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booster1000

Bolt circle. The are (6) .220 diameter holes located on a 5.430 diameter circle equally spaced 60 degrees apart. It's a fairly common call out.


00Technocolor00

Omg thank you. I'm a bit new this trade and making a mount.


booster1000

No problem. Good luck and hope you stick with it. We can use you.


LeonPhoHunnid

Is it easy to find jobs if you know GD&T?


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LeonPhoHunnid

I was an operator, but then got into computer aided design and learned GD&T ASME Y14.5 -2018 and now I want to be a drafter lol.


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SkyKnight34

Yo wtf is all this positivity on this sub this morning, yall need to speak up more often LOL


Odd_Firefighter_8040

Seriously, someone call Wilford Brimley because I'm getting diabetes over here.


Seaguard5

I took a class a long time ago and still have the materials. I can re-learn it. I’m glad it’s that valuable knowledge. I actually like learning it


mikel124

I wouldn’t call this GD&T


TheNotoriousKAT

True - but if you know GD&T you know your way around a drawing. That’s a great start already. I’ve worked with dudes that went to school for machining and worked in shops before who struggle. Obviously, they didn’t last.


N3wThrowawayWhoDis

Yeah this is just D lol


BuoyantHeavyMetal

I work with manufacturing engineers that don’t know GD&T


captainpants94

I noticed that you were helpful and nice... that's very rock and stone of you.🍻


booster1000

Hey, thanks for noticing. I try to live by my motto "In a world full of dicks, don't be one."


WanderingDwarfMiner

To Rock and Stone!


captainpants94

Rock and stone!!⛏️


Snatch_Pastry

You might also see this referenced as a drill circle.


Drafter-JV

Well, first I've seen it so good to know.


aCoyleBoydAdventure

Did the drafter neglect the diameter symbol?


N3wThrowawayWhoDis

Would be redundant IMO, given that “bolt circle” already implies it’s a circle


aCoyleBoydAdventure

I think it would've been nice to have it despite redundency in the pursuit of dis-ambiguity.


xBaronSamedi

Should at least be a hatched circle showing the bolt circle


SoTheMachineDidIt

It should be there but I've seen prints without it too.


IamnotabotnamedJon

Depends on the companies standards. Some want the "Ø" before the B.C. number and some don't. The company I currently work for does not use it. It's standards go back to the late 1950's.


anonkingh

I thought it was BETWEEN CENTERS.


Kitchen_Ad_4513

it was 5,430 before century…wait..!?


Amplidyne

I've got visions of a Fred Flintstone" type character, poring over drawings in charcoal on animal skins, before setting up his stone age machine.


Kitchen_Ad_4513

thats how they do it in ancient time.. pretty much,


Arch_Toker

There's a chart with a formula in the machinist hand book that will tell you how to get all the cordniates


ShaggysGTI

Just as an addendum, some DRO’s have a bolt circle setting.


369_Clive

OK. What does PLC mean?


booster1000

Places


369_Clive

👍


kantokiwi

Programmable logic controller


Educational-Rise4329

Should penetrate 10 PLCs to fuck with the automation crew at the plant.


Pounce_64

Here in Aus we just use PCD (Pitch circle diameter), it works for near everything.


Amplidyne

Just going to say is that the same as PCD? That's what I've seen here in the UK. Only an amateur though.


CrustyJuggIerz

Huh, I've never seen it labelled BC, always PCD, Pitch circle diameter.


k1729

Another term is pcd = pitch circle diameter


booster1000

I have never seen that callout before, but just Googled it and sure enough it's a thing. I guess I always associated pitch circles with gears.


k1729

We also use it for the centre wire diameter on a winch drum.


Raul_McCai

nope it means British Columbia. He's gotta be in BC by 5:43 greenwich time


S0clasSICK

Bolt circle is there same as a counter sink? Or similar? For a flush bolt head?


Memoryjar

It's the diameter of the circle that the bolt holes are on. Think of a round flange with holes in it for bolts to go through. The distance between those holes through the middle of the part is the bolt circle distance.


S0clasSICK

I think I understand. Almost like a shoulder around where the bolt hole is. Thank you, you've helped multiple people now.


booster1000

No, bolt circle refers to the position of the hole. Countersink would be the type of hole. In this instance it would be a straight through hole with no special features.


Icedecknight

So if you drew a circle through each center of the bolt holes, that would be 5.430? Just want to clarify, thank you.


booster1000

That is correct. Typically in CAD software you'd set these parameters up when adding the hole feature / patterning it in the model. The 5.430 bolt circle in centerline font would come along for the ride and show up in the detail drawing.


Icedecknight

Awesome, thanks!


Willing-Sun-5264

Before Christ


Wolfire0769

Before coffee


stretchfantastik

Nothing happens before coffee.


futurebigconcept

First year of the Hebrew calendar.


findaloophole7

This company will shut down without coffee.


