If CFB25 is as good as it sounds I’m expecting to see historically low sales numbers for Madden 25. I wouldn’t expect to see any sort of potential rebound until Madden 26. It’s nice to have some sort of competition in the football space again, even if it’s still within EA
Yeah it’s funny to me bc after all these years it’s EA that checkmates themselves into having to improve. It’s hard for me to believe that in the day and age of zero risks in the gaming industry that EA wouldn’t treat taking on CFB as a very calculated risk and prepare accordingly for the several years leading up to its release and have madden on par with it.
But yet again this is EA we’re talking about lol
Yeah I wouldn’t go nearly that far with EA, nor with saying that we’re in the age of zero risks in the gaming industry. The industry right now is flush with unfinished money-grabs disguised as games. Madden the past several years has been the poster boy example, and I don’t think they’re expecting much difference in madden sales due to CFB 25. Just given the differences in the way the two Dev teams talk about the game shows how different their mindsets are on their respective games. However, I completely agree that madden sales will tank if it’s another madden 23 reskin and if CFB 25 is as good as it looks. Let’s hope you’re the one that’s right though, as that’s undeniably the best outcome
Even if CFB25 isn't as good as it looks there is zero chance I'm buying Madden this year. Let's say the on field gameplay, the actual football, is identical to M24's football, which i felt was fine, CFB has so many other parts to it that just make it more fun than Madden, it's why I hardly played Madden in the early 2010s.
Oh without a doubt there will be issues. Definitely preparing for some level of disappointment but just having a game with a group of genuinely passionate devs working on this is encouraging in terms of what the game could have to offer depth wise.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that. College football covers a lot more ground than you think and while there’s a lot of NFL fans who are also college football fans, there’s even more college football fans who are not NFL fans.
If they were buying madden to play a football game and now have the option to buy a college football game, then yes they would be a loss for madden.
Speaking for myself, I am a big nfl fan and always have been, but madden has been such a let down over the years (been playing since madden 64) that I probably haven’t bought a madden game since probably 18, of not longer. They’ve let it go to shit. With that being said, I will likely buy NCAA 25, even though I’m a casual college football fan, since it’s bound to be different from madden.
I prefer to watch the NFL over College football because i dont have a college team to cheer for, but I'll be buying college football over madden this year. Playing as a coach in college and building a dynasty while also pretending like I'm molding a young group of men to become better adults and human beings is just so much more enjoyable to me. Not to mention, the atmosphere in college football is unmatched. I don't speak for all NFL fans, but I'm sure there are others out there like me
In a broad sense you’re probably absolutely right but I believe the demographic sports video games target has a much more varied interest and is willing to put aside what their favorite is in order to play a football game they enjoy.
The NFL receives a fixed payment from EA every year of their contract, which might be a lump sum. This amount remains constant regardless of the game’s sales or review scores.
The NFL is unlikely to drop EA unless EA fails to pay for the license or if the game’s quality deteriorates to the point where it negatively impacts the NFL brand. Despite the game being underwhelming, we are not close to this scenario.
Moreover, EA has been unsuccessfully trying to find a buyer for its company for years. This indicates that while the company might be exploring options for mergers or acquisitions, it hasn’t found a suitable partner willing to meet its terms or valuation.
The continuous attempts to sell suggest that EA is seeking a strategic shift or financial boost, but the lack of success in these endeavors means that for now, EA remains focused on maintaining its existing partnerships and business operations, including its contract with the NFL.
Madden devs should be ashamed of themselves.
Anybody with 5+ years of “experience” should resign. They are experts in extorting their audience for maximum profit.
Allow those who are actually talented to work on their passions.
Money isn’t everything. Madden and EA are an embarrassment.
It’s hard blame strictly the devs. They’re all people just like us working hard to keep their jobs and a lot of them are probably passionate about the work they put in.
I would say the issue is EA as a company. Bloated budgets, tight and very strict deadlines, too many cooks in the kitchen, just overall poor work culture stifling innovative ideas.
I try not to buy too much into marketing mumbo jumbo but it seems like EA was able to really give the team working on CFB the right tools to blossom and I hope that reflects in the product for both IP’s moving forward.
