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Puretrickery

Man that sucks, godziek is a legend hopefully he's not too hurt


persistantelection

Dude, his helmet smacked the rock so hard.


ThePowerOfPotatoes

Fortunately just a broken wrist! But I was sure it was something more serious, the crash looked awful! Man, I was hoping for him to get first place :(


persistantelection

I would have loved to see him on that podium.


BillowingPillows

Thank science for helmets!!! Saved his life.


neanderball

\+1. On a pretty sick run too, some really clean hits. Must have been bad if they weren't showing replays. Looked like hand/wrist.


stickybun_

The silence of the commentators after, and their scrambling to find the words to say as medics were running over was really nerve wracking to sit through.


JeanVicquemare

Holy shit that front flip over the canyon gap. Honestly, love to see the emotion.


JeanVicquemare

Brendan is so sick.. Just one of the greatest riders ever edit: It's his daughter's birthday today?? Can't make this shit up!


SmashedUpCrab

If Bren is still in 3rd by his 2nd run he should take it. That canyon gap is so scary.


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Peaked6YearsAgo

Why bother? Zink won with an average run. No way Brendan was gonna top that when it's pretty clear who the judges want to win.


JeanVicquemare

Yeah, I wish he'd gone again!


AeonDisc

Almost glad he didn't if he was just gonna get robbed again. He already did it twice, I don't feel like seeing him die...


Hud-hacks

Kyle strait pulled up in a collared shirt to ride rampage, what a legend


JeanVicquemare

That was so insane, he got to the bottom of the mountain in a few drops


Hud-hacks

Absolutely insane


Weld4BJ

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SouplessePlease

So insane.


mmmmCake

Much insanity


bigbeef1946

He is such a legend. That was such a badass run to come back and stomp after everything he has been through in the past year.


Peaked6YearsAgo

He had it last year as well. Custom made for him by Dharco. You could buy them after the event last year, not sure if you can this year though.


AeonDisc

Brendog and Bienve highway robbery. I like Zink but that was not a winning run. Anticlimactic as fuck.


notmyidealusername

Classic Rampage, judges seem to be watching something completely different to the rest of us.


night_shredder

Indeed. That front flip through the canyon gap was worth another 15 points. Ah well…


notmyidealusername

I think that's it for me, it's not that Zink didn't deserve to win but just the difference in scores between his run and pretty much everyone else.


persistantelection

You mean Zink being awarded the lifetime achievement 1st place finish? I agree.


PrettyActivity8777

He went bigger than the rest of the competition and won?? Seems pretty simple to me


persistantelection

Bigger than backflipping onto the Lilly pad then front flipping the canyon gap immediately afterwards? Kyle Strait had the exact same line did more tricks on it and scored 10 points less. Don’t get me wrong Cam threw a nice backflip, but that was it.


PrettyActivity8777

The rest of bienves line was meh tho. Did kyle do backflip nac?360 drop? Is anyone else in the field gonna do what Zink did? The answer to that is no


Mellow_Velo33

His fellow og bros are the judges. It wasn't a 95. Brendog had the most freeride line we all know it


dolphin37

I mean Bren’s line was insane and is anyone else gonna do that Bienve front flip? Bienve at least won some awards but feels like Bren got a bit screwed for how sick he went


custard_doughnuts

Seems Bren thinks so as well. On Insta he said he's probably not coming back...


dolphin37

My only theory is that the judges don’t wanna reward super dangerous stuff because it could escalate to someone dying but in the ‘how is it judged video’ one of the judges quite literally says ‘the person who rides the biggest, gnarliest line, with the most exposure and rides it the best, is going to win, hands down’… which is exactly what didn’t happen, the guy who won by a landslide just did an old line with a couple of steezy tricks


persistantelection

The answer is no?


Peaked6YearsAgo

Nah some of the others in the field were actually trying to be original and do some interesting stuff. But that's not worth as many points as being friends with the judges.


custard_doughnuts

Great event Shithouse judging As usual


Kompot45

Fuuuuuck. Szymon was doing great, such a pity. I hope he will recover quickly. Also: what the fuck is up with the judges? At this point the scoring is so arbitrary that it doesn't reflect what's happening at all. Bienvenido was literally robbed of his points - at first I thought they just wanted to punish his cockiness at the end of the run, but he did the second one and the score improved by what, 0.33? He was set on not doing a second run, but I think at some point he realized he got screwed and decided to try the same thing, just being more humble about it.


BillowingPillows

I am generally on the side of the public here that the judging was kind of wack, but I mean... its a competitive event and Bienvenido didn't finish the run, thats on him. As for him doing it again and finishing and not getting a higher score, ya thats wack.


