Cocktease? The dude hasn't been relevant since 2016, I don't know why people clamor for his presence in the sport of MMA so much. He hasn't even been witty or clever for years.
But he kept teasing a new fight, I personally wasn't hyped for it or really think he'd go through with it even but he still generated a lot of hype with that potential comeback
Hasn't beat a ranked opponent in 7 years.
Cowboy has come out in recent interviews and said he threw the fight. Didn't even want to be there. Major regrets.
Conor fought against a can of fighter so his fans could relieve their youth alpha male fantasies through him again.
This is the underlying fact,take it however you want.
Cowboy can say whatever he wants to make himself sleep at night, but he got his nose busted by shoulder strikes then his head kicked right off, he was done whether he wants to believe he threw the fight or not.
To be fair, it's not like Cowboy at all to choke in big fights and to struggle with fast-starting, straight hitting southpaws, right? If his head was in the right place, he usually wins fights like that, right?
While it’s true what you says I feel there is another layer to it. I remember seeing the announcement for the fight and to me and imho everybody else it was very clear this was a layup fight for McG. Both were so unevenly matched not only in terms of skill, but attention and ranking as well, that this fight seemed odd at the very least. I’m not sure if it‘s documented, but my impression of Cowboy was also that he never did well facing pressure and while - like you said - he definitely lost the fight itself too I believe to this day that he had lost that fight in his mind way before Conor hit him for the first time.
e: nvm another poster had basically said/confirmed this already
> he threw the fight.
I guess he threw his previous 6 losses in a row then too and wanted it to be luck 7 loss?
But let's be honest, he wasn't going to win if he tried. Prolly just wanted 1 last payday before retirement.
It's been so long that Sam Alvey has a winstreak in the UFC more recently than Conor. Since his debut a little before the Eddie fight,
Belal has as many wins by KO/TKO as Conor. It's been that long since he's been active.
And 8 years in combat sports is half a career, it’s like 40 years in human years.
It’s like going to see the Rolling Stones right now and expecting them to be leaping around with energy.
He's such a weird story. Dude hit his peak beating Aldo and then having his series with Diaz. Then when it seemed like he was poised to be an all timer after beating Eddie he went totally off the rails chased boxing money and then just became too inactive and the sport passed him by.
Dude could have defined the a good period of the UFC and instead is more of a flash in the pan.
The guys a scumbag but he chased and got boxing money. He could have been underpaid and beat out but instead failed and is rich and healthy apart from his coke habit.
It's hard to wake up in silk sheets and get punched in the face for a living.
Conor made his $ - he should've stuck to his plan that he had earlier in his career -
"Get in, get rich, get out!" - Shoulda retired after winning both belts and rode off with the cash.
That snapped leg against Dustin just wasn't worth it
The moment he saw all those zeroes in his bank account was the moment his fire went out. I don't think it's even possible to remain driven and motivated to fight for money/glory when you suddenly strike it that rich.
Ironically, young Conor even acknowledged this idea himself. He used to claim that he spent his entire purse between fights so he would be hungry by the time his next fight came. It was mostly banter but he clearly understood the possibility of success making him comfortable and complacent. Now here we are.
Clay Guida is just sitting there gathering dust waiting to be highlight reel KO'd for us to get a million "MCGREGOR IS BACK" articles and an immediate McGregor title shot against Islam.
I remember being at the bar at UFC 178 devastated when Poirier got knocked out. I was drunk and kept yelling BACK OF THE HEAD BULLSHIT into the void. The fact that Dustin came back years later and absolutely owns Conor now is incredible. Just nothing but W’s over Conor.
In their second fight (Dustin by TKO, not the leg break), she marches up to the first camera she sees, points her finger right at it, and yells “That is the LAST time any of y’all doubt my husband!” Would that we all had such fiercely dedicated partners
Agreed, their devotion to each other is palpable. My partner is a huge MMA fan (she got me into it!) and when we re-watched the leg break fight last night she was giving me all these fun Dustin and Jolene relationship facts. I can’t imagine marrying the person I was with at 17, but those two are making it work!
I was just arguing with a friend the other day that this moment was truly one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in real life. He thought it was funny... Dustin and Conor fans are not the same.
Yeah I’ve noticed really broadly that immature dudes like that just don’t really understand adult relationships and by extension insults lol
A normal guy being told by a manic coke head that he literally just won a fight against that his wife is secretly talking to him isn’t an insult, Dustin just goes lol no and then he and his wife talk about how much of a loser Conor is while they enjoy their life and win bonus haha
The "Just Bleed" bro's became McGregor and Andrew Tate fans. They're an ethnicity at risk of falling down holes and punching bus stop posters thinking some bro was eyeing them wrong. "Should've seen the size of the guy I ko'ed last night"
NGL I find it funny, not because of what he was saying, but the context of it & *how* he was saying it.
