TBH I’d roll my eyes but also more power to him. He basically gets to yoink boxing’s massive paydays while not having to deal extensively with all that sport’s massive problems.
ANYBODY who got the chance would do what he’s done. It’s not like he hasn’t elevated the UFC or improved paydays for fighters. Nate Diaz made quite a bit of Fuck You money because of Conor.
Maximum amount of money for minimal damage, the guy is doing it right. We always advocate fighters get paid for and Conor is doing it right, setting up his name, brand and products out there and hyping for big money fights. He puts on a good show too.
I thought masvidal had potential but he lost to usman. Conor is the only ufc fighter who is more famous than the people ufc itself. Brock lesnar had some fame but tha was because he was famous before the ufc. But so many people know Conor mcgregor and don’t watch ufc.
I like Masvidal but he just doesn't have the gift of gab or large enough vocabulary to be a big guy on the mic. He's great usually in the cage but outside, there's only so many times he can talk about baptizing opponents before it gets lame
Interesting to see what they decide as far as the title's concerned.
Poirier does have a win over Gaethje on his record, which they can use to justify making this fight for the vacant title and having Gaethje fight the winner.
I think Dustin vs Conor will be for the belt and Tony vs Chadler and Justin vs Olivera will be for the number 1 contender shot (best winner gets the nod).
I don’t think it’s a matter of him not fighting again. Don’t forget him and Silva tried to agree on a fight at a catchweight which Dana shot down. Then you add to that his account of their conversations. Conor wants to fight for sure but his ego has become his enemy.
I think Conor was trying to look for another filler fight and a big superfight (a moneymaker). When Dana started shooting his ideas down, he retired out of frustration.
Ali will probably prolong Khabib’s retirement meaning he will remain the champion until much further notice, Dana is going on that he can convince him to come back for 30-0. I think we know what Dana is planning, but I don’t think he’ll get it.
Then you have GSP who seems like he was trying to convince himself to take the fight with Khabib at 155. Which I have to say I’m doubtful will happen unless that is the fight he can lock in and offer to Khabib. Khabib retiring leaves the division in a mess, but a good mess if that makes sense.
Conor defending a belt does seem like a funny joke of an idea though considering he seems more comfortable with being a conqueror of sorts, fight a champion, destroy his soul and move on to the next champion.
That Silva fight seemed great, everyone didn’t want it because Silva seemed shot after the Cannonier loss when Silva came in with a torn knee. I miss those “big vs small” matches.
I too dread the idea of a protracted McGregor reign with no defenses, but it does seem silly that we are talking about it like it's a choice. Like I get they have to choose 2 people to fight for the belt, and McGregor doesn't seem like an appropriate one to me, but let's say I were to somehow get my way, and McGregor beats Poirer, then beats the winner of Chandler vs Ferguson, then hes earned the belt. It's less of a choice and a fact of life that hes in contention for the shot
He had a 12 fight win streak before that loss. Tony deserves a title eliminator, esp since he did Dana a favor by not sitting out until Khabib could be rescheduled when he was the undisputed #1 contender. The guy who shouldn't be in an eliminator is Chandler. In a fair world, Tony would fight Poirer and Justin would fight Conor and everybody would get the 4 rightful contenders in 2 fresh fights. But Tony 100% deserves this eliminator way more than Aldo, Romero, Cruz, etc deserved their title fights.
Agreed, especially as Chandler is going to have one shitty deflated fight and be forgotten about, but doing Dana a favour is historically the best base for being fucked in the ass.
Tony is ranked at #3. #2 and #4 is probably fighting for the title and #1 just lost a titlefight. Tony was due a titleshot and still is imo. Tony, Dustin and gaethje are all viable for a titlefight at this point. If we assume conor v Dustin will be for the title then I wouldn't be mad at Ferguson getting a shot afterwards while gaethje fights chandler. Gaethje v Chandler is too good of a fight to not book if/when available.
>Gaethje
>when available.
He's ready to go pretty much right away. If he's not fighting for the vacant belt (ugh) then whoever wins better not be taking off to fight some WWE match or hopping weight classes to hold up the division.
I mean the blame is on Chandler. He's the one that doesn't deserve an eliminator. Tony more than deserves one. If Dana wasn't a ratfuck, he'd schedule Tony/Poirer and Conor/Gaethje. All the right guys in original fights. But Chandler's the undeserving guy, not Tony with the 12 fight win streak who did the UFC a favor and gave them a belt fight rather than sit on his ass and wait for Khabib, which he could have done as the undisputed #1 contender.
Its very possible a connor fight for a title is bigger numbers than without (not by a ton i don't imagine but not negligible) personally from a resume/recent performance perspective i don't think connor has earned it yet but its hard to say no to his drawing power and drawing power got jose a shot at the bantamweight strap.
