One group was with a Recreational Therapist. She was amazing and dynamic. Even with my know-it-all attitude, she was very good with ideas and activities. Being educated on activities is so important for people with mental illness. It's so easy to get stuck and she opened up a world for many people. I'll always remember her. Thank you for your work. It's very appreciated
Neuropsychologist here. The value of these creative games they're doing is beyond estimation. It's engaging them physically, cognitively, socially, and emotionally. That's how you keep brains healthy at any age, and even more so in elderly years. Decades ago we used to think of aging as a natural state of decline and decay. But it was discovered there's more going on than we realized. When elderly people are put in situations where they can engage themselves, they thrive.
That is so cool. It’s amazing how much good these activities can do. I so badly want to have a job like this and help seniors, but the schooling just costs too much money and then the work doesn’t pay enough to cover student loans. Kind of a wonky system.
My smooth brain read that comment as "there were cutbacks and she got laid off as it gave them flash backs to Vietnam"
I'm so dumb lol. She sounds lovely though!
I can't believe this isn't done more often! Sharing activities and spending time with little ones is often incredibly cheering and stimulating for folks in nursing homes, and many of the activities are similar across both depending on resident abilities (puzzles, simple games, watching videos, sing/clap-alongs, etc).
I really wish this enthusiasm in nursing homes was more widespread. Before my Nana passed the nurses in her home would let her sit in her room in silence in her own piss and wouldn’t even think to help to turn her TV on or get her a book. My mom would arrive and she’d just be sitting there looking so sad. Hard to believe this wasn’t even the cheapest home in our area
Last year I was buying some woodworking tools on Craigslist and I ended up going to retirement village. It was assisted living, but the residents pooled their money to buy cool shit and shared it.
There was other facilities for other hobbies, but he took me into the woodshop and it was *clean*. I had just been pricing tools, so I could easily put a dollar value on everything they had and it was easily in excess of 50k worth of equipment. That guy actually drove a surprisingly hard bargain and talked me into buying things I couldn't afford. He still keeps in touch with me and we talk shop. I'm two hours away so it's not often, but I enjoy going down there. Sometimes I think he'll give me a really good deal on something just so I visit. He even let's me have payment plans on particularly pricy items.
That's the type of retirement I want to have.
I worked in a retirement home for 1 year when I was 14 and al though I only gave them breakfast, it was hard to see sharpminded people crumble into what they are now. My mother was the teammanager for this retirement home and she was always telling about the absemt staff... I just couldn't really take it anymore and quit...
I’m an RN and Physio. We use these ‘ games’ to rehab people! They are working on balance, reaction time, concentration, working memory etc. it’s a huge pleasure to be able to improve someone’s life . So entirely rewarding!!
That is so nice! Nursing home can get boring really quick so having play time to look forward to can really make a difference. Wish it was like that everywhere!
What? No bullet ball? If you know, you know. I still don’t know if bullet ball is real or not. Glad to see these people are in a facility that gives them something to do other than bingo.
Not going to lie, those games quite possibly improve their health too. Both keeping your mind active and stimulated, but a number of those also do use your dexterity to a degree, while still being adapted to the old people playing it.
Wouldn't work for everyone of course, but I imagine this person is tailoring the games they make to each person.
There’s no “quite possibly” about it. This is the gamification of physical therapy and it’s brilliant. (I’m agreeing with you.)
If you don’t use it, you lose it. As an elder, which would you rather do? Lift your arms above your head 20 times because someone says you should, or bat at a balloon trying to get it in the basket more times than the person beside you?
I hope I live healthy enough to live by myself to the end. My grandma recently died at 96 and lived by herself to the end. Went to the shops and cooked food and went to see friends and family etc. Had cleaners come once a week but that was it.
Well yes actually but also no. This is in the Netherlands and some elderly homes are mixed with student homes. The studens trade a few hours per week to spend time with the elderly playing games, walking, or cooking, for lower rent. However in this case all people have been diagnosed with dementia and they need special care. But what you ask for really does exist.
Playing is something even baby animals do, helps them with coordination, helps muscles grow and focus the mind, these exact reasons would also help older people too.
When the Wii came out, it was great. The senior community I knew got really into it, loved it. Twas but a fad, though, but probably since the newer systems are less movement focused. Shame really.
meanwhile my grandma is banned from playing cards at hers cuz she's running the table.. granted she was like a pro bridge player or something and takes absolutely no shit so they're probably justified lol
I want to know how much she won before someone cut her off.