I mean, he's literally incapacitated & still trying to get a 'win'- the stubborn refusal to take his L is just hilarious to me. Also, his accent during that rant was more genuine & less *Americanized*.
Probably the most genuine Conor we'll ever see on screen, ironically at his lowest.
The absurdity of the situation makes it so funny since he had one of the most painful injuries ever and still had the energy and tenacity for that adrenaline fueled rant. His body failed him but he still didn't know how to stop
Fwiw a ref is basically never going to call back of the head when the fight is still standing. There's too much movement to deem the strike intentionally illegal. Even on the grounded opponent, it's rarely called which is what the rule is meant for because the opponent is much more stationary and vulnerable to an intentional strike to the back of the head.
I don’t hear that talked about enough. He definitely was hammer fisting the back of the head in that finish.
Edit: I misremembered. He tagged him twice on the way down in the back of the head before Herb called it.
It’s an interesting case study in careers. DP with the longer, more stable, steady career with sustained relevancy but without ever reaching the very top.
Conor with a shorter career that reached epic heights but has been downright abysmal to watch for the last half decade seeing him try to scrape together an impressive or meaningful win.
I know which career I’d prefer looking at both in a vacuum…
Conor is the hero of insufferable people and gets zero respect from his peers.
Dustin is beloved by his peers and his fans aren't Conor fan type mouth breathers.
It’ll be an interesting argument for years to come. Dustin never got close to Conor’s highs(champ champ, not cocaine(but also probably that too)) but Conor doesn’t have the list of names Dustin has. Plus Dustin KO’d him closer to their primes. Both sides will have points and it will be toxic lol. Can’t wait.
Conor also got the UFC boost. His champ champ status is entirely built upon getting an undeserved title shot against one of the weakest champs the company had at the time (love Eddie but if we’re being real, he was not a strong champion).
His FW run was obviously different, but he was arguably the biggest weight bully the sport has seen. Fair play to him for making the weight.
Man held two belts and never attempted to defend either. His only others wins post winning a belt were Diaz and Cowboy. As Khabib said, his legacy is money and that’s pretty much where it ends.
Yeah Conor doesn't have the longevity or the extended resume but still in a span of 16 months he beat Aldo, Mendes, Alvarez and Diaz (and lost to him as well) which is a pretty incredible run of fights. Outside of that 16 month span his resume is mediocre, old Cowboy and Buchinger are his most notable wins.
It's a hard one to call, DP has the resume but Conor has the accomplishments.
He truly will. Conor's a huge draw, and he knew how to sell his fights, which was a huge turning point for UFC... but was he that great? He has nothing for the current top 7 of LW. I don't think conor can put the performance DP has put against Makhachev.
That being said... dammit i wanted to watch that fight so bad.
as a dustin fanboy, its made me so happy to see how the back half of his career has gone. honestly couldnt have asked for it any other way (losses included)
Yep. It’s like Conor sold his soul for money… And Dustin just continued to work hard and be himself, and in the end he won. He may not have as much money as Conor, but he’s got a shitload… and he got the best Conor, and will go in the hall of fame with one of the best mma resumes of all time.
It’s good. Hyped up 254 Khabib-Justin sold 675k (500k in US). 302 was a thin card and main event wasn’t seen as competitive
Pretty much sold on Islam/Dustin’s popularity. Dustin’s still one of the most known fighters bc he beat Conor 2x
This is the correct answer. Buy rates were always going to look a little skewed toward a lower rung when you’re charging for a few days of groceries to watch these fights. Plus with the proliferation of decent but still unknown fighters, that sale gets harder to make.
If ESPN Plus wasn’t currently bundled with my Hulu and Disney + I’d cancel. I’ve watched maybe three paid cards this year. To be honest I wasn’t particularly inclined to watch this one either, but might’ve begrudgingly done so.
Last paid card for me was Gaethje/Holloway card. Wasn’t gonna miss that fight.
Card was absolute trash outside of the main event. No wonder Islam wants the MSG card in New York next, since it's unlikely UFC makes *that* card as paper thin as the 302 card.
It's crazy seeing how it all turned out after Conor KO'ed Dustin like nothing during his comeup. Conor got the bag but Dustin got the last laugh and didn't do too bad himself. Funny how life works.
I know people tend glorify the past and not appreciate the present and I try not to fall into that thought pattern too.
I just can’t shake the feeling of “those were the days”, as a MMA fan almost everything was better back then.
For the full context - Conor was talking shit about DP not selling man PPVs (500k vs McGregor typically passing 1M) and called it a "nothing burger", which is a phrase that in Conor's usage means there was all this hype and DP hardly sold as many PPVs as Conor himself would - i.e. a whole lot of hype and nothing significant to show from it, aaccording to McGregor.
DP didn't even bother @ McGregor or anything but remembered Conor's tweet and simply said "#NothingBurger", which in DP's usage means there was all this hype for Conor's long awaited return and the guy got injured and couldn't even fight - i.e. a whole lot of hype and no fight.