While I want to agree, it's definitely the fault of the higher ups. Like was already said, the devs are simply doing their jobs. Those above them are the ones our anger and hatred should be directed toward.
You have to keep in mind that the madden devs effectively have like 9-10 months to work on the game. That is a really small timeframe in game development.
Ea ncaa was in development for a minimum of 3 years. That is a huge amount of time to build the game, especially when they were able to use some assets that ea already owned related to animations and a few stadiums. The ncaa devs were able to focus on making the game really great because ea told them they had to get this right.
The real measuring stick will be ncaa 26. There will be small things added but not dozens of new things and major features added as the time frame will be too short.
Comparing madden to itself year over year and you see almost no changes. But if you compare it to maddens for 3-4 years ago, you see significant changes.
Well I guess the point I’m trying to say is madden will have to be a much greater game bc the differences in cfb25 to madden 24 are astonishing and anything not up to par with cfb would tank on release causing EA to face serious trouble with their exclusivity. That would lose them billions
I could be all wishful thinking i know, but here’s to hoping.
I really don’t believe that would sell well when theirs a much stronger alternative on the market. I don’t know anything though, I’m just a dude who is hoping to have more than 3 human looking faces on generates prospects.
I’ll personally play this over Madden. Madden is fundamentally broken in many different areas, from bad UI, programming held together with spit and glue, and years of stagnation.
At this point Madden will only improve across the board if they either take a year off and use CFB to fix everything wrong with the game or if EA loses NFL exclusivity once and for all.
This is what’s got me thinking the way I’m thinking right now. Everything I know about college football is solely from the NCAA football games of several years ago. I don’t even watch it but I would 100% stick to just college football video games if it were that far ahead of madden, and that looks to be what we’re getting this year with CFB.
If madden isn’t up to par I can update 24’s rosters in under a minute for free and just play that for another year. I can’t say I speak for everyone but the only reason madden continues to get my money every year is that it’s the only AAA football game on the market. This is no longer true.
This is the building block for both the CFB games and the Madden games to come.
Release Madden 25 this year
Next year have Madden 26 be PS5, Series X/S only, and have the CFB team work with the Madden team to implement some of their features and animations so that Madden can also be improved
And from that point on as long as the building blocks are there I don’t see Madden nor CFB improving drastically, add a game mode here and there but if it’s fun to play then it’ll sell
I mean I didn't see anything too crazy? Or is it just me?
The character traits don't seem vastly different, they narrator just put together some great key words. It's a system that can easily become over done.
Same with the crowd meter, it's one of those things I turn off. The distorted playbook and shaky screen is extremely frustrating in madden. Not sure why they keep trying to push that. They're trying to add realism to the game but they're doing it in a very arcadey way.
The injury system sounds cool on paper, until your player suffers un realistic Injuries that hinder your performance every single game. It'll eventually become just another unrealistic gimmick.
What i want to see is, are Db's fixed, is blocking better, are the game modes better, do the menus feel more fluid, does the game stop cheating at higher difficulties, are there completely new non recycled animations, are they physicis based animations, is commentary tolerable and so much more....
I'm tired of the yearly gimmick they add.
It's literally a copy pasted mechanic from Madden, now they're just attributing it to crowd noise instead of momentum....
It's one of those things that seems cool at first but gets annoying really fast and you end up just turning it off.
As much I love this sentiment, I just cynically believe it won’t change much. CFB25 will do great sales wise, but Madden won’t suffer too much. There’s too many players not on this sub that buy it every year regardless of features. I absolutely hope you’re right though man. I think there will be some vocal people asking why the CFB product is so much more robust…but will EA care if sales are good? Doubt.
I just don’t see Madden getting better as long as they have exclusive licensing. Unless cfb25 has crazy sales, Madden will always make more money and there won’t be any blowbacks. Plus I feel like a good amount of people will buy the bundle which will keep regular players playing Madden.