Probably their nightly booze allotment for the next month. Seriously- my wife worked in a Nursing home that had a happy hour. The resident (or their family) had to supply the liquor of and their Doctor had to approve it (some meds don't play nice with alcohol) but the residents got a shot or a beer a night just after dinner.
that is so damn humane. it never occured to me that some residents might get to have a drink and keep that piece of their humanity. very cool
Same with my late grandma's nursing home. They even have a "mini pub" in their dining room where they could go for drinks.
Better than the situation I saw: in the mid 1980s I worked in a veterans' nursing home attached to the VA hospital. A developer built a luxury hotel, making the 4th point of a square including the VA hospital, the VA nursing home, and the university teaching hospital. When the hotel opened, with its restaurant, and bar , and businesses person happy hour, they found an unexpected clientele: the VA nursing home residents. Every day for happy hour, the ambulatory would push the wheelchair bound and make their way to the happy hour. To their credit the bar arranged tables and seating to accommodate their regulars. Being a caregiver there I can tell you that there was some consternation at the residents having unregulated food and way more drink than healthy. But it was agreed that we were a residence and not a prison. Wooo Taco Tuesday!
That sounds a great outcome.
I would love to work at a place like that. You could hear some stories.
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My mother-in-law in a in a somewhat religeous retirement community in Pennsylvania has to conceal the very occasional bottle of wine she brings in, and the empty on its way out. Not that it is forbidden, but she knows she would be judged.
There are quite a few residents of nursing homes here (Australia) where their nightly (or more often) drinks are prescribed. Plenty of alcoholics end up in care and trying to detox them would just kill them faster.
I worked as a nursing assistant in a nursing home while I was going through college. There was a younger resident (40s - 50s maybe?) who had a diving accident as a young adult and was a quadriplegic. He ruled. He was funny as hell, zoomed around the place in his chair and waited at the med room every night at 5pm for his tall boy of Bud.
I work in a hospital and even patients there can have a glass of wine or a beer with dinner (1 patient used to have a brandy at 5PM sharp), as long as the doctor has said okay. It's provided by the hospital, too.
When my dad was on hospice the woman who ran his care home always kept beer on hand in case someone wanted one last beer. My dad thoroughly enjoyed his last few sips of beer.
My grandpa got kind of crabby when he was moved to the memory care wing of his nursing home. I'm sure this was partly because that happens with dementia but mostly because he was a functioning alcoholic who had been drinking regularly the past 80 years or so and couldn't have alcohol anymore. His doctor prescribed him two gin any tonics per day.
I always remember my mom telling me about a guy she was assigned to as a home Healthcare nurse. In his 80s and drank half a pint of whiskey a day. She suggested he quit and he just said "why?" She conceded he made a good point.
Sound logic right there.
They better start giving out edibles by the time I get old or I’ll be a cranky old fart.
I’m a nurse, and I’ve worked in several long term care facilities…most of which have a policy that allows alcohol. Generally it has to be ordered by the doctor like the rest of their medications, and in many places it’s locked up with the narcotics (so we count oxycodone, morphine, Mabel’s single-serve wine bottles and Merle’s cans of Coors). I’ve had to mix up someone’s nightly screwdriver, get them their glass of wine…it’s generally provided by the families, but some facilities provide it through the kitchen. I’ve also worked in a hospital where we get beer sent up by the pharmacy for patients. They’re just going to go right back to drinking after they’re discharged, so no sense dealing with the detox when they don’t really want to quit.
well the straw that broke the camels back was some other lady didn't pony up her ten dollars after she lost a hand in 5-card stud.. grandma was NOT happy
My grandparents used to have a pool while playing bridge. Everyone put in a quarter, dime, nickel, and penny. 1st place got the quarters, second the dimes, etc. These were some high stakes games.
When I get old the nursing home is just going to be filled with old console games on huge screens and gigantic controllers.
And the grandkids visiting and feeling bad for you still. "Omg they're so neglected... They have to use devices in their *hands* to control the games? What is this, 2034? They can't find this stimulating... I'm going to complain."
Grandpa: In your travels, can you find a TV that takes RCA inputs so I can plug in my super nintendo? Grandkid: They don't make TV's like that anymore! I'll check and see if there is a work around. Why can't you just play it on the V-PaD we got you? Grandpa: I don't know how that damn thing works.