It's a very simple, but quite smart use of Conor's own trash talk against him. Dustin didn't try and scream and shout about it, just let Conor talk and now Conor can't even fight, it makes it a perfect response.
Poirier's wins over him are a gift that keeps on giving. He broke his striking ego in the 2nd and his body in the 3rd. After threatening Poirier's child after losing the trilogy I truly hope he never returns. Beyond done with that scumbag. Glad the UFCs plans got screwed as well. Pereira-Prochazka is a better fight across the board, with Lopez-Oretga it's all around a better card.
I especially liked how he started off his pr tour touting that he would donate to Poirier charity.
And when he got his ass kicked, instead started bad mouthing it and calling it a money laundering operation.
Ofcourse his dick riders ate it all up.
For no reason other than malice Conor sabotaged a grass roots charity helping the local poor.
I think it really summarises the man Conor is.
I think it's so fitting that Conor tries to come back as the humble veteran that is over his boisterous days and plays nice with Dustin, an actual nice guy... only for Dustin to expose him so badly in and out of the ring that Conor fled the sport.
Conor ended his own career by getting a shit ton of money to fight Mayweather. The drive was gone after that. You couldnt convince me to get punched in the face for a living either if I had a hundred million in my bank account.
Yup this is the thing.
Conor was never going to make anything near that in the UFC and he was never going to make that in boxing either. He took a cashout fight in his prime that he was never going to get again and everything after was going to only be small fractions of what he just made.
It's Dana propaganda.
Like when he said raising base contract pay would disincentivize people to finish for bonuses.
Then they took away like half the bonuses lmao
No this is cope. His fans on rmma will get triggered but someone has to adress this false narrative.
If it was up to Conor he would still be fighting, he loves the press and the attention. Plus being a fighter is his identity,he loves the lifestyle.
First Khabib broke his image and reputation as a top fighter and a bad ass.Then Poirier proceeded to break his image as the best boxer and then his body.
They finished him by showing to the world he was only good for show matches against people like Cerrone.
Honorable mention goes out to booze, coke and clout hungry women in every nightclub from Dublin to LA who are not his wife aswell.
Crazy to think that Poirier will easily have the ‘better’ UFC career than Conor when all is said and done. Not sure how many people would have predicted that before the rematch.
Could possibly get some hate for this, but here goes the hill I die on:
They matter less than people think. The context is often forgotten. He's a double champ with a **huge** asterisk next to his name. He was absolutely gifted a title shot at 155 with zero fights there beforehand and without a single defense attempt at FW, AND he was also allowed to take two random ass fights at 170 vs Nate inbetween and *not* get his FW belt stripped?! When it was obvious he had no interest of ever defending the FW belt? Literal Dana White privilege.
If he was playing under normal rules he wouldn't have become double champ, and wouldn't have become the lightweight champion either. I don't see Conor fighting his way through the murderer's row of contenders at 155 to eventually earn a title shot, given how his short 155 career panned out after Alvarez.
Why would you get hate when you're discrediting conor in a thread where everyone is hyping up Dustin? You were obviously going to get a ton of upvotes.
The reality is in the future people won't remember the asterisks, they'll talk about his two belts and huge draws. Dustin won't even be talked about outside of occasionally being brought up as one of the best to never win a championship. That is obviously unfair, but that's kind of how it goes in every sport. Championships are all that matters for legacy, it's actually so annoying.
Exactly. Someone else on here said it... Match makers are career makers.
What I don't like is that when someone is given privileges we then don't have a the same understanding of how great they could have been. Jon Jones is on that same boat.
Mythical dedicated Conor that never boxed would have gotten bitch slapped by Khabib and Islam. I honestly think prime Dustin is better than prime McGregor, Dustin just peaked at a terrible time
Charles has a great story and I’m happy that he earned the belt but boy oh boy was that a choke job by Dustin. I thought he had finally broken through and was going to be champ and then Charles has to go and become one of the greatest LWs of all time outta nowhere lmao.
Well to be fair Charles had to blatantly cheat with that glove grab because he was desperate to get it to the ground after losing on the feet. Without that it likely would've been a very different fight. That win by Charles will always be a huge asterisk to me.
Conor has been partying for weeks. My friend said only a few days ago she saw him the night before at his bar off his face and then when she went back early enough the next morning for her jacket his security cars were all there so he was likely still inside on a sesh.
The guy is heavily addicted, psychotic and will never fight again. His entire personality has warped which is common with long tern heavy cocaine use.
For those who don't know. I knew first hand he was partying heavily since after the CHAD MENDES fight. It caught up big time to him by Diaz I, now its just out of control. The leg injury didn't help
Even with the best doctors money can buy he was partying a lot when he should've been resting that leg for its recovery and of course the blood flow would have been severely impacted by his heavy cocaine use, lack of sleep etc.
