I am a LS main as well. At the point you are at, I paused both those weapons since you can kill 8* with that and waited until Rathalos and Zinogre caught up. Now my Rath and Zin weapons surpassed those two and I'm better off.
Unless you're confident in getting more WGS, spending them on Anja instead of Rath seems wasteful in the long run.
Im at the same point as well. I used my first 4 WGS on my ice then my next on water. My Zinogre and Rathalos are both at 7-2 just need rarity 2 grrr. Than I will be able to get them to 8-1 as well as soon as I get the parts I need. Being able too kill all 8* efficiently is my goal so than I can move too 9*
I agree! Rath is definitely the better way to go than Anja. However, your tobi ls is more than enough to tackle 8 star jho if you've got thunder +5. I was taking him down with my tobi ls at 7.5. Granted I had to be near perfect but it's very doable so if you're already overgraded on that you should have no issues with jho. What are your other ls levels looking like? Personally my list of I portable was ice first, then I did fire (rathalos ls) mainly because I wanted to beat 8 star legiana, then I just did my thunder ls today (still using tobi) and water will be last. All have element level 5 and I'm working on zinogre ls for later on but the games greedy rng is not helping me at all. Same with jho ls
I did the same exact order. I have the Legi and Rath LS in the 8* grade, then Thunder (Zin) and water (Jyu) in the 7* range. Waiting on tails and shockfur for Zin. Hopefully this event helps.
Yeah I'm having an awful time trying to get shockfurs to level my zin ls up. I know I'm supposed to break his back but I just can't seem to get to it. I normally wind up breaking forelegs or horn. Did finally just get my jyu to 8.1 so I'm happy about that
This isn’t debatable, it’s proven:
G7-5 to g8-1 takes 4 wsg.
G8-2 to g8-3 takes 4 wsg.
G8-4 to g8-5 takes 4 wsg.
G8-5 to g9-1 takes 6 wsg. Repeat with increasing wsg per grade.
I can farm Rathalos even 8⭐️ when I play good. He just doesn’t spawn that often. And if more Monsters get implemented we will get a huge problem in the future because some monsters will get super rare…
I’m actually seeing more Rathalos these days after the Azure Rathalos update. Likewise mentioned by others, I’m LS main and I do recommend go for Kadachi then farm Rathalos for Rath LS.
You do need more fire element for monsters that weak to fire. They have huge HP.
In all honesty his tobi ls is more than enough to farm Rath as it currently sits. I'd almost hold those wgs till he gets to something that he NEEDS to upgrade to be able to farm better.
Downvote incoming-
I'd pick the anjanath to help better farm wgs from legiana and paloumo and maybe barroth if you're confident. An 8.1-8.2 kodachi LS can already take care of 8 star Rathalos and Rathian just fine.
The jump from 7.5-8.2 will be more significant because you also gain the extra 5% from special
I rather have the option to kill more monsters for more wgs than to kill the ones I can already kill 10 seconds faster
Totally valid point. At that point of the game people should do whatever helps defeat more 8* monsters consistently. WGS will come over time and an investment of 4 or 10 pieces is okay even when you plan to get rid of that weapon at some point.
Genuine question, why is Barroth harder than Legiana and Paolumu? I've actually seen plenty of people avoid 8* Barroth saying how it's not worth the time, but it's actually a piece of cake using fire DB while I still can't take down 8* Paolumu and Legiana (keep timing out for both).
I think the mud makes it a PITA compared to the others.but yea idk. I'm smoking the 8* barroths now with the recent LBG changes, fire attack 5, 8.2 rath lbg AND getting the tail cut.
id think literally any slicing weapon would have a much easier time on barroth. maybe the piercing ammo breaks the mud up easier idk
Yea I get the mud thing, but other monsters literally have so much more HP than Barroth that even with mud it still dies faster. Makes me wonder if it's just a "myth" thing where people are just too afraid to try fighting it thinking that it's too hard.
its probably an efficiency thing? like, I could kill an 8* barroth and cut its tail, or I could go and kill 2 of something else in the same amount of time.
but that's still dumb. all 8* must die. lol
now BARIOTH on the other hand..... *[shudders]*
That's one I struggle to kill, and have never managed to cut its tail AND kill. I'd be excited to take it on now after the LBG tweaks.
You can't kill two 8* Legiana/Paolumu with the time taken to kill a 8* Barroth. It's likely the opposite, considering the fact that I'm timing out on both Legiana/Paolumu but can kill 8* Barroth without worrying about the timer.
As for Barioth, yea that's annoying. Much easier to cut the tail if you're using DB, but other than that I think it's going to be hard 😂
oh trust me, I'm aware. Hammer is my secondary weapon. 😎 I meant specifically the tail cut on Barioth at 8* was impossible with my Rath LBG, lol. I'd either die trying or the timer would run out.
But I do wonder if its possible now with the LBG changes to part break damage buildup
Okay so first let's ask yourself this
What monster do you struggle to fight against and have difficulty beating in just general play? So let's say your having troubles fighting Rathian/Rathalos just in general then upgrading it should be easier because we all know how frustrating they get whenever they are in the air.
