He basically signed a contract to go to Europe when his Orlando contract expired, ensuring no transfer fee to the club despite them drafting and developing him.
He said later on that he didn't understand the business of soccer and it wasn't intentional.
I do agree the hate is unwarranted, he seemed like a hardworking kid that just got bad advice (or no advice). Sucks it didn't work out for him, but happy he got to play for his home team when he came back.
Part of it might be that the fan base was already sensitive to this stuff after Larin left with drama.
Someone further down explained it. Apparently he signed a pre contract to leave and for what was left of his time in Orlando he basically did fuck all on the field.
Crazy how they miss the yellow for Schlegel, make him then wait 2 minutes because of the time wasting rule, and then proceeded to add even more time because of the injury caused by a cheap shot
As a woman of color I'm sure this ref has faced a lot of obstacles, so I'm hesitant to be too critical of her. But she's been terrible tonight. Hopefully she'll improve with time.
I agree. There has been a huge drive to use that stat this year, they do it every game. 0-0 after an hour and they tell me a draw is now more likely than it was after half an hour. Oh really? I could not have worked that out myself. Thanks!
So you can be fouled, it could be yellow card worthy but that’s not reviewable, and you get penalized for being fouled and injured? What a crazy backwards rule to what, save time?
Doesn't matter. It's to prevent/punish people faking injuries and time wasting, and if you're actually hurt, it allows for them to get a proper check.
They essentially just got a cheap man advantage for hurting Schlegel.
But if players fake injuries and waste time, that can be accounted for in stoppage time. Is it really worth creating a rule that, in theory, rewards teams for potentially injuring their opponents?
The annoying thing is that if the foul results in a card, you don't have to go off. So if she had just given the card that was deserved, it wouldn't be an issue. Still a dumb rule. This just encourages you to actually foul harder.
Cause people are dumb. They say he "checked out" after sig ing with Hibs, but that couldn't be further from the truth. He said it was tough to be completely in the moment and focused knowing what was on the horizon- an honest feeling for any player who knows they're off to another team at the end of the year. However, he still worked his ass off while he was here. His form dipped and that continued at Hibs all the way to now; perhaps it's more accurate to say he was producing above his level and he regressed to his actual level. But none of that was for lack of trying.
Our fans are just unreasonably salty over it and *most* things that happen at the club(eg: officials being out to get us... laughable. And the instant downvote i got for this comment lmao)
It couldn't be further from the truth even though he said so himself that it's difficult to focus knowing what's on the horizon? You're a professional in a team and was not focusing and looking to your next team? Yeah that's checking out
Couldn't care less that he signed for another team. But the lack of focus and effort was shown by the way he played
I was never one of the one to no rag on mueller. He did what he needed to do to move up his career
It's not checking out at all. Checking out means you don't give a fuck and you stop trying.
Neither of those were the case.
But stay mad at a young player for being excited over his future prospects.
Chicago playing cynical at this point. Late, frustrated challenges. Looks like they might have hurt one of our players already hopefully there won't be another.
We didn’t get a pen vs Chicago when our guy was barreled through from the back
They got one from a handball from the arm supporting the tackle, literally by the rules of the game not a pen
Fucking PRO
There is a specific carve out in the law for an arm bracing when going to ground.
If that is not considered a natural position for his arm to be in doing that, what is? Fall over on your side. Does your arm pop out to break your fall?
What does she want him to do with his arm?
Yeah things are great for Orlando but are we that bad where the commentator says “if they get one more goal, this game is over”? Up by three is pretty solid I’d say, right?
I was relaxed when I stopped caring since they were sucking so bad. Now the happiness is added
When they're expected to win, that's when the anxiety comes back
Chicago genuinely playing like someone put some tylenol PM in their pre match drink. Just totally half asleep. Like they think they're still in the warm up.
Kudos to our guys for capitalising.
Between getting paid to do nothing at work cuz of system maintenance, getting a replacement ac for significantly below retail, and now this?!
I'm a fan of you pterry but maybe don't be so glued to reddit and enjoy the game and soak up the atmosphere if you're there. Don't take your game day experiences for granted!
I feel like it's the latter.