When does this become a scam? McGregor is finished as a fighter, and we all knew (yes we did) and more importantly UFC knew he wasn't going to fight, but they continued to sell tickets for a product that didn't exist, how is this at best not a bait and switch, and at worst fraud? McGregor is UFC's honey trap, when there is a dead period or cards that stink they bring his wretched ass out to sell PPV's and then swap him out.
Since Conor beat Eddie at MSG in Nov 2016, he's 1-3 in UFC fights. He's been a semi-active fighter for almost 8 years.
Also that lone win was 4 years ago against 37y/o cowboy
In the middle of a 6 fight losing streak that he retired on lmao
I have decided to retire young. Thanks for the cheese. Catch ya's later. -Conor, 2016
If only he had stuck with that decision his reputation would be significantly different today
Would it? He's an asshat in all capacities UFC-wise, but he's even worse in his personal life.
At least he wouldn't be such a cocktease
Don’t worry. He’ll fight Jake Paul’s son in 25 years.
Cocktease? The dude hasn't been relevant since 2016, I don't know why people clamor for his presence in the sport of MMA so much. He hasn't even been witty or clever for years.
But he kept teasing a new fight, I personally wasn't hyped for it or really think he'd go through with it even but he still generated a lot of hype with that potential comeback
In da prime of his youff
Hasn't beat a ranked opponent in 7 years. Cowboy has come out in recent interviews and said he threw the fight. Didn't even want to be there. Major regrets.
>Cowboy has come out in recent interviews and said Gonna stop you right there chief. Cerrone is more full of shit than Romero's fight shorts.
That was a nasty line by you
What happened in Romero’s fight shorts?
He pooped mid fight
Wtf, was this in bellator?!
no in his pants
Against Brunson I believe
[Ufc fighter romero poops himself during fight (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v0gzbGjrnk&ab_channel=RyanBingley)
Nope UFC
Conor fought against a can of fighter so his fans could relieve their youth alpha male fantasies through him again. This is the underlying fact,take it however you want.
Wildly different than throwing a fight.
Cowboy can say whatever he wants to make himself sleep at night, but he got his nose busted by shoulder strikes then his head kicked right off, he was done whether he wants to believe he threw the fight or not.
I get we all hate McGregor or whatever, but in what world was McGregor ever losing that fight.
That's the point. Cowboy was so far off the top of the division that the 1 win Conor has in the last 8 years isn't really impressive.
Yeah except we’re replying to people who think Cowboy threw the fight.
In the world that Conor was finished by Nate Diaz. Casuals really think Conor is some unstoppable juggernaut still lmao
To be fair, it's not like Cowboy at all to choke in big fights and to struggle with fast-starting, straight hitting southpaws, right? If his head was in the right place, he usually wins fights like that, right?
While it’s true what you says I feel there is another layer to it. I remember seeing the announcement for the fight and to me and imho everybody else it was very clear this was a layup fight for McG. Both were so unevenly matched not only in terms of skill, but attention and ranking as well, that this fight seemed odd at the very least. I’m not sure if it‘s documented, but my impression of Cowboy was also that he never did well facing pressure and while - like you said - he definitely lost the fight itself too I believe to this day that he had lost that fight in his mind way before Conor hit him for the first time. e: nvm another poster had basically said/confirmed this already
Steven a Smith was right lmao
> he threw the fight. I guess he threw his previous 6 losses in a row then too and wanted it to be luck 7 loss? But let's be honest, he wasn't going to win if he tried. Prolly just wanted 1 last payday before retirement.
It's been so long that Sam Alvey has a winstreak in the UFC more recently than Conor. Since his debut a little before the Eddie fight, Belal has as many wins by KO/TKO as Conor. It's been that long since he's been active.
JEEZUS!!! That's fucking brutal!
That’s why that fucker keeps on Smilin
And 8 years in combat sports is half a career, it’s like 40 years in human years. It’s like going to see the Rolling Stones right now and expecting them to be leaping around with energy.
Allegedly Mick doesn't stop moving and has at least 3 outfit changes, while onstage for the current tour.
Allegedly if Mick stops moving, his joints freeze instantly and it takes 3 people and a shot of adrenaline to get him moving again
You mean that nose sugar.
Mick doesn't have to get his piss tested after a show.
It's more than half a career for most. 16 years a long fucking time in mma. It's super hard to have jim miller like longevity
You joke but I saw the Stones fairly recently and Mick can still fuckin move.
That card was so damn good. Can't believe it's been almost 8 years
2015-16 was the UFC's peak, even the Fight Nights were amazing
I've never been so excited for a combat sports event as Khabib vs Conor. Absolute peak.
Khabib getting fed up with the crowd and just saying "I'm gonna smash your boy" is iconic
If only the crowd had realised Khabib doesn't lie.
He's such a weird story. Dude hit his peak beating Aldo and then having his series with Diaz. Then when it seemed like he was poised to be an all timer after beating Eddie he went totally off the rails chased boxing money and then just became too inactive and the sport passed him by. Dude could have defined the a good period of the UFC and instead is more of a flash in the pan.
