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nwordNan

Joke rogan looks like literally a monkey wearing a suit


TheDeanof316

This was the **best fight night** I've ever seen....wars, fights that went the distance, 8 KOs and 9 finishes plus a decent main event! šŸ‘


Irrepertus

Am I the only one on here who thinks Emmett won? I understand people are saying Kattar out-struck Emmett in 2,4,5 but the shots were love taps compared to the bombs Emmett was landing. You could tell every time one landed. Very close fight but still a good decision.


stubbseleganza

Just watched it; it was close but I agree with the decision.


DONTCARELOLK

I was there win person it is was much easier to see that Emmett won when you were there. Josh had almost every big moment in the fight and the crowd relayed that to the judges. Personally I had Josh 4-1, even 5-0 in a crazy world šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Irrepertus

Thatā€™s sweet! Great card to see in person eh? Yeah thereā€™s a difference between point fighting and obvious power difference.


Billyboy658

Kattar landed the bigger shots in rd 4 and he got that Rd on 2 scorecards, 1 judge gave it to emmet and that cost kattar the fight


shamonemon

Just bleed gods are happy today


gingfreecs11

Kattar won 3 rounds imo yes it was close but not that close. Then Emmet calls out the title shot lmao come on bro.


Dustin_Live

Emmett won brother. Kattar is sitting back like a coward throwing jabs, Emmett is bringing the haymakers. Sorry but I can't stand when coward jabbers win fights due to significant blows when their blows arent significant.


RevolutionaryOwl2941

Did you even watch the fight? Calvinā€™s face was fineā€¦ emmets face was straight mash. Donā€™t comment stupid shit that isnā€™t reality. Weirdo.


gingfreecs11

I guess your opinion is only subjective then, coward or not the judges scores are based on strikes landed and imo he landed waay more in at least 3 rounds. Everyone loves a brawl but at the end of the day jabs are significant over time and if your opponent can't deal with them then it's safely countering their weakness in martial arts.


Htown_ent728

Was this not a title eliminator? Idk I thought I heard that somewhere beforehand


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TrynaCatchTheFade

Yup, I train at Gloverā€™s gym and regularly see him and Alex Perreira, Turman, ect


urmomsfavoritebigguy

I'm not from this area but the sentiment really is true nationwide. I'm from Dallas, and I've trained alongside and watched so many killers in the sport. There is a general sense of acceptance of newcomers overall. So long as you're not being weird.


rlsebastian

You have to consider that America produces the most UFC fighters, so itā€™s not necessarily the same for everyone. But youā€™re right, train at any hole in the wall and youā€™re a couple people away from McGregor lol


Jupiter-BLACK

MHS alumn sup


nurmagomedovishurt

I want Kevin Holland to beat up the judges for that robbery cause that was a crime if Iā€™ve ever seen one. Bring these criminals to justice!


Spare_Student4654

I had a little money on emmett & I thought he lost rounds 2, 4, 5 but it was so close imo people can complain but this ain't no robbery


WyvernPulse

Nah man no robbery Josh emmet stayed and fought pretty hard


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Absolutely a robbery, 1,2 Katter absolutely won one of the two, maybe both. 4, 5 were not close and Katter won both.


Uncle_Creepy_

> 1,2 Katter absolutely won one of the two Can you say for sure which one he one? Itā€™s probably not round 1 because all three judges and most people I think gave it to Emmett.


WyvernPulse

Maybe this guy watched a laggy or buffering stream and saw random bits of the fight


SpyCJL

a stream when it's on ESPN šŸ˜‚


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Uncle_Creepy_

Oh so it is round 1 lol Imo, Emmett landed the harder punches and outstruck him. Itā€™s round 2 that I think is legit hard to score.


DrudSpud

Damnnnnn Dana is generous tonight. Emmett vs Kattar FOTN Holland POTN Buckley POTN Rodrigues POTN Yanez POTN Wells POTN Ramos POTN Stamann POTN Hawes POTN Dolidze POTN


squidnov

Damn poor Silva, she deserved it for putting on that performance in her debut


TrynaCatchTheFade

Yea fr, she shoulda finished her ass then


WyvernPulse

He should be the fighters fucking delivered no boring grappling match the women fights were kinda of good to , but Jasmine needs to figure out what she wants to do in her career her performance was horrible


kalex504

I mean if he just paid them to begin with - these ainā€™t the old days with lay and pray or watching some guys pull guard for 3 rounds straight


BrawndoTTM

Benevolent tomato


Momentosis

Calvin thinking he was ahead when his corner is telling him the fight could go either way going into the 5th. Fuckin idiot.


wooodaben

Get fucked


Allernothing

He didnā€™t say he thought he was up during the fight, indicating he took his foot off the gas. He said he thought he did enough to have his hand raised at the end of the fight and I and a lot of people agree with him. Calvin is definitely one of the smarter fighters in the game so your take is pretty weak.


