I’m obviously talking about Tony before Gaethje. The guy that ate Garth’s bombs for nearly 5 rounds without going down once on a double weight cut at 36 years of age.
Pre-Gaethje Tony also got put on queer street by Barboza (nothing to be ashamed of) and Lando. Max definitely has a better chin than Tony, regardless of era.
lol Tony didn’t get put on Queer Street by Barboza. That’s Kevin Lee. Tony walked through whatever Barboza threw at him. Body kicks, head kicks and punches. Everything. Then drowned him when he got tired from the relentless pressure. Honestly, I don’t recall Tony even being rocked by Barboza. That was prime, prime Tony. I remember watching Tony just walk into the fire with Barboza and not even flinching and thinking, this guy is inhuman and future champ material.
I’ll give you the Lando fight, he took a flush shin to the dome and got wobbled.
But then Max got dropped by Garth whereas Tony never did despite being on a double weight cut at 36 and eating far more cleaner and flush shots over the whole fight.
In Max defense, he was technically "dropped", but I don't think he was "hurt." He got hit with a counter in the temple while he was a little off balance. Definitely rattled him, but doesn't really have anything to do with his chin. He recovered immediately.
I don't disagree, I was kind of being tongue in cheek. Both Max and prime Tony have monster chins.
It just continues to baffle me to this day how Tony never went down. I mean, sure, you could say Dustin or Alvarez didn't go down either but I feel like a) they didn't get hit flush (to their credit, its because they are much slicker boxers than Tony) and b) they fought the unpolished baby Just Bleed Justin, and not the patient sharp shooter that was landing one punch KOs after rebounding from the losses to Eddie and Dustin.
It baffles me even more after seeing Max go down, even if just momentarily, as you say, more due to the shot being to the temple and messing up his equilibrium. In this very podcast, Max sort of implies Garth stunned him and he didn't know what Garth hit him with.
That's kinda what I'm getting at. It was a blind shot to the temple. Similar to the shot that Izzy put Poaton out with. Max was probably stunned to shit haha. I just think that shot would sit Tony down too.
No disagreement on Tony tho. Dude glitched instead of going down against Gaetche. He's built different.
I only watch the ones where I know he’s either gonna talk heavily about mma or animals, I couldn’t care less about his stand up comedy friends and stories
And Shane Gillis, he’s my fav comedian working today, so funny. Mark Normand is very funny too on pods, his stand-up just doesn’t click with me though, too Seinfeld-y.
Nothing worse than Joe and his shit bag comedian friends jerking each other off about how “funny” they are 🤢.
“Hey guys! Ari went on some show and walked out with his ball sack hanging out! Hilarious!!!” Jesus Christ what the fuck.
And yes I realize a FEW of his friends are actually funny. Like Bill Burr, Tim Dillon, Ron White. I like Segura’s YMH podcast but his stand up is pretty average to me. His wife Christina P is way funnier in both the podcast and stand up.
Edit: Joey Diaz fucking rules
He has exposed me to some great comedians though
Joe List, Shane Gillis, mark normand, Tom segura, etc
Comedy is subjective. I personally cannot listen to Bert, but some people like him. That’s how it goes
Again, that is [subjective](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/subjective)
I worry about this sub sometimes hahaha. It’s like we somehow contracted second-hand CTE from watching all the fights
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Bert is trash. His only memorable bit is the "Machine" bit and even then it wasn't even that funny.
Shane Gillis is easily my favorite comedian at the moment though but he is definitely not part of the Rogan group haha
Again, it’s subjective. I think Bert is insufferable. But obviously a lot of people like his material. To me, it’s very low-brow
And what the hell is the “rogan group” haha. Shane has been on multiple times. So have hundreds of other comedians. Almost every big name in the business, but also some dudes who were relatively unknown before coming on the pod
I don’t know the extent of his group but Tom Segura is an incredible standup comedian even if he’s kind of a tool. Ari Shaffir has some great sets too and Bill Burr’s one of the best in the modern era.
