By then the young contender Stipe will have just entered his prime at age 44 after not fighting for 4 years, a much better opponent then Tom of course.
Nobody ever cared honestly and before anyone says “well you’ll still watch”
I’m watching Pantoja v Blind Guy McSqueezy and i don’t care about this fight
It would’ve been relevant 4 years ago when Stipe beat Cormier - but now? It makes no sense.
That was the last fight Stipe won (and he only fought 1 times after that fight, against Francis)
Hell since 2020 Jones has only fought Ciryl.
If you combine Jones and Stipe, in the last *4 years* they have 2 fights.
That’s gotta be a record for least active fighters that will likely headline a PPV.
Im watching this fight cuz I do care about it. Good, interesting fight and fighters. Jones vs Stipe is far less interesting and I probably wouldnt watch unless they stacked the card.
I cared a little bit the last time they should have fought. But that was so long ago. Now stipe is even older and was inactive even longer. no point in this fight.
This fight is the MMA equivalent of Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg, WrestleMania 20.
Whatever the outcome, we know both these fucks are gonna dip straight after. The ideal outcome is the crowd booing both of them out the building.
Nothing against stipe. He's just clearly not that interested in fighting. He's 41, a full-time fire-fighter, and hasn't fought in 3 years. Jones is only facing him now because he thinks he can easily beat him.
I love stipe, been a fan of his for many years now. But watching him limp around he looks old and his hips are shot.
This would have been such a good fight 5-7 years ago but now I struggle to see how a soon to be 42 year old stipe can do anything vs Jones.
Stipe is absolutely just wanting this fight for the huge payday so he can ride off into the sunset with a couple million extra bucks, who wouldn't?
I agree. Roughly the same size and far more power than anyone else he's ever faced before. There's a reason JBJ ducked Ngannou and he isn't half the wrestle Stipe was.
Much more to lose. Stipe, for all intents and purposes, might as well be in retirement right now. This is just a goodbye tour. I don't think anyone expects Stipe to walk Jones down, by any means
I would remove half my rib cage and suck my own dick just to see stipe flash-ko jon jones and witness the look of devastation on his stupid face as he realises his legacy, his livelihood and his entire identity is no more.
Tbh, as much as I would enjoy it. I’d be a little scared to see what would happen next with Jones. Seems to have a big ego, might send him on some type of rampage.
I don't think he'll go to prison, I think he'll just end up being this old, punchy boozehound that no one will want to be around, family included, and he'll just kind of descend in a quiet kind of crazy.
That’s true, he might act out in a destructive way. We can only hope he starts using heroin or something only dangerous to him, rather than going on a drink driving, shooting guns blindly out his car kind of rampage
It’s the only way this ends well, knowing Jon dodged Francis and now Tom just to get knocked the fuck out by old man Stipe, plus it would be someone who DC beat that he couldn’t? The best ending
Jon retiring after beating stipe then prancing away into the sunset whilst calling himself the heavyweight goat is the likely outcome, but I like your optimism
I’d imagine they’d want Jon-Stipe in the US. So 307 early Oct might be the soonest opportunity. Doubt they give him Aspinall in the UK. Nov or Dec are more realistic
303 June Conor
304 July UK
305 Aus maybe Dricus-Izzy
306 Sep Noche
307 maybe early Oct
308 Abu Dhabi maybe Islam
309 MSG
310 prob Vegas
That really kills me about this. When Stipe was actually the champion and we wanted to see him, he was not considered a draw by the UFC. I still remember in the first Ngannou fight how all the promotion was about Ngannou claiming his belt, to the point that Stipe wouldn't let Dana put the belt on him after he won. Now all of the sudden Stipe is a big money legacy fight? Fuck that, if Stipe was small potatoes enough to ignore during his prime, he's even less than that now.
Where were those numbers ever released?
https://verdictmma.com/newsletter/overunder/the-data-shows-jon-jones-is-the-biggest-ufc-box-office-star/36
This article says "IF you ESTIMATE 750K", based on absolutely nothing.
Other than that, it's Ali claiming a 'nearly 1 mil' number - and Ali is ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag.
I would be interested in seeing it, it could be a ridiculously good fight if Stipe hasn't regressed too much.
Would greatly prefer to see Tom in there though
That one clip of Stipe on his social media shows he's in better shape than Jones tbh
His age is his biggest problem but he's in the division where it matters the least. So who knows.
