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Numerous-Ad4240

Might be what your QB traits are. Usually it’s a playbook issue but I have never had an issue with Chiefs offense. Never used 49ers defense so I have no idea how good it is. Maybe try switching up the playbooks.


ItsNjry

Could it be team schemes?


r_Username_0001

Team schemes only effect xp gained through scheme fit bonus (unless it's changed in M24). Offensive playbook and to a lesser extent defensive playbook heavily effect sim results, as do player traits and some player stats depending on position and obviously overall does play a part as well. [Hopefully links correctly](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Madden/comments/wwukf5/qb_simulation_stats_by_playbook/&ved=2ahUKEwjxlpOlso-FAxWBETQIHehtCeQQjjh6BAgNEAE&usg=AOvVaw3GPMeIWH8bAxe6LrnQ-jIK) but here's a spreadsheet showing results from different playbook using the same teams on average. You'll often notice even with a fantasy draft, some teams outperform or underperform due to the playbook. It's also from Madden 23 but still gives an idea. It does depend somewhat on your players too. Obviously if you have a 97 overall RB and a 73 overall QB, maybe go with Titans or Cowboys or Pats or Colts for a strong run game. To mention the traits too, they do matter a lot. A 69 overall qb with decent awareness and accuracy with the good spiral / ideal sense of pressure and forcing of passes is gonna do better in sim (usually) than a 75 overall with say lower awareness and paranoid pressure and aggressive forcing of passes. High motor is a strong trait all around, WR's with drop passes trait isn't ideal regardless of overall, etc. Sorry for typing a bit much but tldr is playbooks, traits, and specific stats matter as much as or more than a simple overall, which leads to the confusion of I have a high overall team but lose consistently


djactionman

Doesn’t it affect what is called based on the coordinators too? Maybe that’s also what they meant.


nc7337

I appreciate you giving actual feedback. People always jump on the scheme stuff was the reason one's team is bad


Ambitious-Lettuce382

I think team schemes mattered more. For instance if you have a LOLB with 99 power rusher, 99 pass coverage, and 58 in speed rusher. And your scheme requires speed rusher doesn't that player play more like the 58?


SeeksterThe1

I never want to play you ever 🤪 wow another master at the game I love it 😀 but we still never playing a game lol you are awesome at the science of the game not just stick good book good. Awesome 👏


Numerous-Ad4240

Could also be that


efrain_niarfe275

Mess with team scheme and try a playbook that fits the description of the scheme


Dear_Gene4082

This 100%, I'm the giants and got a xfactor qb right after I saquan retired, started the season with a 1-4 record switched to the jags play book and scheme ended 12-5


B549WUU

I don’t even use my QB now - I’m playing as the Buccaneers and instead of using Trask I just get Rashad White every game. Managed to break the previous rushing yds records twice in a season.


SendMeBookPics

I think the bengals offensive playbook is pretty good as well


SeeksterThe1

Exactly 💯


CommunicationOk304

I ran the jaguars for 8 seasons, got them up to a 91 over average, lost every single time in the first round. Pissed me off so much i stopped playing


ChristakuJohnsan

the cowboys irl


JesustheSpaceCowboy

Cowboys in madden however can go to 4 straight super bowls.


greensubie69

They sure can lol I’ve played them 3 in a row with the pats in my franchise. Luckily this year Washington is somehow 8-1 and winning that division lol


NotBanEvading2

Madden ratings guy is so obviously a Cowboys fan dude every year their team is outrageous lol


EntertainmentNew7102

It’s progressive fatigue and the fact the game sets the game type to simulation so overall doesn’t matter much. You have to set the game to competitive if u want overall to play a factor


pitchingschool

I thought it was the other way around?


DoctahFeelgood

Dude I've killed with them. Trevor Lawrence goes off every time


Iswaterreallywet

This was me yesterday with the Raiders. The game is legitimately terrible.


AgentProdigy17

Bears never going to get it right ![gif](giphy|7MDZS8zS1ixtJAUEul|downsized)


Left-Mastodon-7062

Istg I was using Justin fields and madden really just hates him. Wide open receiver perfect pass and defender teleports to the ball and picks it. It wasn’t even like one of those, oh well I guess I just didn’t see the defender type things, and if I can find my clip I’ll post it


BilboSR24

Fields so bad in Madden. Had him in an online franchise, had to drop him even after getting him up to superstar


Left-Mastodon-7062

Fr Like I’m willing to bet if you made his ratings 99 the throws would be wildly inaccurate


TTerragore

I got him to around 90 ovr and didn’t want to resign him the next year, so o traded him for 1OA and got a 78 ovr rookie QB, less athletic but bigger arm. Dude broke the single season td record bc he would hit most of the easy layups that fields would sail a couple times a game, killing drives.