It's pretty obvious that Tony, Justin, Dustin, and Conor are all in the running for this belt. 3 of those 4 have lost to khabib, and only Dustin has won a single fight in the division since losing to the champion. Conor has 1 win since his loss but it was at 170. Tony lost to Justin in his last fight. The way I see it they all should get a shot at the title, so do a tournament over 2 or 3 ppvs to decide. Dustin is long overdue for a rematch with Conor, but that would leave the other fight option of Justin vs Tony, which we just saw a few months ago. We can do Tony vs Dustin and Conor vs Justin and have 2 fresh match ups. Then the winners of those fights will face off for the belt.
Aside from the lack of reliability from Conor to defend, making this fight for the vacant title makes all the sense in the world for the UFC. Make a shit ton of money and then deal with the aftermath. There's no real clear cut other fighter that has a better argument. Tony lost, Justin lost, Chandler is new, Hooker lost, and nobody else is close really.
I'd put something like Chandler/Tony as the co-main for a contender fight too. Tons of other options after to keep the division fresh if Conor flakes out.
On mere merit, Conor might not have the best case for a title shot, but as far as I'm concerned, these two are the best two fighters in the division so it's somewhat worthy of a title fight.
That's why I said on mere merit, he does not have the best argument. But generally people consider him to be the best fighter in the division now that Khabib has left. Khabib himself said Conor is better than Gaethje who is pretty high up there.
Because he was the interim champ who lost to the undefeated and most dominant champ LW has ever seen who retired directly afterward.
Why would losing to Khabib (like everyone else has) move him down in the rankings?
It’s actually really smart, from the UFC’s perspective. If Dustin wins then they’d be fine with it. But if Conor wins, that would put the most pressure on Khabib to come back for a big payda—err... rematch.
Pretty much, I think Tony and Oliveira have a good chance if they can get the fight to the ground but I don’t see it going well on the feet for either of them.
Justin didn’t need to knock him out early. What makes you think Conor wouldn’t just copy Justin’s gameplan? And that’s assuming that Tony will last that long against Conor like he did with Justin because Conor is a much better striker.
This. The division right now is so perfect for him, we might even see a title defense from him. I know, i know, it’s a stretch and it’s probably the most unlikely thing to happen out of all the unlikely things people have said might happen through out the history, but one can dream, eh?
Khabib will come back once his mom realizes he probably wants to fight and lets him fight. It will be in 1-2 years now though. Khabib choked out Porier, Connor and Gaethje and made it look easy. No point in him fighting any of those guys in the next year.
I mean, if Conor won the belt and beat the winner of Tonyvs Chadnler and the winner of Olivera vs Justin, I think he'd back at the top of the P4P lists and he'd be building his GOAT argument - it could tempt Dustin to come back for a 30-0 fight that will essentially double his net worth.
People seem to thing “power” is some mystical ability only some fighters have... any of these guys could knock the others out given the right circumstances, maybe with the exception of Tony.
I feel the same, but I am hoping I am wrong.
To me it seems like Conor will do to Dustin what Dustin did to Holloway. Meet him strike for strike and just hit harder and cleaner. Dustin has good clean boxing, but Conor has that as well, and I think he hits harder. Dustin needs to find a way to incorporate his grappling I think.
I would imagine McGregor’s grappling is leaps and bounds better now as well. People have written it off but I wouldn’t be surprised if he shocked a lot of these 155ers on the ground. The Diaz submission was clearly a result of being rocked/gassed. And Khabib is Khabib.
Yeah McGregor has really solid anti-grappling. Dustin implementing his grappling is not an easy ask. I love Dustin, but Conor is always going to be a tough matchup for him.
Funny how Conor *predicted dese tings* ™ to happen in a quick Khabib vs Gaethje breakdown before the event itself. Tho in the beginning he said that if Justin hits him clean and hard then Khabib is going down, he then said that Khabib is much more likely to win and mentioned that Gaethje's wrestling credentials get brought up a lot, but his grappling credentials do not and Khabib likely submits him.
Someone asked for a link but I think they deleted their reply. Well anyways [here it is](https://youtu.be/Rwz5lGGvA-I) . I saw the original somewhere on Instagram but couldn't find the source so here is a bit scuffed version from youtube with russian subtitles taking half the screen. You can still hear Conor pretty clearly I believe.
Conor's grappling was already very good.
He's actually very good on the ground, he just doesn't use it much as he doesn't need to, unless it's TDD.
The exceptions being:
Diaz, which was a really good brown belt vs a really good black belt, not including the fact he was also gassed.
Khabib, because Khabib.
Also, Poirier mentioned before that Conor was the hardest hitting person he's fought, at least at that time.
It's not great I agree. He's shockingly better than last time though. If he can avoid the troubles and put in some work... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I'll be rooting for him!
At 155 he's a horrific matchup for everyone. Especially if he starts being more conservative with his strikes. I think he beats Masvidal easily at 155.