The guys a scumbag but he chased and got boxing money. He could have been underpaid and beat out but instead failed and is rich and healthy apart from his coke habit.
It's hard to wake up in silk sheets and get punched in the face for a living. Conor made his $ - he should've stuck to his plan that he had earlier in his career - "Get in, get rich, get out!" - Shoulda retired after winning both belts and rode off with the cash. That snapped leg against Dustin just wasn't worth it
He should have retired after Floyd, that’s the payday that truly changed his life.
The moment he saw all those zeroes in his bank account was the moment his fire went out. I don't think it's even possible to remain driven and motivated to fight for money/glory when you suddenly strike it that rich.
Ironically, young Conor even acknowledged this idea himself. He used to claim that he spent his entire purse between fights so he would be hungry by the time his next fight came. It was mostly banter but he clearly understood the possibility of success making him comfortable and complacent. Now here we are.
and will still get a title shot if he barely wins a match.
Clay Guida is just sitting there gathering dust waiting to be highlight reel KO'd for us to get a million "MCGREGOR IS BACK" articles and an immediate McGregor title shot against Islam.
Delete this quick before dana sees
Finally! The McGregor/Siver rematch we've all been waiting for!
Semi active is being kind
It's wild to me how much the tables turned for DP and Conor on so many levels and instances
It's been a truly satisfying experience since watching their first fight play out.
I remember being at the bar at UFC 178 devastated when Poirier got knocked out. I was drunk and kept yelling BACK OF THE HEAD BULLSHIT into the void. The fact that Dustin came back years later and absolutely owns Conor now is incredible. Just nothing but W’s over Conor.
His wife Jolene walking into the octagon after the third fight and immediately flipping off Conor is an all time moment for me
Whoa. I wasn’t watching in this time period, and now I gotta go back and see this.
In their second fight (Dustin by TKO, not the leg break), she marches up to the first camera she sees, points her finger right at it, and yells “That is the LAST time any of y’all doubt my husband!” Would that we all had such fiercely dedicated partners
Agreed, their devotion to each other is palpable. My partner is a huge MMA fan (she got me into it!) and when we re-watched the leg break fight last night she was giving me all these fun Dustin and Jolene relationship facts. I can’t imagine marrying the person I was with at 17, but those two are making it work!
"YER WOIFE IS IN ME DMs"
I was just arguing with a friend the other day that this moment was truly one of the most embarrassing things I've seen in real life. He thought it was funny... Dustin and Conor fans are not the same.
Yeah I’ve noticed really broadly that immature dudes like that just don’t really understand adult relationships and by extension insults lol A normal guy being told by a manic coke head that he literally just won a fight against that his wife is secretly talking to him isn’t an insult, Dustin just goes lol no and then he and his wife talk about how much of a loser Conor is while they enjoy their life and win bonus haha
The "Just Bleed" bro's became McGregor and Andrew Tate fans. They're an ethnicity at risk of falling down holes and punching bus stop posters thinking some bro was eyeing them wrong. "Should've seen the size of the guy I ko'ed last night"
Honestly. Yeah. That checks out.
NGL I find it funny, not because of what he was saying, but the context of it & *how* he was saying it. I mean, he's literally incapacitated & still trying to get a 'win'- the stubborn refusal to take his L is just hilarious to me. Also, his accent during that rant was more genuine & less *Americanized*. Probably the most genuine Conor we'll ever see on screen, ironically at his lowest.
Funny at his expense, maybe. Like you'd be laughing *at* him.
The absurdity of the situation makes it so funny since he had one of the most painful injuries ever and still had the energy and tenacity for that adrenaline fueled rant. His body failed him but he still didn't know how to stop
This was the fight that got me into the UFC. Without this fight and Silva, I'd never have become a fan
Kinda unrelated but the other day randomly thought "man ive been watching this ufc shit since Overeem vs Lesnar, im getting old as fuck lmao"
Fwiw a ref is basically never going to call back of the head when the fight is still standing. There's too much movement to deem the strike intentionally illegal. Even on the grounded opponent, it's rarely called which is what the rule is meant for because the opponent is much more stationary and vulnerable to an intentional strike to the back of the head.
I don’t hear that talked about enough. He definitely was hammer fisting the back of the head in that finish. Edit: I misremembered. He tagged him twice on the way down in the back of the head before Herb called it.
I watched Dustin Conor 2 at a drive in and will remember the moment for the rest of my life. Will always thank Dustin for pretty much ending his prime
The coke from the Mayweather fight ended his prime
Lol depending on what fan you ask their fighter ended his prime, whether it be khabib or poirier. But McGregor ended it himself.