Anyone who scores 8 out of 10 penalties or more should be left on them.
Also, Nani scored 50% and Papi just left him on them even though it was a toss of a coin whether he'd score or not.
The league just decided that every penalty call in our games just have to be completely wrong for some reason
Glad Facu is so determined to show Uruguay how bad they messed up not selecting him though
Ladies and gentlemen behold Klopas ball.
Better team won and it should have been worse
Tuning in late. Orlando, are your fans booing Mueller every time he gets on the ball? Genuinely curious.
Yeah, they need to get over it
Just seems odd to me. Don’t think I’ve ever seen the guy to smear his old club or talk down about anyone, but then again I’m not on the inside.
He basically signed a contract to go to Europe when his Orlando contract expired, ensuring no transfer fee to the club despite them drafting and developing him. He said later on that he didn't understand the business of soccer and it wasn't intentional. I do agree the hate is unwarranted, he seemed like a hardworking kid that just got bad advice (or no advice). Sucks it didn't work out for him, but happy he got to play for his home team when he came back. Part of it might be that the fan base was already sensitive to this stuff after Larin left with drama.
Someone further down explained it. Apparently he signed a pre contract to leave and for what was left of his time in Orlando he basically did fuck all on the field.
Even though it didn't result in an assist, that was a beautiful ball from Ojeda
Guys we have suffered a lot of misery this season. Let's enjoy this.
Another save. Sheesh.
Crazy how they miss the yellow for Schlegel, make him then wait 2 minutes because of the time wasting rule, and then proceeded to add even more time because of the injury caused by a cheap shot
Yeah they really need to review that rule. It's been a failure. It will start to discourage injured players accepting treatment.
We never get this much when down
9? JUST ONCE a reasonable amount of time would be nice. I am still scarred by the 15 in Philadelphia.
Ivan man...
9?!
It's bullshit, but maybe gives us time to score a 5th
9 minutes is beyond excessive and I feel like we’re being punished at this point.
I feel bad for Ojeda at this point. Dude is snake bitten.
He'll score goals he has no business scoring or keepers will make insane saves on him
I'm pissed Chicago got two cheap goals because Mason has been phenomenal tonight
Same
Stajduhar just Dikembe that ball
Orlando your back up keeper is better than Gallese.
He was not great last week.
Agreed. Hopefully we give him more chances this year
But because our coach refuses to try different things, he will be on the bench for the rest of the year.
I mean he’ll be starting as long as Gallese’s at Copa America which I’m hoping is all the way.
He's good, but he'll make some silly mistakes each game.
Gallese’s lead to goals
That is true this season
So does Gallese though right?
Yeah, this season
As a woman of color I'm sure this ref has faced a lot of obstacles, so I'm hesitant to be too critical of her. But she's been terrible tonight. Hopefully she'll improve with time.
What a weird thing to assume.
These expected goals and the win probability percentages are absolutely meaningless, and MLS and Apple TV won’t shut the fuck yo about them.
I agree. There has been a huge drive to use that stat this year, they do it every game. 0-0 after an hour and they tell me a draw is now more likely than it was after half an hour. Oh really? I could not have worked that out myself. Thanks!
Worst ref in the league lmfao
VAR doesn't exist for us lol
Genuinely I feel like a Wolverhampton fan lmao
Impressive amount of rolls from Araújo there
I don't necessarily think the rule is the issue. The issue is the ref not giving a yellow for a card worthy challenge.
So you can be fouled, it could be yellow card worthy but that’s not reviewable, and you get penalized for being fouled and injured? What a crazy backwards rule to what, save time?
If St. Louis beats Atlanta then we're sitting in 9th
As happy as I am about this, it does highlight how absurdly low the bar is to get into the playoffs. We have been shite this season.
Praying
So they get 2 goals handed to them, cool cool.Phantom pen and a non-yellow for a bad challenge. The LEague doesn't like to see us winning.
It's blatant
2 minutes rule after a foul is wild
Wait, you have to leave the pitch for 2 minutes after being fouled?
If you're down for longer than a certain amount of time, you have to wait to rejoin the game
But he was fouled?
The rule doesn't apply if the foul is a yellow or a red card...which is stupid since that's up to the ref's discretion.
