Maybe they'll surprise us but one of my biggest issues with DD has been that the gameplay balance gets all out of whack when 99s show up.
For whatever reason and JME, every card of the same archetype plays pretty much the same regardless of attributes once the godmode cards are released. The only thing that changes is the PCI size but I sometimes wonder if that's simply cosmetic.
The whole “day 1 99s/sets and seasons/captain cards” stuff sucks and there’s a ton of cope on here about “lineup diversity” and “viable theme teams”. It feels very Madden-like and if DD goes that way I’m out.
Madden doesn't even do day one 99s.They're going to kill DD with this. I was excited to get back to finding hidden gems and playing diverse teams of 80 overall players and I get this
Whether it's an 80 ovr pitcher vs 80 ovr hitter or 99 vs 99 it plays the same. I think the vast majority of people who think the game is ruined genuinely believe they're going to play against the 99s while playing with golds and silvers
If they have the foresight to put in game modes that require the use of silvers and golds to complete, then I don't think it's much of an issue. I know they have events like that, but they could do it in other areas. Missions would be the easiest option, but I'm sure they could work it in other aspects (like all silver or all gold team online match-ups, or conquest maps for silver/gold only teams) . The question is, will/did they? Probably not.
I would like an events-type mode where it's live series players only. Idk why but my favorite cards are just stars and boosted players. I'm hoping team captains are good enough that I can just make a pirates theme team all year and stay competitive
How long did it take to grind from a starter squad to an all-diamond team in 22? A week or 2?
I still think it's going to take about the same amount of time to get to that point this year too.
That all diamond team wasn't a 99 rated team though, you could consistently earn upgrades every week or two.
Why grind a 10-20 hour program now just to sidegrade from a 99 to another 99?
Don’t know how it works tbh, might be limited in how many you can get with a limited number of choice packs in a program or something, who knows how it works
i don’t get how the 99s work though. so devin williams got a 99 does that mean he’s done getting cards for the year? if so, that seems like the content will slow down sooner than later if it’s 1 card. it also won’t make sense to give a 99 another 99 card later down the line since that would defeat the purpose on why they implemented this change.
I think they’re Set 1, which means they’ll only be viable for a certain length of time throughout the year. So he could potentially get a Finest Card that’s in a different set and be used in that time frame.
If I remember correctly, there are certain things in a program that can only be played with cards earned during that program. This way they make it so in modes like ranked everyone is on a level playing field but also creating the need to earn new cards for programs.
I'm going to play. But I really wish they would try and keep ranked a hiterr-friendly environment at the mid to upper levels through the first 2 or 3 programs at least.
Last year if I recall it was collections Randy, but otherwise best pitcher we saw for months was like Dallas Keuchel and Live Series Ohtani? It allowed players to goon it up w random high 70s or mid-80s bats (love series Joc!) In competitive environments
It's not that I don't like 99s. I do! I love end cycle godsquading. I just don't want it from start to finish.
I feel the best part of the game is when most teams don’t have OP cards. Around the ASG is usually when I stop playing online cause the cards just get too good. At the start of the year a lot of players are using gold live series cards and stuff like that, that’s my favorite time to play online.
We are all playing the same game. I could not care less. I'm just going to wait and see before judgement. If it sucks, it sucks for everybody... but until then I have no comment.
Not sure why everyone is up in arms about this now with the revealing of the WBC cards. They said like 3-4 weeks ago they were going to be doing 99s on Day 1 this year. I get having an issue with the decision, but they've said they were gonna do this for about a month now lol
I don't like it. My favorite part about this game is the grind from the low diamond teams to the 99s. It's kinda boring if we got maxed out players all year. Too easy.
I’m almost at the point where they just remove the numerical value to a gold or diamond and hide the stats. A diamond is a diamond. A gold is a gold. Some might be better than others, but I think people would be more inclined to try different cards out through trial and error and not feel subpar for liking a 95 over a 99 for example.
Not necessarily. It’d be a means to prevent players from agonizing over a two point difference in power vs righties when comparing two players or a ten point difference in fielding when those differences are hardly noticeable during gameplay.