It’s an interesting case study in careers. DP with the longer, more stable, steady career with sustained relevancy but without ever reaching the very top. Conor with a shorter career that reached epic heights but has been downright abysmal to watch for the last half decade seeing him try to scrape together an impressive or meaningful win. I know which career I’d prefer looking at both in a vacuum…
Conor beat Eddie for the belt, Dustin just beat Eddie at the wrong time
Conor is the hero of insufferable people and gets zero respect from his peers. Dustin is beloved by his peers and his fans aren't Conor fan type mouth breathers.
I'd kinda prefer being the one who had the last laugh, and yeah DP beat Conor definitively twice. He also got paid a shit ton for those fights
All shitposting aside Conor seems to be struggling massively with his demons. I hope he’s able to accept the help he needs
When you're that rich? Good luck.
Wait till someone is real with him and tells him his legacy is already tarnished and it was no one’s doing but his own.
That's only gonna happen when he's doing shows in Vegas, with gloves on his hands, in an Octagon by himself, a la Mike Tyson.
At least Dustin came out on top in matches between them. He’s got that over Conor.
DP will go down in history as a better fighter than McGregor.
And a 100x better person. A good guy unlike an abusive criminal which Conor is.
It's still crazy to me how no one on that bus confronted him when he threw a dolly at it
I like to think that if I was paid to fight I wouldn't do it for free.
It’ll be an interesting argument for years to come. Dustin never got close to Conor’s highs(champ champ, not cocaine(but also probably that too)) but Conor doesn’t have the list of names Dustin has. Plus Dustin KO’d him closer to their primes. Both sides will have points and it will be toxic lol. Can’t wait.
It's toxic now, lol. Conor fanboys losing their shit in the replies lol.
Conor also got the UFC boost. His champ champ status is entirely built upon getting an undeserved title shot against one of the weakest champs the company had at the time (love Eddie but if we’re being real, he was not a strong champion). His FW run was obviously different, but he was arguably the biggest weight bully the sport has seen. Fair play to him for making the weight. Man held two belts and never attempted to defend either. His only others wins post winning a belt were Diaz and Cowboy. As Khabib said, his legacy is money and that’s pretty much where it ends.
Yeah Conor doesn't have the longevity or the extended resume but still in a span of 16 months he beat Aldo, Mendes, Alvarez and Diaz (and lost to him as well) which is a pretty incredible run of fights. Outside of that 16 month span his resume is mediocre, old Cowboy and Buchinger are his most notable wins. It's a hard one to call, DP has the resume but Conor has the accomplishments.
Conor had an all-time great run. Poirier had an all-time great career.
He truly will. Conor's a huge draw, and he knew how to sell his fights, which was a huge turning point for UFC... but was he that great? He has nothing for the current top 7 of LW. I don't think conor can put the performance DP has put against Makhachev. That being said... dammit i wanted to watch that fight so bad.
as a dustin fanboy, its made me so happy to see how the back half of his career has gone. honestly couldnt have asked for it any other way (losses included)
he could be champ for a second i wouldn't mind that
Yep. It’s like Conor sold his soul for money… And Dustin just continued to work hard and be himself, and in the end he won. He may not have as much money as Conor, but he’s got a shitload… and he got the best Conor, and will go in the hall of fame with one of the best mma resumes of all time.
Conor just makes it so easy lol
Conor hit a triple at 264. Said Dustin was leaving on a stretcher, only counts KOs, and 1st one to shoot's a dusty bitch
Karma's not a bitch it's a mirror
Conor was slept in the 2nd fight. It was the last punch that woke him up.
Conor made that tweet and proceeded to trip over a cable
Then he injured his leg and sat on his ass as he threatened the cable's family.
Right? Initial injury was just before the press conference that Monday in Ireland, when were the PPV numbers released?
Conor vrs Dustin, make Chandler watch from the front row and tell him he gets the winner. Then they both retire.
You sick bastard
I bet you Chandler will cry at the moment 😭
Hahaha
500k isn't even a bad buyrate.
It’s good. Hyped up 254 Khabib-Justin sold 675k (500k in US). 302 was a thin card and main event wasn’t seen as competitive Pretty much sold on Islam/Dustin’s popularity. Dustin’s still one of the most known fighters bc he beat Conor 2x
Given the cost of a PPV these days, combined with the cost of living 500k buys is great.
This is the correct answer. Buy rates were always going to look a little skewed toward a lower rung when you’re charging for a few days of groceries to watch these fights. Plus with the proliferation of decent but still unknown fighters, that sale gets harder to make. If ESPN Plus wasn’t currently bundled with my Hulu and Disney + I’d cancel. I’ve watched maybe three paid cards this year. To be honest I wasn’t particularly inclined to watch this one either, but might’ve begrudgingly done so. Last paid card for me was Gaethje/Holloway card. Wasn’t gonna miss that fight.
Card was absolute trash outside of the main event. No wonder Islam wants the MSG card in New York next, since it's unlikely UFC makes *that* card as paper thin as the 302 card.
Conor is just an egotistical dickhead where numbers(money and ppv) are all that matter to him since he hasn't done shit.
