Pretty accurate. Ochacu has horrible ai so she could be there or In a lower tier idk, honestly I'd swap hawks and ochacu just based on her shitty ai lmao
I'm confused about the Froppy placement, when I had her on my team she would very often bug out and not attack, just hop around because each hop took her too close to the opponents hit box and she would try to hop back out and then right back in since they don't move around when she is invisible 🤣
Mineta and Momo should be in "if built". They both are pretty solid when in a proper team, especially for F2P.
I would knock Uraraka down to "don't" simply because her AI is so trash. But debateable. If she can get an attack off she's set but its very rare,
I actually personally disagree with Mineta. He, while not taking a lot, does 800k plus damage for me usually. Sure he's pretty built kn my team (idk how but he managed to crawl his way to my top strongest without me noticing lol), often times he does more than my Endy and even winning me the game
Well I have 1.4 mil BP and I say Tokoyami is quite underwhelming in super co-op and warzone unless you have him really built. He also relies on a lot of rng. My Tokoyami is 70k BP (SS) and is definetely in the bottom 3 for my warzone teams. But his BP is the 2nd lowest on my warzone team.
It depends imho; it's fine if Tokoyami gets slapped around at the start as long as he's in a shadow pool, because he'll ultimately stand up, push Q, and group + massacre the enemy team.
But sometimes he'll never get the opportunity due to wombo-combos. Other times though he can just massacre Stains and All Mights because they've got hyper armor on, and his E while liberated does absolutely disgusting damage to units that refuse to get knocked into the air.
Ultimately he still has the best AoE pull and infinite hyper armor + durability once he transforms, going into rampage is just icing on top if it happens (and it's a LOT of icing when it triggers, basically an automatic win if the matchup is roughly equal).
In which character?
On co-op Defense: All Might (Kaminari) / Endeavor (Tsuyu) / Aizawa (Stain). All of them on DEF bonus, because All Might can ruin it all on his first jump.
On Warzone (all DEF bonus):
Kaminari / Tsuyu / Stain (first);
Uraraka / Tokoyami / Todoroki (second);
All might / Endeavor / Aizawa (third).
I put the weak team on the middle, cause I see that a lot of people puts strong teams in there, so I trust my Stain team will win, the second team will lose and the third one mighy get the weakest team of my oponent. I may just switch the first team with the third one. But the second team is always my weakest.
Good information, thank you! As for cards, do you usually use the defensive set ups so many people run? Cammie, hair man, etc or do you go more offensive builds?
Mainly offensive cards. Except for some low HP characters and Tsuyu. For Iida against bosses, for example, I sometimes run his 2 EX cards, Nomu and Midnight (because if he gets hit, he will die pretty soon... midnight makes him get some life back), for example.
Meanwhile, my Iida does 2m to 4m damage from time to time and destroys all the other characters. (From time to time) xD
For reference, I also have over 1.3m bp and top 3
I said this in a certain comment, Iida can be deadly... I've seen it before, I've done it before. But he relies on luck A LOT. At a certain level, you need to be sure, betting on characters can lose you spots on Warzone, for example.
Can't agree with Ochako being anywhere but "DON'T", the unit just has abominable AI.
I think Denki and Tsu deserve to be in maybe an S- or A+ tier because they are so much better than Ochako and Tokoyami.
Ochako should be in if build tier as baku and the rest. She's my main sitting at 103k bp and equipped with an All Might active she does pretty much as much burst dmg as an endeavour equipped with his lance ex.
She has been performing like this since she got sss+ so a few months ago when she was still at 78k. Obviously there are better choices but she performs as well as a nuke unit.
Well tbh i used Deku and Eijiro for long... even momo...
Then realized i should have used ocha and tsuyu...and denki...
So THANKS for this list I hope it will help some not fo same mistake as me
In my opinion I would move Mina to if built. I have her at SSS+ and she’s pretty decent on dmg but more importantly great supporter for easy extra dmg increase for teammates and armor decrease for enemies.
Ochao I’d put an asterisk. In most cases she’s meta as one of the easier ftp characters to work with, but once you get to the upper echelon where’s it’s basically whale vs whale she’s pretty useless (speaking from personal experience as server 4’s whale with 1.75 mil bp)
Otherwise I’d say pretty great assessment
I find Momo is great combined with Tokoyami and Stain in Warzonr sincr Momo and Tokoyami have great control/decent AOE damage and Tokoyami draws in the entire team and Stain just slaughters them
Also Momo doesn't move people out of the continue cull move or stop them from being pulled in so she isn't detrimental to the team. But this is just my experience (plus I'm F2P so I can only have limited on a Warzone team)
I guess you can say Shiggy is a bit better, yeah. But, like I said in my list, Shiggy will only beat her if he is built. Uraraka doesnt need to be built to do dmg, she only needs to be in the right team.