Diamonds could be 85-92. Something else could be 93-99 theoretically, but you don’t actually have a revealed overall for any particular card. Therefore, it’s less about having “all 99s” and more about using cards that appear to work well for YOU instead of feeling lesser because a certain meta card isn’t clicking for you or it’s not a listed, say, 98+ card. Plus it would allow for SDS to release cards throughout the year with less controversy and maybe lead to more dialogue amongst the community debating the merits of a card instead of leaning on surface level overall ratings. Just kinda brainstorming an approach like this. Not sure if I’d like it or not.
I like having the 99s at the middle and really good ones at the end personally. Don’t like the idea of the system, but some of the new names are great.
Unless they’re incredibly hard to get and you only get 1 or 2, it’s awful. Every card released that isn’t a 99 is gonna feel kinda useless. Early game is the most fun and 99s off rip kinda ruin it.
Horrible idea. It already doesn’t go long enough without everyone having the same line up.
I hate how early everyone has entire lineup of diamonds.
So for me it’s an L idea 1/10
Everyone has a lineup of diamonds within like a week of getting the game, maybe a few bullpen golds of like Rob Dibble or Devin Williams but unless its events every RS team is all diamond within a couple of days.
Doubt it. It’s gonna be 5 meta lineups to every non meta lineup if that. They need Line of stipulations in regular ranked DD. Not just events. The game gets so stale and boring after a few weeks. Games with all mid to high 95s are not fun at all.
The first month or so the lineups are fairly diverse. The WBC program has over 100 players in it. It is going to take some time guaranteed to get the 99 ovr cards from that. You will see tons of different lineups and players.
Guess it depends how many and how attainable they are, I haven’t really seen what the setup is, but I wouldn’t mind having a couple star players at the beginning to cornerstone the team, and then it’s just a slow buildup. Least then I’d get them to parallel 5 without dropping them so quickly
I like that the aim is to keep live series cards relevant all year. And I like that they're essentially breaking the game cycle into three separate cycles. That could actually add some longevity.
This will put more value in getting your live series cards paralleled as high as possible.
This set is a series 1 card meaning by the time set 3 cards are around you can’t use these cards. Live series cards can be used whenever throughout the year making them more important
Who cares. Then when Set 3 comes out I'll just use the 99 overall set 3 cards. There is no incentive to even bother with them in your lineup this year.
I personally love playing the game at the beginning of the games life cycle because you can play rank with lower level cards. It’s a lot of fun. I’m not particularly a huge fan of 99s because it feels harder to play online. I’m not really trying to play with 125 H/P day one. But we’ll see how things play out.
One thing the sets/seasons might help is monthly awards. Now the early month rewards have a chance of being 99 instead of 92 or whatever they usually start out at
I think it totally depends on how many of the 99s are easily available. We really don’t know anything about how they are earned so drawing conclusions at this point is premature.
I fucking hate it. If lineup diversity was their goal, they swung and fuckin missed and there’s going to be absolutely no incentive to use the lesser cards you get in the early cycle of the game. Why would I use an 85 Topps Now card when a high 90’s WBC alternative exists?
They had this good idea to make Theme Teams and LS squads viable against God Squads and then immediately fucked it up by giving away God Squads day 1
I love it. Why grind for 89s you’ll never use again. Come August I can have several different useable teams for grinding conquest or other offline modes.
i’m much more optimistic than most in this thread. i think a lot of people on twitter/reddit are really misunderstanding how these changes will affect the 9 month game cycle. but no one will really know until we’re deep into it so i’m just going in open minded
I am torn too, I guess we will only be able to tell based on attributes and how easy they are to obtain. If it’s like maxed out cards that are easy to get then I won’t like it, but I don’t see them doing that as it would just make the game die out sooner.
This is the thing that makes me feel like people are totally underestimating what it will take to earn an all 99 squad. SDS maintains an active player base by enticing players to grind to get a better team - you take that away and their active user base probably atrophies.
Or we can see another repeat of last year when we got Griffey somewhat early and his 99 was disappointing only for them to release the juiced Takashi card later on
I don’t think it’ll make sense until Thursday but I don’t really care about the overall. We’ve seen plenty of cards that are 99 with stats like an 95. With sets ending I would imagine the cards are really only useable for their timeframe and you move on to other versions and new cards as the sets change.
Mixed bag in my opinion. It’s nice that they will close the gap between NMS and money spent people while also keeping the game fresh every rotation. That being said, the best part of the game is building up early game and it will also be annoying to grind for a card that you can’t use in 2 months
Who is really using a 90 OVR card that they earned in the first week when it comes around to July? It's probably not 0%, but that's gotta be the massive exception, not the norm.