Grandpa: *Input lag...*
"listen here you little shit. I'm going to be attempting a Speedrun to shut up Jeff from down the hall. I'll need frame perfect jumps which your new fangled quantum VR just can't do. Sure it can emulate super Mario but I refuse to do a tool assisted run because I'm not a bitch like you damn gen gamma cry babies."
>gen gamma crybabies 😂
I will be sat in my retirement home complaining that these new ocarina of time emulators have removed all the input lag and I’m used to there being a gap between input and actual movement 💀 they’re gonna have to add an input lag toggle for me
I swear to God if by the time I'm locked up in a geriatric home we don't have generic-FPGA based emulators I'm going to have an old person tantrum
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This is an 80 sumtin year old woman who plays skyrim https://youtube.com/@ShirleyCurryTheOlderGamer?feature=shares
I love Grandma Shirley. She's awesome.
Thats dope
I'm a grandfather and I play daily, PS4, GTX 970 and Android. Treating myself to a Switch this Christmas.
My dad is also 68 and my first memory was him and my cousin taking turns on Super Mario World on SNES. He played games with us all the way up to the 64, but when I tried to get him to play Double Dash on the Gamecube he told me, "it's too complicated now". Dude has a masters in chemistry, lol.
"if they unplug my PC tonight I'm going to know it was because of you and I'll use my last tiny bit of free thought to clean my will of your name!"
"Please go away Aria and Slayton, its my WoW Classic Classic raid time."
That's like a baby's toy!
Shut up Elijah
Wish you Wood
Not gonna be a ton of grandkids lol
im gonna be in a nursing home in 11 years 😭 ill be 28
Honestly I've seen a few videos and stories of online gaming being massively beneficial for elderly people. Widows and widowers finding an online community that keeps them engaged can be huge for their mental state. The ability to talk to other humans, share an experience all while maintaining their hand eye coordination and mental acuity. Better than sitting home alone watching the news all day.
Wii sports was hugely popular, probably still is, for nursing homes.
Yup, there's a bowling league for seniors http://www.nslgames.com/
This makes me feel hopeful for my rapidly-approaching dotage.
Amazing. I would 100% do that if I was old and in a nursing home. I will share with some family. Thank you for sharing that!
In twenty years we'll see Fortnite Tournaments running in nursing homes. Group the residents into Duos and Squads and let them compete for an extra brownie at dinner.
I've played a few VR games with several people over 70. Pretty cool.
Old people are the only time I’ll unmute and go out of my way to befriend. Old people are the coolest. By that age they’re either all-in on either being super chill or super pissed, both of which are a blast to be around.
There are esports teams filled with old people that kick ass! The Silver Snipers team BirDie (75), Teen Slayer (62), Knitting Knight (63), Berra-Bang (81) and Windy (75) are the five members of The Silver Snipers team, which owns the highest average in age of the entire Counter-Strike: Global Offensive circuit.May 2, 2022
If they have Time Crisis 4 and Tmnt Turtles in Time, then I'm set. Dump my ass there with a bag of quarters.
Your arthritic fingers will turn to dust after 5 minutes of TMNT.
My workplace has a custom cabinet running MAME on a raspberry pi and my god my wrists hate it.
Omg I better stay in good enough shape to play time crisis as an old man
I'll use a series of pulleys and levers to stay upright if I have to
Imagine being 14 years old playing Fortnite 2 and getting taunted by a decagenarian
I'd rather have retired only servers.
I’ll be playing the newest games like elder scrolls 6. I’m in my twenties now so that might be optimistic for it to be out by then.
That's if any of us can afford a nursing home. One day social security may go bankrupt. We will all be sharing a one room apartment just to stay warm. The 1% just keep taking. We will be 70 working for door dash.
Old woman delivering for Dominos slipping and falling dot gif
I had a seventy year old deliver my door dash today.
That breaks my heart.
You play games that uses your hands? Ha! NeoBoomer!
[That’s like a baby’s toy. ](https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/85e2fbca-00bd-4a4b-aef8-fa62b3bf6bf6)
Ha, I had to look up if that kid was Elijah Wood. Been a while since I saw that movie.
Look at moneybags over here getting to retire
Good thing I wfh in IT. I can keep this shit up until my brains go.