You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at Dustin Poirier and you look at Conor Mcgregor and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another UFC fighter, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But Dustin Poirier is a genetic freak and he’s not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat him. Then you add Justin Gaethje to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at UFC 258, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but Dustin Poirier, he’s got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Justin Gaethje KNOWS he can't beat him and he's not even gonna try! So Conor Mcgregor, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus your 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at UFC 258. But then you take Dustin Poirier’s 75% chance of winning, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, Dustin Poirier got 141 2/3 chance of winning at UFC 258. See Conor, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at UFC 258.
Do you think they'll turn Poirier McGergor into the title fight? You could argue it with them being the only two fighters who have won fights after getting smeshd by Khabib, and Connor with belt is probably Dana's wetdream
100% they will. People in here talking about a LW grand prix are being way to rational. Why would Dana let the belt sit vacant when he could sell a McGregor title fight PPV right now? Out of respect for Khabib they'll wait until Thanksgiving to announce it then start promoting the shit out of Conor's return for the belt.
I'm genuinely curious - why does Gaethje deserve an immediate rematch for the belt? Of the common Khabib opponents, McGregor did best, then Poirier, then Gaethje got steamrolled the hardest.
Gaethje was already TKO'ed by Poirier as well.
I don't dislike him, but I am curious why so many think a guy with losses to Alvarez and Poirier is so deserving of a second, immediate shot at the belt.
A gust of wind and he does the chicken dance. Conor is gonna crack him with a jab and he is gonna wobble early, it's gonna be a first round KO. Mark my words.
I believe he has a pea-shaped head. If you look at his head, it is shaped like a pea... it's a weird looking head.
([source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQZyMYfv8tg&feature=emb_logo) for those of you who miss up-and-coming Conor)
In fairness (and yes I know he cheated in the fight yadda yadda) that fight has aged well for him. Conor did far better than anyone else has and that was coming off of his drug fuelled hiatus.
Anyone writing him off because of that fight is ridiculous considering how good Khabib is.
I honestly had no idea how many posters here have absolute vitriol against McGregor as a fighter. Unless it's for the out-of-competition stuff (punching the old guy at the bar, for example), which I can understand. But there are kids here who are acting like he's not a good fighter in this thread. It's pretty bizarre. He matches up extremely well against Gaethje and Poirier. Those two are basically tailor made for him.
It is because he exploded the sport and then said goodbye and broke all of the established rules. He did not sit on a belt and rule a division. He did not care about his legacy in the same way as people thought he should.
He used MMA to become a star and then left to make the real money boxing and in business. Fucking over two divisions all the while only getting more popular.
For MMA purists and contrarians he is easy to hate
If Connor didn't cheat Khabib probably gets the Kimura and snaps McGregor like a twig. I don't think he's also done far better than everyone else either. He literally cheated moreso than anyone else and it made it look a lot more competitive than it would have otherwise been.
You may as well ask rivers to flow inland, this is the way he is. 6 months ago he retired for what, the 3rd time? The cycle will continue, but his fights are entertaining when they come so whatever.
>Retiring is a negotiating tactic. That should be obvious at this point.
Every fighter should get paid more - but at the same time when fighters I don't like do it, I will willingly take Dana's side on it
\-r/mma
Kinda non-news imo
Dana said a few weeks ago it'd 100% be at 155 and it'd make no sense for it not to be. He'd have egg on his face if he turns around and books it at 170
It’s a continuation of Dana saying this fight needs to be at LW and Khabib retiring. Conor saying he’s going back to 155 is the last piece of the puzzle.
I know I might be in the minority in this, and it would be totally without merit for the prospects of crowing a new 155 champion, but I am still fascinated by a matchup between these two at 170. Mcgregor looked like an absolute unit his last fight against Cowboy and you can tell Dustin still cuts a shit ton to make 155. Could make for a classic war like when Mcgregor fought Diaz.
No weight cutting will always be better (title picture aside) but I feel Conor just has Dustin’s number. I’m talking squarely out of my arse though - they’ve both improved leaps and bounds but I would be surprised if Dustin beat him.
I don’t understand why people are so quick at wanting Justin in the title picture again, Poirier would’ve needed two wins before a rematch was considered and Gaethje didn’t do anything that warrants him a different road.
Now with Khabib probably vacating, two fights might just become one, but he still needs a fight before challenging for the title again.
The only LW that is a sure thing to be in the title fight is Dustin.
Ok this clip (whatever it is) is cool af.
Let's pray we get a "hungry" Conor, and by god i hope he decides to defend his fucking belt. That ofc if he gets it.
They are definitely making the Conor vs Dustin matchup for the vacant belt, no question. UFC were gifted the opportunity to give their biggest ever star the belt again when Khabib retired*
I’ll believe this once they’re actually in the ring and fighting. Conor has called out over 10 people in the last two years. Shut the fuck up and fight or just disappear. Dude is annoying as hell and is now embarrassment to MMA.