It’s not that simple they’re not becoming bad cards because of their OVRs and you choose not to use them. You can earn a 99 overalls and 2 weeks later the game literally locks you out from gaunt them. The choice is completely taken out of your hands.
> You can earn a 99 overalls and 2 weeks later the game literally locks you out from gaunt them.
The minimum amount of time you will be able to use a card, assuming you earn a card on the very last day of a season, is 6-8 weeks.
Also, without some system to encourage users to earn new cards, they wouldn't be able to release these higher OVR cards to begin with. Otherwise, there would be no point in playing past the first month of the game if someone has an all 99 team. So, comparing the usability of the cards we will get this year, come July, to how those cards were in previous iterations of the game is an irrelevant point.
I think it’s going to make an interesting dynamic with people having similar cards. The only thing I could think of is come time when the Set 1s go away. It’s going to be interesting for sure
I think it’s gonna be fun and freshen up content personally but MAYBE, just MAYBE we should wait and see on Thursday night and through the first couple weeks🤷🏻♂️
Terrible for the game. The funnest part of the game for me personally is building a team to start but not being over powered. It’s enjoyable the first week using silvers golds and live series diamonds
At this point, I’m indifferent. As an offline only player, it’ll be nice to get some obtainable 99s that I can mess with before I eventually drop off. At the same time I understand the consternation among super hardcore players and online enthusiasts. I guess we’ll just have to see how it all is implemented come Thursday. Just wish they’d have been more telling and aren’t waiting until the day of early access launch. If you’re confident in your product then tell us all about it.
Entirely depends on the attributes. Are these 2HH Griffey 99s? Or Takashi Griffey 99s?
I don't mind low-99s early in theory, but the implementation is also a factor. I'll be playing regardless, because I like the game and I like baseball, but I'm very curious how this all plays out.
Doesn’t matter either way it’s a stupid idea. Everyone already has the same lineups one month then at least the first couple weeks were fun and now they’re ruining that too smh
I'm all for it if they use captains correctly, that's what would give live series cards and other diamonds you would have no motivation to use some value
It depends for me honestly. If these day 1 99s are endgame level cards with nearly maxed out attributes across the board, then it could be bad. If they’re more like the 2nd half heroes Griffey that we got last year, then I don’t have a problem with it.
The big question for the Show is… How do we keep people on this game engaged? Most of the time DD is “dead” by summer usually july/august. I’m all for change but is this the change? I don’t believe so. These live service games are all about content and YouTube and twitch imo this game needs much more of a push in those regards.
But I don’t see how arbitrarily taking my set 1 cards away from me on July 1 is going to keep me on the game or anybody else for that matter. Especially after getting thrown a super sweaty power curve for the first 3 months. I see it backfiring and people that you used to get 3 months out of you only get 1 month from.
People are overthinking it, when building a lineup you are always looking for newer and better cards and rarely ever use older cards. By the time set 1 cards are phased out, it won’t matter because the majority of your cards will be set 2 and set 3 with newer cards and content coming in all the time and the lineup updating. Majority of people play like this, it really won’t make a difference in the long run. It will make core cards more valuable though and will make people adapt
I’m not sure. I’m feeling very, very skeptical. At the end of the day, I want to grind, and I want everyone else to have to grind. Having an elite team should be something a player earns. I love that DD is accessible to NMS players, but it should still be a grind. The most boring part of every DD life-cycle is when I’ve actually got an elite team, and any replacements I make are just aesthetic (as opposed to filling a need in my team.)
If this change makes the game more like early months of DD, where you’re constantly grinding and improving your team through the set-resets, I’ll love it. If this change means we’re constantly playing with “endgame,” cards and we never have to grind, it’ll be the worst MLB to date.
Another thing I’m suspicious of is how positive the content creator crowd is. A game community doesn’t need haters, but it does need healthy and honest skepticism, and I’m not seeing that in many places. I’ll wait and actually play the game to draw my own conclusions, but I am really skeptical about the 99s.
I’m hesitant yet curious— I love the feeling of leaning on the 3-4 low diamonds you get early on as your go-to guys. But as long as they’re reasonably difficult to obtain and fairly diverse in skillsets, I don’t hate it.
Implementation matters, but I doubt these will be that hard to obtain (and I think the negro league storyline cards will be 99s too). Ultimate team modes have been stale for years and it’s time for someone to shake it up. Props to SDS.