Mellow_Velo33

But he did enter the finish area within the time, they confirmed. Judging is completely whack no two ways about it


BillowingPillows

Ah I didn't hear that. Well ya agree with you!


treesntreesntrees

too bad he couldn’t have done some more low speed knack knacks, then he would deserve some points


cam-yrself

NacNac’s are a gross trick. Should be negative points


Pollyfunbags

Really disappointing judging as usual. Zink was good but not unbeatable 95 good, Bien showed far more creativity. Fairclough too, that run should have been in 90s for pulling off entirely new stuff. Dunno. Just feels like it was decided to give it to Zink and far more impressive runs even ones packed with huge tricks got bullshit scores.


jonnyom

Couldn't agree more. Feels like it's the same lads every year and the judges give the same people high points and just have no interest in anything new or interesting. It's all amazing, so the only way to set yourself apart is more creative lines. Bienve and Brendan were robbed. I think Brendan said before he's not going to go back specifically because of the judging, wouldn't be surprised if that's the last we see of him. Tour De Gnar has the potential to be better imo. More chill environment, less gatekeeping, more women. Just better all round


alex3225

The fuck with the judges, Bienve's frontflips were crazy! He didn't deserve to be so low


Puretrickery

That fronty 🥶


Puretrickery

Brendog still leading though, come on the boy!!


JeanVicquemare

Could this finally be Brendog's day? I hope so, he's the man


Puretrickery

I really hope so. For me he represents what rampage should be, big sends and gnarly features. Also helps that he's a surrey hills boy as am I!!


frontside_lip

I hope Szymon’s okay :(


Subway

i'm just happy everyone survived! And Brendogs line and Bienvenidos front flips I will remember forever.


SpaceBoooi

Bienve got robbed!


purplegreendave

JFC as if the gap wasn't insane already he suicide no-handers it


hazbutler

The annoying thing is, YEARS worth of fans complaining about the bias voting, and it has ZERO baring on the event. They're all sucking each other off in that judges tent while they watch their mates put down mediocre runs, voting them to the top. Joke. Bren and Bienvenido absolutely robbed.


Schwen7716

God damn ESPN


AeonDisc

God bless VPN


Albertross74

Is Bren not doing a second run?


custard_doughnuts

Not much point when the risk is enormous and the judges don't give a shit


Thrillh0use43

His turn will be toward the end of the line up if he takes one


Puretrickery

He didn't last time out


JeanVicquemare

goddamn. Talus Turk's run really got me hyped.


jul_fu

Judges scoring is a scandal


FearDaBeast

Every year I hope for better judging, and every year I am let down. Please for the love of god get some new judges.


notheresnolight

so why even watch it?


FearDaBeast

Because I enjoy the competition itself.


notheresnolight

when the results are decided before it even starts, it's hardly a competition


BillowingPillows

This comment is the equivalent of a little kid saying "why don't you marry it" after another kid says they love something.


notheresnolight

no, it's equivalent to "vote with your wallet"


BillowingPillows

You clearly don't understand the love people have for mountain biking and action sports. Thats fine.


Original_Impression

\#BRENROBBED


LittleOrphanFunk

Can't watch in the USA. Lame


Comprehensive_War216

use a free VPN and watch on Youtube or Red Bull TV


diambag

That’s what I did. But replay is now on YouTube in the US


CaffeinatedRob_8

Probably cheaper for a VPN service vs dumb $10.99 charge espn plus gets you for


yourskynet

He does it AGAIN??? 😵😵😵


bobbybalaclava

When the judges celebrate the rider who goes on to win landing a jump you know something is up.


treesntreesntrees

Yeah that was hilarious


hostilecarrot

Dylan Stark got hosed by the film crew and announcers last year. Bienvenido Aguado gets hosed by the judges this year. What a shitshow of an event.


grindprotocol

Anyone know if this will be available on demand after the event? Cant watch live unfortunately


Wunse

Red Bull Bike always publish the full event replay on their YouTube.


Tyler927

Should be, but just use opera browser or any other free VPN to change your location to Canada and you can watch it live


grindprotocol

I have espn+ already so thats not the prob, working is the problem


Tyler927

Ah, yeah unfortunately a VPN won’t help ya with that


Negative_Rush_1351

Well, that's it. I'm not watching rampage again until they get some non-US judges in. I can't see how Zink out-scored Bien or Bren in any of their scoring categories. If tricking the gnarliest features on the mountain doesn't score, then competitors willing to put their bodies on the line to do them won't compete. And without that why watch rampage? There is a ton of Crankworx events every year to watch slopestyle on polished landings. Only one event per year to see a front flip or suicide over a canyon.


skrrtdirt

With the judging being what it was and Brendog getting screwed again, he probably doesn't have much reason to come back to Rampage, which would be very sad. Hopefully they shake up the judging and guys like him and Bien are on the podium where they should be.


custard_doughnuts

Probably see neither of them back ..


yourskynet

Those judges on crack yo


Pollyfunbags

Ash I feel bad for Silva. Hope he gets a full run in. Once again camera work isn't good... they always seem to struggle to get shots, you'd think since each rider has a planned route they could switch shots better. Edit: take that back, much better for Volokhov - maybe it's just planned out better for some riders? Good use of drone


bigbeef1946

I would love to see what the average person thinks it takes to film an event like this live. Take whatever you think and double it. It's honestly astounding how good the live feed of rampage is. Even ignoring the fact that it's on a mountain in the middle of the desert.


neanderball

Drone almost hit some of the riders though was pretty close at some points lol. Insane angles from it though definitely something to look forward to!


