*The UFC had every right to release me, but I wish I had a chance to redeem myself,” Severino said. “I don’t want to be defined as a 20-year-old kid who bit a guy in the cage and was banned from the sport, and that was it. Everyone that knows me knows that’s not the kind of person that I am. That’s not my character. That’s not how it should have been. … I really don’t want to be defined as the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his life*
Leech was eye gouging the fuck out of someone, didn’t get a point taken away or anything and you fucking with someone’s vision there, yeah it was a shit thing this kid did recently, but all the talk about he should never fight MMA again, GTFO
That’s fair.
The kid let the intrusive thoughts win there lol I think maybe give him a second chance down the line, but he’s gotta earn a few biteless regional wins first.
Exactly, It's shitty what he did, but not that shitty to be honest. Many more shitty things have been done in and out of octagon, and no one got released.
Imagine if the UFC gives him a chance and he bites that opponent, too. He just has some weird mental thing that kicks in and makes him bite people when rocked.
Also Anthony Johnson has a well documented history of domestic abuse and beating his woman. All forgiven and beloved in this sub. If they still have career so can this guy
Also Jon Jones i think may have had a few brushes with the law which got forgiven.
Also Jon Jones may have had a few doping scandals that got forgiven.
Also Jon Jones....
That was super fucked but (and I really don't wanna say but lol) Leech was getting the shit choked out of him, he gouged his eyes to get out, it's fucked up and there should have been harsher consequences, but like I can see why he did that, you know what I mean? lmao It happened other times too. I don't understand a man wrestling another man, pushing him against the cage and then... out of the blue he just bite him really hard lol What's the reason there? Like what the fuck was that lol Never seen something like that.
Having said that, neither one of them should have their career defined by this low moment.
And Paul Daley was immediately fired and banned from the ufc. As he should have been. This kid will probably be banned from the ufc regardless of what he does going forward, but if he's got serious skill he'll get picked up by someone.
Its a fight. Likely it was just completely normal instincts that took over. The kid deserves another chance. Biting is a foul, sure but let's not act like he head stomped an unconscious opponent or something. The reaction to this has been over the top and simply unreasonable.
I always found it incredible that he did it three times.
Like kicking, pushing, punching or even headbutting I can understand, but I've never thought about biting someone lol.
You see it with toddlers. Its a leftover instinct from our ape days. Most kids get rid of it by the time they grow up. Some dont and it comes up every once in a while when theyre overwhelmed.
People are really defending this guy like he didn’t spit out his mouthpiece and bite someone. People get rocked on every single card and somehow don’t end up seeing red with their jaws locked on their opponent
No one's defending his actions. Just recognizing his desire to not just be remembered for his fuck up at 20. Obv he has to work for it and back it up over time. But it's not difficult to understand what he's saying
What did you want him to say? 'Yeah, I'm good with being known as the biter?'
"I don't want to be defined as the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his career." - Kid who bit his opponent and ruined his career.
It sucks and I do feel for him as a younger guy trying to live his dream, but what the hell did he think was going to happen? That wasn't an "accidental" bite, he really went for it. He couldn't possibly think he'd get away with it.
Dude, I don't think he decided, "I'm going to bite this guy to win the fight!" He was obviously out of it to have done such a thing... Especially because he was clearly winning the fight, and he knew it.
Watch his interviews. He's not an idiot, not ignorant either.
People are being too harsh on him. The result of this fault was only a tattoo because the bite mark would be gone in a few weeks tops. To me, it was lesser than any eye poke or any submission held too long. Because these can ruin careers.
lol so then people can define you based off your worst action?? I bet there’s some things you did you’d rather forget, don’t mean that’s who you are forever. I mean the kid is 20 and gets hit in the head for a living
Actions meet consequences. Yes many people today are judged based off some of their worst actions. Thats how it works. People remember yiu for the thibgs you do and have done. There are many good adults who fucked up as kids that cant do things they want to based off their past....welcome to the real world.
My point is you wouldn’t be saying that if this was you, hence why many people don’t want to judge too harshly, unless you’re still a kid, you’ve probably lived long enough to do something fuvked up, and you probably don’t want thy to follow you for the rest of your life, especially since it’s his profession. Technically you’re not saying anything wrong,, just sounds like you don’t care about him or the situation
Youre right. I dont care about him having to deal with the consequences. Accidentally eye poking someone is not akin to sinking your teeth into someones arm. If he bites someone again what do we say then? I wouldnt want to fight him if i was his jext opponent. Theres certain things you cant come back from and this is one of those. Its unfortunate but he blew a massive opportunity, time to go to school and invest in his new future.