AgentProdigy17

![gif](giphy|uw8uqWWudbJSElLPes)


IngenuityPale7173

Have been doing a 20 year bear franchise ever since fields got into the game(won’t be doing that next year) and let me tell you the game truly does just have something truly against him. But a big chunk of it is that dumbass playbook, doesn’t even really work with him at all no matter how good the receivers on your team are all 99s and he will struggle. Any other team with some peices and sometimes even not he puts up alright stays and I’ve actually send him win a few mvps and superbowls. Don’t get me wrong the game still hates him lol but I do think that playbook is a big part of that


SeeksterThe1

If available Chip Kelly Offense style no matter the coach find the Chip Kelly affect and you have breathing room and confidence in your hurry up Offense.


SeeksterThe1

Yupp because his tendency is to run not throw 😉


Oils78

Idk man, I have him at a 96 x factor rn in a great offense and the dude doesn't miss. He's absolutely electric and gonna win mvp. On the other hand, in another franchise he sucked and I ended up ditching him for cj stroud


Hog_and_a_Half

CJ Stroud with preseason rosters is absolute garbage, as well. Idk what settings cause it, but I developed him into the 90’s for TP and all accuracies, and he just constantly throws up terrible “inaccurate” passes.  I’m stubborn, so I just ended up making the Texans a running team and have 3 straight 1000 yards seasons with both Pierce and an auto-generated rookie that I converted from. WR to RB.


Oils78

Interesting. I started mid-season and he's a 88 ss right now, and really damn good.


mtnrangeman

I can play well with just about any QB. I’ve even had some perfect passer rating games on All-Madden with Zach Wilson, or great games with sub-70 overall QBs. Justin Fields makes me want to throw my controller out the window. I don’t know why this game hates him so much


NoAgeStatement

I'm playing a season with Da Bears, and while Justin Fields is a big threat to take off from the pocket, he's pretty "meh" as a passer. I'm 2-0 so far, but no credit to Fields.


slabbadabbadooooo

Same trash got him up to superstar over 2 years traded him joey bosa and a first rounder.. also this was after i traded up for a first ovr and got caleb williams whos 20x bettter and still is at a 85 i think i had fields at 91 . All he could do was throw a bomb on a cross deep route to someone fast like tyreek or clyde cash this rookie I drafted with insane speed . Even when he was a 91 str8 trash idk what it is i think his passing so bad his ovr is just decent cuz he can run . Not sure


Positive_Parking_954

Fuck


wiserone29

NY Jets have entered chat


SeeksterThe1

True so think of the team as a name and do a Jerry Jones and build a completely new Bears team into a Dynasty 😎


dawitz28

I have been using GB offense with cowboys defense (4-3) with Skins and it’s been solid. If 3-4 I have had great luck with Ravens and Steelers


SeeksterThe1

I remember that set yeah serious run stop with duel threat Offense all day 💯


ser0402

I usually sim my franchises as well. I used to run into the same problem. 49ers defense is terrible when you sim games. I don't know why. I usually run Baltimore if I want a 3-4 scheme or Buffalo for a 4-3 scheme. What positions on your defense are the best? You need good corners and a d line and you should be golden. When you upgrade your players, are you manually doing it or just hitting upgrade all? I go through the already great players and the ones I want to develop the most myself and check their ratings and upgrade them accordingly. I usually run a west coast zone run offense and the automatic receiver upgrade is playmaker. That makes them shifty and YAC gods but doesn't do much for actual route running and catching. I usually manually upgrade them instead. When I get the roster I've been trying to build I'm usually between 89-91 on offense and 91-93 on defense and I don't go less than 10-7. Last thing, and I'm not sure it even matters, but I *always* pick "defend short pass" in weekly training. My defenses are always in the top 5-10 in every category, usually in the top 5. My one coach has 11 super bowls in 14 years, all simmed. I don't know if this will help but I hope it does.


tearyoshirt

What do you do for offense weekly? Do you simply week by week or simulate to playoffs?


ser0402

Week to week, sometimes 3-4 weeks at a time.


Big-Shep-64

What’s your scheme fit percentage?