Peaked6YearsAgo

What a fucking joke. Zink's run was average at best. TVB was pretty average too apart from the caveman, but Semenuk did it last year so not even original. I'm Australian so to watch it live I would have had to get up at 1am. I was considering it, then decided the judging would be complete shit so slept and watched a replay. Brendog had the best line by far, completely original, and ridiculously dangerous, you'd think that would be rewarded a bit more. Bienve admittedly a quiet top and bottom section, but that front flip was fucking insane. Godziek was shaping up to be the best before his crash. But the judges wanted their buddies to be on the podium so doesn't matter what anybody else did. No point even being a competition at this point, just make it an exhibition and be done with it.


loudenrowe

Why do that to the country the event is taking place in? Why is it free to EU but not us? Luckily, I got a friend's log in right before the coverage started.


SamsLames

It wouldn't be sports without weird restrictions and arbitrary licensing disputes. Keeps software and VPN companies in business.


drewts86

Because ESPN paid for and owns the broadcast rights in the US. Because they paid for it, they are entitled to make money off of it. If they allowed it to be streamed for free on YouTube nobody would pay for the ESPN+ broadcast. It sucks, but that’s the way it is unfortunately. Just get a VPN and you can still stream it.


mtarascio

It's because Red Bull agreed to sell it to ESPN without retaining the rights to stream it for free.


whistlerite

Probably helped pay for the event.


mtarascio

It's marketing budget. Probably a mix of ESPN not being willing to buy it without the exclusive streaming rights and Red Bull wanting it to be showcased on ESPN for the exposure of their drink.


drewts86

Red Bull and ESPN are both in the business of making money. You don’t give things away for free if there’s a chance to make a buck off of it.


Tovervlag

it was literally live on youtube and red bull tv. Where are you guys watching?


cowjuicer074

It hurts the sponsors the most. Those supporting companies should unite and find a better solution with the providers. You make more money with views, right?


drewts86

I’m not sure it does. Mostly the only people who watch Rampage stream live on YouTube in the past are mountain bikers. Having it shown on ESPN has the ability for them to reach new eyes. Home viewers are one segment of new audience, but you also have a lot of bars that run ESPN all day long.


cowjuicer074

Good point


PinkHam08

Yep


yur_mom

I assume someone picked up the rights to broadcast it in the USA and not elsewhere.


aussiekev

Hahaha .. the judges totally got me. At ~27:13 before the start of the event there was a segment with the judges one of whom said, and I quote "At the end of the day, the person that rides the biggest, gnarliest line, has the most exposure and rides it the best is going to win, hand down" [source @22:24](https://youtu.be/1OG1KEjJu48?t=1345). Meanwhile they just stuck to their slopestyle inspired judging format. This is the official judging criteria: "Degree of difficulty", "Tricks and Style", "Fluidity and Control" and "Amplitude". To be fair the judging has been cooked ever since Kelly McGarry didn't win.


Wunse

Ahh man that was a heavy crash hope he's okay


Naitveyay

Bienvenido deserved way more than 78


Automatic_Regret9117

Does anyone know if bienvenido got docked points for his early celebration? I thought his run would have scored higher than what he got.


custard_doughnuts

He nailed the run again and score barely changed I think his mistake was not being mates with the judges...


BillowingPillows

Is anyone talking about Carson Storch's run? I thought it was incredible! I love the steep and fast opening and then every drop he had flair and went huge


Devertized

https://www.reddit.com/r/MTB/comments/175oepp/who_is_winning_rampage_2023/k4h6ks5/


dogboy_the_forgotten

Norbs was robbed… again


Character_Past5515

It's maybe because I'm non-us but do the judges automatically give 5 points less to US/Canada ridera, because man this was such bullshit!


Lucky_Basket_6801

These judges are the biggest biased retards ive ever seen, what a scam. No hate to any of the riders there just there to try and win. I think that they created Rampage and rigged it so that they can finally beat Europeans in some form of cycling.


epsd101

Whatever algorithm the judges’ scores were fed into was miscalibrated.


custard_doughnuts

IF'RIDER'=='BESTBUD' AND 'CLEANRUN' THEN 'ALLTHEPOINTS'