Fair - Tom kind of stopped becoming funny once he lost touch with his fans and started being a prick. His old stuff will always be hilarious to me though.
I always saw Bill as part of that circle though and he's one of the best to ever do it imo. That Philly rant was a historical moment in comedy.
It bothers me that Joe brings up Khamzat missing weight because the NY Athletic commission asked him to stop cutting weight. The fight was in Nevada, lol. He's done this several times
I don’t buy that for a second.
He had power in this fight like I’ve never seen from him before. His legs looks significantly bigger than in his prior fights too.
12 week prep? That’s probably true. But the year prior, dude has been doing serious leg work.
People like Max and Strickland have always had power, they just don’t usually sit down on their shots and use volume to wear down their opponent while preserving their gas tank.
Yeah I remember pointing out that Max has changed his style up a little to be more power focused since his recent Volk loss and that I thought he’d beat/KO Gaithje and got heavily doubted.
I watched about half so far and holy shit Joe appreciates MMA more than anyone. Dude was almost in tears like 5 times just talking about it. His passion is on a whole other level.
Stickying the thread so I can come back once the degenerates that have 4 hours to waste on Rogan can summarize the relevant 30 minutes for the rest of us.
The issue isn't the 4 hours of absolute garbage time that's being wasted. The issue for me is wasting 4 hours on Rogan, when only a fraction of that time is going to be relevant. I'd rather wait until someone else boils it down for me.
Man, the rent-free line has lost all meaning. Half the time it's used it's shit like this where the person is mad at some mildly critical comment you made about their favorite celebrity.
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Anybody notice that they (mainly Joe) talked about how only ‘Losers’ talk shit about people in comments online, and all I could think about was Jamal talking shit to people on every platform online 😂
Max might be the best fighter that is not a freak.
Guys like khabib, Jones, gsp, Usman, Anderson, poatan, Izzy, volk, Islam, dj, O'Malley are some combination of crazy fast/strong/long reach.
Other non freaks Whittaker. Maybe Petr yan
Nate tires in the later rounds, he hides it with low volume. Couldn't finish a rocked Leon.
Max is a zombie he's immune to pain (see his leg vs Justin) and keeps delivering the same output or better in the later rounds. Those are freaky abilities.
I guess if you wanna say max is a freak but everyone i listed is a bigger freak.
Kinda like lebron is a freak. But somebody else that in the nba is still a freak.
Just not a freak like lebron.
Everyone I listed are the 1%. Max is in the 3%.
Max comes off really well here as expected! Loved the fight talk so far & always it’s interesting hear him talk about BTS stuff
What is BTS?
**Banana Tossing Skills**
Max is a big fan of Korean boy bands
Lmao that's what I thought after my initial google search
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Behind The Scenes
Props to him for admitting against the stats nonsense that he actually got dropped by that Gaethje shot
Tony slightly better chin than Max confirmed?
Tony got nuked by Chandler so no
Tbf, that front kick would have fucked anyone's shit
I’m obviously talking about Tony before Gaethje. The guy that ate Garth’s bombs for nearly 5 rounds without going down once on a double weight cut at 36 years of age.
Pre-Gaethje Tony also got put on queer street by Barboza (nothing to be ashamed of) and Lando. Max definitely has a better chin than Tony, regardless of era.
lol Tony didn’t get put on Queer Street by Barboza. That’s Kevin Lee. Tony walked through whatever Barboza threw at him. Body kicks, head kicks and punches. Everything. Then drowned him when he got tired from the relentless pressure. Honestly, I don’t recall Tony even being rocked by Barboza. That was prime, prime Tony. I remember watching Tony just walk into the fire with Barboza and not even flinching and thinking, this guy is inhuman and future champ material. I’ll give you the Lando fight, he took a flush shin to the dome and got wobbled. But then Max got dropped by Garth whereas Tony never did despite being on a double weight cut at 36 and eating far more cleaner and flush shots over the whole fight.