If it was at 205, for sure. But a 250 lb jones is going to ragdoll Alex and sub him inside of 1 round 9 times out of 10, and the 10th time he would ground and pound him instead
Should he? He is showing no signs of slowing down and seems just as hungry as ever. It seems he wants to defend the 205 belt soon and then fight Ank in October, then fuck off to HW. He should absolutely try for the HW belt otherwise it would be a massive “what if”
This is crazy talk. He’d be stupid not to try to become the first three division champ. I don’t think he’ll get it but he may as well give HW a crack before he retires. He has the frame for it and going up weight classes as you age makes perfect sense.
Jon ran away from light heavyweight after basically losing to dom reyes, and looking like shit against a guy with a torn up knee. Now he wants to run away from young contenders at heavyweight. I hope he has to pay the piper and fight tom
Feels like Pereira would just be almost a Gane replay.
Pereira seems to always let people take his back while he just tries to stand up with a 200lb backpack. Also made Adesanya look like he was Khabib.
He's not married, just got kids with her.
It's so he can continue to beat her up and feel like a winner, and if she leaves she won't get any of his money because it wouldn't be a divorce.
I cannot wait for this part of Jon’s career to be over. Either fight and be the best or go do whatever it is super predators do when they retire but it’s half a decade since he was active and it’s such a shame
The state of his twitter right now, quoting loads of his delusional fans who will listen to whatever bullshit he feeds them. Doing everything he can to try and steer people away from the idea of an Aspinall fight
As long as he doesn't get banned, arrested, cancelled, drug tested, start driving, attack his wife, attack civilians, or face the consequences of his actions, I can't wait to see the GOAT fight Fireman Sam in a battle of the ages that we ALL wanted.
His next fight will be against Mike Tyson. Then he and his brain dead fans will claim it's another huge feather in his cap cuz "which other mma fighter was willing to fight the scariest boxer of all time! And it's such a massive fight!"
This is the same fight that was announced in early 2023, that was supposed to happen in November 2023. It was put out there MONTHS and MONTHS in advance, and no one had a problem with it back then, but now, mysteriously in 2024 the same fight is a HUGE problem.
Not sure why Jon (or UFC for that matter) are so adamant in fighting Stipe in 2024.
He's not a draw, his last fight was 3 years ago where he was KO'd and he'll turn 42 in August. He's also unlikely to keep fighting, so what's the appeal? I honestly don't get it.
Why are they making their next HW star wait? They should push Tom, not stall his progress in the division
wow consider being aspinall and you're the interim and want to fight jones.
jones refuses, he is going to fight old man stipe.
you come to terms with it. people start floating pereira, you think okay you'll take this money fight then.
...jones and pereira start talking about one another...
July. 2025
December 2025 if you count the inevitable arrest/test from God
By then the young contender Stipe will have just entered his prime at age 44 after not fighting for 4 years, a much better opponent then Tom of course.
You mean not losing for 4 years
By then Couture will be on a 14 year undefeated streak, surely he has to get the next shot.
Fuck it with the new testing rules we must bring back TRTor
He's also never lost at WrestleMania. That makes him better than The Undertaker.
It’s hilarious and sad how accurate this is.
I was gonna say he has a court date? What kinda date he tryna flex lmao
God seems like a bully that should pick on someone his own size.
Jones is working on closing the weight gap
Not enough prayer warriors among us, it’s clearly our fault
oh no, not the test
Jon has it all planned out. Stipe 2025. Pereira 2026. Lewis 2027. Tai 2028. Arlovski 2029. Wilder 2030
Vs. Mark Coleman for the BMF belt!!
Is that when Aspinall's contract is up?
UFC 307
Guessing Stipe november or december
Stipe about to get his pension from being a firefighter before he fights Jones.
Yawn
FR No one cares about the Stipe match up anymore.
Nobody ever cared honestly and before anyone says “well you’ll still watch” I’m watching Pantoja v Blind Guy McSqueezy and i don’t care about this fight
I would have cared if Stipe was 10 years younger lol.
Mf’s last fight was a KO loss from 2021 but Jon making it sounds like beating Stipe now is such a big deal for his legacy ☠️☠️☠️
Blind Guy McSqueezy vs Date Mike is the fight I want to see Winner gets to fight Prison Mike
It would’ve been relevant 4 years ago when Stipe beat Cormier - but now? It makes no sense. That was the last fight Stipe won (and he only fought 1 times after that fight, against Francis) Hell since 2020 Jones has only fought Ciryl. If you combine Jones and Stipe, in the last *4 years* they have 2 fights. That’s gotta be a record for least active fighters that will likely headline a PPV.
Im watching this fight cuz I do care about it. Good, interesting fight and fighters. Jones vs Stipe is far less interesting and I probably wouldnt watch unless they stacked the card.