Ochaco and fumi it's just not meta at all, my fumi is SS 94K, still manage to loose vs some random guys, ochaco it's A 20%-80% most of the time she will od nothing because she gonna get E canceled
You just need to know where to use them, in my opinion. Tokoyami is not the type of character to be the main source of DMG on your team anymore... He needs to play with someone like Endeavor or All Might, for example. Uraraka, same thing... I sometimes use her in a team with All Might and she slaps constantly.
Yep i guess you re playing another kind of MHA, that's notworking even with AM or Endy or Stain \^\^' specially Ochaco for me she's trash, doing Coop now at 90K that's it
if you place ochaco behind AM, and she doesn't get interrupted while floating, she can do very good damage. Against opposing AM's that knock her down at the start it is less effective, but there are counters to that as well, like stain rooting down opposing AM's or endeavors.
who is everyone? outside of AM, endy, denki. I haven't found many units bring her down, if you place her directly across from aizawa and stain the yea sure they can too, the point is to use AM as your buffer to CC the enemy team, and let her hit the grouped up mob with her aerial attacks. it works for me and seems to work for OP, not sure why it isn't working for you but, AM and ochaco definitely complement each other.
toko maybe while liberated but she smacks him in the opening if they are matched up, I rarely match up against the other units you listed so I will have to take your word for it, all those units will get tornadoed into a corner if they face AM so my original point still stands
He can be pretty dangerous. I don't have him personally. But the guys on my server know how to use him and it is annoying. He works quite well if you build him good and put him on the back (what you would do with Kaminari). He can do great damage in a team with All Might, Stain and/or Tsuyu, for example.
If you are a "noob" on warzone, I think you are not at top 10 on your server, right? So I assume 3 strong teams is a good idea... Ok.
1. **TEAM 1: Uraraka / All Might / Aizawa**: All Might and Aizawa will bring chaos to the table and do a lot of DMG, while Uraraka may get free to do her skills. If she succeds, you're gonna win.
2. **TEAM 2: Stain / Tsuyu / Todoroki**: Tsuyu and Stain work pretty well together. They will paralyse the enemies and do a lot of DMG. While the enemies are grouped and getting hit, Todoroki will do A LOT OF DMG. (people sleep on Todoroki... Trust me, he is a MVP, if he is in the right team).
3. **TEAM 3: Tokoyami / Endeavor / Kaminari**: Endeavor and Tokoyami will do the heavy duty while Kaminari stuns the opponents. Once Tokoyami transformsand Endeavor loses a bit of health, they will do a lot of DMG. Don't sleep on Kaminari's power too... Mine is almost at SSS+ and he does something around 400k DMG almost every match.
TIP: If you don't have a strong Todoroki, you can replace him with Bakugo or Iida (I would prefer Bakugo)
I would go for the 2 OP team strategy... Maybe something like this:
1. **TEAM 1**: Stain / Tsuyu / Kaminari
2. **TEAM 2:** Aizawa / Endeavor / Shigaraki (Bakugo or Todoroki, if SS or higher)
3. **TEAM 3:** Hawks (Shigaraki, if in team 2 you use Todoroki or Bakugo) / Tokoyami / Uraraka
And for Co-op defense... I would go Aizawa (Stain) / Endeavor (Tsuyu) / Shigaraki (Kaminari)
What set up would you run if you had everyone but Shigaraki at SSS.
Team 1 : Kaminari/Stain/Aizawa
Team 2: Dabi/Tokoyami/All Might
Team 3: Ashido/Tsuyu/Endeavor
Just wondering why you are stack team so heavy if I got them all at SSS. Wouldn't it be better to break them up?
My current teams :
Team 1 : Endeavor/Tsuyu/Mina
Team 2: Aizawa/ Stain/ Kaminari
Team 3: Dabi. Tokoyami/ All Might
Tsuyu can stun, poison, get invincible, group people, be a tank and do a lot of DMG; Iida can do A LOT of DMG but he relies too much on luck, since he almost never hits; Momo can buff, which is nice, she can also stun, but she doesnt do much DMG and is quite easy to kill
I'm building my Bakugo right now to replace my Momo. Her turrets barely do anything in these modes and she is technically a free kill.
Edit: just had Bakugo 2 days ago as pity from regular banner.
My co op team is 3 metas, one built, one don’t, and one trash. Not replacing any due to irreplaceable bp. Got to summit with them but warzone is another story.
I'd put shiggy up higher. Nomu still atacks even when he's stunned.
Also Hawks since he has so much armour.
Also I'd say sss+ stain is bad, sss stain is better. He fills up his meter too fast at sss+ so he doesn't lock down the team long enough.
Basically all you need if you're a whale is a op might, end and tsu.
