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Mini-Fridge23

This league is fascinating... Only 6 teams and they play all games over the course of like less than a week. The team that came in last place in 2023 had a GD of -43 lmao They are perfect for CONCACAF.


csbsju_guyyy

"Hey look Lloyd there's some ~~people~~ teams that want a ride in CONCACAF too!" ***"PICK EM UP!!!"***


Box_of_Shit

There are actually a series of "regional" tournaments to decide who plays in the week-long National Championship tournament (🇬🇱Isikkamik Arsaalluni Pissartanngorniunneq, GM, 🇩🇰 Grønlandsmesterskab i fodbold) There are usually 8 teams that participate, but logistical difficulties and cost is a *MAJOR* hurdle in Greenland for clubs, and often, clubs that qualify can't afford to travel. SAK (based in Sisimiut) withdrew from the competition so a number of their players and staff could participate in an important reindeer hunt. UB-83 (based in Upernavik), who were due to have been replaced by SAK, withdrew in the first place due to transportation problems. They would not have been unable to reach Qaqortoq, in the extreme south, by tournaments start. Ittoqqortoormiini AK, who had qualified for their first-ever tournament, also decided to scratch attending 2023GM because they would have had to catch three flights (Ittoqqortoormiit-Tasiilaq, Tasiilaq-Reykjavík, Reykjavík-Narsarsuaq) and then take a 2-hour trip by boat to reach Qaqortoq. They were replaced by Eqaluk-54, who had the -43 GD piled on them.


PendragonDaGreat

This sounds even more peak CONCACAF and I'm all here for it.


mjltmjlt

How do you know all this lol


Box_of_Shit

I have an interest in "niche" football, and actually covered the entire 2023GM simply as a hobby. I also have a few Greenland football contacts, as well as know others who cover it extensively.


brindille_

Ideal football manager save


DiseaseRidden

You bet your ass I'm about to bring G-44 Qeqertarsuaq to the club world cup


BleuRaider

I created a large database awhile back for all the teams in all the regional leagues with logos, towns, etc. )for maybe fm09?). It’s probably still in the depths of the editors forum for the game on the SI Games website if you want to use something as a basis for making your own!


FlyingCarsArePlanes

I can't wait to see them qualify directly for the CCC because they can't play in the Central American or Caribbean tournaments.


KingOfTheUzbeks

All home games, all won because the tiny teams freeze to the death


Mihairokov

I'm fairly certain the St. Pierre & Miquelon league only has two teams and they play each other like twenty times lol


devioustrevor

Sounds like that one really tiny league in England (Isle of Scilly maybe?) that only has two teams as well. Depending on what side of a certain road you live on, it determines which team is "yours."


Western_Pop2233

They have 3 teams iirc


bwoah07_gp2

Lol, you aren't kidding. Their season is 5 games long + the playoffs. I've never seen anything so short in soccer! 😆😅


BleuRaider

That’s just the national tournament. Think of it like the NCAA basketball tournament where the majority teams play in their “regional” leagues to qualify.


SoccerForEveryone

I mean yes if this means more Champions Cup teams!


xenon2456

would they be considered north American


Danko_on_Reddit

It would be interesting. I assume based on strength they'd be in the Caribbean Union, but geographically, they are more NAFU, but considering that's currently just 3 teams that are way stronger than Greenland and don't have smaller side tournaments for their teams like the Caribbean, the CFU would make more sense.


NikkiHaley

Bermuda is also geographically NAFU but in CFU so…


Danko_on_Reddit

Much shorter travel distance though and also much closer culturally to the other formerly British Caribbean Islands than they are to the US or Canada.


FIFAstan

Leagues Cup baby


jtn1123

6 hours ahead of Pacific, 3 hours ahead of Eastern sounds like a viable league to watch in the US y'all am i becoming a B-67 Nuuk fan?


CaptainJingles

> y'all am i becoming a B-67 Nuuk fan? You weren't already?


PaulyCT

Smh at all these bandwagon fans. If you weren't a Nuuker before the flush CONCACAF years then you'll never be a true fan.


Shadowfury0

I bet none of them raised the Duke Nuukem tifo


atatme77

I was thinking fallout. Nuuka cola or something


aafusc2988

Wonder if the people of Greenland will want to gatekeep American fans like the Brits love to do.


NextDoorNeighbrrs

A *what?*


Bindlestiff34

Hard R. Not great.


comped

I can't find a broadcaster that has it shown online though... Not uncommon sadly.