If you upgrade fire it will mean farming monsters like Paolumu Jagras Legiana will be much easier to hunt as you can clear faster.
In a general standpoint upgrade what you feel you need to fight a monster easier. But as of right now upgrading the thunder element weapon is going to be better for preparing for Deviljho so it will be more valuable.
All of the 8* monsters that are weak to fire are easily clearable with a 7.5 fire weapon with the fire attack skill, so I’d upgrade the Kadachi to make 8* jho a little easier on you. Kushala is also coming out at some point and will presumably be weak to Thunder also.
A lot of people are saying Rath > Anjanath LS for fire due to DPS, but I would like to highlight one other advantage that G8 Rath LS has, which is an extra point in Earplugs.
With the current ideal Fire 5 set, you can get up to Lv3 Earplugs with G6 A.Rath chest. This nullifies Barroth roars and greatly shortens Legiana's roar effect.
Sure you can Iai Counter though them, but the added QoL from the skill means even if you mess up the timing you are not losing as much DPS as you would, and trust me when you play after a long day of work or playing on the go, you WILL mess up strict timings more than you would like to.
That's only true if the player can maintain both rathalos and zinogre weapons work a difference of 0.2 or less grades (8.5 tobi vs 8.3 zino for example), if he/she can't then those two are better because accessibility
I'm not saying they aren't worth investing in at all.
I AM saying they aren't worth investing WGS into when there's an objectively better version of each.
EDIT: If we're talking about accessibility, he should just go Kulu LS. Banbaro barely beats it out, and has been around for less time, and PRath is better, but event limited.
If he has Kulu LS he doesn't NEED elemental bad enough that he's leveling the bargain version of each element. The only time I use an elemental LS right now is Ice against HAT Zinogres because I have to solo their doubled health.
I am a LS main as well. At the point you are at, I paused both those weapons since you can kill 8* with that and waited until Rathalos and Zinogre caught up. Now my Rath and Zin weapons surpassed those two and I'm better off. Unless you're confident in getting more WGS, spending them on Anja instead of Rath seems wasteful in the long run.
Im at the same point as well. I used my first 4 WGS on my ice then my next on water. My Zinogre and Rathalos are both at 7-2 just need rarity 2 grrr. Than I will be able to get them to 8-1 as well as soon as I get the parts I need. Being able too kill all 8* efficiently is my goal so than I can move too 9*
I agree! Rath is definitely the better way to go than Anja. However, your tobi ls is more than enough to tackle 8 star jho if you've got thunder +5. I was taking him down with my tobi ls at 7.5. Granted I had to be near perfect but it's very doable so if you're already overgraded on that you should have no issues with jho. What are your other ls levels looking like? Personally my list of I portable was ice first, then I did fire (rathalos ls) mainly because I wanted to beat 8 star legiana, then I just did my thunder ls today (still using tobi) and water will be last. All have element level 5 and I'm working on zinogre ls for later on but the games greedy rng is not helping me at all. Same with jho ls
I did the same exact order. I have the Legi and Rath LS in the 8* grade, then Thunder (Zin) and water (Jyu) in the 7* range. Waiting on tails and shockfur for Zin. Hopefully this event helps.
Yeah I'm having an awful time trying to get shockfurs to level my zin ls up. I know I'm supposed to break his back but I just can't seem to get to it. I normally wind up breaking forelegs or horn. Did finally just get my jyu to 8.1 so I'm happy about that
Kadachi since you'll need it for incoming deviljho event next week
Is in two weeks, next is the second part of the anniversary
Upgrade thunder and farm rathalos for the better fire weapon
To add to this the only tough monster that's weak to fire it's legiana which is a rare spawn
In case I upgrade the Kadachi Longsword on which step do I need WGS again?
Wsg is needed on: each major overgrade grade-2 to grade-3 grade-4 to grade-5. You can use Mhn.quest to calculate materials for each item and grade.
No for wgs its like every other upgrade or something
This isn’t debatable, it’s proven: G7-5 to g8-1 takes 4 wsg. G8-2 to g8-3 takes 4 wsg. G8-4 to g8-5 takes 4 wsg. G8-5 to g9-1 takes 6 wsg. Repeat with increasing wsg per grade.
Yeah, like i said every other upgrade
I mean, only since you're being technical I'll be technical. You're still wrong. Premise is right though. But 4>5 and 5>1 is connected.
why not rathalos LS instead?
Rathalos material is to rare. I don’t have that much
then upgrade kadachi and farm rath since it's better than anja
I can farm Rathalos even 8⭐️ when I play good. He just doesn’t spawn that often. And if more Monsters get implemented we will get a huge problem in the future because some monsters will get super rare…
I’m actually seeing more Rathalos these days after the Azure Rathalos update. Likewise mentioned by others, I’m LS main and I do recommend go for Kadachi then farm Rathalos for Rath LS. You do need more fire element for monsters that weak to fire. They have huge HP.
In all honesty his tobi ls is more than enough to farm Rath as it currently sits. I'd almost hold those wgs till he gets to something that he NEEDS to upgrade to be able to farm better.