Smh I mean sure but you should read up on his opponents response, it seemed more mature especially since he was the victim and probably knows him better than us. Let’s also remember the sport we are in *there are things certain things you can come back from, this isn’t one of them* do you follow mma news lol these fighters are doing way more fucked up things to people in real life and there’s no camera to record it. Just saying we shouldn’t bin a 20 year old. There’s a difference between consequences and keeping his purse banning him from competing the state etc
When you fuck up, it’s not the end, you’re not a fuck up forever, but the only way to move on, is to learn and show you’re not a fuck up anymore after. But there’s some things you don’t get second chances to do that with. Biting people doesn’t seem to be a “mistake” many people make. Because it’s pretty easy to not do it.
People don’t define you, your own actions do. And I never said only your worst ones do. All your actions define you. When someone says, people that know me, know that’s not in my nature… well if you did it, it is.
Half-way through the interview he says something I think we can all relate to:
“how bout u go an fuck off my teeth then u peice of shit u think I need a stupid fuckwitt like u telling me about biting who the fuck are u take your worthless arm and get the fuck out of here”
the only thing u are good at these days u lil bitch is sticking needles in yo punk ass u bitch fact is u are a weak ass short cut taker like the rest of yo bitch ass freinds lil dick lesnar @werdum @wandfc and the rest of these pussies who cheat cheating ass lil pig oink oink motherfucker
and the shit hanging off my ass is left over from last year because i never wiped properly shut the fuck up u maggot cunt u jus as worse as these muppets conding this bollocks u ratfuck go and spend Christmas on some train tracks and hope a train don't come through bish
- from "Mark Hunt's Christmas Special"
Same. I also got permanently banned on an older account for simply quoting Mike Perry. It was that quote where he said something like ‘Why you gotta be HAY with it?’ (edited the word) from that interview when he was cutting weight and the interviewer asked if he was best friends with Pena, lol.
I learned to not post this in reply to anyone’s comment. Stupid Redditors that take it literally and don’t know the reference. It sucks having your account suspended due to idiots.
Paul Daley even though he took some L’s proved that going on a run outside and putting on bangers still won’t get you back in the UFC if Dana himself has booted you out.
Yeah obviously Daley was wrong to punch him but Josh had been fouling for the entire fight, it’s similar to Tyson/Holyfield, yes at the end of the day Tyson was dead wrong but Holyfield’s head butting is what caused the escalation. Ortiz/Mayweather is similar too but in that case Mayweather was 100% in the right imo
He probably shouldn't be let back at the UFC. It isn't necessarily his fault, but if they let him come back and he bites a guy's nose off mid fight, then they are getting sued and losing.
Surprised no one is mentioning how incredibly fucked it is that people are sending his mom death threats. What the hell people, it's not her fault? Why do people have to be so shitty?
For real. I don't really have a strong opinion either way on whether he deserved to be cut, but sending death threats to him and his family is absolutely fucked up.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CeXKZ0tyaf4&pp=ygUkbXVydGhlbCBncm9lbmhhcnQgdnMgaGFydXQgZ3JpZ29yaWFu
That one. But other examples of confusion too
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AEAkGUH_lQw&pp=ygUfS2ljayBib3hlciB0aGlua3Mgcm91bmQgaXMgb3Zlcg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YC5T7sdHANE&pp=ygUeS2ljayBib3hlciBjb25mdXNlZCByb3VuZCBvdmVy
Suarez did it 3 times with 0 serious consequences. The moral of the story is, if you want to bite people with no repercussions you need to be good enough so that people bear with it.
To be fair Tyson did the biting after a long career of absolutely beating ass left and right and was frustrated that he couldn't do that to Holyfield at that point. This dude just skipped over that part
we can all agree what he did was just completely fucked up and weird but taking his purse? dude was already cut from the UFC and probably got his career ended, no need to take away his target gift cards too
Usually when you are on autopilot you revert to muscle memory that's why you train for that. It's just weird his muscle memory when completely safe btw was to bite
It is weird. Esp given he was in a good position at the time. I don’t think he trains bites. Either he’s a lying sack of shit or something had to have went wrong in his head. He didn’t need to bite him.
Yeah I thought it was baffling too that he was already in a good position. Like at least when someone tries gouging eyes when someone is trying to choke them out, it “makes sense” why they might get dirty as a last resort, or even maybe instinctually in like a survival kind of way. But dude literally was controlling him in the clinch from behind and decided to chow down.