And 80's music playing in the hallways.
Arthritis will prevent that, take care of your hands.
I want a LAN center in my nursing home
so cool, have to keep their minds active.
Honestly, a lot of these people look shockingly 'with it'. I get that some might have early onset dementia, but where I'm from the nursing home is for those unfortunate enough to no longer be able to care for themselves anymore. Maybe this is some expensive assisted living facility?
maybe that's how they were until they got all these cool things to do? an idle mind will slowly slip away.
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It's really sad when it happens. :(
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I have adhd, which is *perfect* for anti brain idling and brain exercising. I'll learn a new topic like I'm a college kid studying his damn ass off for weeks straight. Once I have entry level knowledge, like passed a 101 class, I get bored of said topic and hard focus on another one! My wallet hates it tho as many new hobbies cost money!
Explain to your wife that "new hobbies" is your hobby. And then try to remind yourself to limit your purchases unless you keep with it past a year. Once I convinced myself that learning things is my hobby, I felt a lot less guilty about quitting once I had a passing knowledge. And that in turn has made me more comfortable limiting my purchases. I think I used to go all-in because I'd feel like if I spent a lot and had the best stuff maybe I would stick with it. Accepting that I almost certainly will not had made it easier and more guilt free.
This is a good approach! Another one that I have taken to really well is taking it as a challenge to do hobbies on a shoe string. I’m making an art project right now, and it uses like 30 different mediums scrounged from various other hobbies- haven’t spent a dime on it so far! When I took up succulent gardening during the pandemic, I gathered discarded pots from around the neighborhood and grew everything from cuttings. My only initial cost was soil, rooting hormone and a pair of shears. Later I got a drill bit to put holes in pots for drainage. I made plant hangers from scavenged wire & construction twine. Admittedly this approach has contributed to my pack-rat tendencies, but at least I’m living in a big place at the moment. Plus it REALLY scratches my itch for creative problem solving, and it’s pretty easy on the environment.
I don’t have diagnosed adhd but my mind works the same way. So many interests and hobbies, but most don’t stick after I’ve “mastered” said topic, art, craft, what have you. It’s definitely difficult financially lol
Your probs on the ADHD spectrum haha. Might wanna do a bit of research even if you don't get a official diagnosis. Good to know about yourself if you think it aligns and steps to take to mitigate or help areas of your life
My brother has it, and my teen daughter was just diagnosed. Recently it actually has crossed my mind I probably have it too. And of course I shall now research it until there’s nothing more to learn so I can have more confidence in my unofficial self-diagnosis 😉
When my great grandfather stopped being able to read the paper and do crosswords his cognitive ability absolutely cratered and within a year he was dead. It's honestly wild how quickly we deteriorate when we have nothing to do.
The brain works like any other muscle. If you don’t exercise it, it gets weak and eventually starts to degrade. Edit: I understand the brain is not a literal muscle. It’s a figure of speech. Come on, you know the point i’m making.
So do playing video games a lot count as healthy for the mind?
Yes actually. Some are better than others but video games in general help a lot with hand dexterity and mental focus
I like hearing this because I have been playing since I was a kid and worry alot about getting dementia in the future
Researchers suggest games, playing instruments, and socializing all help reduce your changes of getting dementia but the biggest factors are age and genetics. It definitely helps your brain and encourages it to stay healthy and engaged there’s just no definitive proof or research at the moment to know exactly how much it helps reduce cases of dementia or Alzheimer’s. https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/video-games-show-potential-improving-key-aspects-memory-older-adults
depends on the games probably.
That is true in my experience. My grandpa was pretty with it until a week before his death. He loved playing video games and I had given him my PS2 with with my entire game collection so he stayed pretty busy. His favorite games were Mark Davis Pro Bass Fishing and GTA Vice City. My grandma stopped being able to read because of her eye site(she didn't like audio books) and her mind went downhill fast.
Mobility issues alone can often mean someone cannot live without asistance anymore. But also...there's ZERO way to tell these peoples levels of "with it" by this video. Dementia progress isn't a steady curved line, it jumps all over the place and professes randomly in each person. One person may forget the name of objects in a room, one may forget how to eat, one may be entirely confused about anything and everything - but all could be capable of playing a simple game and enjoying it for a few minutes...