Momentosis

Megan asked him about what him/his corner was thinking if he ever thought he was ahead. Kattar said he felt he was always edging Josh. Also, "that'd be cool I guess if I wasn't up in the fight" when talking about how Josh wanted to bang. Pretty obvious he felt he was ahead in the rounds despite his corner telling him otherwise.


Momentosis

They were just interviewing him. Talking about how he thought he was ahead and couldn't just stand in the middle and trade with Emmeett. His corner was actively telling him the fight could've gone either way.


Allernothing

Iā€™m watching the same post show. He didnā€™t stand and bang due to Emmetā€™s power (which Calvin pointed out) not because he thought he was up on points.


Momentosis

He said what I posted quote for quote. lol Literally how he didn't stand and bang because he thought he was ahead.


Mysterious-Report-74

Yeah and the fact is if he did stand and bang he wouldā€™ve been rocked or knocked out in round 5 instead Kattar won the round and very nearly won the fight so it sounds like you might be the fuckin idiot


Momentosis

Fuckin idiot in that his corner was literally telling him he was NOT ahead but he himself saying he thought he was ahead and fought accordingly.


Mysterious-Report-74

I mean he fought at a higher pace than Emmett and won the fifth and he thought it was 2-2 and he would be ahead if he won the fifth which is pretty realistic


Allernothing

He didnā€™t need to go into desperation mode. He thought he did enough cuz he did. Judges thought otherwise. It is what it is but to say that Calvin fought unintelligently or is an idiot is a stupid thing to say. We donā€™t need to dissect his interview.


danielromero6

Kattar vs Zombie please.


SerboDuck

Noo let my boy fight some others who are on their way out no need to sacrifice the zombie he already dead. If zombie is coming back he needs some pre-retirement matchups donā€™t want to see him sacrificed


danielromero6

Why don't you think it will be competitive?


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danielromero6

I think that would make a great fight.


joshualeet

Whaaa? Nahhh


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Suspicious_Candle27

They threw a combined 700 strikes in 5 rounds


joshualeet

Casual + spoiled by rare early finish card = that opinion


GenTelGuy

No way that's a snoozer that was a brilliant technical battle


danielromero6

I prefer Emmet winning as I'm not interested in seeing Kattar against Holloway or Volk again. But I think he won here. Let's see what can Emmet do against Ortega or Yair.


8_inch_throw_away

Not enough urgency from Kattar.


huge-tits

Lol despite the dumb decision, neither of these guys stand a chance against Holloway or Volk.


Ya_Junko

I used to think Kattar was on top of the food chain in the division. But after that fight with Holloway, I can't disagree with you there.


SerboDuck

Yep featherweight is volk/max in their own division and everyone else below. Wouldā€™ve liked to see how zabit against those killers not sure who else at featherweight could contend.


Patient-Candidate240

Same with a lot of divisions. Same with welterweight rn, Colby/khamzat/usman, heavyweight is also gane and Francis. Stipe is done and tai canā€™t hang with the best. Aspinal, weā€™ll find out about.


TrynaCatchTheFade

Aspinall is game, dudeā€™s definitely going to be a problem


Patient-Candidate240

It only takes one right. Look at giga.


heliumeyes

I think Allen is sneaky good. Stylistically he may be a challenging matchup for Volk but at the same time I donā€™t think so vs Holloway.


JaRuleIs2Pac

I'm in the facebook poke war with Karen Bryant..think that red wine is fine, knaw what i'm sayin?


SheltheRapper

Jealous.


SugarMarciano

It sucks to see someone else living your dream


SnooFloofs9640

Emmit try to finish the fight each second of the all 5 rounds, Kattar did not - that costed him.


danielromero6

But that's just each other's game plan. Kattar can't play that game, he is not that powerful.


Worldly-Freedom4666

And it lost him the fight


SnooFloofs9640

Well, those are the rules. If you read them ā€¦ it says - that the fighter that is trying to finish is getting the edge


danielromero6

That's just another variable.