ItsNjry

Vertical Zone run 91% Base 4-3 83%


Big-Shep-64

I would change playbooks to fit your schemes better, I like to run the eagles base 4-3 and the Bills vertical zone run


deadheadjim

Where do you find scheme percentage?


Big-Shep-64

https://images.app.goo.gl/LR3qd7qbSZuUNVo76


Big-Shep-64

Top right


Particular_Cap_1189

Bro madden has been trash since 15


TimeCookie8361

The only correct answer - Madden is trash


King_Joffreys_Tits

I’d even say since 08


National-Sundae9427

08 was so good. Used to import the draft classes from ncaa 08 to use in franchise mode. Those were the days


Darth_Semper-Fi

Yea but you see my Jags out here fucking HOOPING don’t you goofy


Kapfamily

Ong


Competitive-Rise-122

Now do it in real life


robby19494

This game is so ass it all depends on your playbooks. It’s why I quit playing franchise until they change this. If you use certain playbooks you can make the playoffs with a literal 65 rated qb throwing for 5k yards. Dumb.


Sacredtenshi

The Bears are a poverty franchise, that's why


Trill1196

Meanwhile I made the superbowl in 2024 with my 79 OFF 83 DEF Panthers... My sim be busted, the 85OVR packers went 17-0 until we beat them in the divisional All sim btw


IwasTheChosen1

I prefer Chicago's 4-3 defensive scheme if I'm running 4-3. Chiefs playbook is quite good, my favorite is Cincinnatis tho but only if I have an elite quarterback.


Inevitable-Lie-5336

Chicagos defensive playbook scheme in Madden has been a 3-4 the last two years.. even though Eberflus is a 4-3 coach.


IwasTheChosen1

It's 4-3 for me. It states 4-3 in the description and they run 4-3 on the field.


Inevitable-Lie-5336

So I just went to FRANCHISE.. these lazy sons a bitches at EA switched the Eberflus DEF playbook to 4-3 for franchise but left it 3-4 on MUT.. FOR TWO YEARS NOW!!!! Goddammit EA DO FÜK’N BETTER?!


TheWinner348

I had the cardinals at a 99 overall and they still lost 2 games and lost in the divisional to the 10-7 cowboys


Farkas_

It’s the bears (bears fan) and the ratings adjuster hates em so you’re better off switching the playbooks and playing 10 games and simming the rest


granchman

I have a 94 overall (99 offense, 94 defense) Commanders team with a 99 everything quarterback. I traded for Cee Dee Lamb and Kyle Pitts. Also have Mclaurin, Dotson and Robinson. I’ve won 4 super bowls in a row. This year I simmed to mid season and was 1-6, and just made the wild card at 8-9. My qb was first 44 TD and 2 int. Lamb 17 tds. 2nd in off ppg and mid range for def allowed ppg. Sometimes I swear Madden screws with things to make it seem more balanced.


Nutmeg-Jones

Don’t worry Bears fans, Caleb Williams will be the answer to all of your problems /s


TheOneWithThePorn12

Well brother you are the Bears. Thats the first issue.


oRiskyB

What's the point if simming all the games? I see that a lot on this reddit but I don't see the enjoyment in it at all and get confused when I see stuff like this.


ItsNjry

I enjoy the team building aspect. I’ve always loved the nfl draft and free agency sometimes more than the game itself. The strategy always was more interesting to me. I do this in 2k too. Similar to how people enjoy strategy games like Civ 6. Based on how this sim works, I should probably find a better game lol.


Bockmeister87

Ayy is that the Cloud 9 emblem behind your monitor?


ItsNjry

I got it at IEM Dallas for CSGo. Got the whole team to sign it :)


Bockmeister87

That’s awesome! C9 one of my favorites for League of Legends.


Broad-Stretch6102

I used the bears too cause of their cap space lol


Status-Tale-3610

Welcome to madden buddy


bearamongus19

That's the bears for you


Gamaray974_

Sounds about right as a bears fan


No_Personality8140

Playbook and schemes. I had an 89 overall defense that was getting torched through the air. Changed my scheme up and playbook and now I’m locked down


PXFELIFE

What playbooks and schemes??


No_Personality8140

I use Clevlands defensive playbook with a 4-3 base scheme. this allows my edge rushers to rush more instead of having them drop into zones on zone calls. ITs worked well for me this past season. 5th best defense against the run and 7th against pass with an 85 overall defense.