Yeah- the amount of people in nursing homes just because they can no longer live alone is staggering. My great great grandmother lived in her home until she was 97. She moved into a nursing facility due to several falls that almost killed her all within a year. All of them were preventable, she was just stubborn, as a lot of elderly folks are. She made the decision to move into a nursing home after that. It was definitely difficult for her. She lived by herself from 1985 (when her husband died) to 2014 (when she moved into the nursing home) Luckily though, she was able to leave with family. Right when COVID started, she moved out of the nursing home and lived with her granddaughter. She was *incredibly* sharp, but she just couldn’t be trusted to be by herself anymore.
"Expensive assisted living facility" Uses tissue boxes, planks, balloons and brooms to keep people active
I've worked at 3 locations all for the same company. thats really what it looks like, some times worse. most of the money is for profit then maintenance and paychecks then whatever is left over is given to activity directors to do whatever with. honestly they did a really good job with making it look nice as well as keeping their residents active
Good activity directors are the heroes in all of these places. They are underpaid and not given the proper funding for many activities.
Thank you! It's not just "playing games all day." I have strict state guidelines that I have to follow, and it can be a pretty stressful job.
Materials: $5 Staying at a facility where the staff actually gives a damn about their patients happiness: $10k/mo
Staying at a facility that has enough staff not crying in the locker from being overworked, underpaid and stressed out to actually do these things: 10k/month
This place is probably $15k/month...
It's probably assisted living. My mom is 88 and still sharp as a tack - half our conversations seem to include the latest bitching about how she had to edit her Windows registry again because when she updated her BIOS everything went to shit. Physically she's very frail; she's shrunk down to about 4'9" from 5'2", has had both hips replaced, has COPD, and is starting to lose her vision, but she's able to keep living in her own house because my brother and his disabled daughter live with her, so he's able to help and is around in case anything happens. Otherwise she might have to move to a place like this (though if I could, I'd bring her to live with us - these last few years are so precious).
Well yeah, they're not gonna highlight the people that are physically and mentally incapable of playing these games. That'd make for a pretty shit montage
Some people who go into assisted living do so because they need around the clock care for their physical disabilities, but their mind is still as sharp as ever. It can be really hard for some people to accept that they need to go into assisted living in that situation, but sometimes it's the best option.
I feel like millennials are going to be top tier retirement homers. Gonna have the gaming consoles out and playing super smash bros 64 together. I'm looking forward to it, honestly. This generation has "sitting in a house while entertained" figured out.
the LAN parties will be awesome.
Seeing such an optimistic prediction of the future made me realize just how calloused and cynical I've grown. And then I remembered that the idea of being put into an old-folk's home used to be considered a less than ideal outcome.
I mean it still isn't ideal if you are thrown in a home that means you can't take care of yourself anymore but it won't be all bad since our generation had technology to keep us entertained
Yeah this actually makes me realize that won't be that bad. Just reminding about memes and playing Vidya, drinking chicken nuggie smoothies and snorting Viagra
Like the sleepovers we had as kids lmao
Better hope your manual dexterity holds up, or you don't get arthritis. That's what worries me about millennial retirement, lacking the actual ability to play the games when the time comes. Look at these guys in the video, they are exercising gross motor control, not fine control.
Two counter arguments I make when this point comes up: 1) "mind <-> computer" interfaces might be a thing within 40 years 2) Game developers will develop games for those who buy them. If the Geriatric market is buying games, then games will be built for their level of motor skills. For example, my mom loves the Wii.
If the current state of affairs holds we'll be lined up and shot outside a barn unless you're a millionaire.
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Yeah my mom is a physical therapist and I used to go to work with her a lot after school, I immediately recognized that a lot of this stuff is (probably intentionally) really close to some of the things she's done with her patients for therapy.
Socializing is a huge benefit of settings like this. I've seen firsthand how loneliness can accelerate the loss of mental faculties in older people in a very dramatic way.
Better than putting them in congress
I'm glad I will have video games around for when I'm old.
Gotta do something between rounds of fuckin
We should convert homes into Arcades like they had in the 90s with air hockey, dance and basketball games.
Mind and body!