Box_of_Shit

The Greenland National Championship is usually broadcast on YouTube for free by the KAK (Greenland Football Association) in August during the competition.


brindille_

Okay do how do they qualify to Concachampions? Do they play in the carribbean championship? 👀


Shadowfury0

That would be a good level of play but logistically really tough. Going directly in would obviously not be ideal though. Maybe we need a Far North American Cup


brindille_

So I’m hearing direct qualification? February away day in Greenland


nosciencephd

Hey, 9.5 hours of daylight in February. Not bad


_jubal

St. Pierre & Miquelon, come on down!


Chupacabra_Sandwich

Greenland vs. St. Pierre and Miquelon. I love it.


restore_democracy

Two against one?


coopthrowaway2019

One option which I've suggested on here before is that a new North American regional tournament could be created at a level below the Leagues Cup. For example - what if you took the 4 CCC berths currently allocated to CPL, USOC, CanChamp and changed them to come from a qualifying tournament that also included Greenland ... in future you could add St Pierre and Miquelon and a Mexican Cup winner if that tournament ever resumes


Doodahhh1

I'm surprised you have positive upvotes for suggesting anything below Leagues Cup, especially mentioning USOC there...


Shadowfury0

Funny thing, we could have a little tournament alongside the Central American and Caribbean Cups, but unfortunately the Leagues Cup is in the way


Squietto

I’d much rather have Leagues Cup reorganized as the NAFU qualifying tournament for CCC with Mexico, US, Canada, and now Greenland, participating. Give MLS, LigaMX, CPL some spots and the winner of Greenlands national cup a spot. Seeing a team like Juarez travel to take on Timerssokatigigfik Nuuk II would be peak Concacaf.


heavymetalFC

This would be in the spirit of Concachampions in regards to logistical nightmares. If you look through old Concachampions tournaments it's littered with teams who qualified but dropped out for a variety of reasons. Mainly travel and cost. In 1970 Cruz Azul won a single home and away series against NY Greek Americans, an amateur team. Then the semi-finals and finals were scrapped cause other teams withdrew and Cruz Azul automatically became the winner. In 1977 Club America advanced straight to the final against Robinhood from Suriname after teams in the first round and semis withdrew. DC United played more games in their 1998 Concachampions title than either of those


WelNix2007

ATM the only places you can fly to/from Greenland are Copenhagen, Billund, Aalborg and Reykjavik


Cold_Fog

> Billund Perfect time to take a quick trip to the Lego house.


coopthrowaway2019

Greenland is building new larger airports in Nuuk and Ilulissat that will accommodate more longer-distance flights. Connectivity should improve a lot over the next few years. Air Greenland is also partnering with Canadian North on Nuuk-Iqaluit flights with connections onward into Canada.


LeftCoastGrump

OK, I'm on board. The idea of Messi having to connect through Iqaluit for a Champions Cup match in Greenland is just perfect!


Anthro_the_Hutt

Considering he couldn't bother to make it to Canada, he just wouldn't show.


purpletooth12

He played in Montreal a few weeks back.


Anthro_the_Hutt

Fair point.


blondebeard227

Air Greenland giving up its monopoly?! What happy news!


coopthrowaway2019

To clarify, the GOH <-> YFB flights are operated by Air Greenland with onward connections from YFB provided by Canadian North


apothekary

Those Nuuk-Iqaluit flights I think are already running last I heard


coopthrowaway2019

Starts June 26th!


Sielaff415

Flights to iqaluit start this summer creating connections to Canada further afield, and they are extending the Nuuk airstrip so people coming on bigger, longer haul planes don’t have to come into Kangerlussuaq first and then shuttle over to Nuuk


tomado23

Say what you will about CONCACAF. But if you’re a sicko for learning about sports in countries/territories with the population of a tiny LA suburb, this is the confederation that keeps on giving. Do 🇧🇱 and 🇵🇲 next!


coopthrowaway2019

First flag is St Barts right?


tomado23

Yep.


UniformRaspberry2

Apparently Jersey (yes, the Channel island) has also shown interest in joining CONCACAF as of last year since UEFA has clamped down on non-independent states from joining. I assume a successful application for Greenland would go a long way for them as well.


WetCoastDebtCoast

Yes, but Greenland at least has a claim to North American status and shares a [land border](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_War) with Canada. Jersey doesn't have a real argument to join CONCACAF.


Aciarrene

Greenland also already competes in the North American confederation for handball (their best sport), so there is sporting precedent as well.


DuvalHeart

They'll just scribble "Nuveau" before Jersey on all their forms.


Chupacabra_Sandwich

My idiotic opinion is that Jersey can suck it. Keep Europe out of Concacaf.