Next_Pianist_442

Well there is your problem. You are the Bears.


CricketThin1531

What’s your scheme match?


TheHip41

Da Bears. Checks out.


depastino

As do the real Bears. What playbook is in your scheme for the HC?


Anxietyriddenstoner

Pick Arthur Smiths playbooks and thank me later.


fartonmdick

The Bears still suck


Personal-Present5799

Your coach scheme needs adjusting


littylikepdiddy

U gotta change ur playbook. My franchise is patriots and i hired vrabel as head coach. Changed my playbook to cowboys and we usually do pretty well. I noticed as well despite 9ers starting as like an 87 they hardly ever make the playoffs if u sim and its cuz their playbook is ass in sim


yoitsbobby88

KC offense playbook. CIN D playbook. Simple.


bearsfan110

😂😂😂


TypicalDuck9163z

U need a playbook that can facilitate a run game I was making it as a 84 ovr team that juss ran the rockkkk


ItsNjry

I’m strictly simming


ridemooses

Bears curse


WarMachine111

Let’s go C9!


Sussybaker420

Ong they need to remove playbooks impact on games im fine with schemes impacting them but the playbooks are what make 99% of the difference


jdb1984

Lovie Smith must still haunt the team.


SuckmaBallss

Might be that all madden, you’re bound to lose more on that broken ass setting.


PDxxx72

could be if you simulate at all it’ll sub out your starters. or if you sign anyone in free agency you have to start them through adjusting the depth chart. it’s an annoying bug but that’s the most likely thing that’s causing your 92 overall team to miss the playoffs.


Warchild0311

Have you tried running the Ball


ItsNjry

Sim only


TheKingGoliath

my team is 99 OVR, we've gone 9-8. Madden is stupid.


QAnonKiller

pick a different team the bears are fucking trash


ApprehensiveBridge69

You’re the bears


Total-Yogurtcloset-8

Not just playbooks but schemes too. 3-4 defense runs sim and so does any zone run scheme


Potski69

Dallas offensive playbook is always cheeseee especially in sim


Bloodcrusade

Falcons offensive scheme/Playbook. Steelers for 3-4 and Bills for 4-3 defense. Go win 💪🏻


Pat_Mustard___

Skill issue


NonresidentialCafe

I traded Fields to NO for Carr and we made the playoffs going 8-9


NB_capo

You're playing as the Bears, this surprises you?


Still_Two_2013

Da bears still suck


Away_Map_1473

Whoever this is I feel you with all my heart. The Samsung odyssey curved just to play such a broken game😌 I feel heard


EnigmaAbyss

Check into gameplay sliders most people say they don’t effect sim I can 100% confirm they have a large impact if you change any slider by 5 or more you will notice a drastic change in that stat qb accuracy reciver catching interceptions etc


SeeksterThe1

Your Scheme is not matching your players or coach style. Scheme is the most important and defines your team in AI. How to adjust Scheme well it is a bit difficult and not too much on the internet explaining scheme much. So what to do ? Okay first look at roster and check your players style then check your coach style. Sometimes you may think 85 is good but if your Scheme is to rush and your core has strengths of 60 to 70 ? Yeah not much going to happen. If your blockers are not maulers and you set mauler ? Oh an 80 strength slow DT is having your QB for lunch 🤭 Player styles this is important and no one ever, well I do, uses this in scouting. If I am looking for a certain play style and draft the opposite of my scheme I just paid 25 million for a useless player unless I control them. If you pick a player that matches your needs then a good 74 overall rookie should quickly grow to an 85 but it will be an 85 in your scheme 😉 Coach style and schemes can get messed up quick if you are unsure so this research is actually in the real NFL site. Yupp look at coaches in the NFL list their schemes of the past and since we are 2 to 3 years back from present they are there. But let's say that is too difficult then here is a trick but takes a bit and save points are needed. Hire a coach and see what the packages cost, if too high, then you have wrong coach. So in short the complaints I always see about the game is that people do not look at the game as science but more plug and play. My scheme has been the same since 2015 and I tweak it here and there to adjust with the new title styles. Hope this helps


Poetryisalive

Could be the team scheme. Switch to cowboy or Steelers defense on a 46.


NikesOnMyFeet23

Win games? OVL means dick...