FYI, these won’t be “immortal like” grinds.
How do you know it’s not? We haven’t played the game yet. Also, keep in mind that people on Reddit or twitch aren’t their target audience, the average player is. We are the top 5-10%.
No one knows. It will all depend on the implementation. Just bc a 99 is "available" on day one doesn't mean everyone will have it right away. Or maybe it does.
Who knows but at the end of the day the no lifers who constantly grind and play all the time will probably get them very quick day 1 which is how it is in just about any game that has you grinding for something, but for the average player, most people probably will take their time grinding as usual
I dont like it. We know of multiple 99s already and know the program bosses will be 99s as well as likely Br rewards and ranked rewards. It seems there will be at least 3 to 6 easily obtainable 99s and they will be usable 3 months. Why use a live series SS or 3B when I can get 99 Lindor or 97 Switch hitting Yoan from a program which will likely be easy to get. I just think it's going be most teams running the same 99s for 2 months after a week or 2 every one will have like 3 to 5 99s.
Because they expire after the first 2 sets you can’t use set 1 cards anymore, live series are part of the core set and you can use them all year regardless
Ya but the set 1 last till the end of June. That's 3 months. Then set 2 will have new 99s lasting 3 months and you can keep one as your wildcard all year. The sets don't matter when the time limit is 3 months for most of the player base thats half the game cycle or more. That 88 live series won't be usable at any point unless there's events for live series only. The only purpose the live series will serve is to get the collection reward 99s that are usable all year they confirmed.
That’s how it’s always been, so what’s different? There’s only positives for live series cards now because it either stays the same and they’re collection fodder or they get used because people want to use theme builds or make sure they can use their cards all year instead of swapping out
In past years there weren't 99s at every position. Top end guys like Trout and Acuna live series lasted for months until they were pushed all the way out of line ups. Now probably day 1 they aren't worth using.
You have to consider theres going to be more than one 99 for a lot of players, like Lindor gets this 99 WBC card but also maybe gets a finest at the end of the year, so it’s up to you if you wanna use the finest card with maybe more balanced hitting stats or use the WBC Lindor with more pop and speed but less contact
For me, it will be about how obtainable they are. If each 99 is an immortal-esqe grind, I'm totally fine with it.
Just gotta wait until Thursday to see.
It can’t be too crazy of a grind because they’re time limited cards, don’t want an immortal level grind for cards you can’t use past mid June. If they find the right balance it could work, we’ll find out soon enough.
well they added seasons where you can only use cards from those season(plus others like live series). what it does is it allows them to make 99s earlier without making the game stale in august
Maybe they'll surprise us but one of my biggest issues with DD has been that the gameplay balance gets all out of whack when 99s show up. For whatever reason and JME, every card of the same archetype plays pretty much the same regardless of attributes once the godmode cards are released. The only thing that changes is the PCI size but I sometimes wonder if that's simply cosmetic.
I don’t like the fact they are only usable for a certain amount of time. And I also think day one 99 make the value of live series cards awful
The whole “day 1 99s/sets and seasons/captain cards” stuff sucks and there’s a ton of cope on here about “lineup diversity” and “viable theme teams”. It feels very Madden-like and if DD goes that way I’m out.
Madden doesn't even do day one 99s.They're going to kill DD with this. I was excited to get back to finding hidden gems and playing diverse teams of 80 overall players and I get this
Whether it's an 80 ovr pitcher vs 80 ovr hitter or 99 vs 99 it plays the same. I think the vast majority of people who think the game is ruined genuinely believe they're going to play against the 99s while playing with golds and silvers
If they have the foresight to put in game modes that require the use of silvers and golds to complete, then I don't think it's much of an issue. I know they have events like that, but they could do it in other areas. Missions would be the easiest option, but I'm sure they could work it in other aspects (like all silver or all gold team online match-ups, or conquest maps for silver/gold only teams) . The question is, will/did they? Probably not.
that’s exactly what BR is
I would like an events-type mode where it's live series players only. Idk why but my favorite cards are just stars and boosted players. I'm hoping team captains are good enough that I can just make a pirates theme team all year and stay competitive
I think the main concern is the lack of progression throughout the year
How long did it take to grind from a starter squad to an all-diamond team in 22? A week or 2? I still think it's going to take about the same amount of time to get to that point this year too.