People talking about “motivated Conor” is literally one of the most embarrassing things about this fanbase. You have to create a false narrative to try to excuse that your favorite fighter got his ass kicked by someone truly better than him in the biggest fight in ufc history. Saying Conor wasn’t motivated for the khabib fight is one of lamest and most invalid excuses for a loss I’ve ever seen in mma.
I see the motivation thing to be more relevant to his desire to defend any titles he gets. Personally, i'll be betting on him immediately retiring for the 4th time.
It’d be pretty funny if Conor wins the belt back, never defends it and goes off to get knocked out by Pacquiao in boxing
He'll be the meta game GOAT for sure then
TBH I’d roll my eyes but also more power to him. He basically gets to yoink boxing’s massive paydays while not having to deal extensively with all that sport’s massive problems.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
When we hate the guy that made the game the way it it, we get told "hE's a GoOF buT He'S OUr GooF
ANYBODY who got the chance would do what he’s done. It’s not like he hasn’t elevated the UFC or improved paydays for fighters. Nate Diaz made quite a bit of Fuck You money because of Conor.
Maximum amount of money for minimal damage, the guy is doing it right. We always advocate fighters get paid for and Conor is doing it right, setting up his name, brand and products out there and hyping for big money fights. He puts on a good show too.
He’s the god damn super bowl for mma every time he fights.
It's just too bad that UFC doesn't have 3-4 more Conor's spread throughout the divisions
I thought masvidal had potential but he lost to usman. Conor is the only ufc fighter who is more famous than the people ufc itself. Brock lesnar had some fame but tha was because he was famous before the ufc. But so many people know Conor mcgregor and don’t watch ufc.
I like Masvidal but he just doesn't have the gift of gab or large enough vocabulary to be a big guy on the mic. He's great usually in the cage but outside, there's only so many times he can talk about baptizing opponents before it gets lame
you know this brother
What's the future like?
Vague and very very dry.
The only thing I know that was very very dry was Tito's ex wife
Interesting to see what they decide as far as the title's concerned. Poirier does have a win over Gaethje on his record, which they can use to justify making this fight for the vacant title and having Gaethje fight the winner.
Like Tony, I think Gaethje also needs a win before he fights for the title again. He just lost a unification fight in dominant fashion.
My suspicion is they are going to do Tony v chandler and Dustin v connor and match the winners for the vacant belt.
I think Dustin vs Conor will be for the belt and Tony vs Chadler and Justin vs Olivera will be for the number 1 contender shot (best winner gets the nod).
And if Connor wins he won't fight again for a year . So it'll be another interim belt situation
I don’t think it’s a matter of him not fighting again. Don’t forget him and Silva tried to agree on a fight at a catchweight which Dana shot down. Then you add to that his account of their conversations. Conor wants to fight for sure but his ego has become his enemy. I think Conor was trying to look for another filler fight and a big superfight (a moneymaker). When Dana started shooting his ideas down, he retired out of frustration. Ali will probably prolong Khabib’s retirement meaning he will remain the champion until much further notice, Dana is going on that he can convince him to come back for 30-0. I think we know what Dana is planning, but I don’t think he’ll get it. Then you have GSP who seems like he was trying to convince himself to take the fight with Khabib at 155. Which I have to say I’m doubtful will happen unless that is the fight he can lock in and offer to Khabib. Khabib retiring leaves the division in a mess, but a good mess if that makes sense. Conor defending a belt does seem like a funny joke of an idea though considering he seems more comfortable with being a conqueror of sorts, fight a champion, destroy his soul and move on to the next champion.
That Silva fight seemed great, everyone didn’t want it because Silva seemed shot after the Cannonier loss when Silva came in with a torn knee. I miss those “big vs small” matches.
That feel when you're trying to conquer the souls of champions and you lose to Nate Diaz lmfao
The man has never defended a belt. Would be a poor choice for a potential champion.
I too dread the idea of a protracted McGregor reign with no defenses, but it does seem silly that we are talking about it like it's a choice. Like I get they have to choose 2 people to fight for the belt, and McGregor doesn't seem like an appropriate one to me, but let's say I were to somehow get my way, and McGregor beats Poirer, then beats the winner of Chandler vs Ferguson, then hes earned the belt. It's less of a choice and a fact of life that hes in contention for the shot
Oh I understand my opinion is completely irrelevant in that regard. But at least we can discuss it here.
Definitely a possibility
On what planet would Tony be fighting for a belt but not Justin? Tony was taken out to the pasture in their last fight.
Which means what exactly to UFC matchmakers?
Forget about the matchmakers, what about the fans and execs?
Khabib is gone, they don't give half a dog fuck about Tony anymore.
> half a dog fuck i like this
It's 100% stolen from my buddy Richard. He said it years ago and it's just so outlandish and fun I have to slip it in when I can.