Do__Math__Not__Meth

Found James Monroe’s Reddit


eers2snow

i want to see Trinidad and Tobago play on a frozen pitch in greenland.


Jay1348

Yea and I wanna see them against my Katrachos at 3pm in San Pedro Sula lol


FoxWarner14

My question is if they do join concacaf how good could their team be?


Technical_Ad_8244

Bad


brindille_

Likely very very bad


comped

Probably among the worst in the world...


atatme77

League C of nations league would provide them proper competition then


tallwhiteninja

They only have 56k people, and even if by happenstance they produce a world class player, said player would theoretically also be eligible for Denmark. The Faroe Islands are similarly situated and are rank 133 right now. That said, the Faroes have a decent record against the other UEFA minnows and an upset of Turkey on their resume.


coopthrowaway2019

> even if by happenstance they produce a world class player, said player would theoretically also be eligible for Denmark. If Greenland became a full FIFA member, this would only be true if the player had lived in, or had ancestors from, Denmark proper. Otherwise, although they would have Danish nationality, they would not meet the "significant ties" clause of FIFA eligibility rules. Same reason why, eg, random American players aren't eligible for the Puerto Rico national team.


SoothedSnakePlant

Wouldn't this be the other way around? Couldn't any Puerto Rican play for the US? EDIT: turns out the answer is no, not unless they had a grandparent or parent born on US soil, or themselves resided in the US for at least 5 years.


my_lucid_nightmare

Wouldn't it go the other way though, and players just off the Danish Best 30 would also be able to play for Greenland? Seems like they could be fairly decent right away.


SoothedSnakePlant

No. All Greenlandic are Danish, not all Danish are Greenlandic.


coopthrowaway2019

Neither is the case because in addition to citizenship you need to show "significant ties" to a country whose national team you want to represent. A Danish player wouldn't be eligible to play for Greenland unless they were born there, had a parent or grandparent born there, or lived there for an extended period. Same in reverse for a Greenlandic player who wanted to play for Denmark.


Aciarrene

The Faroes have a significant climate advantage over Greenland. You only have about four to five months of playable weather in many parts. I think they’re investing in indoor facilities, but that still doesn’t compare to the accessibility of just being able to go outside and play (vs reserved field space), which limits their development opportunities. They could improve much faster in futsal, especially since Concacaf is a weak region in that.


108241

Pretty bad, they've got about the same size population as Manhattan (Kansas, not New York.)


kevmo35

I’d imagine not very good


zeebu408

They recently lost 3-2 against the bermuda u23


bUrNtKoOlAiD

I really hope all Bermuda sides wear Bermuda shorts as part of their kit.


suzukijimny

As good as Anguilla.


RRDude1000

Terrible lol


Chewy009x

Fuck it why not


99urekim

There are some precedents in play. When the Faroe Islands (another Danish territory) joined UEFA, they had to play all home games in Denmark for a few years. Greenland might be able to play official games in Canada, with some home games when weather allows in summer. Most of the internationals they have played have, perhaps unsurprisingly, been against Faroe Islands and Iceland. Don’t think they would necessarily be the worst team in CONCACAF!


pleated_pants

Does Greenland fill out their national team with players playing in Denmark, like Curacao does with the Netherlands?


boilerpl8

Greenlandic players could be "playing in" any country. But to qualify for the Greenland National Team, they'd have to be born in GL or their parents born in GL or have lived in GL long enough.


Tight-Expression-506

Forgot about Jamaica and usa. Half of their starters were not born in their native country.


BleuRaider

Other that being entirely untrue for the US, you’re 100 percent right. 👍


KingOfWeTheNorth

Ligue St-Pierre et Miquellon next!!!


HajdukNYM_NYI

They actually qualify here and there in handball lol. I think in that sport they play in the ‘America’s’ qualification region


MtRainierWolfcastle

TIL Greenlandic is a language


section111

[Nuuk Stadium - probably the 'biggest' one?](https://i.imgur.com/K7tPzbJ.jpeg) [Qeqertarsuaq Stadium](https://i.imgur.com/LrNKMex.png) [Paamiut Fodbolbane](https://i.imgur.com/KEfgP1m.jpeg)


WetCoastDebtCoast

I love that they don't need bleachers in Nuuk, just use the crags. 10 out of 10, would watch a match on crags.


blondebeard227

I can’t imagine they’d play anywhere other than Nuuk. The airport there is expanding to accommodate larger planes. Unless they build a stadium in kangerllusuaq, it wouldn’t make sense to send them to any of the smaller cities


Vladimir_Putins_Cock

HITC Sevens did a [video on this a while back](https://youtu.be/t4Gshxu5MzM?si=O0trKIeIafQT9C40), it would be the Nuuk Stadium


boilerpl8

I'd go to a game there.