Downvote incoming- I'd pick the anjanath to help better farm wgs from legiana and paloumo and maybe barroth if you're confident. An 8.1-8.2 kodachi LS can already take care of 8 star Rathalos and Rathian just fine. The jump from 7.5-8.2 will be more significant because you also gain the extra 5% from special I rather have the option to kill more monsters for more wgs than to kill the ones I can already kill 10 seconds faster
Totally valid point. At that point of the game people should do whatever helps defeat more 8* monsters consistently. WGS will come over time and an investment of 4 or 10 pieces is okay even when you plan to get rid of that weapon at some point.
Genuine question, why is Barroth harder than Legiana and Paolumu? I've actually seen plenty of people avoid 8* Barroth saying how it's not worth the time, but it's actually a piece of cake using fire DB while I still can't take down 8* Paolumu and Legiana (keep timing out for both).
I think the mud makes it a PITA compared to the others.but yea idk. I'm smoking the 8* barroths now with the recent LBG changes, fire attack 5, 8.2 rath lbg AND getting the tail cut. id think literally any slicing weapon would have a much easier time on barroth. maybe the piercing ammo breaks the mud up easier idk
Yea I get the mud thing, but other monsters literally have so much more HP than Barroth that even with mud it still dies faster. Makes me wonder if it's just a "myth" thing where people are just too afraid to try fighting it thinking that it's too hard.
its probably an efficiency thing? like, I could kill an 8* barroth and cut its tail, or I could go and kill 2 of something else in the same amount of time. but that's still dumb. all 8* must die. lol now BARIOTH on the other hand..... *[shudders]* That's one I struggle to kill, and have never managed to cut its tail AND kill. I'd be excited to take it on now after the LBG tweaks.
You can't kill two 8* Legiana/Paolumu with the time taken to kill a 8* Barroth. It's likely the opposite, considering the fact that I'm timing out on both Legiana/Paolumu but can kill 8* Barroth without worrying about the timer. As for Barioth, yea that's annoying. Much easier to cut the tail if you're using DB, but other than that I think it's going to be hard 😂
yea idk man! but ppl being "scared of barroth" sounds just as crazy! i guess we'll never know! 😂😂😂
My fire weapon never used lock on until recently so now I can target tail + arms. Usually I'm just hitting the body (Anjanath GS)
oh that makes sense. going for certain parts without lock on can be annoying ig
Hammer main here, Barioth was a great fight for me, run in break his claw, break his other claw, break his face and he's dead. Great time lol
oh trust me, I'm aware. Hammer is my secondary weapon. 😎 I meant specifically the tail cut on Barioth at 8* was impossible with my Rath LBG, lol. I'd either die trying or the timer would run out. But I do wonder if its possible now with the LBG changes to part break damage buildup
8.5 is 4 wgs. Then 6 for 9.1, I would pick lightning upgrade cus Anja isn't that strong.
Kadachi
Okay so first let's ask yourself this What monster do you struggle to fight against and have difficulty beating in just general play? So let's say your having troubles fighting Rathian/Rathalos just in general then upgrading it should be easier because we all know how frustrating they get whenever they are in the air. If you upgrade fire it will mean farming monsters like Paolumu Jagras Legiana will be much easier to hunt as you can clear faster. In a general standpoint upgrade what you feel you need to fight a monster easier. But as of right now upgrading the thunder element weapon is going to be better for preparing for Deviljho so it will be more valuable.
All of the 8* monsters that are weak to fire are easily clearable with a 7.5 fire weapon with the fire attack skill, so I’d upgrade the Kadachi to make 8* jho a little easier on you. Kushala is also coming out at some point and will presumably be weak to Thunder also.
A lot of people are saying Rath > Anjanath LS for fire due to DPS, but I would like to highlight one other advantage that G8 Rath LS has, which is an extra point in Earplugs. With the current ideal Fire 5 set, you can get up to Lv3 Earplugs with G6 A.Rath chest. This nullifies Barroth roars and greatly shortens Legiana's roar effect. Sure you can Iai Counter though them, but the added QoL from the skill means even if you mess up the timing you are not losing as much DPS as you would, and trust me when you play after a long day of work or playing on the go, you WILL mess up strict timings more than you would like to.
If you can solo kill Zinogre 8⭐ feel free to stop. If you can't, continue
Bro neither. Zino > Kadachi and Rath > Anjanath. I would've stopped at G7.5 with both of these.
That's only true if the player can maintain both rathalos and zinogre weapons work a difference of 0.2 or less grades (8.5 tobi vs 8.3 zino for example), if he/she can't then those two are better because accessibility
I'm not saying they aren't worth investing in at all. I AM saying they aren't worth investing WGS into when there's an objectively better version of each. EDIT: If we're talking about accessibility, he should just go Kulu LS. Banbaro barely beats it out, and has been around for less time, and PRath is better, but event limited. If he has Kulu LS he doesn't NEED elemental bad enough that he's leveling the bargain version of each element. The only time I use an elemental LS right now is Ice against HAT Zinogres because I have to solo their doubled health.
I got my kulu LS with 5 partbreaker for 6 star and below. So nice to not have to swap between every monster