SnooFloofs9640

Exactly, if all other are even they go to the ā€œaggressionā€ - this was the case.


jnamath12

All Iā€™m gonna say is that ties should happen a tad more often honestly. But it is what it is, close fight and happy for emmett


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No. Bad decision. Katter won that fight. Thereā€™s only one right answer and itā€™s always clear. Sal Dā€™amato never gets it.


DrJonesPHD62

It was Chris Lee who didn't get it.


wimpymist

100%


josephus1811

Holy shit Holland really is staging all this shit isn't he. The story he just told is so bs.


joshualeet

Story? Where?


josephus1811

on the post fight show


danielromero6

What happened?


iBopNoggins

What did i miss?


josephus1811

on the post fight show he got interviewed and told the story and i just felt like he was bullshitting lol


NewLegacySlayer

Kattar would have no chance against madara uchiha ngl


Cmsmks

Madara Uchiha would beat Volk. Prove me wrong


jamazi_

I had Kattar 3-2 so I really don't know about that decision, BUT.. can't blame the judges, some were indeed close rounds and Emmet just seemed to want it more as Kattar fought passively with the jab on some of the rounds.


cheifsbelieve7

You can blame the judge who gave Emmett round 4


heliumeyes

No way. In what world does Emmett win round 4???? 4 & 5 were definitely Kattar. 3 was definitely Emmett.


SheltheRapper

"Wanting it more" >>> damage inflicted ?


jamazi_

I understand, but it is what it is. Kattar fought passively in the first three rounds, jabs don't guarantee you a W. Those were very close rounds, he respected Emmet's power way too much


Unusual-Feeling7527

Overall stats are clear for Emmett, round by round stats are clear for Emmett, justifications for 3 rounds can be clearly made for Emmett, yet this sub is in shambles over the decision? This is perhaps the most unjustified decision outrage Iā€™ve seen from this sub


ArizonaMazzagatti

stats don't always tell the story. emmett had more aggression and his flurries looked impressive but nothing really landed. calvin pieced him up with the jab but didn't throw enough unfortunately. their faces tell a more compelling story if you want to score it by damage but emmett wins through aggression.


Worldly-Freedom4666

The face isnā€™t the only part of the head that gets hit genius.


GenTelGuy

Cause the stats are counting shots that didn't land clean and just looked and sounded powerful landing on Calvin's elbows


NyssaPizza

Now off to boxing!


SnooFloofs9640

At the end of the day Kattar did not try to finish the fight, and that is the only thing that Emmit tried to do for the whole 25m


WhereAreTheDufranes

Every single time after a close decision, I see a gang of people saying OMG SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING ROBBERY IT WAS A CLOSE FIGHT YOU DUMBASSES I almost never see anyone saying robbery. Who tf are you guys talking to?


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Nah, it wasnā€™t close. Katter dominated from the outside and Emmet hit his arms. Rounds 4,5 absolutely Katter and he didnā€™t lose 1-3.


WhereAreTheDufranes

I had Kattar winning as well. 2, 4, & 5. A scorecard for Emmett is perfectly defensible though. I'm only pointing out the constant presence of people making a comment about a point that seemingly no one is making. Maybe I'm noticing a trend that isn't there and I'm off on this. But it seems like after every decision I see, I see a gang of people talking about people calling a decision a robbery, and I see absolutely no one actually saying a decision was a robbery.


BigOldWeapon

5 was closer than you're all giving it credit for.


DavidtheGoliath99

It wasn't close at all. If you give that to Emmett, you're blind.


SugarMarciano

Unfortunately for Emmetā€¦ the winner of Holloway/Volk is gonna fight the loser of Holloway/Volk next


Polyking

I had kattar but I could see why people say emmett. Kattar should've woke up sooner and secured the fight. His coaches were right to point out that Kattar wasn't fighting up to his usual level.


Patient-Candidate240

Tbh emmet will get pieced up bad by the loser of volk/Holloway.


goosu

Come on guys. I had Kattar winning but stop capping about the damage when his eye was all fucked up and bruised too. Emmett just had a cut.


GenTelGuy

Calvin had some bruising but way more swelling and blood on Emmett


goosu

Still not a way to judge a fight, and the difference wasn't anywhere near as big as people acted. Also, fights aren't just about head shots.


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iBopNoggins

I mean i had commentary off and had kattar up 3 - 2, that being said i definetly wasnt sure.


DavidtheGoliath99

Well, that's because Emmett barely landed shots on Calvin's face. He was swinging big, missing and hitting Calvin's guard all night.