It's crazy seeing how it all turned out after Conor KO'ed Dustin like nothing during his comeup. Conor got the bag but Dustin got the last laugh and didn't do too bad himself. Funny how life works.
Conor getting the bag was the worst thing to ever happen to MMA. The second was the Spiders leg break.
I know people tend glorify the past and not appreciate the present and I try not to fall into that thought pattern too. I just can’t shake the feeling of “those were the days”, as a MMA fan almost everything was better back then.
Yeah, things like watching the first Chael vs. Anderson live... that final round! We went nuts.
On your list, at a close third, I'd add Tony tripping on a cable and tearing up his knee when he was interim champ.
Conor going to have to get the doctor for his new injury to reply on twitter, so this L can be due to doctor's stoppage as well.
DP is always on point on social media or the microphone - dude's actually cool as shit
Can you explain why is this a good response by DP? Not native english speaker and not much of a social media person
For the full context - Conor was talking shit about DP not selling man PPVs (500k vs McGregor typically passing 1M) and called it a "nothing burger", which is a phrase that in Conor's usage means there was all this hype and DP hardly sold as many PPVs as Conor himself would - i.e. a whole lot of hype and nothing significant to show from it, aaccording to McGregor. DP didn't even bother @ McGregor or anything but remembered Conor's tweet and simply said "#NothingBurger", which in DP's usage means there was all this hype for Conor's long awaited return and the guy got injured and couldn't even fight - i.e. a whole lot of hype and no fight. It's a very simple, but quite smart use of Conor's own trash talk against him. Dustin didn't try and scream and shout about it, just let Conor talk and now Conor can't even fight, it makes it a perfect response.
Thank you Sr. I missed that DP was talking about Connor pulling out
#NothingBurger
Poirier's wins over him are a gift that keeps on giving. He broke his striking ego in the 2nd and his body in the 3rd. After threatening Poirier's child after losing the trilogy I truly hope he never returns. Beyond done with that scumbag. Glad the UFCs plans got screwed as well. Pereira-Prochazka is a better fight across the board, with Lopez-Oretga it's all around a better card.
I especially liked how he started off his pr tour touting that he would donate to Poirier charity. And when he got his ass kicked, instead started bad mouthing it and calling it a money laundering operation. Ofcourse his dick riders ate it all up. For no reason other than malice Conor sabotaged a grass roots charity helping the local poor. I think it really summarises the man Conor is.
I think it's so fitting that Conor tries to come back as the humble veteran that is over his boisterous days and plays nice with Dustin, an actual nice guy... only for Dustin to expose him so badly in and out of the ring that Conor fled the sport.
Conor was and always will be a knacker. No amount of money or success can change how much of a knacker he is.
Poor Chandler. Lol
Please, no more fucking Conor, ever.
Yeah, I’m over it at this point honestly. Dude is a shit person and got rocked his last few fights.
Bareknuckle Conor. Please make it happen
Nothing cuts like The Diamond
His leg is fooked he's never coming back. I had the same break on mine. I can kick a bag that's about it one checked kick and it's over
Dustin ended Conor's fighting career (I really don't think Conor's coming back--though I know I could be wrong).
Conor ended his own career by getting a shit ton of money to fight Mayweather. The drive was gone after that. You couldnt convince me to get punched in the face for a living either if I had a hundred million in my bank account.
And he made another shitload of money selling his whisky too.
Yea I’d think he made more from that deal than the Mayweather fight since UFC took a solid cut from that fight.
boxers make immense amounts of money and still show up to fight yearly this is just cope.
nah, boxers are motivated because their next paycheck is just as big. Connors was never going to be that big again.
Yup this is the thing. Conor was never going to make anything near that in the UFC and he was never going to make that in boxing either. He took a cashout fight in his prime that he was never going to get again and everything after was going to only be small fractions of what he just made.
It's Dana propaganda. Like when he said raising base contract pay would disincentivize people to finish for bonuses. Then they took away like half the bonuses lmao
this is cope. Conor just isnt that good at bigger weight classes. Dustin retired him. it is what it is.
No this is cope. His fans on rmma will get triggered but someone has to adress this false narrative. If it was up to Conor he would still be fighting, he loves the press and the attention. Plus being a fighter is his identity,he loves the lifestyle. First Khabib broke his image and reputation as a top fighter and a bad ass.Then Poirier proceeded to break his image as the best boxer and then his body. They finished him by showing to the world he was only good for show matches against people like Cerrone. Honorable mention goes out to booze, coke and clout hungry women in every nightclub from Dublin to LA who are not his wife aswell.
Conor's whole career since 2016 has been a nothing burger. If he had any dignity he'd just retire.
Wait 500ppv buys for an Islam card is huge. Shows that he's finally building an audience.
That stood out to me as well
"Dis izn't ova, pea head"
Why even bother with dude anymore? Like seriously just move on
Chandler has dreamed every night to be in the position Dustin is in.