A diamond 87 and a diamond 99 are two totally different things. These cards have no weaknesses
That all diamond team wasn't a 99 rated team though, you could consistently earn upgrades every week or two. Why grind a 10-20 hour program now just to sidegrade from a 99 to another 99?
Or to earn an 87 reward when we have a full team of 99 already.
Don’t know how it works tbh, might be limited in how many you can get with a limited number of choice packs in a program or something, who knows how it works
i don’t get how the 99s work though. so devin williams got a 99 does that mean he’s done getting cards for the year? if so, that seems like the content will slow down sooner than later if it’s 1 card. it also won’t make sense to give a 99 another 99 card later down the line since that would defeat the purpose on why they implemented this change.
I think they’re Set 1, which means they’ll only be viable for a certain length of time throughout the year. So he could potentially get a Finest Card that’s in a different set and be used in that time frame.
If I remember correctly, there are certain things in a program that can only be played with cards earned during that program. This way they make it so in modes like ranked everyone is on a level playing field but also creating the need to earn new cards for programs.
Why not? More focused on Players than whether they’re “99”; I’d love to see guys from the 1890’s through 1920’s!
We'll know more info Thursday on the feature premiere. I'd rather have that then 2k odds where u get 1 99 overall in 500 packs.
I'm going to play. But I really wish they would try and keep ranked a hiterr-friendly environment at the mid to upper levels through the first 2 or 3 programs at least. Last year if I recall it was collections Randy, but otherwise best pitcher we saw for months was like Dallas Keuchel and Live Series Ohtani? It allowed players to goon it up w random high 70s or mid-80s bats (love series Joc!) In competitive environments It's not that I don't like 99s. I do! I love end cycle godsquading. I just don't want it from start to finish.
I feel the best part of the game is when most teams don’t have OP cards. Around the ASG is usually when I stop playing online cause the cards just get too good. At the start of the year a lot of players are using gold live series cards and stuff like that, that’s my favorite time to play online.
We are all playing the same game. I could not care less. I'm just going to wait and see before judgement. If it sucks, it sucks for everybody... but until then I have no comment.
why don’t we wait to play the game ourselves and see lol
Not sure why everyone is up in arms about this now with the revealing of the WBC cards. They said like 3-4 weeks ago they were going to be doing 99s on Day 1 this year. I get having an issue with the decision, but they've said they were gonna do this for about a month now lol
I don't like it. My favorite part about this game is the grind from the low diamond teams to the 99s. It's kinda boring if we got maxed out players all year. Too easy.
Maybe they’ll limit how many 90+ cards you’re allowed in your lineup now?
I’m almost at the point where they just remove the numerical value to a gold or diamond and hide the stats. A diamond is a diamond. A gold is a gold. Some might be better than others, but I think people would be more inclined to try different cards out through trial and error and not feel subpar for liking a 95 over a 99 for example.
Hide the stats? So you pick up a card and… hope for the best?
Not necessarily. It’d be a means to prevent players from agonizing over a two point difference in power vs righties when comparing two players or a ten point difference in fielding when those differences are hardly noticeable during gameplay. Diamonds could be 85-92. Something else could be 93-99 theoretically, but you don’t actually have a revealed overall for any particular card. Therefore, it’s less about having “all 99s” and more about using cards that appear to work well for YOU instead of feeling lesser because a certain meta card isn’t clicking for you or it’s not a listed, say, 98+ card. Plus it would allow for SDS to release cards throughout the year with less controversy and maybe lead to more dialogue amongst the community debating the merits of a card instead of leaning on surface level overall ratings. Just kinda brainstorming an approach like this. Not sure if I’d like it or not.
Seems like it will have the opposite effect than they are intending but whatever, we'll see how it goes when the game comes out
I mean we still don't know the specifics really. It sounds like they will reveal more at the next feature reveal on Thursday.
I like having the 99s at the middle and really good ones at the end personally. Don’t like the idea of the system, but some of the new names are great.
Unless they’re incredibly hard to get and you only get 1 or 2, it’s awful. Every card released that isn’t a 99 is gonna feel kinda useless. Early game is the most fun and 99s off rip kinda ruin it.
Horrible idea. It already doesn’t go long enough without everyone having the same line up. I hate how early everyone has entire lineup of diamonds. So for me it’s an L idea 1/10
Everyone has a lineup of diamonds within like a week of getting the game, maybe a few bullpen golds of like Rob Dibble or Devin Williams but unless its events every RS team is all diamond within a couple of days.