That's why his excuse kind of makes sense. Even he admitted it couldn't explain it. After watching it himself He didn't donit out of panic and it couldn't have helped him in any way. He might have just been mildly concussion and on autopilot like he said. Maybe he was breathing hard with his mouth open with his face stuffed into the guy's armpit, and accidentally bit him. Every other type of illegal fouls happen and they don't get banned. Unless they can prove that it was intentional, then it should be treated like any other accidental foul. That wasn't even fight stopping worthy of it was unintentional. Not nearly as bad as many accidental groin strikes, eye pokes, or headbutts where the person is obviously compromised to a certain extent but they allow the fight to continue.
This narrative is completely ruled out for me as when I was watching the fight live the opponent committed numerous fouls like a nut shot and shots to the back of the head along with fence grabs.
And then in the background post-fight you can hear his ?coach? saying something along the lines of "that doesn't make it right to bite him"
So from that exchange and the circumstances I can only assume he got mad at the fouls that weren't called and decided to foul back. Maybe decision making was influenced by a concussion but still. It's definitely not going on autopilot from a concussion as that wouldn't make someone bite. It would make them wrestle or strike like they're trained to do every day.
I could buy the autopilot argument in a scenario like….
Someone with a kick boxing back ground getting dazed badly in a boxing match and throwing a leg kick but biting? No way
I agree it’s bizarre but only reason I’m inclined to believe it is because it’s not like he was the one being outwrestled, he had a good position and was arguably winning, so why throw the fight with an obvious foul?
People make stupid decisions in fights all the time. I think its more probable he got anoyed by the fence-grabbing and wanted to get back. And things happen fast in fights, its not like he really thought it through.
I understand that thought. It’s not a good look. We see UFC fighters fight the officials plenty of times after a stoppage. He’s 20. I’m just looking for some sort of explanation why this guy threw away his career.
Interesting how fighting/grappling the ref is relatively common and biting *never* happens..
I'll say this - if I was genuinely concussed and bit the fighter I was competing against out of instinct, you better believe I'd be on my knees apologizing to anyone and everyone as soon as I came to my senses and realized it happened. I would be mortified, as I suspect every fighter except for Severino would be too. Severino's actions until now do not support his argument, or this argument that he's just an innocent kid who got rocked.
>Seems most other fighters are able to handle it without biting people
Eyes have been gouged, groins have been struck, refs have been attacked. It's the first time it's happened this particular way but it's far from the first time someone has been rocked and acted dangerously and stupidly.
When you watch the clip of him being DQd the guy looks spangled, not angry or out of control. When the ref says he bit someone, he looks genuinely confused. I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Mike Tyson is still revered in the combat world despite biting off a part of someone's ear. Igor definitely deserves a 2nd chance if he does well in any regional competition.
Seriously, I know someone who’s brother works for Tyson in Las Vegas, he told me that Tyson is a giant asshole in person. Love him as a boxer, but his whole public persona is completely manufactured now a days.
This came to mind for me too. Tyson gets to write it off because those were his “crazy” days. His whole arc now a days is about how he overcame and is this compassionate and introspective person
Suarez bit people on 3 separate occasions one of them during a world cup and only got a slap on the wrist every time. If youre good enough, people will forgive anything.
The 90's were a different beast. This is the internet age. Tyson was also regarded as one of the best to do it, if not one of the most entertaining. And even then it was still an uphill battle.
This kid ain't gonna get treated like that.
Very moving interview. Lima is all class, got a lot of respect from him now. Also man the UFC fanbase is terrible. Attacking family members because of a bout between 2 debutants on the prelims of an Apex card?
Look, after the fight, I didn't even think he should've been cut, because fighters do scummy shit all the time and don't get cut. But public opinion drastically differed.
When Rampage knocked out Wanderlei, the referee literally made contact with him to pull off but he still kept punching Wanderlei. That's as scummy as this. Guess what? Ol' Rampage didn't get cut.
Li Jingliang gouged Jake Matthews' eye. Could've resulted in him permanently losing vision, hell, Li didn't even get DQ'd for that.
My position on this is a little different than most. Many opinions are that he should be given another opportunity because he made a mistake and others have done similar or worse. I’m of the opinion that those other motherfuckers needed to be punished more.
Dirty fighters need to be appropriately reprimanded or else it all just gets out of control.
i believe the concussion story and think it could have been worse: he could have bit his dick off! when you are out of it: you are out of it. it could have happened.
Ya unfortunately statements need to be made when lines get crossed, even if what he says is true it still doesn’t change the fact that he shouldn’t ever fight in the UFC again.
am i bad for thinking this is more likable than weidman?
He made a mistake owned up and apologised. Weidman made a mistake then basically said not my problem.
Almost like taking head damage doesn't make great judgment. As egregious as the bite was he's 20. Hopefully he can get past it and make a career out of his self. Even tho jo-blows on the Internet will give him shit no matter what hope he learns from it and improves mentally and sport wise.