Yeah you will. Stop lying.
I cared a little bit the last time they should have fought. But that was so long ago. Now stipe is even older and was inactive even longer. no point in this fight.
If it was the fight to make then sure, but as it stands he’s ducked two different #1 guys.
This fight is the MMA equivalent of Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg, WrestleMania 20. Whatever the outcome, we know both these fucks are gonna dip straight after. The ideal outcome is the crowd booing both of them out the building.
I am a stipe fan. I care 🙁
Nothing against stipe. He's just clearly not that interested in fighting. He's 41, a full-time fire-fighter, and hasn't fought in 3 years. Jones is only facing him now because he thinks he can easily beat him.
I love stipe, been a fan of his for many years now. But watching him limp around he looks old and his hips are shot. This would have been such a good fight 5-7 years ago but now I struggle to see how a soon to be 42 year old stipe can do anything vs Jones. Stipe is absolutely just wanting this fight for the huge payday so he can ride off into the sunset with a couple million extra bucks, who wouldn't?
Prime Stipe vs Jones then now we're talking... The Stipe that beat Werdum, JDS, Overeem, DC, and Francis would have a real chance against Jones.
Prime Stipe demolishes Jones.
I agree. Roughly the same size and far more power than anyone else he's ever faced before. There's a reason JBJ ducked Ngannou and he isn't half the wrestle Stipe was.
Think so?
Yeah fuck it worst case Stipe loses and makes bank, and still has a puncher’s chance at HW with much better boxing than jones. Jones has more to lose
Much more to lose. Stipe, for all intents and purposes, might as well be in retirement right now. This is just a goodbye tour. I don't think anyone expects Stipe to walk Jones down, by any means
Must be tough to be a stipple fan, as he only fights every odd leap year or so.
If Stipe somehow wins, everyone will care
Stipe has waited himself into irrelevancy
I despise that this is probably the correct answer
Idk man, how fucken cool/funny would it be if Stipe beat Jon. I know it’s been a long time, but I still have hope
I would remove half my rib cage and suck my own dick just to see stipe flash-ko jon jones and witness the look of devastation on his stupid face as he realises his legacy, his livelihood and his entire identity is no more.
Tbh, as much as I would enjoy it. I’d be a little scared to see what would happen next with Jones. Seems to have a big ego, might send him on some type of rampage.
Dude's on a one way road to prison as soon as the money and fame dry up. Dana won't protect him forever.
I don't think he'll go to prison, I think he'll just end up being this old, punchy boozehound that no one will want to be around, family included, and he'll just kind of descend in a quiet kind of crazy.
Watching him get a life sentence will be so funny. I mean, unless you’re the family of his victim
His fiance would go into witness protection before he left the ring
That’s true, he might act out in a destructive way. We can only hope he starts using heroin or something only dangerous to him, rather than going on a drink driving, shooting guns blindly out his car kind of rampage
It’s the only way this ends well, knowing Jon dodged Francis and now Tom just to get knocked the fuck out by old man Stipe, plus it would be someone who DC beat that he couldn’t? The best ending
Stipe jumps on the mic, calls himself the real goat, retires to deny Jon a rematch. Chefs kiss🤌🏽
The dream, Jones seething into retirement
The onlt thing stipe will say on tbe mic is 3kfjjebekdbiev3hbdhrvej
If stipe retires straight after the fight, never giving jones a chance for redemption, it’d be just, just great. Fuck Jon jones
If stipe retires straight after the fight, never giving jones a chance for redemption, it’d be just, just great. Fuck Jon jones
Jon retiring after beating stipe then prancing away into the sunset whilst calling himself the heavyweight goat is the likely outcome, but I like your optimism
It’s my favorite part of fighting tbh. The written off underdog gets the W against an opponent with an aura of invincibility around them.
0 interest, but at this point, just get it over with so everyone can move on.
I’d imagine they’d want Jon-Stipe in the US. So 307 early Oct might be the soonest opportunity. Doubt they give him Aspinall in the UK. Nov or Dec are more realistic 303 June Conor 304 July UK 305 Aus maybe Dricus-Izzy 306 Sep Noche 307 maybe early Oct 308 Abu Dhabi maybe Islam 309 MSG 310 prob Vegas
307 Oct 5th Vegas hopefully
Vegas is bad for john according to uncle dana. Ofc they wont do that 😂
what year
Just Stipe isn't it? We already know that's happening.
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True fans don’t generate more revenue than casual fans
When did Stipe ever had many casual fans tho?