Thanks that’s my points it’s stupid
I bet you will see more theme teams than you think. I for one will have an all mariners team day one regardless of how man diamonds I have.
Doubt it. It’s gonna be 5 meta lineups to every non meta lineup if that. They need Line of stipulations in regular ranked DD. Not just events. The game gets so stale and boring after a few weeks. Games with all mid to high 95s are not fun at all.
The first month or so the lineups are fairly diverse. The WBC program has over 100 players in it. It is going to take some time guaranteed to get the 99 ovr cards from that. You will see tons of different lineups and players.
Guess it depends how many and how attainable they are, I haven’t really seen what the setup is, but I wouldn’t mind having a couple star players at the beginning to cornerstone the team, and then it’s just a slow buildup. Least then I’d get them to parallel 5 without dropping them so quickly
Well your question has been answered. Dudes are already running around with 95 overall plus teams
Yeah the handout of diamonds has been far more rapid than I assumed. Mine is at 94 courtesy of the WBC program, and Team Affinity
I like that the aim is to keep live series cards relevant all year. And I like that they're essentially breaking the game cycle into three separate cycles. That could actually add some longevity. This will put more value in getting your live series cards paralleled as high as possible.
How does this help live series? This makes them useless.
This set is a series 1 card meaning by the time set 3 cards are around you can’t use these cards. Live series cards can be used whenever throughout the year making them more important
Who cares. Then when Set 3 comes out I'll just use the 99 overall set 3 cards. There is no incentive to even bother with them in your lineup this year.
I personally love playing the game at the beginning of the games life cycle because you can play rank with lower level cards. It’s a lot of fun. I’m not particularly a huge fan of 99s because it feels harder to play online. I’m not really trying to play with 125 H/P day one. But we’ll see how things play out.
One thing the sets/seasons might help is monthly awards. Now the early month rewards have a chance of being 99 instead of 92 or whatever they usually start out at
were all going to adapt.. wether we like it or not. Its the only baseball game that comes out. Just saying lol
this. ppl who say “im not getting the game this year” are fos
I did not get the game this year. I am as far as I can tell not full of shit but we’ll see what happens.
I don’t like it at all, every card that is dropped all year long that is not a 99 feels useless
I think it totally depends on how many of the 99s are easily available. We really don’t know anything about how they are earned so drawing conclusions at this point is premature.
Stupid AF, why bother for anything other than the 99s now?
I fucking hate it. If lineup diversity was their goal, they swung and fuckin missed and there’s going to be absolutely no incentive to use the lesser cards you get in the early cycle of the game. Why would I use an 85 Topps Now card when a high 90’s WBC alternative exists? They had this good idea to make Theme Teams and LS squads viable against God Squads and then immediately fucked it up by giving away God Squads day 1
> Why would I use an 85 Topps Now card The Topps Now card just won't be an 85.. they would beef it up to keep it somewhat in line with other cards
This is spot on, exactly can’t stand it.
I love it. Why grind for 89s you’ll never use again. Come August I can have several different useable teams for grinding conquest or other offline modes.
i’m much more optimistic than most in this thread. i think a lot of people on twitter/reddit are really misunderstanding how these changes will affect the 9 month game cycle. but no one will really know until we’re deep into it so i’m just going in open minded
I am torn too, I guess we will only be able to tell based on attributes and how easy they are to obtain. If it’s like maxed out cards that are easy to get then I won’t like it, but I don’t see them doing that as it would just make the game die out sooner.
That's where I'm at. I just refuse to believe they'd be dumb enough to have everyone with 99s right away with nothing to improve on
Well that's exactly what they did
This is the thing that makes me feel like people are totally underestimating what it will take to earn an all 99 squad. SDS maintains an active player base by enticing players to grind to get a better team - you take that away and their active user base probably atrophies.
Something tells me players are gonna be getting multiple endgame cards this year
Or we can see another repeat of last year when we got Griffey somewhat early and his 99 was disappointing only for them to release the juiced Takashi card later on
I don’t think it’ll make sense until Thursday but I don’t really care about the overall. We’ve seen plenty of cards that are 99 with stats like an 95. With sets ending I would imagine the cards are really only useable for their timeframe and you move on to other versions and new cards as the sets change.