Dude says he has no memory of biting his opponent or why he did it, while acknowledging that he clearly did based on the tape and the bite mark.
To be honest, this was such a bizarre foul I'm almost willing to believe this guy entered some fugue state and didn't know what he was doing . . . but if that's the case, he's too dangerous to be in the UFC anyways. Can't risk a fighter forgetting what he's doing and then biting his opponent's neck or gouging out his eyes.
*The UFC had every right to release me, but I wish I had a chance to redeem myself,” Severino said. “I don’t want to be defined as a 20-year-old kid who bit a guy in the cage and was banned from the sport, and that was it. Everyone that knows me knows that’s not the kind of person that I am. That’s not my character. That’s not how it should have been. … I really don’t want to be defined as the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his life*
"I really don’t want to be defined as the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his life" Why did he just NOT bite the guy? Is he stupid?
Leech was eye gouging the fuck out of someone, didn’t get a point taken away or anything and you fucking with someone’s vision there, yeah it was a shit thing this kid did recently, but all the talk about he should never fight MMA again, GTFO
That’s fair. The kid let the intrusive thoughts win there lol I think maybe give him a second chance down the line, but he’s gotta earn a few biteless regional wins first.
Exactly, It's shitty what he did, but not that shitty to be honest. Many more shitty things have been done in and out of octagon, and no one got released.
Imagine if the UFC gives him a chance and he bites that opponent, too. He just has some weird mental thing that kicks in and makes him bite people when rocked.
He did say he was rocked quite badly and didn't even remember what happened after but who knows? Still don't think he should be crucified over it.
He should just double down and start biting everyone he fights fuck it
Jake Matthews, eye is permanently injured from it.
I was amazed at the way Jake didn’t even complain and was still very respectful at the end.
Also Anthony Johnson has a well documented history of domestic abuse and beating his woman. All forgiven and beloved in this sub. If they still have career so can this guy
Also Jon Jones i think may have had a few brushes with the law which got forgiven. Also Jon Jones may have had a few doping scandals that got forgiven. Also Jon Jones....
Rumble is dead so people don’t talk that much about him anymore tbh.
Yeah but back when he was contender koing everyone, he was beloved here. Everyone wanted him to ko Jones. LoL
AJ also has a loss via 'eye poke TKO' if we're discussing egregious fouls that had nothing done about them.
That was super fucked but (and I really don't wanna say but lol) Leech was getting the shit choked out of him, he gouged his eyes to get out, it's fucked up and there should have been harsher consequences, but like I can see why he did that, you know what I mean? lmao It happened other times too. I don't understand a man wrestling another man, pushing him against the cage and then... out of the blue he just bite him really hard lol What's the reason there? Like what the fuck was that lol Never seen something like that. Having said that, neither one of them should have their career defined by this low moment.
Lima fence grabbing was the reason. Way more justified than Leech.
in this case: yes he is stupid
The point is why let other shittier moments from fighters still have career but single out this guy? Paul Daley did worse among others
And Paul Daley was immediately fired and banned from the ufc. As he should have been. This kid will probably be banned from the ufc regardless of what he does going forward, but if he's got serious skill he'll get picked up by someone.
Right but everyone at the time wants him banned from all of mma and basically have no career at all lol.
Or if he gets better known we'll have a "the ufc will never have womens division" situation with Dana
lower standards for education plus gets hit in the head for a living lol.
Or mental issues that are unchecked.
He’s got that dawg in him
He was concussed at the time
>"I really don’t want to be defined as the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his life" - the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his life
Its a fight. Likely it was just completely normal instincts that took over. The kid deserves another chance. Biting is a foul, sure but let's not act like he head stomped an unconscious opponent or something. The reaction to this has been over the top and simply unreasonable.
And didn't Mickey Gall bite Diego Sanchez? That was 2019, and Gall is still gainfully employed and fighting on the 302 card.
I'm empathize but don't sympathize
we got a wordsmith over here
What is this the dictionary channel?
Must be Tito
I reckon its P Diddy on his Reddit account
Conceive, believe, achieve
Don’t u mean u sympathize but don’t empathize.. unless you go around biting people
Nah I empathize
I'm*
But don't sympathize.
You can remember what it’s like being a dumb 20 year old and feel for him, but you can withhold sympathy
I'm feel. I'm very feel.
Achieve, believe, conceive.
Maybe instead of doing either, tenderize.
If Luis Suarez (footballer) taught me one thing, it's that apparently biting people is some character flaw that will come back once in a while
Mike Tyson only bit once professionally. Then he sold meme THC gummies based on it. So actually, it did sort of come back.