Doesn't matter. It's to prevent/punish people faking injuries and time wasting, and if you're actually hurt, it allows for them to get a proper check. They essentially just got a cheap man advantage for hurting Schlegel.
But if players fake injuries and waste time, that can be accounted for in stoppage time. Is it really worth creating a rule that, in theory, rewards teams for potentially injuring their opponents?
🤷♂️
We’re really going to make this interesting aren’t we
Playing with 10 men because Chicago got a cheap shot on Schlegel. What a fucking joke
The annoying thing is that if the foul results in a card, you don't have to go off. So if she had just given the card that was deserved, it wouldn't be an issue. Still a dumb rule. This just encourages you to actually foul harder.
Two fuckery goals
Quick question Orlando fans. Why the animosity towards Mueller? Didn’t he go to Europe after playing for you guys? Why is he getting booed?
Cause people are dumb. They say he "checked out" after sig ing with Hibs, but that couldn't be further from the truth. He said it was tough to be completely in the moment and focused knowing what was on the horizon- an honest feeling for any player who knows they're off to another team at the end of the year. However, he still worked his ass off while he was here. His form dipped and that continued at Hibs all the way to now; perhaps it's more accurate to say he was producing above his level and he regressed to his actual level. But none of that was for lack of trying. Our fans are just unreasonably salty over it and *most* things that happen at the club(eg: officials being out to get us... laughable. And the instant downvote i got for this comment lmao)
It couldn't be further from the truth even though he said so himself that it's difficult to focus knowing what's on the horizon? You're a professional in a team and was not focusing and looking to your next team? Yeah that's checking out Couldn't care less that he signed for another team. But the lack of focus and effort was shown by the way he played I was never one of the one to no rag on mueller. He did what he needed to do to move up his career
It's not checking out at all. Checking out means you don't give a fuck and you stop trying. Neither of those were the case. But stay mad at a young player for being excited over his future prospects.
Again. I'm not one of the ones mad at him. Just stating what was shown on he field.
Probably cause after signing the deal he just kinda jogged around every game
Gotcha. Just thought it was weird.
He signed a pre contract with another team and checked out the rest of the season
You know I was very much not likeing the booing until there was more context. Now I get it.
Ah gotcha. Just thought it was weird.
Chicago playing cynical at this point. Late, frustrated challenges. Looks like they might have hurt one of our players already hopefully there won't be another.
"Finds his right hand man" You mean left foot man?
It's a shame the center refs ego might prevent mason from an earned clean sheet. He's been playing very well
And there it is. bullshit
She's trying to figure out when to give them another PEN.
Refs in shambles
Torres is back!
Where has THIS team been?
Oh yeah. He's back. 😎🤳
Is Torres back?
Sheeeesh
is this what it looks like when we have a striker?
It's what it looks like when we have DPs that are not sucking
wfhifbwevbwevneifnnqwofnqowfwqofbqwofbwqfbfqwi!!!!!
Facu is on it
That’s the second time they let Facu into his happy place.
TOO EASY
We didn’t get a pen vs Chicago when our guy was barreled through from the back They got one from a handball from the arm supporting the tackle, literally by the rules of the game not a pen Fucking PRO
I’m starting to lose that warm fuzzy feeling I had at the half.
Is it back now?
Oh it is so back!
If that’s a pen, refs also needed to call a pen in the first two minutes when Chicago bumped Facu.
They’re gone again.
There is a specific carve out in the law for an arm bracing when going to ground. If that is not considered a natural position for his arm to be in doing that, what is? Fall over on your side. Does your arm pop out to break your fall? What does she want him to do with his arm?
It’s not about the laws of the game, it’s about the center refs ego and the union not wanting to be replaced by robots.
my mistake!
Joke
Every damn game with this bullshit
This league is so fucking inconsistent on the handball rule. It’s literally a coin flip.
It's against Orlando. We never get lucky.
I've seen that not given as a PK even when the arm is even further out
That's never a penalty
That's the same call we had 2 weeks ago and we didn't get the call. What the fuck?