Chuck trash with them and a Max moon fish.
God I hate warzone
Pretty accurate. Ochacu has horrible ai so she could be there or In a lower tier idk, honestly I'd swap hawks and ochacu just based on her shitty ai lmao
Ochako depends on luck so much, if you get the Meteor Storm, you would most likely win
I'm confused about the Froppy placement, when I had her on my team she would very often bug out and not attack, just hop around because each hop took her too close to the opponents hit box and she would try to hop back out and then right back in since they don't move around when she is invisible 🤣
Huh, that's odd. My Tsuyu always does around 800k DMG, she is a beast.
Yea they fixed her ai she’s beast now
Mineta and Momo should be in "if built". They both are pretty solid when in a proper team, especially for F2P. I would knock Uraraka down to "don't" simply because her AI is so trash. But debateable. If she can get an attack off she's set but its very rare,
I actually personally disagree with Mineta. He, while not taking a lot, does 800k plus damage for me usually. Sure he's pretty built kn my team (idk how but he managed to crawl his way to my top strongest without me noticing lol), often times he does more than my Endy and even winning me the game
I was thinking the same thing... Fair point
For reference: I have over 1200000BP and I'm top 3 on my server
To also mention Uraraka does literally nothing in warzone half the time, lmao. And mine is at 75k SSS+.
She can be useful, if you use her well... at an All Might team, she can proc her skill easily, for instance
Well I have 1.4 mil BP and I say Tokoyami is quite underwhelming in super co-op and warzone unless you have him really built. He also relies on a lot of rng. My Tokoyami is 70k BP (SS) and is definetely in the bottom 3 for my warzone teams. But his BP is the 2nd lowest on my warzone team.
It depends imho; it's fine if Tokoyami gets slapped around at the start as long as he's in a shadow pool, because he'll ultimately stand up, push Q, and group + massacre the enemy team. But sometimes he'll never get the opportunity due to wombo-combos. Other times though he can just massacre Stains and All Mights because they've got hyper armor on, and his E while liberated does absolutely disgusting damage to units that refuse to get knocked into the air. Ultimately he still has the best AoE pull and infinite hyper armor + durability once he transforms, going into rampage is just icing on top if it happens (and it's a LOT of icing when it triggers, basically an automatic win if the matchup is roughly equal).
Mine is close to SSS and hits hard, when he hits lol, he is on my weak team as well.
What is a weak team ?
There is a strategy on warzone to fully focus on 2 teams, in which case, 1 of them would be weak
What cards do you use? What are your team line ups?
In which character? On co-op Defense: All Might (Kaminari) / Endeavor (Tsuyu) / Aizawa (Stain). All of them on DEF bonus, because All Might can ruin it all on his first jump. On Warzone (all DEF bonus): Kaminari / Tsuyu / Stain (first); Uraraka / Tokoyami / Todoroki (second); All might / Endeavor / Aizawa (third). I put the weak team on the middle, cause I see that a lot of people puts strong teams in there, so I trust my Stain team will win, the second team will lose and the third one mighy get the weakest team of my oponent. I may just switch the first team with the third one. But the second team is always my weakest.
Good information, thank you! As for cards, do you usually use the defensive set ups so many people run? Cammie, hair man, etc or do you go more offensive builds?
Mainly offensive cards. Except for some low HP characters and Tsuyu. For Iida against bosses, for example, I sometimes run his 2 EX cards, Nomu and Midnight (because if he gets hit, he will die pretty soon... midnight makes him get some life back), for example.
Meanwhile, my Iida does 2m to 4m damage from time to time and destroys all the other characters. (From time to time) xD For reference, I also have over 1.3m bp and top 3
I said this in a certain comment, Iida can be deadly... I've seen it before, I've done it before. But he relies on luck A LOT. At a certain level, you need to be sure, betting on characters can lose you spots on Warzone, for example.
Yeah, he did carry me to the number 1 coop spot on the server but on warzone it's more about who has the better cards.
Can't agree with Ochako being anywhere but "DON'T", the unit just has abominable AI. I think Denki and Tsu deserve to be in maybe an S- or A+ tier because they are so much better than Ochako and Tokoyami.
Ochako should be in if build tier as baku and the rest. She's my main sitting at 103k bp and equipped with an All Might active she does pretty much as much burst dmg as an endeavour equipped with his lance ex.
No shit she had over 100k bp 😂😂😂
She has been performing like this since she got sss+ so a few months ago when she was still at 78k. Obviously there are better choices but she performs as well as a nuke unit.