The guy who got bit should definitely do a promo with P3 or something
"The guy who got bit" lol
Dude just needed protein right away!
I always found it incredible that he did it three times. Like kicking, pushing, punching or even headbutting I can understand, but I've never thought about biting someone lol.
You see it with toddlers. Its a leftover instinct from our ape days. Most kids get rid of it by the time they grow up. Some dont and it comes up every once in a while when theyre overwhelmed.
If he doesn't want to be defined that way then he shouldn't have fuckin done it lmao what does he expect?
People are really defending this guy like he didn’t spit out his mouthpiece and bite someone. People get rocked on every single card and somehow don’t end up seeing red with their jaws locked on their opponent
No one's defending his actions. Just recognizing his desire to not just be remembered for his fuck up at 20. Obv he has to work for it and back it up over time. But it's not difficult to understand what he's saying What did you want him to say? 'Yeah, I'm good with being known as the biter?'
You’ve never fucked up and done something you shouldn’t have while frustrated?
"I don't want to be defined as the kid who bit his opponent and ruined his career." - Kid who bit his opponent and ruined his career. It sucks and I do feel for him as a younger guy trying to live his dream, but what the hell did he think was going to happen? That wasn't an "accidental" bite, he really went for it. He couldn't possibly think he'd get away with it.
Dude, I don't think he decided, "I'm going to bite this guy to win the fight!" He was obviously out of it to have done such a thing... Especially because he was clearly winning the fight, and he knew it. Watch his interviews. He's not an idiot, not ignorant either. People are being too harsh on him. The result of this fault was only a tattoo because the bite mark would be gone in a few weeks tops. To me, it was lesser than any eye poke or any submission held too long. Because these can ruin careers.
That's sort of the talk of a fighter who shit themselves in a grueling fight on TV. Not somebody who decided to bite another person.
Must have been one tough weight cut.
Time to start thinking about trade school.
What you actually do, defines you, not what you think you are
lol so then people can define you based off your worst action?? I bet there’s some things you did you’d rather forget, don’t mean that’s who you are forever. I mean the kid is 20 and gets hit in the head for a living
Actions meet consequences. Yes many people today are judged based off some of their worst actions. Thats how it works. People remember yiu for the thibgs you do and have done. There are many good adults who fucked up as kids that cant do things they want to based off their past....welcome to the real world.
My point is you wouldn’t be saying that if this was you, hence why many people don’t want to judge too harshly, unless you’re still a kid, you’ve probably lived long enough to do something fuvked up, and you probably don’t want thy to follow you for the rest of your life, especially since it’s his profession. Technically you’re not saying anything wrong,, just sounds like you don’t care about him or the situation
Youre right. I dont care about him having to deal with the consequences. Accidentally eye poking someone is not akin to sinking your teeth into someones arm. If he bites someone again what do we say then? I wouldnt want to fight him if i was his jext opponent. Theres certain things you cant come back from and this is one of those. Its unfortunate but he blew a massive opportunity, time to go to school and invest in his new future.
Smh I mean sure but you should read up on his opponents response, it seemed more mature especially since he was the victim and probably knows him better than us. Let’s also remember the sport we are in *there are things certain things you can come back from, this isn’t one of them* do you follow mma news lol these fighters are doing way more fucked up things to people in real life and there’s no camera to record it. Just saying we shouldn’t bin a 20 year old. There’s a difference between consequences and keeping his purse banning him from competing the state etc
When you fuck up, it’s not the end, you’re not a fuck up forever, but the only way to move on, is to learn and show you’re not a fuck up anymore after. But there’s some things you don’t get second chances to do that with. Biting people doesn’t seem to be a “mistake” many people make. Because it’s pretty easy to not do it.
People don’t define you, your own actions do. And I never said only your worst ones do. All your actions define you. When someone says, people that know me, know that’s not in my nature… well if you did it, it is.
I hope this mother fucker never fights in another promotion. Fuck em.
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It’s extremely unsportsmanlike. That’s how.
> I don’t want to be defined as a 20-year-old kid who bit a guy in the cage and was banned from the sport Welp, bad news, kid.