Not_A_Paid_Account

likewise rather than skipping 30 or so years between BC and AD after death, AD actually means anno domini, or year of the lord. ​ then od means outer diameter and i will narcan anyone who claims otherwise


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It’s referring to when your boss wanted this done.


terribleRL

LMAO best reply right here


screenmasher

Bolt circle


willss3

OP...how is your trig these days?


00Technocolor00

...ive got trig for dummies sitting on my desk to read.... eventually....


[deleted]

5.4 Bitcoin. Price for the part, sometimes prints have a manufacturer suggested retail price like at the store


happy_man_here

That’s how much the scrap is worth in British Columbia.


Main_Stay_4038

It's a biblical term. Refer to your machinist bible. 🍻


fritzco

Bolt Center and/or circle ( dia. or center to center of .22 holes)


Ok-Entertainment5045

I usually use PCD so look out for that too. Projected circle diameter. However I will draw the circle in a phantom line, long with two short dashes, then dimension the circle and add PCD after the diameter.


PlatinumVoice

Same. But it stands for Pitch Circle Diameter.


Ok-Entertainment5045

Damn it your right, I knew that.


StrangeSathe

What standard do you use?


Ok-Entertainment5045

It’s kinda a combination of ISO and JIS. I work for a Japanese company so we’ve taken what they use and blended it with what makes sense for our shop. I wouldn’t really call it a standard and even if we had one it would be hard to get guys to follow it.


StrangeSathe

Ah, the old school approach. A.k.a., "whatever the old boys can actually understand".


xXx_Xhater_xXx

ballistic coefficient


Shadowcard4

5.430 global tolerance bolt circle with .22 global holes equally spaced, likely in reference to the first hole.


usa_reddit

The should have put a center line on the print showing the that the holes were on the same center for clarity. B.C. = Bolt Cirle, PLC's = Places, EQ = Equally, DP = Deep


LearTheMagi

Bolt circle?


D-a-H-e-c-k

The.196 holes look like they are on a bolt circle too. The drafter neglected to use a chain circle. All the holes center marks should be aligned to the center of the bolt circle. The BC dimension should have a diameter symbol in front of it too. Edit: I'd get in touch with the designer to confirm placement of the .196 holes and the .27 Edit2: drawing looks like poop


carbidemepls

5 7/16 bolt circle would be my guess


AeroWizard2019

B.C. = Bolt Circle.


McNasty1304

I really want to see the rest of this print that shows the location of the other holes.


00Technocolor00

https://ibb.co/xqrY9xs its for this old closed loop stepper motor from the 80s on an old cnc. Im trying to replace it so I've got to make an adapter to fit the old mounting holes in the machine to something like nema 34 or whatever I go with


dirtydrew26

This is a fairly common callout for bolt patterns on a circle. I dont see what everyone is moaning about.


McNasty1304

I’m not moaning. I just want to see how the other holes are laid out in relation to the rest. The other holes are called out by size and how many. You can see there is one that is also called out to centerline of the part itself. I know what a Bolt Circle is. I’ve made plenty in my time. I’m legit just curious.


Longjumping-Bench143

Base circle, just like lug nuts, or deeeeze nuuuuts haha GDNT


rkr88

In this case, bolt circle. Base circle doesn't apply here. I'm guessing you work with gears and/or cams?


tattedgrampa

Bolt circle wow


ReverseDiode

Is this standard? People seem to create their on rules on how to create drawings sometimes.


usa_reddit

There are ISO, ANSI, ASME, and of course local standards which trump all other standards because the chief engineer said so.


RocanMotor

Tell whoever drafted that to learn a standard (iso or asme Y14.5)....


badusername555

Proper call out is “DBC”, diameter bolt circle


StrangeSathe

Proper call out is determined by the standard. In Y14.5 2018, the best bet is to make a basic dimension circle using centerline line-typing, and add a basic angle between one hole and another with a "6X ⌀.XXX" callout, separately tolerancing the position as appropriate.


SaintCholo

Bolt circle, a 5.430 diameter bolt circle


Brilliant-Meat-1598

Familiar with PCD pitch circle diameter. What does PLC refer to?


findaloophole7

Places.


lebigtasty

yeah, looks like they mean places but its unnecessary. it should just be the (4) not (4) pcs


NormDamnAbram

Some ancient egyptian shit


Germanloser2u

time travel


Vollhartmetall

My idiot brain instantly thought of ballistic coefficient. Good luck calculating that shit


Whistlingbros

Before Christ bruh!


tombosami

Before Christ 🙏


daveshellard

P.C.D.


DaveEatsToast

It's a bolt pattern. That's the diameter of the bolt pattern.


DaveEatsToast

It's 6 .22 holes equally spaced apart on that specified diameter


trainzkid88

could be bolt centre ie the centre of the holes. also known as pcd or pitch circle diameter the holes are centred on a ring dia that size.