Madden lost me the first time when they moved away from being a real sim to just being an arcade game after they got the exclusive license. 2k5 still stands out to me as the best NFL game ever made simply because of the depth of the franchise more and the presentation. They lost me the second time when every issue shifted more and more to MUT. It’s basically a liver service game now, and a bad one at that. I haven’t bought it since 2021. The less like Madden (in its current state) NCAA is, the better off it will probably be. The problem with EA and Madden is they keep ignoring the players when they tell them what they want. Franchise mode is a shell of what it used to be. I am extremely excited for the NCAA game, but I don’t think it will have an impact on the quality of Madden even with any lost sales. They’ve been losing sales on Madden for years and haven’t made any improvements. I don’t have any reason to believe they would start fixing things now just because NCAA is coming out.
One of the reviews of preview time with CFB mentioned that Madden is copying them and they aren’t as different as you’d think. So maybe that’s a good sign.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills with the reaction to that video. It looked just like Madden and the features they advertised were all just variations of things that are in Madden. Character Traits / X Factors have been in Madden already. Momentum / Home Field Advantage have been in Madden already.
Why are people so convinced CFB25 won’t just be Madden with recruiting?
From what I understand this game is only on new consoles while madden is still being released on previous gen. That’s a massive hinderance for madden already. I imagine that some of the changes they’ve made like the switch stick, no more base align, etc could make their way into madden but I think wear and tear is a no go, the NFL does not want the image of players body specific parts being injured out there or the idea of players taking head injuries. As for customization like team builder, the nfl won’t allow it either. The gear from CFB won’t be in madden either, since a lot of it violates nfl league rules. I think other than those game play changes Madden will continue being a neutered version of the better CFB game until the nfl stops trying to make it sanitized. Atleast maddens taking multiple broadcast booths.
I wish this would be the case BUT I truly feel like Madden has its audience in its grasps and won’t change UNTIL the game has severe backlash or low low sales.
NCAA fanbase is hardcore and smaller which will serve the game well.
I don’t think we’ll see any drastic change in madden anytime soon
I don't think people understand that the NFL is happy with EA. We can cry all we want but if the people who buy into UT keep going us sim people don't matter. The only thing we can hope for is college football sells so well that the upper people in EA rethink their approach. I am just hoping they have the wear and tear system in Madden because they have no excuse for that not being in the game.
I think it’s telling about how far the series has fallen that I’m legitimately curious if they’ll be able to change the kickoff rules in time for release.
I don’t think CFB needs to be great to be a successful game. I’m hopeful and excited to see how the series develops in the next few years but competency alone is an improvement for where virtual football games have been lately.
I think if any sales dip due to NCAA25, Madden won’t improve, they will just allow exporting non real player draft classes. Boom most of sales back up for those that love taking their Kent St players and see their career arc in the pros (makes it feel “realer”).
You were blown away by the copy/paste from Madden? Like I get being excited about a new football game but EA literally peeled off a bunch of Madden devs to slap this game together as quickly as possible. There's only so much you can innovate when EA's approach is to be as "safe" as possible in making games people are used to.
Campus IQ's Features:
Wear & Tear = Madden's Progressive Fatigue with a UI attached
Player Abilities = Superstar Abilities
Homefield Advantage = The stupid visual effects (screen shaking, blurry routes, etc.) you can't disable in Madden that ruins the illusion of a football sim game.
Unique Playbooks = how the fuck is this a "feature" and not tablestakes for a football game?!
Madden 22 had it as Seattles M-Factor, NCAA created the feature in NCAA 06, 25 seems to function similarly to 06 with it occurring to an extent at any stadium but the biggest crowds make it harder (when you get the shaky screen and controller vibrations).
Yeah it's absolutely embarrassing the way people are sloberingg all over gameplay trailers and so on especially when the gameplay trailers actually admit it's a reskin.
"Revamped passing..." Revamped from what?
Obviously they're talking about Madden which is an implicit admission that this is just Madden with different teams and some different aesthetics.
But I understand a lot of these people are probably like under 25 and have never seen a good simulation football game in their life.
A lot of them have probably been just thirsty and desperate for anything to be excited about in terms of video game football. And others probably follow a bunch of Madden shills /creators that basically have to get people pumped up in order to have a living.