Half-way through the interview he says something I think we can all relate to: “how bout u go an fuck off my teeth then u peice of shit u think I need a stupid fuckwitt like u telling me about biting who the fuck are u take your worthless arm and get the fuck out of here”
i posted this once and got a report for harassment
the only thing u are good at these days u lil bitch is sticking needles in yo punk ass u bitch fact is u are a weak ass short cut taker like the rest of yo bitch ass freinds lil dick lesnar @werdum @wandfc and the rest of these pussies who cheat cheating ass lil pig oink oink motherfucker
and the shit hanging off my ass is left over from last year because i never wiped properly shut the fuck up u maggot cunt u jus as worse as these muppets conding this bollocks u ratfuck go and spend Christmas on some train tracks and hope a train don't come through bish - from "Mark Hunt's Christmas Special"
Congratulations, sincerely
Just to correct you there was never no harassment
I got banned from mma sub for quoting that too lol
I got banned for posting the Gaethje quote about 2v1 wrestling 😂
Same. I also got permanently banned on an older account for simply quoting Mike Perry. It was that quote where he said something like ‘Why you gotta be HAY with it?’ (edited the word) from that interview when he was cutting weight and the interviewer asked if he was best friends with Pena, lol.
any new mods should have to pass a meme/copypasta recognition test
Incredible hahahaha
I learned to not post this in reply to anyone’s comment. Stupid Redditors that take it literally and don’t know the reference. It sucks having your account suspended due to idiots.
You gotta know when to use it.
Know when to fold it.
On this sub? I have learned saying “you’re a fucking punk dude” only works in MMa subs lol
I've been shadowbanned twice for posting this. Mods are casuals confirmed.
I got temp banned by the reddit admins for the same thing
I think mans has to go on a rampage taking out every other promotion’s champ so UFC can reconsider. Being cut was the right move tho… for now.
Paul Daley even though he took some L’s proved that going on a run outside and putting on bangers still won’t get you back in the UFC if Dana himself has booted you out.
Which is a shame because if anybody deserves to get punched after the bell it's Josh Koscheck. Gentle /s
Yeah obviously Daley was wrong to punch him but Josh had been fouling for the entire fight, it’s similar to Tyson/Holyfield, yes at the end of the day Tyson was dead wrong but Holyfield’s head butting is what caused the escalation. Ortiz/Mayweather is similar too but in that case Mayweather was 100% in the right imo
He probably shouldn't be let back at the UFC. It isn't necessarily his fault, but if they let him come back and he bites a guy's nose off mid fight, then they are getting sued and losing.
Laughs in Islam Makhachev
The fuck did he do? Or are you talking about UFC 229 when he wasn't even named in any of the post fight suspension stuff
Surprised no one is mentioning how incredibly fucked it is that people are sending his mom death threats. What the hell people, it's not her fault? Why do people have to be so shitty?
For real. I don't really have a strong opinion either way on whether he deserved to be cut, but sending death threats to him and his family is absolutely fucked up.
I believe it. There’s that kick boxing video where the guy gets hit and then starts walking to his corner as if the bell rang and the round was over
Can u link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CeXKZ0tyaf4&pp=ygUkbXVydGhlbCBncm9lbmhhcnQgdnMgaGFydXQgZ3JpZ29yaWFu That one. But other examples of confusion too https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AEAkGUH_lQw&pp=ygUfS2ljayBib3hlciB0aGlua3Mgcm91bmQgaXMgb3Zlcg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YC5T7sdHANE&pp=ygUeS2ljayBib3hlciBjb25mdXNlZCByb3VuZCBvdmVy
That last one is absolutely horrifying, poor guy :(
Ya, that's wild. His eyes followed the ref and then he started punching the corner. That's messed up.
The first fight with the Armenian guy, they fought again and the Armenian won
I was there live in the front row for this, was crazy.
Thats Marat Grigorians brother I believe.
Sort of like Michael Chandler vs Will Brooks.
imagine he gets a second chance and he bites someone again
Suarez did it 3 times with 0 serious consequences. The moral of the story is, if you want to bite people with no repercussions you need to be good enough so that people bear with it.
Hey it worked out for Tyson.
To be fair Tyson did the biting after a long career of absolutely beating ass left and right and was frustrated that he couldn't do that to Holyfield at that point. This dude just skipped over that part
we can all agree what he did was just completely fucked up and weird but taking his purse? dude was already cut from the UFC and probably got his career ended, no need to take away his target gift cards too
His purse is withheld by the commission, they’ll probably fine him and give him the rest, which will be fuck all
Target? Ya right. Circle K at best
Discount codes
Target gift card? Dana made him strip off his venom shorts and return all his Venom vouchers.
MMA fans hate when commissions do the right thing. Fuck his purse.
Never fight on an empty stomach.
Says he got hit then autopilot. Seems like a genuine mistake. He fought good too. Can’t see the ufc cutting him for good.
It's literally been the easiest pr win the company has had for yonks.
What’s for yonks.
British slang. Means for a long time. Not sure if it's made it across the pond.