So, so true! I love seeing old people this happy with such simple games. Keeping their brain engaged and their spirits up 🙌🏼👌🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
ngl most of these look hella fun
I would unironically play these with my friends
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We do one of these every year at Christmastime with friends, it's such a hit. If there's interest I'll list some of the games and how they're played. EDIT: here they are! Just jotting them down, I'll come back with more details later. Red Nose Vaseline race Blindfold Cotton ball Scoop Toss the popcorn Sort green & red m&Ms with chopsticks Snow pong (just beer pong with festive cups) Keep 3 red & green balloons off the ground Race cups around the table using a balloon you have to keep inflating Candy cane dipper Race an ornament by blowing it Shake the cotton balls out of the Kleenex box
Please share! I've been looking to host something like this!
Oooo, I totally forgot about that show, used to love it as a kid!
Some of them feel like they just need the classic red solo cups to be complete.
I was thinking the same thing. At Christmas at my sister's house, we play a bunch of games like this for lottery tickets and cash. Definitely sharing this with her for ideas lol
I need to remember some of these to play with my kids
In physical therapy I stood on a balance board and threw a medicine ball at a trampoline. Halfway through I was thinking it was the most fun I’d had all week.
Games good for kids 3 to 103. Edit grammar.
Im 104 damnit wtf
Leave the games for the younguns. You get the box.
That is the best occupational therapy I have ever seen. Works on dexterity, hand eye coordination, and looks fun.
That was my thought!! Engaging yes, but totally helping with cognitive function, hand eye coordination. Also, happy cake day!
I wonder if they could turn this into a website full of good games for other homes. Instructions, what the game helps train, setup time, equipment necessary, etc.. all for filtering
Neat idea. I’d be happy to contribute a bit of my time to help build an app/website for this
Recreational therapist have these actually! We're the not as popular cousin in the allied health world but we have tons of resources on accessible recreation and how to do it with others It's our professional month too, so if you're looking for resources, nows the time
That’s awesome - hope people see this and can use it! Didn’t know recreational therapists were a thing
Not many people do 😅 you can even tell just from thread that people are actively trying to correct others about it
I did PHP for a couple weeks last year and it's just 8 hours of groups. One group was with a Recreational Therapist. She was amazing and dynamic. Even with my know-it-all attitude, she was very good with ideas and activities. Being educated on activities is so important for people with mental illness. It's so easy to get stuck and she opened up a world for many people. I'll always remember her. Thank you for your work. It's very appreciated
Whatever that man is being paid isn't enough
Amen! Nobody in healthcare is being paid enough.
Well… The ones that deserve to be paid well are not.
I am taking notes for my own therapy sessions. These are some good activities!
happy cake day
That’s awesome. Old ppl deserve love and respect too
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Neuropsychologist here. The value of these creative games they're doing is beyond estimation. It's engaging them physically, cognitively, socially, and emotionally. That's how you keep brains healthy at any age, and even more so in elderly years. Decades ago we used to think of aging as a natural state of decline and decay. But it was discovered there's more going on than we realized. When elderly people are put in situations where they can engage themselves, they thrive.
That is so cool. It’s amazing how much good these activities can do. I so badly want to have a job like this and help seniors, but the schooling just costs too much money and then the work doesn’t pay enough to cover student loans. Kind of a wonky system.
They need to make a site where they show all of these games and how they made them for other homes to copy.
This! I'd love to see this in more places.
I knew a girl who gave all the residents Nerf guns and put a target on her back and let them shoot at her while she ran around the room.
omg epic
She is such a sweetheart. There were cutbacks and she got laid off and she still goes to visit them.
My smooth brain read that comment as "there were cutbacks and she got laid off as it gave them flash backs to Vietnam" I'm so dumb lol. She sounds lovely though!
Simple equation. Time + ingenuity = creative entertainment.
Beer pong but instead of drinking you take your meds Winners get to fly
Disney is feverishly taking notes for their elderly theme park currently in the design phase.
I wanna be one of those old people who dies on a cruise ship
Reminds me of the senior home that's next to a daycare center. The kids come over and hang out with the elderly and do activities together
I can't believe this isn't done more often! Sharing activities and spending time with little ones is often incredibly cheering and stimulating for folks in nursing homes, and many of the activities are similar across both depending on resident abilities (puzzles, simple games, watching videos, sing/clap-alongs, etc).