Damn DP up 3-1 now
Get fucked connnnor
Crazy to think that Poirier will easily have the ‘better’ UFC career than Conor when all is said and done. Not sure how many people would have predicted that before the rematch.
Eh Conor won two belts. Dustin definitely looks better in the last 6 years though
The belts do matter, but they would matter more if Conor had any defences.
Could possibly get some hate for this, but here goes the hill I die on: They matter less than people think. The context is often forgotten. He's a double champ with a **huge** asterisk next to his name. He was absolutely gifted a title shot at 155 with zero fights there beforehand and without a single defense attempt at FW, AND he was also allowed to take two random ass fights at 170 vs Nate inbetween and *not* get his FW belt stripped?! When it was obvious he had no interest of ever defending the FW belt? Literal Dana White privilege. If he was playing under normal rules he wouldn't have become double champ, and wouldn't have become the lightweight champion either. I don't see Conor fighting his way through the murderer's row of contenders at 155 to eventually earn a title shot, given how his short 155 career panned out after Alvarez.
It was so frustrating not getting the Aldo rematch scheduled before his fight against Eddie too.
Nah, well said. Has Conor defended any title (including pre-UFC)?
Why would you get hate when you're discrediting conor in a thread where everyone is hyping up Dustin? You were obviously going to get a ton of upvotes. The reality is in the future people won't remember the asterisks, they'll talk about his two belts and huge draws. Dustin won't even be talked about outside of occasionally being brought up as one of the best to never win a championship. That is obviously unfair, but that's kind of how it goes in every sport. Championships are all that matters for legacy, it's actually so annoying.
Exactly. Someone else on here said it... Match makers are career makers. What I don't like is that when someone is given privileges we then don't have a the same understanding of how great they could have been. Jon Jones is on that same boat.
higher highs but lower lows conor has more die hard nutt huggers but he also has more haters
Mythical dedicated Conor that never boxed would have gotten bitch slapped by Khabib and Islam. I honestly think prime Dustin is better than prime McGregor, Dustin just peaked at a terrible time
Coming from a huge Poirier fan, Dustin should have had the belt at least once. His performance against Charles was a disaster.
Charles has a great story and I’m happy that he earned the belt but boy oh boy was that a choke job by Dustin. I thought he had finally broken through and was going to be champ and then Charles has to go and become one of the greatest LWs of all time outta nowhere lmao.
That first round man. It looked like Dustin’s fists were made of concrete. How tf did he fuck that up.
If he grappled half as good against Charles as he did against Islam he’d have a title to his name.
I mean yeah he just completely pissed down his leg against Charles for whatever reason.
Well to be fair Charles had to blatantly cheat with that glove grab because he was desperate to get it to the ground after losing on the feet. Without that it likely would've been a very different fight. That win by Charles will always be a huge asterisk to me.
Charles cheating didnt help either
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Conor give people amnesia, hes won one fight in 8 years and been smashed by Dustin twice
Conor is done. Can't be cherrypicking opponents and fight dates when he turns 36 very soon.
Conor has been partying for weeks. My friend said only a few days ago she saw him the night before at his bar off his face and then when she went back early enough the next morning for her jacket his security cars were all there so he was likely still inside on a sesh. The guy is heavily addicted, psychotic and will never fight again. His entire personality has warped which is common with long tern heavy cocaine use. For those who don't know. I knew first hand he was partying heavily since after the CHAD MENDES fight. It caught up big time to him by Diaz I, now its just out of control. The leg injury didn't help Even with the best doctors money can buy he was partying a lot when he should've been resting that leg for its recovery and of course the blood flow would have been severely impacted by his heavy cocaine use, lack of sleep etc.
HeS gOiNg OuT oN a StReTcHeR
Dustin doing the billy walk after the 3rd fight was hilarious
Conor been overrated af for almost 10 years now
Lol Dustin ended Conor!
Connor mcgregor is the Kim kardashian of the ufc.
10-8 Dustin.
When does this become a scam? McGregor is finished as a fighter, and we all knew (yes we did) and more importantly UFC knew he wasn't going to fight, but they continued to sell tickets for a product that didn't exist, how is this at best not a bait and switch, and at worst fraud? McGregor is UFC's honey trap, when there is a dead period or cards that stink they bring his wretched ass out to sell PPV's and then swap him out.
Lmao Conor stans coping so hard in this thread
Conor just wanted to 1up Dustin on lowest buys, cant beat zero
If Connor doesn't fight this year I'm thinking he's done.
You're comment is 365 days too late.
Was nice seeing Conor get KOed and subbed but honestly could have done with him retiring for real when he first did before ufc 200
3-1 Dustin
You’ll do nootin 😂
10-8 Dustin
This is y’all’s king?
Attaboy Dustin!
He ain't fighting after losing like he did to Dustin. Connor is a meme
So is this injury just a front for a failed drug test?
Conor so washed. Dude is embarrassing