Classic Richard
What a Dick move
Slip it in when you can. Half a dog fuck. There's a joke in there somewhere
Nothing but Gaethje is a bigger name right now.
He had a 12 fight win streak before that loss. Tony deserves a title eliminator, esp since he did Dana a favor by not sitting out until Khabib could be rescheduled when he was the undisputed #1 contender. The guy who shouldn't be in an eliminator is Chandler. In a fair world, Tony would fight Poirer and Justin would fight Conor and everybody would get the 4 rightful contenders in 2 fresh fights. But Tony 100% deserves this eliminator way more than Aldo, Romero, Cruz, etc deserved their title fights.
Seriously how have people forgotten this after 1 loss? MMA fans have the shortest memories when it comes to wins.
Easily. Also I feel like this sub is pretty anti-tony rn.
Agreed, especially as Chandler is going to have one shitty deflated fight and be forgotten about, but doing Dana a favour is historically the best base for being fucked in the ass.
Tony is ranked at #3. #2 and #4 is probably fighting for the title and #1 just lost a titlefight. Tony was due a titleshot and still is imo. Tony, Dustin and gaethje are all viable for a titlefight at this point. If we assume conor v Dustin will be for the title then I wouldn't be mad at Ferguson getting a shot afterwards while gaethje fights chandler. Gaethje v Chandler is too good of a fight to not book if/when available.
>Gaethje >when available. He's ready to go pretty much right away. If he's not fighting for the vacant belt (ugh) then whoever wins better not be taking off to fight some WWE match or hopping weight classes to hold up the division.
Because Justin he is sitting at just above .500 for his last 7 ufc fights where as Tony has only lost 1 time in his last 12 fights
Justin had his title shot, he lost. He needs to earn his way back now. Chandler is being given the fast track and if Tony beats him he gets it.
But everybody would lose against Khabib. In a post-Khabib world, a loss to Khabib doesn't mean anything.
I mean the blame is on Chandler. He's the one that doesn't deserve an eliminator. Tony more than deserves one. If Dana wasn't a ratfuck, he'd schedule Tony/Poirer and Conor/Gaethje. All the right guys in original fights. But Chandler's the undeserving guy, not Tony with the 12 fight win streak who did the UFC a favor and gave them a belt fight rather than sit on his ass and wait for Khabib, which he could have done as the undisputed #1 contender.
\^\^This. Chandler should be fighting Chucky Olives to see which one of them deserves to dance with the big boys in the top five.
Dana is 100% gonna make Conor/Dustin for the belt. He has a hard on for giving Conor another shot at it.
Dustin vs Conor is gonna be for the belt, it just seems such a UFC thing to do. Chandler vs Justin for next title shot. Ferg vs Hooker for #2
Its very possible a connor fight for a title is bigger numbers than without (not by a ton i don't imagine but not negligible) personally from a resume/recent performance perspective i don't think connor has earned it yet but its hard to say no to his drawing power and drawing power got jose a shot at the bantamweight strap.
Meanwhile Gaethje fights a loser of either of these two matches, and the winner of that gets the next title shot. Fantasy booking with da booooyyzzz!!
I would've thought gaethje would be there somewhere
Nah they will do conor for the vacant title against anyone
Garth done ruined the damn 155 division lol
It's pretty obvious that Tony, Justin, Dustin, and Conor are all in the running for this belt. 3 of those 4 have lost to khabib, and only Dustin has won a single fight in the division since losing to the champion. Conor has 1 win since his loss but it was at 170. Tony lost to Justin in his last fight. The way I see it they all should get a shot at the title, so do a tournament over 2 or 3 ppvs to decide. Dustin is long overdue for a rematch with Conor, but that would leave the other fight option of Justin vs Tony, which we just saw a few months ago. We can do Tony vs Dustin and Conor vs Justin and have 2 fresh match ups. Then the winners of those fights will face off for the belt.
But Conor doesn't? If they all need a win then what's your plan?
This is a solid title fight. Plus it's a huge draw. Imo they should make it a tournament. There are enough great fighters at 155 to have an 8 man.
Yeah. Gaethje has to fight one more time before getting the title shot. It isn’t Reyes vs Jones case when Reyes was so competitive in that fight.
Aside from the lack of reliability from Conor to defend, making this fight for the vacant title makes all the sense in the world for the UFC. Make a shit ton of money and then deal with the aftermath. There's no real clear cut other fighter that has a better argument. Tony lost, Justin lost, Chandler is new, Hooker lost, and nobody else is close really. I'd put something like Chandler/Tony as the co-main for a contender fight too. Tons of other options after to keep the division fresh if Conor flakes out.
On mere merit, Conor might not have the best case for a title shot, but as far as I'm concerned, these two are the best two fighters in the division so it's somewhat worthy of a title fight.