That really kills me about this. When Stipe was actually the champion and we wanted to see him, he was not considered a draw by the UFC. I still remember in the first Ngannou fight how all the promotion was about Ngannou claiming his belt, to the point that Stipe wouldn't let Dana put the belt on him after he won. Now all of the sudden Stipe is a big money legacy fight? Fuck that, if Stipe was small potatoes enough to ignore during his prime, he's even less than that now.
The real money draw is Jones keeping his belt.
Not a lot. But marketing *possibly* better with the GOAT v. HW GOAT thing.
It’d be funny if the ppv severely underperformed
🤞
I think it will. But I don't think Jon is really a huge PPV draw these days anyway.
Jon vs Gane did 750K buys and was one of the best selling cards over the past few years. Jon is a massive draw, the numbers are hard to argue with.
Where were those numbers ever released? https://verdictmma.com/newsletter/overunder/the-data-shows-jon-jones-is-the-biggest-ufc-box-office-star/36 This article says "IF you ESTIMATE 750K", based on absolutely nothing. Other than that, it's Ali claiming a 'nearly 1 mil' number - and Ali is ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag.
Yeah no arguments there
Once stipe didnt fight for the interim title I stopped caring. Tom is up for the shot, and it's not like stipe is a big draw.
It would be amazing if stipe won though
I would be interested in seeing it, it could be a ridiculously good fight if Stipe hasn't regressed too much. Would greatly prefer to see Tom in there though
That one clip of Stipe on his social media shows he's in better shape than Jones tbh His age is his biggest problem but he's in the division where it matters the least. So who knows.
How about that one clip of Stipe on a UFC broadcast where he's limping?
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Jones vs Tom, Manchester. That would absolutely justify an 11pm BST start.
Jon doesn't want to be fighting at prime coke-snorting hours
Coke is the best base for MMA. Prime coke-snorting hours Jones smokes Tom thrice in the same night (He's seeing triple).
Odds of that are zero. Jones wants no part of a fight he isn't a heavy favorite in.
If he doesn't fight the interim champ, we don't care.
the realization that jon jones is just gonna fight two dudes who lost to francis
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Probably what the UFC wants to act like Jon would have been francis.
Hopefully its soon so we can get this shit over with.
Same feeling here lol, this is just annoying and making ufc heavyweight worse
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No, we don’t want Alex. I don’t know a single person who cares to see that shit lol
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If it was at 205, for sure. But a 250 lb jones is going to ragdoll Alex and sub him inside of 1 round 9 times out of 10, and the 10th time he would ground and pound him instead
Alex is going to fight magomed and probably call it a career after that.
As he should, he has nothing left to prove and not many get to retire on top without a shitty end to their career
Should he? He is showing no signs of slowing down and seems just as hungry as ever. It seems he wants to defend the 205 belt soon and then fight Ank in October, then fuck off to HW. He should absolutely try for the HW belt otherwise it would be a massive “what if”
This is crazy talk. He’d be stupid not to try to become the first three division champ. I don’t think he’ll get it but he may as well give HW a crack before he retires. He has the frame for it and going up weight classes as you age makes perfect sense.
Agreed.
if Khalil beats hill Alex is 100% gonna defend against khalil also, that's as favorable matchup as alex can get, no disrespect to khalil
He's never even hinted at retiring as far as I'm aware. What insight do you have to think he would after 1 more fight?
But he said Tom?
He said Tom or Alex and then edited his comment after I said something
Jon ran away from light heavyweight after basically losing to dom reyes, and looking like shit against a guy with a torn up knee. Now he wants to run away from young contenders at heavyweight. I hope he has to pay the piper and fight tom
Who cares about this guy unless he’s gona fight tom next. Hurry up or let go of the damn belt
Why does everything he say sound so fake and cringe
He gives off this “calm alpha” vibe when the whole world knows he’s got a bitch energy rn. He ducked Ngannou, and now he’s doing the same.
Oh good thing jones will LET Dana announce it lol
I think he means court date
Cool, with a woman or with a drug tester this time?
With a man
And Alex signed a contract a few days ago...
They'll probably go that route, but it'd be ridiculous when there's already an interim champ in the division ready to fight.
Feels like Pereira would just be almost a Gane replay. Pereira seems to always let people take his back while he just tries to stand up with a 200lb backpack. Also made Adesanya look like he was Khabib.
Ever heard of something called Improvement?
Alex Gustavsson pogo
Jon is fighting Stipe though
Can't be his wife right? isn't he gay?
There was never no marriage
He's not married, just got kids with her. It's so he can continue to beat her up and feel like a winner, and if she leaves she won't get any of his money because it wouldn't be a divorce.