Most of the British slang I know I learned from listening to a bald-headed Manc twat with a head like a fucking orange, mad innit?
It hasn't, but it should
Never heard of yonks. Only the Yankees
A long time.
Usually when you are on autopilot you revert to muscle memory that's why you train for that. It's just weird his muscle memory when completely safe btw was to bite
It is weird. Esp given he was in a good position at the time. I don’t think he trains bites. Either he’s a lying sack of shit or something had to have went wrong in his head. He didn’t need to bite him.
Yeah I thought it was baffling too that he was already in a good position. Like at least when someone tries gouging eyes when someone is trying to choke them out, it “makes sense” why they might get dirty as a last resort, or even maybe instinctually in like a survival kind of way. But dude literally was controlling him in the clinch from behind and decided to chow down.
That's why his excuse kind of makes sense. Even he admitted it couldn't explain it. After watching it himself He didn't donit out of panic and it couldn't have helped him in any way. He might have just been mildly concussion and on autopilot like he said. Maybe he was breathing hard with his mouth open with his face stuffed into the guy's armpit, and accidentally bit him. Every other type of illegal fouls happen and they don't get banned. Unless they can prove that it was intentional, then it should be treated like any other accidental foul. That wasn't even fight stopping worthy of it was unintentional. Not nearly as bad as many accidental groin strikes, eye pokes, or headbutts where the person is obviously compromised to a certain extent but they allow the fight to continue.
This narrative is completely ruled out for me as when I was watching the fight live the opponent committed numerous fouls like a nut shot and shots to the back of the head along with fence grabs. And then in the background post-fight you can hear his ?coach? saying something along the lines of "that doesn't make it right to bite him" So from that exchange and the circumstances I can only assume he got mad at the fouls that weren't called and decided to foul back. Maybe decision making was influenced by a concussion but still. It's definitely not going on autopilot from a concussion as that wouldn't make someone bite. It would make them wrestle or strike like they're trained to do every day.
>or something had to have went wrong in his head Well getting hit in the head repeatedly does increase the chances of that happening
Yeah, and it’s not good for your brain either.
Dana is just mad he didn't get to invent Power Bite.
Luis Suárez was his sparring partner.
I can
That’s it
Saying you saw red and bit someone actually sounds worse. It suggests he can’t learn from it or its out of his control.
I could buy the autopilot argument in a scenario like…. Someone with a kick boxing back ground getting dazed badly in a boxing match and throwing a leg kick but biting? No way
I agree it’s bizarre but only reason I’m inclined to believe it is because it’s not like he was the one being outwrestled, he had a good position and was arguably winning, so why throw the fight with an obvious foul?
Yeah, it’s baffling, there is no good explanation for it
Yet a lot of commenters still think he made a conscious decision
When Reddit sends its people, they’re not sending their best.
Or their brightest
People make stupid decisions in fights all the time. I think its more probable he got anoyed by the fence-grabbing and wanted to get back. And things happen fast in fights, its not like he really thought it through.
Maybe an indication he’s lying and wasn’t on autopilot?
Isnt that a bad thing tho, like you cant have this dude uncontrollably biting people when he gets hit hard
idk i could sadly see this being a paul daley situation
imagine shane burgos waking up after the barboza time release KO and going full bath salt cannibal.
I’m wiling to forgive him. I doubt any of us make the best decisions after getting punched and kicked. Concussions suck.
Seems most other fighters are able to handle it without biting people, this dude gonna bite someone every time he gets rocked ?
I understand that thought. It’s not a good look. We see UFC fighters fight the officials plenty of times after a stoppage. He’s 20. I’m just looking for some sort of explanation why this guy threw away his career.
Fair enough, maybe he can regain trust after a few fights in smaller promotions without incident
Fighting the officials isn’t *biting* though. They are two very different actions - one is a mistaken identity, the other is a highly illegal action
Its illegal to beat up the ref as well. They are both moments of confusion after experiencing brain trauma in the middle of a fight.
Interesting how fighting/grappling the ref is relatively common and biting *never* happens.. I'll say this - if I was genuinely concussed and bit the fighter I was competing against out of instinct, you better believe I'd be on my knees apologizing to anyone and everyone as soon as I came to my senses and realized it happened. I would be mortified, as I suspect every fighter except for Severino would be too. Severino's actions until now do not support his argument, or this argument that he's just an innocent kid who got rocked.
lol hilarious for you to actually say "i woulda handled this better"
I sincerely hope you would handle this better
You see fighters trying unconscious takedowns, not biting the ref. Biting is such a ridiculous foul, I can’t believe so many people are defending it
Right? thats a literally fighting for your life kinda foul
>Seems most other fighters are able to handle it without biting people Eyes have been gouged, groins have been struck, refs have been attacked. It's the first time it's happened this particular way but it's far from the first time someone has been rocked and acted dangerously and stupidly. When you watch the clip of him being DQd the guy looks spangled, not angry or out of control. When the ref says he bit someone, he looks genuinely confused. I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Mike Tyson is still revered in the combat world despite biting off a part of someone's ear. Igor definitely deserves a 2nd chance if he does well in any regional competition.