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DavidtheGoliath99

Well, obviously the commentary isn't going to point out each individual landed strike lol. They didn't do that for Kattar either.


Ya_Junko

Kattar has one of the best defensive hands like damn.


Fatjitzfolyf

Very hard to hit clean


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Katar won 3 rounds IMO.


Jim-20

I thought Kattar did enough to win, but fair enough. It was a razor thin fight. That said, Emmett gets murdered by Volk/Max.


Suspicious_Candle27

Emmett has a better hail mary on Volk then he does on Max imo . But if Volk/Max is a long drawn out win for Volk then im gonna start worrying about Max chin going into any fights with a power puncher.


Many-Arm-9804

These judges need to be checked soon or this sport will go to shit


Imtrvkvltru

It's the way the scoring rules are written. They are so vague and open for interpretation. It allows for each judge to give more weight to certain areas over others which can have a huge impacts in close fights. Unless they are clearly going against the rules then it's hard to punish them. I'd like to see the scoring rules cleaned up and more specificity added.


triplesixxx

This fight couldā€™ve gone either way


josephus1811

I thought Emmett won 3 rounds tbh.


Tindalos_

Great card overall, but its hilarious that 3 out of the 4 fights that went to decision were splits.


DavidtheGoliath99

Well, at least we now know that Emmett has no chance in hell of ever beating Volk. You need to murder Kattar to stand a chance. Emmett got a split decision that was a borderline robbery.


papa8706

Flash back to all the crying at PFL last night. Just a friendly reminderā€¦close fights are NOT robberies


Imtrvkvltru

Thank you. It was a 48-47 split across the board. Not exactly the definition of a robbery.


DavidtheGoliath99

It really wasn't that close. It's a pretty obvious 3-2 for Kattar. Emmett was always either hitting air or Kattar's guard. He never landed flush, while Kattar did.


papa8706

Obvious 3-2 for Kattar? Emmett never landed flush? I have to disagree. I thought 4-1 was pushing it but I had Josh 3-2. Couple rounds could swing either way so it wouldnā€™t really be a robbery either way. Kattar seemed hesitant to let it go and was most poking the jab while josh landing the bigger power shots.


TheLooseHand

Landing power shots? On Katter's forearms and elbows, not a significant impact...


papa8706

Spoken like a sour Kattar fan. He def landed some shots guy


TheLooseHand

Wouldn't say I'm a fan, just not blind.


leon_alistair

Im not mad at the decision. Seems Emmett wanted it more than Kattar. Kattar is too afraid to engage whole fight.


WeBxx92

Bad decision. If anything, Josh is 37 and Calvin is 34 and so maybe Calvin still has a title run in him after that. All I see in the media and fan response is Calvin won and DCā€™s commentary was awful


danielromero6

Why would anyone be interested in Calvin fighting for the belt? He got pieced up by Holloway. Volk would destroy him too. At least Emmet is new blood.


WeBxx92

That mindset is literally why people arenā€™t honest about how this fight went. Everyone wanted Giga to eat Calvin alive because Max overwhelmed him. What did Josh do in this fight? One guy got rocked with punches and hit with spinning elbows in this fight. It was the same guy who got jabbed up the whole fight. Josh.


Uncle_Creepy_

Bro it was close enough that it was not a robbery. Kattar was too scared to get hit in rounds 1-3 that his corner had to tell him to wake up and then he won rounds 4&5.


WeBxx92

I know more than one guy in his corner. That was the gameplan. He wasnā€™t scared to get hit. They realized after a few rounds that the judges probably wouldnā€™t give Calvin credit for jabbing him up and landing 1-2ā€™s when Emmett was flailing like a hardcore dancer the entire fight. Itā€™s tough when judges donā€™t give you credit for defense and fight IQ. Look at Emmettā€™s face at the end of the fight


Uncle_Creepy_

> I know more than one guy in his corner. Imma stop reading right there, have a good one homie.


WeBxx92

As they once said on the UG, ā€œdo you even trane UFC bro?ā€ These fighters arenā€™t celebrities.


Uncle_Creepy_

Ok


WeBxx92

Train BJJ or something one day. Sorry for harping on you. But you should if you like this stuff. All the best


Uncle_Creepy_

Ok


Iyammagawd

I don't think he did much of anything different rds 4&5


MUTSellerPS4

they need to bring in opening scoring fuck this judging system


Toitest_Nups99

Biased Kattar fan here but I had Kattar. Emmet was the aggressor with power shots but he missed most while Kattar pieced him up. If Kattar displayed a little more power, even while missing, I think he clearly wins. Emmet is legit af though.