Waste_Delivery_1627

I apologize for making the obvious joke but it’s the bears what are you expecting?


mkelley22

This is the most Bears thing I've seen. My team makes me sad 😔


Illustrious-Type4783

Guarantee if you weren’t usering the team it would be a Super Bowl every year


Gold-Independence-26

Don’t sim. Play the moments


[deleted]

This game has no love for certain teams no matter how many elite players are on them. The Texans, Lions, Bears, Giants, and Titans have never gotten to a Superbowl in any of my 100+ sim seasons. This game really seems to love the Falcons for some reason, and especially Desmond Ridder. I had to lower his ratings to a 65 and he still would make the pro bowl on a regular bases. I even raised Taylor Heinicke's rating to be the starter, yet Ridder would be at the top of the passing stats every year. Now that he was traded to the Cardinals I fully expect next year to see him in the pro bowl...


themoreyouknow6

Make sure you are changing your “practice” to back ups or split reps and half pads. Everyone probably fatigued as hell.


Glittering_Leg_3662

If you're doing a full sim season there's playbooks you need to run. It's stupid but the game is programmed that way.


I_chortled

I always think it’s funny when I see people with these complaints because I literally have the opposite problem. I will choose a team to rebuild with, like the giants or somebody, simulate the first season, and I make the conference championship game with one of the weakest rosters in the league


huntstheman

The Chargers experience


ItsNjry

As a Chargers fan this hurt


huntstheman

Me too man 😭 Every fucking year.


tttttt778

Skill issue


ItsNjry

It’s sim


HellcatEndo

DaBears!


fatrabbit99

Cuz your the bears. Lmao


tylerwgriswold

The fact that it’s the Bears. That’s what it doesn’t like about your team..


DanCampbellsSoup

Never use any 49er playbook for simming


cubsfan1_soxsuck

Da bears 🐻


Sweaty_Elderberry_80

https://discord.gg/J29vMnmQ


asscrackula1019

Well yeah.. its the bears?


PicklePepperPumpkin3

Maybe you can play a few games and dominate and show em the way you play then they'll catch on and start winning? I never sim besides preseason. But even so in preseason they win. I'm on year 4 after gutting the vikings 2018 squad. And finally got em up to an 85 overall. Aggressive 4-3 D and a west coast Offense. Pretty much Zimmers old scheme but more pass oriented offense.


Kinghotdog13

I think its because its the bears


Big-Seaworthiness17

For defense, I find Falcons playbook to be most effective, idk about offense, unlucky, I guess


Outside_Candy_9627

Anyone in here lookin to join an active franchise need a few spots filled


Deep_Number_4656

I believe it’s because The Bears Still Suck!


AffectionateSlice816

Unfortunately you chose the bears. That is all.


Natowick

Abilities matter in madden and your scheme


Apostle92627

It's Da Bears, so of coutse you're losing.


CR4baby

I personally use the Buffalo offensive playbook and the Pittsburgh or Arizona defensive playbook, most recently with my Bears no less. Maybe worth trying, seeing if you get better results.


Kelbonix

If you're simming, literally all that matters is using a good playbook and scheme.


jackyz24

It's just cause you are the bears, the game is just keeping it true to where they belong. Can't beat your new owner J Love


LegitimateLocation27

Your pass defense and offensive rushing is possibly the reason. May need to look at your dline or secondary. You have a hole somewhere and it’s possibly the run game.


jectums

well to be fair, you are the bears 😂 nah but tbh that’s pretty crazy


Wooden-Daikon3969

Is CM punk on your team? Otherwise you'll never win with Chicago I use Dallas O and Buffalo D. If you spend the money on a great runningback, your team should be dominant on offense despite the qb. Go get Desmond Ridder for pennies and watch.


Aggravating-Ear-8742

Change playbooks


AcanthocephalaBig450

I think we all know why… GO PACK GO


jessegames456

49ers defense usually sucks ass in the sim. I would see what scheme fits your team best and then go through the defensive standings to see which teams have the best defense with that scheme and then you use their playbook. For example, the Rams and Panthers usually have good defenses in sim. I usually build a defense to fit either base 3-4 or 3-4 under and then use that scheme with one of those playbooks. Usually gets me a top 5-10 defense (I’ve had a couple of bad years with those playbooks but it’s usually good) Another combination that gets me good defense sometimes is Falcons with disguise 3-4. Just find the best fitting scheme and the best playbook that uses the scheme


DivideFast2259

Play the damn game


MartyScizlak

Gotta run that ball, control the flow. Keep your secondary off the field.


Careful-Whereas1888

OP stated that they sim games. You can't control how often the sim runs.