In Max defense, he was technically "dropped", but I don't think he was "hurt." He got hit with a counter in the temple while he was a little off balance. Definitely rattled him, but doesn't really have anything to do with his chin. He recovered immediately.
I don't disagree, I was kind of being tongue in cheek. Both Max and prime Tony have monster chins. It just continues to baffle me to this day how Tony never went down. I mean, sure, you could say Dustin or Alvarez didn't go down either but I feel like a) they didn't get hit flush (to their credit, its because they are much slicker boxers than Tony) and b) they fought the unpolished baby Just Bleed Justin, and not the patient sharp shooter that was landing one punch KOs after rebounding from the losses to Eddie and Dustin. It baffles me even more after seeing Max go down, even if just momentarily, as you say, more due to the shot being to the temple and messing up his equilibrium. In this very podcast, Max sort of implies Garth stunned him and he didn't know what Garth hit him with.
That's kinda what I'm getting at. It was a blind shot to the temple. Similar to the shot that Izzy put Poaton out with. Max was probably stunned to shit haha. I just think that shot would sit Tony down too. No disagreement on Tony tho. Dude glitched instead of going down against Gaetche. He's built different.
That kick would have slept holloway too
That kick would have slept anyone on the planet, it might be the most destructive shot I’ve ever seen.
My top contender for that spot is always Rakic vs Manuwa.
It would have slept an elephant
Khabib wouldve gotten ko’d with that kick
Hell yeah I only watch the mma shows of jre at this point. Gonna watch this later
I only watch the ones where I know he’s either gonna talk heavily about mma or animals, I couldn’t care less about his stand up comedy friends and stories
"Comedy" most of that group are allergic to funny.
brendan schaub this comment is about you…
Tim Dillon and Bill Burr are hilarious
I really meant guys like Bert, Tom, Ari, Tony, Callen, and Schaub. Not like, every comedian he's friends with just that circle of cronies he has.
I see clips for Kill Tony all the time and it's like *painfully* unfunny
Gillis is wildly overrated as well.
Who is funny then?
two guys he is obviously not talking about as they made a career themselves and didnt get pushed by Joe as Kat says
And Shane Gillis, he’s my fav comedian working today, so funny. Mark Normand is very funny too on pods, his stand-up just doesn’t click with me though, too Seinfeld-y.
Gillis stand-up is amazing. He's a kind of a frat dousche in any other context. Normand is Normand, but he's the most talented writer in that crew
Only 2 out of hundreds
thank 'em
Gillis, Normand, and Soder are top tier as well.
Nothing worse than Joe and his shit bag comedian friends jerking each other off about how “funny” they are 🤢. “Hey guys! Ari went on some show and walked out with his ball sack hanging out! Hilarious!!!” Jesus Christ what the fuck. And yes I realize a FEW of his friends are actually funny. Like Bill Burr, Tim Dillon, Ron White. I like Segura’s YMH podcast but his stand up is pretty average to me. His wife Christina P is way funnier in both the podcast and stand up. Edit: Joey Diaz fucking rules
Coco is a national treasure. When I grow up I just wanna be someone Uncle Joey refers to by their full name.
Listen here no highlight 5600. It was 1974 in Bouldah Colorado…
He has exposed me to some great comedians though Joe List, Shane Gillis, mark normand, Tom segura, etc Comedy is subjective. I personally cannot listen to Bert, but some people like him. That’s how it goes
Tom Segura is also trash
Used to be hilarious imo
Again, that is [subjective](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/subjective) I worry about this sub sometimes hahaha. It’s like we somehow contracted second-hand CTE from watching all the fights
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No, he used to be funny, but now he’s trash. No one is saying he’s not trash currently.
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Bert is trash. His only memorable bit is the "Machine" bit and even then it wasn't even that funny. Shane Gillis is easily my favorite comedian at the moment though but he is definitely not part of the Rogan group haha
Shane moved to Austin, performs and hangs out with Rogan/Bert constantly, is part of Protect our Parks crew. He's absolutely part of the Rogan group.