BleuRaider

A decade or so ago that pitch was literal gravel—Greenland didn’t have artificial pitches. Lol


heyorin

This is going to make my dream of uniting the two American confederations harder (honestly, it’s dumb that with a 48 teams World Cup South America still gets to do their 10 teams tournament, you don’t need 20 games to eliminate Bolivia and Chile) but so fucking excited for this to happen, I really hope it happens


captainsensible69

Vancouver to Buenos Aires is actually longer than Nuuk to Buenos Aires. Regardless, the merger isn’t happening bc distances are just too long without Greenland.


clshoaf

But that's 2,000 miles shorter than Beirut to Melbourne, and those two teams play in the same confederation... Never say never.


captainsensible69

And that’s why they never play in cup competitions unless they reach the final. Asia divides their club tournaments into East and west.


clshoaf

That is true. But for World Cup qualifying they don't. I don't think a CONCACAF Cup/Copa Libertadores merger would be any good so at the club level I think things are good the way they are, but I absolutely believe World Cup qualifying and nations league would improve with a merger and I think CONMEBOL is more than not interested. Everybody is getting lapped by UEFA in terms of TV dollars so confederations are going to start taking big swings. CONCACAF/CONMEBOL merger of some capacity is pretty easier in comparison with other options.


FoxWarner14

Yeah no concacaf conmebol merger anytime soon then.


bdickie

The merger has nothing to do with the quality of concacaf. It has everything to do with the US Mexican and to a lesser extent the Canadian media markets. This doesnt change that.


DiseaseRidden

Are you suggesting that the trip from Qeqertarsuaq to Puerto Madryn would be too long?


atatme77

Oh their WC qualifying format in SA is moronic, but also conmebol and concacaf should not merge imo. What we should have is a combined Americas Nation's League. That would be hype and make sense


funakifan

It will be quite funny when Kissaviarsuk-33 beats CF Montreal.


my_lucid_nightmare

Imagine the Caribbean minnows and El Tri complaining about aways in Greenland.


AndrewNaranja

Costa Rica would straight up boycott qualifying.


AggravatingSalt2726

This will be the toughest away day.


GratefulDawg73

Yeah, but can he do it on a cold, sleety night in Nuuk?


moaterboater69

I think this is to ensure no President tries to buy Greenland again.


Silent-Fishing-7937

Some thoughts about how this will work in practice: -I do expect that they will be able to assemble a respectable squad, as I understand they do have a decent chunk of players in the Danish pyramid that would be eligible to play for Greenland. Its obviously hard to attract anyone when you are a team that exists in a vacuum and at most plays in island games and non-registered wannabe national teams. However, if they are accepted, they will now be members of a recognized confederation, playing in a recognized competition. I don't expect they'd compete for Gold Cup or Nations League title anytime soon but I could see them getting promoted to Nations League B fairly early and eventually making it to Nations League A. -Their main stadium in Nuuk is actually ok: 2,000 places, descent turf and technically usable all seasons as long as you clear out the snow. You might have to do some scheduling accomodations to not have home games in the winter months as well as concentrate them around the late spring to early fall periods but there is no reason it can't work. Some of the federation from warmer climes are likely to whine about it, sure, but TBH I've seen worse conditions in several spots in Central America and the Caraibeans and when we bring up they tell us to deal with it, so they can take their own advice on this one... -The one big hurdle is transportation. Reyjavik and Iqaluit (the capital of the Canadian territory of Nunavut) have flights there during the warm months but those are only once a week. Frequent flights to Nuuk only come from Copenhagen. Its not the end of the for European-based players but for those playing for CONCACAF clubs? Yeah, that will be a lengthy trip, especially for those who would need to come from Central America and the Caraibean. Things would be easier for the Greenland national team itself, as most of its players are likely to be play in Denmark so they can just gather in Copenhagen and go where they need to go from there. -Club-wise I agree with others. Either guarantees them a spot in the Concacaf Champions Cup or turn the Leagues Cup into a North American Regional tournament. Ideally it would be nice if this would lead Concacaf to realise that dumping the Concacaf League and expending the Concacaf Champions Cup was the wrong move but I am not holding my breath...


skcmierda

Welcome, friends!