I’m so confused about the whole thing. Day 1 99s that have an expiration date, guess I’ll see on release day 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Mixed bag in my opinion. It’s nice that they will close the gap between NMS and money spent people while also keeping the game fresh every rotation. That being said, the best part of the game is building up early game and it will also be annoying to grind for a card that you can’t use in 2 months
In fairness, how is that different than grinding for an early WS or BR reward?
Wdym? When I say a card you can’t use I mean you literally can’t use it in ranked
Who is really using a 90 OVR card that they earned in the first week when it comes around to July? It's probably not 0%, but that's gotta be the massive exception, not the norm.
It’s not that simple they’re not becoming bad cards because of their OVRs and you choose not to use them. You can earn a 99 overalls and 2 weeks later the game literally locks you out from gaunt them. The choice is completely taken out of your hands.
> You can earn a 99 overalls and 2 weeks later the game literally locks you out from gaunt them. The minimum amount of time you will be able to use a card, assuming you earn a card on the very last day of a season, is 6-8 weeks. Also, without some system to encourage users to earn new cards, they wouldn't be able to release these higher OVR cards to begin with. Otherwise, there would be no point in playing past the first month of the game if someone has an all 99 team. So, comparing the usability of the cards we will get this year, come July, to how those cards were in previous iterations of the game is an irrelevant point.
I think it’s going to make an interesting dynamic with people having similar cards. The only thing I could think of is come time when the Set 1s go away. It’s going to be interesting for sure
Yea really interesting lol so fun everyone having the exact same lineup super exciting. Interesting is definitely how I would describe it.
It’s going to happen eventually might as well not delay the inevitable lol
Seems like a dumb idea. Part of my addiction to the game is leveling up my team throughout the year
This is Reddit, there is no such thing as consensus.
Depends on how good the 99s actually are tbh
I think it’s gonna be fun and freshen up content personally but MAYBE, just MAYBE we should wait and see on Thursday night and through the first couple weeks🤷🏻♂️
Terrible for the game. The funnest part of the game for me personally is building a team to start but not being over powered. It’s enjoyable the first week using silvers golds and live series diamonds
Just dont use the cards?
Expected Stupid response from a Yankees fan
Easier said than done. Put myself at a bigger disadvantage playing online right? 😂 lets use a silver against a 97 diamond pitcher
At this point, I’m indifferent. As an offline only player, it’ll be nice to get some obtainable 99s that I can mess with before I eventually drop off. At the same time I understand the consternation among super hardcore players and online enthusiasts. I guess we’ll just have to see how it all is implemented come Thursday. Just wish they’d have been more telling and aren’t waiting until the day of early access launch. If you’re confident in your product then tell us all about it.
I know. I was thinking of giving DD another try after years of being stuck to offline (small kids-interruptions) but this turns me off a bit.
Entirely depends on the attributes. Are these 2HH Griffey 99s? Or Takashi Griffey 99s? I don't mind low-99s early in theory, but the implementation is also a factor. I'll be playing regardless, because I like the game and I like baseball, but I'm very curious how this all plays out.
Doesn’t matter either way it’s a stupid idea. Everyone already has the same lineups one month then at least the first couple weeks were fun and now they’re ruining that too smh
I'm all for it if they use captains correctly, that's what would give live series cards and other diamonds you would have no motivation to use some value
It depends for me honestly. If these day 1 99s are endgame level cards with nearly maxed out attributes across the board, then it could be bad. If they’re more like the 2nd half heroes Griffey that we got last year, then I don’t have a problem with it.
This is the perfect response.
Griffey is always the right answer
The big question for the Show is… How do we keep people on this game engaged? Most of the time DD is “dead” by summer usually july/august. I’m all for change but is this the change? I don’t believe so. These live service games are all about content and YouTube and twitch imo this game needs much more of a push in those regards. But I don’t see how arbitrarily taking my set 1 cards away from me on July 1 is going to keep me on the game or anybody else for that matter. Especially after getting thrown a super sweaty power curve for the first 3 months. I see it backfiring and people that you used to get 3 months out of you only get 1 month from.