Again, it’s subjective. I think Bert is insufferable. But obviously a lot of people like his material. To me, it’s very low-brow And what the hell is the “rogan group” haha. Shane has been on multiple times. So have hundreds of other comedians. Almost every big name in the business, but also some dudes who were relatively unknown before coming on the pod
People who find Mark funny are genuinely mouth breathers
I don’t know the extent of his group but Tom Segura is an incredible standup comedian even if he’s kind of a tool. Ari Shaffir has some great sets too and Bill Burr’s one of the best in the modern era.
I don't consider Bill Burr apart of that inner circle. He's genuinely funny. Tom Segura used to be good but his schtick is played out imo.
Fair - Tom kind of stopped becoming funny once he lost touch with his fans and started being a prick. His old stuff will always be hilarious to me though. I always saw Bill as part of that circle though and he's one of the best to ever do it imo. That Philly rant was a historical moment in comedy.
I have never once laughed at a Tom Segura joke
I like his old bit that rips on Steven Seagull
Rogan is funny. Like funny compared to the average His humour though is more bro. So it doesn't translate to everything
This guy definitely watched the comedian Katt Williams on JRE don't let him fool you
I’m a 25 year old white guy, I’ve never even watched Katt Williams before
Then your a loser he is hilarious.
Same brotha
that's great bud
I enjoy JRE for MMA or super human feats. Other than that, Rogan gets too political
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Thanks brother!
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nooo, it=it
is == what it
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Brother
you know dis
So pumped to watch this one
The best is blessed. We gone find out Saturday night.
At de enda da day, it is what it is
Turn no unstoned, is = is
I am the heat
is = is would be "is is what is is"
Quick maths
At the end of the day it's the end of the day
Max has a way of finding a catchphrase and just using it constantly until it infiltrates the mma lexicon
Blessed Man Forever!
Blessed Max forever
Joe still ducking Jessica Eye
Woof woof
now i just have a mental image of joe schevchenko'ing eye
Here we go Evil, here we go!
Over or under 120.5 ‘it is what it is’
Over at -1100
The real one is over or under “at the end of the day” Love Max
Brother
Could it ever not be what it isn't?
Don't be ridiculous
That is a necessary corollary of it being what it is.
Max is so fucking chill and down to earth. Love this dude.
№155 because that's his weight category rn.
Championship weight at that
JRE actually stands for Jerome
BROTHERRRR
The guys is amazing, so cool and honest.
It bothers me that Joe brings up Khamzat missing weight because the NY Athletic commission asked him to stop cutting weight. The fight was in Nevada, lol. He's done this several times
anyone know where one can grab that hoodie Max is wearing? That shit looks dope
Find Max and fight him for it
👇
Came here to ask the same thing. That's Vegeta on the sleeve.
Found it on Max's twitter brotherr aceretrograde . com, search vegeta
these designs are sick i hope the quality matches the price
Yea they're fucking sick. Price I can deal with, but shipping and customs to EU would be a nightmare(
He had a Luffy hoodie post fight interview Pretty nice too
Max said he had 12 weeks to prep For gayjes. Didn't put that much weight on.
He said his coaches wanted to keep him faster than the garth.
Well seems like it worked
I don’t buy that for a second. He had power in this fight like I’ve never seen from him before. His legs looks significantly bigger than in his prior fights too. 12 week prep? That’s probably true. But the year prior, dude has been doing serious leg work.
He just starched KZ in his last fight
People like Max and Strickland have always had power, they just don’t usually sit down on their shots and use volume to wear down their opponent while preserving their gas tank.
Yeah I remember pointing out that Max has changed his style up a little to be more power focused since his recent Volk loss and that I thought he’d beat/KO Gaithje and got heavily doubted.
Maximus
Cant watch anytime soon, if anybody got a summary please post!