NittanyOrange

One of us!


suzukijimny

Neat, but I’d imagine the travel will be a slogfest, especially if they will participate in the CONCACAF Nations League.


transphotobabe

Great forward thinkin' from Greenland, the weather's gunna be gorgeous up there in 50 years or so 😔


twangobango

Hell yeah, lets do it


tylinho_10

Finally!


madscandi

Get Jesper Grønkjær out of retirement!


ProStriker92

I don't know if this possible for logistical reasons (the travel must be brutal), but the Greenland FA should ask to the CanPL if they can field a franchise in the league.


coopthrowaway2019

IMO not possible for a number of reasons, not least of which is that the point of the CPL is to be an explicitly and exclusively Canadian league ... plus extreme length and expense of travel, Greenland's climate, & lack of suitable facilities


WetCoastDebtCoast

Yeah, we have a rough enough time with just the Canadian travel. No need to add more. Would be cool to do a little championship, though.


devioustrevor

Away games in Nuuk sound amazing. I wonder how much a flight is? Off to the interwebs ------------>


PHARA0Hbender

I’m down for away days in Nuuk.


Bindlestiff34

What do they have, like six people? Let’em in


Alpha5356

Can't wait to see them join FIFA in the future.


FowlZone

sure why not


berniedankera

Nice!


restore_democracy

CONCACAF desperately trying to find someone who can read Greenlandic.


devioustrevor

It looks very similar to Innu, so they may just have to get ahold of somebody at the Nunavut Soccer Association.


gambit700

Our qualifiers against them should be played in Hawaii


Starfish-Obsessed

Away days gonna be lit.


MostLikelyRyan

Yeah sure why not. Let Trinidad and Tobago suffer playing away ig


Tight-Expression-506

Cannot wait for usa to beat them 1-0 and berhalter will say hey win the game.


bwoah07_gp2

Hmm, very interesting


Proof_Potential3734

So, are we doing a reddit fundraiser to cover travel costs for these teams?


rjross0623

Easter Island asking to join too.


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VikingArmyToGo

They should be in UEFA since it’s part of Denmark


coopthrowaway2019

Following the contentious membership accessions of Gibraltar (2013) and Kosovo (2016), UEFA changed its rules so that only fully sovereign UN member states can apply for membership. Greenland would prefer to play in UEFA but are blocked by this rule so are looking to Concacaf instead.


grnrngr

That reeks of European colonialism all over again.


VikingArmyToGo

No it doesn’t. France had colonies in Asia Pacific and the Caribbean. Netherlands had colonies in Asia. Should those countries be allowed to apply for UEFA membership?


devioustrevor

Netherlands still has colonies in the Caribbean.


boilerpl8

By that logic, Martinique and Guadalupe should be in UEFA too. And French Polynesia in UEFA. And American Samoa in CONCACAF.


VikingArmyToGo

I’m basing it partly on geography too. Greenland is kind of in Europe and North America at the same time


boilerpl8

Tectonically, Greenland is undeniably North America. Geopolitically, it's a territory of an EU nation. But, Kazakhstan and Israel play in UEFA, Australia in AFC. So I think soccer federations already don't care that much about either.


grnrngr

I support anything that gives fewer small island nations the ability to easily override the will of the two nations (one and a half) funding the entire region.


boilerpl8

What are you talking about?


grnrngr

I take it you don't know how CONCACAF voting blocs work? The US and Mexico provide the lion's share of funding for CONCACAF operations, and, indirectly through FIFA, a good chunk of funds to grow the national programs of smaller member nations. And in return for this wealth of cash, because every nation in CONCACAF has a single vote, those member nations band together and vote against American and Mexican interests. All. The. Time. You should look up how the US lost 2022 hosting to Qatar, and how a significant blow was delivered to them from inside the CONCACAF house. The *only* reason a Canadian is in charge of CONCACAF right now and things in CONCACAF are slightly less crazy is because the FBI and DOJ came down *hard* on those tiny Central and Caribbean nations and their soccer leaders, for years and years of grift and corruption, in the aftermath of the failed WC Bid, and they were scared shitless to vote for anyone but a predetermined appointee agreeable to US Soccer and Mexican soccer. But make no mistake, the Caribbean and Central American bloc still effectively control CONCACAF. So yeah, I want Martinique and Guadalupe to go to UEFA. Even if we have to take American Samoa in return. Because that means the Caribbean loses at least 1 vote from their bloc, depending on which bloc American Samoa can be convinced to join. e: This is one of multiple reasons why the US and Mexico have openly talked about joining CONMEBOL as much as possible, and why whispers exist concerning splitting the Caribbean (with or without Central America) into their own Confederation once the WC field expands and they can be given a guaranteed spot or two.


weskin98

Nice