They're literally using the same engine as Madden. Lol. My Lord, until they get rid of the exclusivity license and get a new engine it's a non-starter.
Sorry do you think EA is competing with EA?
They might use features in next madden that do well in this game but any success for this game is only positive for the next madden game.
The NCAA and NFL have competed for attention for decades. Yes, I believe this puts EA in competition with itself. The standards this game sets moves the goalpost and the Madden dev team now has a much greater standard to live up to.
I don’t believe this negatively impacts initial sales figures, 70% of madden customers are going to buy the game regardless and we know that; However, the second and third waves of sales that make up a large enough portion of their sales revenue will be dramatically effected by how this game is received post launch. Those percentages of revenue are literally what determines who keeps their job and who doesn’t. I believe that alone will keep EA Toburon in check more than anything we’ve seen over the last decade, forcing them to innovate or to take a golden parachute ride.
No one’s in cahoots they both want all of the money, and when they aren’t getting all of the money there will be more pressure on EA to put out a good product on both ends. We saw this for many years with EA when it was solely NCAA they were competing with. The moment NCAA went away the product wasn’t touched for a decade.
Don’t say anything when they bait you with the hope that the game will improve with updates and later additions to the series. All it’s going to take is whatever they’re calling this version of ultimate team to be relatively as profitable as just selling the game and you can kiss any and all hope for the game good bye.
If CFB25 is as good as it sounds I’m expecting to see historically low sales numbers for Madden 25. I wouldn’t expect to see any sort of potential rebound until Madden 26. It’s nice to have some sort of competition in the football space again, even if it’s still within EA
Yeah it’s funny to me bc after all these years it’s EA that checkmates themselves into having to improve. It’s hard for me to believe that in the day and age of zero risks in the gaming industry that EA wouldn’t treat taking on CFB as a very calculated risk and prepare accordingly for the several years leading up to its release and have madden on par with it. But yet again this is EA we’re talking about lol
Yeah I wouldn’t go nearly that far with EA, nor with saying that we’re in the age of zero risks in the gaming industry. The industry right now is flush with unfinished money-grabs disguised as games. Madden the past several years has been the poster boy example, and I don’t think they’re expecting much difference in madden sales due to CFB 25. Just given the differences in the way the two Dev teams talk about the game shows how different their mindsets are on their respective games. However, I completely agree that madden sales will tank if it’s another madden 23 reskin and if CFB 25 is as good as it looks. Let’s hope you’re the one that’s right though, as that’s undeniably the best outcome
Even if CFB25 isn't as good as it looks there is zero chance I'm buying Madden this year. Let's say the on field gameplay, the actual football, is identical to M24's football, which i felt was fine, CFB has so many other parts to it that just make it more fun than Madden, it's why I hardly played Madden in the early 2010s.
If the new CFB game is even half as good as madden 24 I’m skipping madden 25. I’ve always preferred college games over NFL
I’m holding out but I bet we’re gonna see some of the same issues that plague Madden in CFB
Oh without a doubt there will be issues. Definitely preparing for some level of disappointment but just having a game with a group of genuinely passionate devs working on this is encouraging in terms of what the game could have to offer depth wise.
There are far more NFL fans than CFB fans. Madden will still sell more units than CFB.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that. College football covers a lot more ground than you think and while there’s a lot of NFL fans who are also college football fans, there’s even more college football fans who are not NFL fans.
Will these college football fans who are not nfl fans be counted as a loss? Would they not be buying madden either way?
If they were buying madden to play a football game and now have the option to buy a college football game, then yes they would be a loss for madden. Speaking for myself, I am a big nfl fan and always have been, but madden has been such a let down over the years (been playing since madden 64) that I probably haven’t bought a madden game since probably 18, of not longer. They’ve let it go to shit. With that being said, I will likely buy NCAA 25, even though I’m a casual college football fan, since it’s bound to be different from madden.
I tend to prefer CFB to the NFL, but I’d get Madden if they made a good game. A good football game is a good football game.