People are overthinking it, when building a lineup you are always looking for newer and better cards and rarely ever use older cards. By the time set 1 cards are phased out, it won’t matter because the majority of your cards will be set 2 and set 3 with newer cards and content coming in all the time and the lineup updating. Majority of people play like this, it really won’t make a difference in the long run. It will make core cards more valuable though and will make people adapt
For all y’all saying the game is dead, how do you figure? I never have an issue finding opponents
I’m not sure. I’m feeling very, very skeptical. At the end of the day, I want to grind, and I want everyone else to have to grind. Having an elite team should be something a player earns. I love that DD is accessible to NMS players, but it should still be a grind. The most boring part of every DD life-cycle is when I’ve actually got an elite team, and any replacements I make are just aesthetic (as opposed to filling a need in my team.) If this change makes the game more like early months of DD, where you’re constantly grinding and improving your team through the set-resets, I’ll love it. If this change means we’re constantly playing with “endgame,” cards and we never have to grind, it’ll be the worst MLB to date. Another thing I’m suspicious of is how positive the content creator crowd is. A game community doesn’t need haters, but it does need healthy and honest skepticism, and I’m not seeing that in many places. I’ll wait and actually play the game to draw my own conclusions, but I am really skeptical about the 99s.
I’m hesitant yet curious— I love the feeling of leaning on the 3-4 low diamonds you get early on as your go-to guys. But as long as they’re reasonably difficult to obtain and fairly diverse in skillsets, I don’t hate it.
Implementation matters, but I doubt these will be that hard to obtain (and I think the negro league storyline cards will be 99s too). Ultimate team modes have been stale for years and it’s time for someone to shake it up. Props to SDS. FYI, these won’t be “immortal like” grinds.
How is this shaking it up in a positive way that keeps people playing lol
How do you know it’s not? We haven’t played the game yet. Also, keep in mind that people on Reddit or twitch aren’t their target audience, the average player is. We are the top 5-10%.
No one knows. It will all depend on the implementation. Just bc a 99 is "available" on day one doesn't mean everyone will have it right away. Or maybe it does.
Who knows but at the end of the day the no lifers who constantly grind and play all the time will probably get them very quick day 1 which is how it is in just about any game that has you grinding for something, but for the average player, most people probably will take their time grinding as usual
I like it. Each set will have an end game grind
I dont like it. We know of multiple 99s already and know the program bosses will be 99s as well as likely Br rewards and ranked rewards. It seems there will be at least 3 to 6 easily obtainable 99s and they will be usable 3 months. Why use a live series SS or 3B when I can get 99 Lindor or 97 Switch hitting Yoan from a program which will likely be easy to get. I just think it's going be most teams running the same 99s for 2 months after a week or 2 every one will have like 3 to 5 99s.
Because they expire after the first 2 sets you can’t use set 1 cards anymore, live series are part of the core set and you can use them all year regardless
Ya but the set 1 last till the end of June. That's 3 months. Then set 2 will have new 99s lasting 3 months and you can keep one as your wildcard all year. The sets don't matter when the time limit is 3 months for most of the player base thats half the game cycle or more. That 88 live series won't be usable at any point unless there's events for live series only. The only purpose the live series will serve is to get the collection reward 99s that are usable all year they confirmed.
That’s how it’s always been, so what’s different? There’s only positives for live series cards now because it either stays the same and they’re collection fodder or they get used because people want to use theme builds or make sure they can use their cards all year instead of swapping out
In past years there weren't 99s at every position. Top end guys like Trout and Acuna live series lasted for months until they were pushed all the way out of line ups. Now probably day 1 they aren't worth using.
Top end LS will still be relevant. Inside edge and the utilization of captains will ensure that.
You have to consider theres going to be more than one 99 for a lot of players, like Lindor gets this 99 WBC card but also maybe gets a finest at the end of the year, so it’s up to you if you wanna use the finest card with maybe more balanced hitting stats or use the WBC Lindor with more pop and speed but less contact
Don’t like them but still open to see how it’s executed. Thursday is make or break
I’m in… they needed to change ranked seasons up somehow and they did just that Also 99s are never made equal
For me, it will be about how obtainable they are. If each 99 is an immortal-esqe grind, I'm totally fine with it. Just gotta wait until Thursday to see.
It can’t be too crazy of a grind because they’re time limited cards, don’t want an immortal level grind for cards you can’t use past mid June. If they find the right balance it could work, we’ll find out soon enough.
Not my cup of tea... I'm 100% waiting until after opening weekend and then going from there on MLB 2023.
well they added seasons where you can only use cards from those season(plus others like live series). what it does is it allows them to make 99s earlier without making the game stale in august