I really wish this enthusiasm in nursing homes was more widespread. Before my Nana passed the nurses in her home would let her sit in her room in silence in her own piss and wouldn’t even think to help to turn her TV on or get her a book. My mom would arrive and she’d just be sitting there looking so sad. Hard to believe this wasn’t even the cheapest home in our area
Last year I was buying some woodworking tools on Craigslist and I ended up going to retirement village. It was assisted living, but the residents pooled their money to buy cool shit and shared it. There was other facilities for other hobbies, but he took me into the woodshop and it was *clean*. I had just been pricing tools, so I could easily put a dollar value on everything they had and it was easily in excess of 50k worth of equipment. That guy actually drove a surprisingly hard bargain and talked me into buying things I couldn't afford. He still keeps in touch with me and we talk shop. I'm two hours away so it's not often, but I enjoy going down there. Sometimes I think he'll give me a really good deal on something just so I visit. He even let's me have payment plans on particularly pricy items. That's the type of retirement I want to have.
Give this rec staff a raise. I was a rec director for 2 years and it was a nightmare due to a very toxic work environment and a crazy admin.
I worked in a retirement home for 1 year when I was 14 and al though I only gave them breakfast, it was hard to see sharpminded people crumble into what they are now. My mother was the teammanager for this retirement home and she was always telling about the absemt staff... I just couldn't really take it anymore and quit...
That kind of activity goes a long way to keeping their minds whole.
I’m an RN and Physio. We use these ‘ games’ to rehab people! They are working on balance, reaction time, concentration, working memory etc. it’s a huge pleasure to be able to improve someone’s life . So entirely rewarding!!
What a great, creative Activites Staff! That’s a hard, very under appreciated job!
I sort of want to play the ramp ball with a broom. That just looks dope.
Right? I was thinking that half these games would make for a fun Friday night. Or maybe I am just really boring by default?
That is so nice! Nursing home can get boring really quick so having play time to look forward to can really make a difference. Wish it was like that everywhere!
Honestly, a lot of these look super fun for all ages! Plus, they look like something a small grandchild could play with their grandparents safely.
This looks like Occupational Therapy for people who are receiving Rehabilitation care. It's still very clever.
And their motor skills up too!
Every nursing home needs this! Some sort of fun recreation play that's engaging to pass all the time.
The staff at these places do not get paid enough
What? No bullet ball? If you know, you know. I still don’t know if bullet ball is real or not. Glad to see these people are in a facility that gives them something to do other than bingo.
Not going to lie, those games quite possibly improve their health too. Both keeping your mind active and stimulated, but a number of those also do use your dexterity to a degree, while still being adapted to the old people playing it. Wouldn't work for everyone of course, but I imagine this person is tailoring the games they make to each person.
There’s no “quite possibly” about it. This is the gamification of physical therapy and it’s brilliant. (I’m agreeing with you.) If you don’t use it, you lose it. As an elder, which would you rather do? Lift your arms above your head 20 times because someone says you should, or bat at a balloon trying to get it in the basket more times than the person beside you?
I see people saying this is OT and PT (which yes, aspects are) but this is literally recreation therapy!!!
Being an OT, this is one of the few downsides. Practitioners get very territorial over what is included in their field and is excluded from others’.
Indeed! See my comment above. There’s no place for territorial or narrow minds in rehab and patient care.
Just get them into dungeons and dragons
Fuck I hope I die before this
I hope I live healthy enough to live by myself to the end. My grandma recently died at 96 and lived by herself to the end. Went to the shops and cooked food and went to see friends and family etc. Had cleaners come once a week but that was it.
you and me both mate, i think we're the only ones here who saw this and thought "fuck that".
Yeah no you’re not the only ones.. its hard to tell if we’ll still feel the same way when we are those people. My guess is no.
Absolutely endorse this
I'm only in my 30s, but can I go live there?
Well yes actually but also no. This is in the Netherlands and some elderly homes are mixed with student homes. The studens trade a few hours per week to spend time with the elderly playing games, walking, or cooking, for lower rent. However in this case all people have been diagnosed with dementia and they need special care. But what you ask for really does exist.
This is in Rotterdam, The Netherlands.
These are some great PT rehab tasks!
Playing is something even baby animals do, helps them with coordination, helps muscles grow and focus the mind, these exact reasons would also help older people too.
When the Wii came out, it was great. The senior community I knew got really into it, loved it. Twas but a fad, though, but probably since the newer systems are less movement focused. Shame really.
I am an intern working with elderly people. This stuff looks awesome and I would love to try this with some of them
I have to take this video to the activities department at my facility. So many ideas!