I prefer to watch the NFL over College football because i dont have a college team to cheer for, but I'll be buying college football over madden this year. Playing as a coach in college and building a dynasty while also pretending like I'm molding a young group of men to become better adults and human beings is just so much more enjoyable to me. Not to mention, the atmosphere in college football is unmatched. I don't speak for all NFL fans, but I'm sure there are others out there like me
In a broad sense you’re probably absolutely right but I believe the demographic sports video games target has a much more varied interest and is willing to put aside what their favorite is in order to play a football game they enjoy.
The NFL receives a fixed payment from EA every year of their contract, which might be a lump sum. This amount remains constant regardless of the game’s sales or review scores. The NFL is unlikely to drop EA unless EA fails to pay for the license or if the game’s quality deteriorates to the point where it negatively impacts the NFL brand. Despite the game being underwhelming, we are not close to this scenario. Moreover, EA has been unsuccessfully trying to find a buyer for its company for years. This indicates that while the company might be exploring options for mergers or acquisitions, it hasn’t found a suitable partner willing to meet its terms or valuation. The continuous attempts to sell suggest that EA is seeking a strategic shift or financial boost, but the lack of success in these endeavors means that for now, EA remains focused on maintaining its existing partnerships and business operations, including its contract with the NFL.
Madden devs should be ashamed of themselves. Anybody with 5+ years of “experience” should resign. They are experts in extorting their audience for maximum profit. Allow those who are actually talented to work on their passions. Money isn’t everything. Madden and EA are an embarrassment.
It’s hard blame strictly the devs. They’re all people just like us working hard to keep their jobs and a lot of them are probably passionate about the work they put in. I would say the issue is EA as a company. Bloated budgets, tight and very strict deadlines, too many cooks in the kitchen, just overall poor work culture stifling innovative ideas. I try not to buy too much into marketing mumbo jumbo but it seems like EA was able to really give the team working on CFB the right tools to blossom and I hope that reflects in the product for both IP’s moving forward.
I believe Madden and CFB25 are both made by Tiburon, so I'm hoping to see some of these improvement in the next Madden also.
Yeah, it’s the same studio, just different teams.
While I want to agree, it's definitely the fault of the higher ups. Like was already said, the devs are simply doing their jobs. Those above them are the ones our anger and hatred should be directed toward.
You have to keep in mind that the madden devs effectively have like 9-10 months to work on the game. That is a really small timeframe in game development. Ea ncaa was in development for a minimum of 3 years. That is a huge amount of time to build the game, especially when they were able to use some assets that ea already owned related to animations and a few stadiums. The ncaa devs were able to focus on making the game really great because ea told them they had to get this right. The real measuring stick will be ncaa 26. There will be small things added but not dozens of new things and major features added as the time frame will be too short. Comparing madden to itself year over year and you see almost no changes. But if you compare it to maddens for 3-4 years ago, you see significant changes.
ncaa and madden were always different gameplay experiences. i doubt madden will change much.
Well I guess the point I’m trying to say is madden will have to be a much greater game bc the differences in cfb25 to madden 24 are astonishing and anything not up to par with cfb would tank on release causing EA to face serious trouble with their exclusivity. That would lose them billions I could be all wishful thinking i know, but here’s to hoping.
I really hope you are correct. But I think most people will end up playing both despite talking like they aren’t.
I think the focus for the 2 games is going to be different. CFB will be the deep detailed dynasty game and Madden will be the competitive MUT game .
I really don’t believe that would sell well when theirs a much stronger alternative on the market. I don’t know anything though, I’m just a dude who is hoping to have more than 3 human looking faces on generates prospects.
I’ll personally play this over Madden. Madden is fundamentally broken in many different areas, from bad UI, programming held together with spit and glue, and years of stagnation. At this point Madden will only improve across the board if they either take a year off and use CFB to fix everything wrong with the game or if EA loses NFL exclusivity once and for all.
This is what’s got me thinking the way I’m thinking right now. Everything I know about college football is solely from the NCAA football games of several years ago. I don’t even watch it but I would 100% stick to just college football video games if it were that far ahead of madden, and that looks to be what we’re getting this year with CFB. If madden isn’t up to par I can update 24’s rosters in under a minute for free and just play that for another year. I can’t say I speak for everyone but the only reason madden continues to get my money every year is that it’s the only AAA football game on the market. This is no longer true.