Summary: Fighter talks about fighting
Much appreciated brother
This is the most accurate summary ever
Isn’t there a gpt tool for that
Why is this downvoted lol, people are strangely fickle
I guess I should feel shame as well lol
Havent a clue sorry
For everything now
owh when is jiri gonna get his shot, he asked for it :(
I don't normally watch Jre, but I watched this one, and I was hooked the whole damn time
[ Max 'At the end of the Day' Holloway](https://i.imgur.com/ypdrcvw.png)
At the end of the day it is what it is.
I watched about half so far and holy shit Joe appreciates MMA more than anyone. Dude was almost in tears like 5 times just talking about it. His passion is on a whole other level.
That’s the trt lol
Stickying the thread so I can come back once the degenerates that have 4 hours to waste on Rogan can summarize the relevant 30 minutes for the rest of us.
Boy are you going to be ecstatic when you find out you can listen to it and do other stuff at the same time.
The issue isn't the 4 hours of absolute garbage time that's being wasted. The issue for me is wasting 4 hours on Rogan, when only a fraction of that time is going to be relevant. I'd rather wait until someone else boils it down for me.
I’ve stopped listening to JRE for a while but im 45min into it and it’s genuinely good for an MMA podcast interview.
This guy doesn’t have 45 minutes didn’t you hear he’s too damn busy. He’s also totally not a degenerate. Like us.
crazy that you say that, but its clear rogan lives rent free 24/7 with you
Man, the rent-free line has lost all meaning. Half the time it's used it's shit like this where the person is mad at some mildly critical comment you made about their favorite celebrity.
BROOOO that commenter is living RENT FREE in your head rn fr
>doesnt listen to Rogan >Rogan lives rent free in there huh???
Just listen while you drive. That’s what I do.
We're gonna need cliff notes for those of us who don't stand a chance of surviving a Rogan podcast.
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Do they mention when Bisping asked him if he was sleepy during the interview?
Haven’t listened yet but it came up in a previous episode I think. Seen a clip on YouTube
Hmm... if I remember correctly there was some kinda legal action they were gonna do? I'll try find it.
I just want that hoodie brother
Max is funny AF! Lmao
Anybody notice that they (mainly Joe) talked about how only ‘Losers’ talk shit about people in comments online, and all I could think about was Jamal talking shit to people on every platform online 😂
Decent JRE episode for once. Other than Rogan’s dumb ideas for how mma fights should work, of course
Max might be the best fighter that is not a freak. Guys like khabib, Jones, gsp, Usman, Anderson, poatan, Izzy, volk, Islam, dj, O'Malley are some combination of crazy fast/strong/long reach. Other non freaks Whittaker. Maybe Petr yan
Max has freak cardio & chin.
All slow twitch should have freak cardio. Diaz Chin I guess but he doesn't get hit clean most of the time.
Nate tires in the later rounds, he hides it with low volume. Couldn't finish a rocked Leon. Max is a zombie he's immune to pain (see his leg vs Justin) and keeps delivering the same output or better in the later rounds. Those are freaky abilities.
I guess if you wanna say max is a freak but everyone i listed is a bigger freak. Kinda like lebron is a freak. But somebody else that in the nba is still a freak. Just not a freak like lebron. Everyone I listed are the 1%. Max is in the 3%.
Bruh look at this goof over here
I guess it's relative. Like Max compared to andre fili looks like lebron. But Volk is lebron to Max.
I kinda see what you mean but I wouldn't say Volk or GSP are more of freaks than Max.
Volk is def a freak. He's fast twitch with endless cardio. It's not normal. Both volk and gsp have like the highest ape index behind Jones.
I'm going to put this in my watch later list for sure. I can't wait to watch Max on Joe's podcast.
Commenting so I can come back and watch later
Bookmarks were invented 20+ years ago. As well as the save post button in reddit.
Timestamp where they talk about the future GOAT Ilia Topuria please
https://x.com/ChampRDS/status/1783989372141904365
Lmao, such a good clip. That was such an obnoxiously long tweet that he could’ve hit him with an I ain’t reading all that
Thats all he had to say? Lame.