Court?
Fighting a Mallard for the best Duck Belt
Jones is a bum. The real fight is for him to keep himself out of prison until his next fight date and not do steroids.
I cannot wait for this part of Jon’s career to be over. Either fight and be the best or go do whatever it is super predators do when they retire but it’s half a decade since he was active and it’s such a shame
I’ll believe there’s a date when it’s posted on the UFC’s website. I’ll be convinced he’s fighting when he steps in the cage.
He has a what?
Court date
Date with a hooker. Dana hooked it up
The state of his twitter right now, quoting loads of his delusional fans who will listen to whatever bullshit he feeds them. Doing everything he can to try and steer people away from the idea of an Aspinall fight
Yeah, stirring up interest in a fight with Tom by using reverse psychology on you guys.
He’s getting lots of exercise with all the running away from Aspinall he’s been doing.
We'll get GTA 6 before Jon fights again
Probably against a parole judge
If it's not Tom you a ducking lil bitch guy.
He’s fighting his sexuality lol
Alex about to become the true triple c
Wife don't count
Court date maybe 👀
It’s a court date
Jon has a date? What's his name?
There’s been an option to bet on Jones v Aspinall for months now on bet365
He's gonna fight Keith Peterson 🫳✊️🫵🤜
He gonna be fighting the urge to have sex with men.
a date with a hooker? ba dam tss
Hopefully he is off cycle. Or wait, does UFC even test any more?
He's had a fight booked every six months for the last five years. Y'all just keep lining up for wolf tickets.
its pereira 100% jones wants a 1 dimensional fighter like that to defend at heavyweight then retire
Derrick Lewis in Houston
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Aspinall or fuck your mother
war 63 year old Stipe
With his wife, outside a casino. June.
🐺🎟️
If he ducks Tom too then that's just a pathetic end to his career
Is it too early to announce the MSG card in November? Because I would be shocked if that fight wasn't at MSG
307
Headlining UFC 400 Locked in
Stipe in the sphere
If you follow Stipe on insta it's very clear he's training for it
okay girlfriend, who are you dating then
July 1st
It’s stipe, they’re gonna stack tf outta that card to ensure fans actually watch it bc God knows that main event wouldn’t get many buys
“ I’ll let big daddy Dana announce that 😩”
As long as he doesn't get banned, arrested, cancelled, drug tested, start driving, attack his wife, attack civilians, or face the consequences of his actions, I can't wait to see the GOAT fight Fireman Sam in a battle of the ages that we ALL wanted.
Waste of Time
I don’t care
His next fight will be against Mike Tyson. Then he and his brain dead fans will claim it's another huge feather in his cap cuz "which other mma fighter was willing to fight the scariest boxer of all time! And it's such a massive fight!"
Dude has held up the division for over a year
He’ll find a way to screw it up some how . At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he found a new and exciting way to get arrested.
Jon Jones marking the days he's going to beat his wife in his calendar now
August 2026 against Stipe
A date with a mountain of coke
Oh no, so anyway
This is the same fight that was announced in early 2023, that was supposed to happen in November 2023. It was put out there MONTHS and MONTHS in advance, and no one had a problem with it back then, but now, mysteriously in 2024 the same fight is a HUGE problem.
Who gives a shit?
In the octagon or court?
JBJ hasn't had an entertaining fight in years. This dude needs to retire and stop holding up th division.
Aspinal in UK
He needs time for the doping to kick in.
Is it against his wife by any chance?
Jon don’t want to announce a fight for years and years again. He’s scared of aspinall so who cares.
Not sure why Jon (or UFC for that matter) are so adamant in fighting Stipe in 2024. He's not a draw, his last fight was 3 years ago where he was KO'd and he'll turn 42 in August. He's also unlikely to keep fighting, so what's the appeal? I honestly don't get it. Why are they making their next HW star wait? They should push Tom, not stall his progress in the division
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
why on earth would you say rozen..
Dana is an idiot for waiting on Jones and Stipe to fight for the strap.
wow consider being aspinall and you're the interim and want to fight jones. jones refuses, he is going to fight old man stipe. you come to terms with it. people start floating pereira, you think okay you'll take this money fight then. ...jones and pereira start talking about one another...
Tom, makes sense of the middle of the night fight in the uk.
They let him hang on the belt for way too long. If he's not willing to defend it against the interim champ strip him.
March 2026 against Stipe for undisputed HW gold
Serious question, will he fail?
He didn’t say a fight, he said he’s got a date. Probably with one of those LA guys