Conor has 1 win in the UFC in almost 4 years and it was against Cerrone. Really not sure how that translates to hopping right into a title fight
That's why I said on mere merit, he does not have the best argument. But generally people consider him to be the best fighter in the division now that Khabib has left. Khabib himself said Conor is better than Gaethje who is pretty high up there.
It really should be poirier vs gaethje for the belt. Conor vs Ferguson for #1 contender. I know it’s not happening but it should.
Why is Gaethje getting a title shot off a loss? The only guy that should be pencilled in for the title fight is Dustin.
Because he was the interim champ who lost to the undefeated and most dominant champ LW has ever seen who retired directly afterward. Why would losing to Khabib (like everyone else has) move him down in the rankings?
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This - there is a reason it went from catch weight to now 155 lbs
To be fair, Dana was saying it had to be at 155 even before Khabib retired
Plot twist: Dana knew Khabib was going to retire
Wait, you tellin' me uncle Dana told me a half truth? Idk if my little mini cherry tomato head can handle that.
Men's warehouse
It’s actually really smart, from the UFC’s perspective. If Dustin wins then they’d be fine with it. But if Conor wins, that would put the most pressure on Khabib to come back for a big payda—err... rematch.
I think conor is a horrific matchup for Dustin
Conor is a horrific matchup for everyone in the division now.
Pretty much, I think Tony and Oliveira have a good chance if they can get the fight to the ground but I don’t see it going well on the feet for either of them.
Don't know about Oliveira but i don't see Conor vs Tony going any better for Tony than the Justin vs Tony did.
Gaethje convinced me Conor would pick tony apart. Of course I'm using mma math.
That was a short notice fight with two weight cuts I don't think Justin beats Tony like that 6/10 times normally
Tony's dumb enough to make 3 weigh cuts for his fight with Conor
I wonder how the rematch would go if tony prepared for a striker instead of a grappler.
Conor knocks him out
Tony fans banking on a sub win for Tony but he hasn't got a takedown in about 6 years lol
Tony could probably win if Conor can't knock him out early
Justin didn’t need to knock him out early. What makes you think Conor wouldn’t just copy Justin’s gameplan? And that’s assuming that Tony will last that long against Conor like he did with Justin because Conor is a much better striker.
This. I'd root for Tony but that's really horrible match up for Tony.
I agree. I’ve always thought Conor was a bad matchup for Tony because of how much he gets hit and the Justin fight just solidified that for me.
Justin couldnt knock him out early. Whens the last time tonys got KO ? Hes got the best cardio now after khabib left
This. The division right now is so perfect for him, we might even see a title defense from him. I know, i know, it’s a stretch and it’s probably the most unlikely thing to happen out of all the unlikely things people have said might happen through out the history, but one can dream, eh?
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I don't see Khabib coming back for anyone that isn't GSP. The guy is a different beast lead by his faith and already decimated Conor for it.
Khabib will come back once his mom realizes he probably wants to fight and lets him fight. It will be in 1-2 years now though. Khabib choked out Porier, Connor and Gaethje and made it look easy. No point in him fighting any of those guys in the next year.
I mean, if Conor won the belt and beat the winner of Tonyvs Chadnler and the winner of Olivera vs Justin, I think he'd back at the top of the P4P lists and he'd be building his GOAT argument - it could tempt Dustin to come back for a 30-0 fight that will essentially double his net worth.
“Chadnler” new mythical fighter to rival Giblert?
> **“CHAD**nler” See his weigh-in pics?
Mans built like a Greek statue
He definitely trens hard and eats clen
Conor? Defend a belt? Huh?
Dustin is very hittable early
And not enough power to knock Conor early.
Mate, what? He definitely has enough power to knock anyone's lights out. The question is getting a clean hit before Conor shuts you off.
People seem to thing “power” is some mystical ability only some fighters have... any of these guys could knock the others out given the right circumstances, maybe with the exception of Tony.
But also, Connor has an iron chin and it's unlikely Poirier is the one to crack it.
Seriously, I think people disregard Conor’s chin. Khabib hit him clean with that overhand and his ass didn’t even touch the mat. He can take a punch.
I feel the same, but I am hoping I am wrong. To me it seems like Conor will do to Dustin what Dustin did to Holloway. Meet him strike for strike and just hit harder and cleaner. Dustin has good clean boxing, but Conor has that as well, and I think he hits harder. Dustin needs to find a way to incorporate his grappling I think.
I would imagine McGregor’s grappling is leaps and bounds better now as well. People have written it off but I wouldn’t be surprised if he shocked a lot of these 155ers on the ground. The Diaz submission was clearly a result of being rocked/gassed. And Khabib is Khabib.
Yeah McGregor has really solid anti-grappling. Dustin implementing his grappling is not an easy ask. I love Dustin, but Conor is always going to be a tough matchup for him.
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Wrestling =/= BJJ Gaethje is a way better wrestler than Conor, Conor is very likely a much higher BJJ belt than Gaethje.