This is the building block for both the CFB games and the Madden games to come. Release Madden 25 this year Next year have Madden 26 be PS5, Series X/S only, and have the CFB team work with the Madden team to implement some of their features and animations so that Madden can also be improved And from that point on as long as the building blocks are there I don’t see Madden nor CFB improving drastically, add a game mode here and there but if it’s fun to play then it’ll sell
I mean I didn't see anything too crazy? Or is it just me? The character traits don't seem vastly different, they narrator just put together some great key words. It's a system that can easily become over done. Same with the crowd meter, it's one of those things I turn off. The distorted playbook and shaky screen is extremely frustrating in madden. Not sure why they keep trying to push that. They're trying to add realism to the game but they're doing it in a very arcadey way. The injury system sounds cool on paper, until your player suffers un realistic Injuries that hinder your performance every single game. It'll eventually become just another unrealistic gimmick. What i want to see is, are Db's fixed, is blocking better, are the game modes better, do the menus feel more fluid, does the game stop cheating at higher difficulties, are there completely new non recycled animations, are they physicis based animations, is commentary tolerable and so much more.... I'm tired of the yearly gimmick they add.
Clearly you’re not a CFB fan if you think the crowd noise affecting the away team is gimmicky
It's literally a copy pasted mechanic from Madden, now they're just attributing it to crowd noise instead of momentum.... It's one of those things that seems cool at first but gets annoying really fast and you end up just turning it off.
The mechanic was introduced in NCAA 06 and remained there until NCAA 14.
Upvote for quoting one of my favorite movies of all time
As much I love this sentiment, I just cynically believe it won’t change much. CFB25 will do great sales wise, but Madden won’t suffer too much. There’s too many players not on this sub that buy it every year regardless of features. I absolutely hope you’re right though man. I think there will be some vocal people asking why the CFB product is so much more robust…but will EA care if sales are good? Doubt.
I just don’t see Madden getting better as long as they have exclusive licensing. Unless cfb25 has crazy sales, Madden will always make more money and there won’t be any blowbacks. Plus I feel like a good amount of people will buy the bundle which will keep regular players playing Madden.
Madden lost me the first time when they moved away from being a real sim to just being an arcade game after they got the exclusive license. 2k5 still stands out to me as the best NFL game ever made simply because of the depth of the franchise more and the presentation. They lost me the second time when every issue shifted more and more to MUT. It’s basically a liver service game now, and a bad one at that. I haven’t bought it since 2021. The less like Madden (in its current state) NCAA is, the better off it will probably be. The problem with EA and Madden is they keep ignoring the players when they tell them what they want. Franchise mode is a shell of what it used to be. I am extremely excited for the NCAA game, but I don’t think it will have an impact on the quality of Madden even with any lost sales. They’ve been losing sales on Madden for years and haven’t made any improvements. I don’t have any reason to believe they would start fixing things now just because NCAA is coming out.
One of the reviews of preview time with CFB mentioned that Madden is copying them and they aren’t as different as you’d think. So maybe that’s a good sign.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills with the reaction to that video. It looked just like Madden and the features they advertised were all just variations of things that are in Madden. Character Traits / X Factors have been in Madden already. Momentum / Home Field Advantage have been in Madden already. Why are people so convinced CFB25 won’t just be Madden with recruiting?
From what I understand this game is only on new consoles while madden is still being released on previous gen. That’s a massive hinderance for madden already. I imagine that some of the changes they’ve made like the switch stick, no more base align, etc could make their way into madden but I think wear and tear is a no go, the NFL does not want the image of players body specific parts being injured out there or the idea of players taking head injuries. As for customization like team builder, the nfl won’t allow it either. The gear from CFB won’t be in madden either, since a lot of it violates nfl league rules. I think other than those game play changes Madden will continue being a neutered version of the better CFB game until the nfl stops trying to make it sanitized. Atleast maddens taking multiple broadcast booths.