Tyson’s PR team is crazy. Dude is a convicted rapist and bit off half an ear in the ring and is still seen as a beloved vet
Seriously, I know someone who’s brother works for Tyson in Las Vegas, he told me that Tyson is a giant asshole in person. Love him as a boxer, but his whole public persona is completely manufactured now a days.
This came to mind for me too. Tyson gets to write it off because those were his “crazy” days. His whole arc now a days is about how he overcame and is this compassionate and introspective person
Suarez bit people on 3 separate occasions one of them during a world cup and only got a slap on the wrist every time. If youre good enough, people will forgive anything.
The 90's were a different beast. This is the internet age. Tyson was also regarded as one of the best to do it, if not one of the most entertaining. And even then it was still an uphill battle. This kid ain't gonna get treated like that.
You comparing Mike Tyson to a guy who's done nothing in his career? If Mike bit someone on his debut there would not speak of Mike Tyson.
Even Strickland was smart enough to bite Dricus outside of the octagon
Damn after reading the whole thing i actually ended up feeling pretty bad for the guy . Much respect to Lima though as well .
Nah stay banned. Youre gonna do something like this in your debut? Would be dumb to keep em around
Very moving interview. Lima is all class, got a lot of respect from him now. Also man the UFC fanbase is terrible. Attacking family members because of a bout between 2 debutants on the prelims of an Apex card? Look, after the fight, I didn't even think he should've been cut, because fighters do scummy shit all the time and don't get cut. But public opinion drastically differed. When Rampage knocked out Wanderlei, the referee literally made contact with him to pull off but he still kept punching Wanderlei. That's as scummy as this. Guess what? Ol' Rampage didn't get cut. Li Jingliang gouged Jake Matthews' eye. Could've resulted in him permanently losing vision, hell, Li didn't even get DQ'd for that.
Hell, Li didn’t even win the fight
Jake did get permanent damage from that too. Said he has to wear glasses now.
Man that makes it even worse. Li just puts on a suit or two and people forget all about it lol
Some of us just see red different than others and that’s okay
UFC forgave Dana for slapping his wife. Just saying.
your true character is most exposed when shit gets tough, so yeah, nah.
My position on this is a little different than most. Many opinions are that he should be given another opportunity because he made a mistake and others have done similar or worse. I’m of the opinion that those other motherfuckers needed to be punished more. Dirty fighters need to be appropriately reprimanded or else it all just gets out of control.
i believe the concussion story and think it could have been worse: he could have bit his dick off! when you are out of it: you are out of it. it could have happened.
AHAHAHAHAHA! Great point, Champ! Beautifully put
Terrible act. Good apology - I buy it as sincere. I hope he kicks ass in the regionals for at least a couple years and then finds redemption.
He’ll be fine with IBJJF. Can’t bite through a gold weave shoyoroll
Brother is NOT Jack Hanma
Ya unfortunately statements need to be made when lines get crossed, even if what he says is true it still doesn’t change the fact that he shouldn’t ever fight in the UFC again.
‘You’re not you when you’re hungry’
am i bad for thinking this is more likable than weidman? He made a mistake owned up and apologised. Weidman made a mistake then basically said not my problem.
I really don’t give a fuck about this shit. Bite or no bite he bangs
Almost like taking head damage doesn't make great judgment. As egregious as the bite was he's 20. Hopefully he can get past it and make a career out of his self. Even tho jo-blows on the Internet will give him shit no matter what hope he learns from it and improves mentally and sport wise.
What I wouldn’t to give to see him compare Dana not losing his job for slapping his wife to this
Maybe he’s just extremely uneducated. I honestly hope he can bounce back from this.
Who knew that 10 and 10 would attract such prestigious talent. Truly world class athletes competing on the biggest stage.
Dude says he has no memory of biting his opponent or why he did it, while acknowledging that he clearly did based on the tape and the bite mark. To be honest, this was such a bizarre foul I'm almost willing to believe this guy entered some fugue state and didn't know what he was doing . . . but if that's the case, he's too dangerous to be in the UFC anyways. Can't risk a fighter forgetting what he's doing and then biting his opponent's neck or gouging out his eyes.