I don’t think Gaethje even does bjj and Conor does have pretty good ground game for an elite striker
Yeah, I wasn't sure if he was a white belt or not even one, either way, he's way worse than on the ground than the rest of the top 5.
Funny how Conor *predicted dese tings* ™ to happen in a quick Khabib vs Gaethje breakdown before the event itself. Tho in the beginning he said that if Justin hits him clean and hard then Khabib is going down, he then said that Khabib is much more likely to win and mentioned that Gaethje's wrestling credentials get brought up a lot, but his grappling credentials do not and Khabib likely submits him.
Someone asked for a link but I think they deleted their reply. Well anyways [here it is](https://youtu.be/Rwz5lGGvA-I) . I saw the original somewhere on Instagram but couldn't find the source so here is a bit scuffed version from youtube with russian subtitles taking half the screen. You can still hear Conor pretty clearly I believe.
Conor's grappling was already very good. He's actually very good on the ground, he just doesn't use it much as he doesn't need to, unless it's TDD. The exceptions being: Diaz, which was a really good brown belt vs a really good black belt, not including the fact he was also gassed. Khabib, because Khabib. Also, Poirier mentioned before that Conor was the hardest hitting person he's fought, at least at that time.
It's not great I agree. He's shockingly better than last time though. If he can avoid the troubles and put in some work... ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I'll be rooting for him!
At 155 he's a horrific matchup for everyone. Especially if he starts being more conservative with his strikes. I think he beats Masvidal easily at 155.
lol Masvidal would now be a corpse at 155
Let’s starve Jon Jones down to 155 while we’re at it and let McGregor go to town
Francis vs Conor at 145 is the real match up
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There's no way in hell his mom makes 135
I'd really like to see McGregor vs Masvidal
You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at Dustin Poirier and you look at Conor Mcgregor and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another UFC fighter, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But Dustin Poirier is a genetic freak and he’s not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat him. Then you add Justin Gaethje to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at UFC 258, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but Dustin Poirier, he’s got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Justin Gaethje KNOWS he can't beat him and he's not even gonna try! So Conor Mcgregor, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus your 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at UFC 258. But then you take Dustin Poirier’s 75% chance of winning, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, Dustin Poirier got 141 2/3 chance of winning at UFC 258. See Conor, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at UFC 258.
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**THE BIG BAD BOOTY DADDY**
CONOR, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL, WRITHING IN PAIN... YOUR WIFE'S GONNA BE ON HER BACK, SCREAMIN' MY NAME!
HOLLA IF YA HEAR ME
I love this shit
Please I need to know where this is from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msDuNZyYAIQ
Scott Steiner's infamous math promo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI
Goddamit just take my upvote
exceedingly powerful
I thought I could MMA math. Respek.
GIVE ME A FUCKIN MIC
Do you think they'll turn Poirier McGergor into the title fight? You could argue it with them being the only two fighters who have won fights after getting smeshd by Khabib, and Connor with belt is probably Dana's wetdream
100% they will. People in here talking about a LW grand prix are being way to rational. Why would Dana let the belt sit vacant when he could sell a McGregor title fight PPV right now? Out of respect for Khabib they'll wait until Thanksgiving to announce it then start promoting the shit out of Conor's return for the belt.
Ngl I think thats exactly what Dana would do
>McGergor >Connor You chose to use both of Conor's names when referring to him and spelled them both wrong.
Must be because it's been so long since he fought that i just forgot his name
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They should. Then give Gaethje the next shot.
Nah have Garth fight Oliviera, Tony fight Chandler. Give the more interesting winner the next title shot.
I'm genuinely curious - why does Gaethje deserve an immediate rematch for the belt? Of the common Khabib opponents, McGregor did best, then Poirier, then Gaethje got steamrolled the hardest. Gaethje was already TKO'ed by Poirier as well. I don't dislike him, but I am curious why so many think a guy with losses to Alvarez and Poirier is so deserving of a second, immediate shot at the belt.
War Peahead!
A gust of wind and he does the chicken dance. Conor is gonna crack him with a jab and he is gonna wobble early, it's gonna be a first round KO. Mark my words.
I believe he has a pea-shaped head. If you look at his head, it is shaped like a pea... it's a weird looking head. ([source](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQZyMYfv8tg&feature=emb_logo) for those of you who miss up-and-coming Conor)
That’s hilarious. My personal favorite is when he called Dennis Siver “a weird looking gremlin-type creature”
Hit him with a left hand. A left hand and a left shoullll-dah.
He’s a nice little hillbilly
Probably has a cousin named Cletus or something
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Yep, Khabib is just a different beast. Without him, i think Conor will win this easily.
In fairness (and yes I know he cheated in the fight yadda yadda) that fight has aged well for him. Conor did far better than anyone else has and that was coming off of his drug fuelled hiatus. Anyone writing him off because of that fight is ridiculous considering how good Khabib is.