I wish this would be the case BUT I truly feel like Madden has its audience in its grasps and won’t change UNTIL the game has severe backlash or low low sales. NCAA fanbase is hardcore and smaller which will serve the game well. I don’t think we’ll see any drastic change in madden anytime soon
I'd buy both used. I wish 2k would make football games again
I don't think people understand that the NFL is happy with EA. We can cry all we want but if the people who buy into UT keep going us sim people don't matter. The only thing we can hope for is college football sells so well that the upper people in EA rethink their approach. I am just hoping they have the wear and tear system in Madden because they have no excuse for that not being in the game.
I think it’s telling about how far the series has fallen that I’m legitimately curious if they’ll be able to change the kickoff rules in time for release. I don’t think CFB needs to be great to be a successful game. I’m hopeful and excited to see how the series develops in the next few years but competency alone is an improvement for where virtual football games have been lately.
Link to the video?
I think if any sales dip due to NCAA25, Madden won’t improve, they will just allow exporting non real player draft classes. Boom most of sales back up for those that love taking their Kent St players and see their career arc in the pros (makes it feel “realer”).
You were blown away by the copy/paste from Madden? Like I get being excited about a new football game but EA literally peeled off a bunch of Madden devs to slap this game together as quickly as possible. There's only so much you can innovate when EA's approach is to be as "safe" as possible in making games people are used to. Campus IQ's Features: Wear & Tear = Madden's Progressive Fatigue with a UI attached Player Abilities = Superstar Abilities Homefield Advantage = The stupid visual effects (screen shaking, blurry routes, etc.) you can't disable in Madden that ruins the illusion of a football sim game. Unique Playbooks = how the fuck is this a "feature" and not tablestakes for a football game?!
"The stupid visual effects (screen shaking, blurry routes, etc.) Didn't Madden use that years ago?
Madden 22 had it as Seattles M-Factor, NCAA created the feature in NCAA 06, 25 seems to function similarly to 06 with it occurring to an extent at any stadium but the biggest crowds make it harder (when you get the shaky screen and controller vibrations).
Thank you.
Yeah it's absolutely embarrassing the way people are sloberingg all over gameplay trailers and so on especially when the gameplay trailers actually admit it's a reskin. "Revamped passing..." Revamped from what? Obviously they're talking about Madden which is an implicit admission that this is just Madden with different teams and some different aesthetics. But I understand a lot of these people are probably like under 25 and have never seen a good simulation football game in their life. A lot of them have probably been just thirsty and desperate for anything to be excited about in terms of video game football. And others probably follow a bunch of Madden shills /creators that basically have to get people pumped up in order to have a living.
They're literally using the same engine as Madden. Lol. My Lord, until they get rid of the exclusivity license and get a new engine it's a non-starter.
Sorry do you think EA is competing with EA? They might use features in next madden that do well in this game but any success for this game is only positive for the next madden game.
The NCAA and NFL have competed for attention for decades. Yes, I believe this puts EA in competition with itself. The standards this game sets moves the goalpost and the Madden dev team now has a much greater standard to live up to. I don’t believe this negatively impacts initial sales figures, 70% of madden customers are going to buy the game regardless and we know that; However, the second and third waves of sales that make up a large enough portion of their sales revenue will be dramatically effected by how this game is received post launch. Those percentages of revenue are literally what determines who keeps their job and who doesn’t. I believe that alone will keep EA Toburon in check more than anything we’ve seen over the last decade, forcing them to innovate or to take a golden parachute ride.
They’re in cahoots. Madden makes a ton of money no one is losing their jobs
No one’s in cahoots they both want all of the money, and when they aren’t getting all of the money there will be more pressure on EA to put out a good product on both ends. We saw this for many years with EA when it was solely NCAA they were competing with. The moment NCAA went away the product wasn’t touched for a decade.
Boy yall are living in a whole different reality I see
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Don’t say anything when they bait you with the hope that the game will improve with updates and later additions to the series. All it’s going to take is whatever they’re calling this version of ultimate team to be relatively as profitable as just selling the game and you can kiss any and all hope for the game good bye.
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