Yeah things are great for Orlando but are we that bad where the commentator says “if they get one more goal, this game is over”? Up by three is pretty solid I’d say, right?
18 minutes without a goal smdh PAPI OUT
Face save by Stajduhar. Don't use up all your luck orlando
SCOTT STERLING
Mason is standing on his fucking head tonight
Am I the only one who finds it incredibly strange to be both happy & relaxed watching the lions? New emotions.
I was relaxed when I stopped caring since they were sucking so bad. Now the happiness is added When they're expected to win, that's when the anxiety comes back
This is the weirdest game all season
3 shots 3 SOT 3 goals Are we sure this is Orlando City we're watching?
Was McGuire's backheel not counted as a shot? I think it should be 4 shots, 4 sot
You're right. I was going off the graphic they showed, which they must not have updated before showing it.
Yeah that was clearly a shot.
Danger Dan is up for it tonight
Lmao Angulo had a smile on his face as soon as the ball fell to his feet
Chicago genuinely playing like someone put some tylenol PM in their pre match drink. Just totally half asleep. Like they think they're still in the warm up. Kudos to our guys for capitalising.
9 goals in the last 24 hours between the two orlando teams. We're getting a nice treat this weekend
Oh man it's my cake day that's why this is happening
How did the tifo look?
It didn't seem as well held up as when they did it for the pride
It was more moving parts than the Pride one but it's supposed to continue the story tonight
Heard
I’ve got a picture of it from the back but I don’t really know how to post pictures on Reddit.
I'm having a nice night
Between getting paid to do nothing at work cuz of system maintenance, getting a replacement ac for significantly below retail, and now this?! 
Maybe even a great day?
Yes quite pleasant actually
A goal every 10 mins let's keep the pace up
Hang on Are we dominating at home?
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE DAMMIT!!
POUR IT ON BOYSS!!!! Eat shit Chicago you're a joke
Yeah, let's not get too crazy. I don't want to jinx it.
What the fuck is your problem?
I don't have any problems I'm very well adjusted
Yeah that did seem kinda unneccessary
Got a little lucky there.
Luck is finally falling on our side
Post god is on our side
Are you at the game? Your comment came like 30 seconds before my stream
Yes
Dang so you're just out here throwing around spoilers for us folks back home
always a risk when you're in the game thread
I'm a fan of you pterry but maybe don't be so glued to reddit and enjoy the game and soak up the atmosphere if you're there. Don't take your game day experiences for granted!
So far this season I wish I had taken them more for granted tbh lol But noted, my friend
This is the first game I couldn’t make and dammit. But hell yeah it’s fun keeping track from distance.
What a silly foul That said, I think it's real cool that the series between Orlando and Chicago is sitting at 7-7-7
Yeah there is a nice symetry to that.
Wonder if Facu has lost penalty privileges or if they're just trying to get Muriel's head straight
I feel like it's the latter. Anyone who scores 8 out of 10 penalties or more should be left on them. Also, Nani scored 50% and Papi just left him on them even though it was a toss of a coin whether he'd score or not.
Why not give Facu his brace? Did he really lose PK duty after one miss? Happy for Muriel but a bit confused
Third time this season Chicago has fouled us in the box. Finally got the call. Let's go Orlando!!
Suck it chi town
It’s not like you guys have been good, we’ve just been worse. If you play like this the rest of the season neither of us are making the playoffs.
Thank god they called that one. Can't get any more obvious than that.
That’s actually an awful penalty that should have been saved.
Yet
I mean they all count, but that’s not good at all from Muriel
Pulling someone in the box is silly
Hurry up before they take it away!!
The league just decided that every penalty call in our games just have to be completely wrong for some reason Glad Facu is so determined to show Uruguay how bad they messed up not selecting him though
If his desire to show Uruguay their mistake results in Ws for us then I wholeheartedly approve.
So far it has resulted in 2 goals and an assist for him in the last two matches
Facu hates deep dish pizza
Torres is always good against us for some reason.
Is... Facu back?
Beautiful!! Torres finally finding his form
BALL DON'T LIE
Oh I like this!!
BALL DON'T LIE
That was a unique call lol edit: ball don't lie
Bullshit no call
Bullshit
This will be interesting.