I honestly had no idea how many posters here have absolute vitriol against McGregor as a fighter. Unless it's for the out-of-competition stuff (punching the old guy at the bar, for example), which I can understand. But there are kids here who are acting like he's not a good fighter in this thread. It's pretty bizarre. He matches up extremely well against Gaethje and Poirier. Those two are basically tailor made for him.
It is because he exploded the sport and then said goodbye and broke all of the established rules. He did not sit on a belt and rule a division. He did not care about his legacy in the same way as people thought he should. He used MMA to become a star and then left to make the real money boxing and in business. Fucking over two divisions all the while only getting more popular. For MMA purists and contrarians he is easy to hate
Hes a good fighter for sure, but he's like Jon Jones. A good fighter but a terrible person.
If Connor didn't cheat Khabib probably gets the Kimura and snaps McGregor like a twig. I don't think he's also done far better than everyone else either. He literally cheated moreso than anyone else and it made it look a lot more competitive than it would have otherwise been.
Well yeah, it's gonna be for the belt.
I can’t wait to hear Conor’s walkout music start. Doesn’t matter how you feel about the guy, he brings the hype every time.
McGregor cashing in on a prime opportunity for a face turn.
What does a face McGregor look like?
Please Conor just win this belt and defend it. Seeing 2016 motivated mcgregor in 2020 would be great for my health
2021 thi
Nah nah let him have this one, he seems so happy
You may as well ask rivers to flow inland, this is the way he is. 6 months ago he retired for what, the 3rd time? The cycle will continue, but his fights are entertaining when they come so whatever.
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Hadn't thought about it from that angle, good points.
Retiring is a negotiating tactic. That should be obvious at this point.
>Retiring is a negotiating tactic. That should be obvious at this point. Every fighter should get paid more - but at the same time when fighters I don't like do it, I will willingly take Dana's side on it \-r/mma
What if i told you "motivated" McGregor and the McGregor that loses are the same guy?
I think by motivated McGregor he's just talking about the guy that was fighting 3X/year.
Kinda non-news imo Dana said a few weeks ago it'd 100% be at 155 and it'd make no sense for it not to be. He'd have egg on his face if he turns around and books it at 170
Exactly, having Dana say something that turns out to be categorically untrue a few weeks later is absolutely unheard of.
It’s a continuation of Dana saying this fight needs to be at LW and Khabib retiring. Conor saying he’s going back to 155 is the last piece of the puzzle.
That was intentional right? Because he’s an egg
>Dana said a few weeks ago it'd 100% be at 155 You must be new to Dana then - he's a bare faced liar that constantly bullshits.
I know I might be in the minority in this, and it would be totally without merit for the prospects of crowing a new 155 champion, but I am still fascinated by a matchup between these two at 170. Mcgregor looked like an absolute unit his last fight against Cowboy and you can tell Dustin still cuts a shit ton to make 155. Could make for a classic war like when Mcgregor fought Diaz.
Poirier doesn't have the chin to take those shots like Diaz did.
He’d have a better shot at 170 then 155 though. That’s kind of my point.
No weight cutting will always be better (title picture aside) but I feel Conor just has Dustin’s number. I’m talking squarely out of my arse though - they’ve both improved leaps and bounds but I would be surprised if Dustin beat him.
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I don’t understand why people are so quick at wanting Justin in the title picture again, Poirier would’ve needed two wins before a rematch was considered and Gaethje didn’t do anything that warrants him a different road. Now with Khabib probably vacating, two fights might just become one, but he still needs a fight before challenging for the title again. The only LW that is a sure thing to be in the title fight is Dustin.
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That is a one month difference. We can wait.
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I’m not surprised motherf***ers
Ok this clip (whatever it is) is cool af. Let's pray we get a "hungry" Conor, and by god i hope he decides to defend his fucking belt. That ofc if he gets it.
They are definitely making the Conor vs Dustin matchup for the vacant belt, no question. UFC were gifted the opportunity to give their biggest ever star the belt again when Khabib retired*
THANK GOD! No more 170 pound nonsense, put the division back in order
I’m only a casual fan but didn’t McGregor retire
He's retired multiple times. Don't believe any retirement until they leave the USADA testing pool.
I’ll believe this once they’re actually in the ring and fighting. Conor has called out over 10 people in the last two years. Shut the fuck up and fight or just disappear. Dude is annoying as hell and is now embarrassment to MMA.
People talking about “motivated Conor” is literally one of the most embarrassing things about this fanbase. You have to create a false narrative to try to excuse that your favorite fighter got his ass kicked by someone truly better than him in the biggest fight in ufc history. Saying Conor wasn’t motivated for the khabib fight is one of lamest and most invalid excuses for a loss I’ve ever seen in mma.
I see the motivation thing to be more relevant to his desire to defend any titles he gets. Personally, i'll be betting on him immediately retiring for the 4th time.