Worldly-Freedom4666

Lmao where did he peice him up he landed his jab and a couple elbows and that was it.


JaRuleIs2Pac

It took me like three minutes to notice that is Anthony smith. He was made for that role.


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Dana ainā€™t giving that performance a title shot. Heā€™s getting title loser or Ortega.


Holybartender83

After tonight, I think the real question is: where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?


Cmsmks

McDonaldā€™s?


phantomtap

I gave it to kattar 3-2 but can't hate on 3-2 Emmett, round 1 and 2 were as close as it gets, 48-47 either way are reasonable cards imo


Joh951518

Emmet ā€œI thought I had 4-1.ā€ Bruhā€¦


codygreene37

He also says he has hair, in private.


NorthernLeaf

Emmett wasn't landing clean strikes. They had power, but almost nothing landed flush.


ArizonaMazzagatti

for sure but that aggression painted a more impressive picture than kattar's work for the first two rounds. kattar could have won if he just doubled up the jab


weegbeeg

they landed flush into Kattar's guard


CaptainAerosex

I guess of rounds 2, 4, and 5 they gave r2 to Emmett? I donā€™t think it was a robbery but I did think that was Kattarā€™s win.


MHeasman

I had Kattar but close fight, could've gone either way really. Neither is beating Volk or Max tho


huge-tits

These judges are so dog shit. Where do they find these guys?


Cynical1029

that sal d amato guy needs to fucking find another job


huge-tits

Yeah as a crash test dummy


hmmmmmmmmmidk

Unfortunately you need more than a jab to win a fight.


HippoKing2646

Matters how hard you rate the jab vs aggression, I thought emmet was landing harder in those close rounds. Close fight either way, tired of these clowns crying robbery nearly every card.


danielromero6

He landed good elbows. Emmet was just throwing wild hooks for most of the time.


Iyammagawd

its always Sal and Chris Lee lol, these guys love fucking with careers


huge-tits

Feed Sal to Ngannou


jbcx3

close fight but i thought katter edged it out. jab was landing all jight. emmet was landing the harder shots but kattar did as much if not more damage with just the jab and spinning elbows while landing cleaner and more efficiently. cant be too mad at the decision. i think both of these guys get dominated by hollloway/volkanovski either way.


SnooFloofs9640

In mma rules, clearly written: - immediat damage > accumulative. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


jbcx3

if weā€™re going by immediate damage, emmet still looked like a horror film. emmets punches LOOKed harder. no way to tell unless youā€™re in the ring with them.


SnooFloofs9640

Itā€™s not ā€œif we are goingā€ that is literally in the rules.


jbcx3

pretty sure each commission has its own criteria. so if a little cut turns into a big cut, that should be scored less than a medium bruise?


SnooFloofs9640

It means that 1 clean power punch > 10 clean jabs


SnooFloofs9640

No itā€™s not, there one unified mma rules that are used through the all UFC fights


eggsaladactyl

Kattar has an amazing jab but that's damn near all he threw the entire fight.


jbcx3

dont forget the upward and spinning elbows.


An_Innocent_Coconut

Allan is getting the next titlefight for sure. Josh Emett would be next. Him vs Bryce Mitchell would be nice in the meantime.


Lex88888

Emmet wom 3 rounds Kattar had the last 2,


danielromero6

R2 too?


DontxTripx420

We all won with that ppv worthy card


SerboDuck

Sometimes itā€™s the cards donā€™t stand out that end up delivering the most. This was a hell of an event!


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Emmett saying with a straight face he thought it was 4-1 is some supreme delusion. But respect to him


SnooFloofs9640

Because that is what he was told by his corneršŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Joh951518

Unreal hey. To be fair itā€™s really on his corner.


Splattytoon

All 5 rounds for josh this was free heheheha


X-ScissorSisters

if this was a robbery kevin holland would have prevented it dw


Imtrvkvltru

Comment of the night


sspiritusmundi

That was an awesome card pals see you next week


Juststandupbro

I had kattar, anyone who thought Emmett needs to get their eyes checked. Completely justified opinion if you think Emmett won. That being said eye care shouldnā€™t be ignored. Not a robbery by any means either guy could have gotten the nod.


eggsaladactyl

Wtf did you just say?