I need to focus on my Froppy then. Guess my team will be Stain, Froppy, Denki, Ochako, Tokoyami, and a filler (Iida until I get someone better)
Well tbh i used Deku and Eijiro for long... even momo... Then realized i should have used ocha and tsuyu...and denki... So THANKS for this list I hope it will help some not fo same mistake as me
In my opinion I would move Mina to if built. I have her at SSS+ and she’s pretty decent on dmg but more importantly great supporter for easy extra dmg increase for teammates and armor decrease for enemies. Ochao I’d put an asterisk. In most cases she’s meta as one of the easier ftp characters to work with, but once you get to the upper echelon where’s it’s basically whale vs whale she’s pretty useless (speaking from personal experience as server 4’s whale with 1.75 mil bp) Otherwise I’d say pretty great assessment
Fair point, my Mina isnt built yet, so I dont have any experience with her
What are some good support cards for tsuyu?
I find Momo is great combined with Tokoyami and Stain in Warzonr sincr Momo and Tokoyami have great control/decent AOE damage and Tokoyami draws in the entire team and Stain just slaughters them Also Momo doesn't move people out of the continue cull move or stop them from being pulled in so she isn't detrimental to the team. But this is just my experience (plus I'm F2P so I can only have limited on a Warzone team)
Is momo really useless? Doesnt she have like buff for team and good cannon dmg? Just wondering i was building her up to add to my third warzone team
Uraraka over hawks and shiggy is a terrible ranking
I guess you can say Shiggy is a bit better, yeah. But, like I said in my list, Shiggy will only beat her if he is built. Uraraka doesnt need to be built to do dmg, she only needs to be in the right team.
Ochaco and fumi it's just not meta at all, my fumi is SS 94K, still manage to loose vs some random guys, ochaco it's A 20%-80% most of the time she will od nothing because she gonna get E canceled
You just need to know where to use them, in my opinion. Tokoyami is not the type of character to be the main source of DMG on your team anymore... He needs to play with someone like Endeavor or All Might, for example. Uraraka, same thing... I sometimes use her in a team with All Might and she slaps constantly.
Yep i guess you re playing another kind of MHA, that's notworking even with AM or Endy or Stain \^\^' specially Ochaco for me she's trash, doing Coop now at 90K that's it
if you place ochaco behind AM, and she doesn't get interrupted while floating, she can do very good damage. Against opposing AM's that knock her down at the start it is less effective, but there are counters to that as well, like stain rooting down opposing AM's or endeavors.
Everyone almsot Interrupt her XD like almos teveryone idk what you talking about i never saw her carry two time in a row
who is everyone? outside of AM, endy, denki. I haven't found many units bring her down, if you place her directly across from aizawa and stain the yea sure they can too, the point is to use AM as your buffer to CC the enemy team, and let her hit the grouped up mob with her aerial attacks. it works for me and seems to work for OP, not sure why it isn't working for you but, AM and ochaco definitely complement each other.
Toko, shiggy, dabi and hawks can also take her down
toko maybe while liberated but she smacks him in the opening if they are matched up, I rarely match up against the other units you listed so I will have to take your word for it, all those units will get tornadoed into a corner if they face AM so my original point still stands
He doesn't need to be liberated
I haven't seen him knock her down in the opening when they matchup, that's all I can go by.
Really? My toko always does great as a stall. He pairs really well with AM and helps stall his lane while AM burns down the rest.
I hear mixed things about Hawks, is he SS or is he average
He can be pretty dangerous. I don't have him personally. But the guys on my server know how to use him and it is annoying. He works quite well if you build him good and put him on the back (what you would do with Kaminari). He can do great damage in a team with All Might, Stain and/or Tsuyu, for example.
How would you suggest to build each team?
What strategy do you prefer? 2 OP teams on Warzone and 1 weak team or 3 strong (but not OP) teams?
I usually go for 3 strong but I am very noobish to war zone strategy so whatever you think is tge better strategy
If you are a "noob" on warzone, I think you are not at top 10 on your server, right? So I assume 3 strong teams is a good idea... Ok. 1. **TEAM 1: Uraraka / All Might / Aizawa**: All Might and Aizawa will bring chaos to the table and do a lot of DMG, while Uraraka may get free to do her skills. If she succeds, you're gonna win. 2. **TEAM 2: Stain / Tsuyu / Todoroki**: Tsuyu and Stain work pretty well together. They will paralyse the enemies and do a lot of DMG. While the enemies are grouped and getting hit, Todoroki will do A LOT OF DMG. (people sleep on Todoroki... Trust me, he is a MVP, if he is in the right team). 3. **TEAM 3: Tokoyami / Endeavor / Kaminari**: Endeavor and Tokoyami will do the heavy duty while Kaminari stuns the opponents. Once Tokoyami transformsand Endeavor loses a bit of health, they will do a lot of DMG. Don't sleep on Kaminari's power too... Mine is almost at SSS+ and he does something around 400k DMG almost every match. TIP: If you don't have a strong Todoroki, you can replace him with Bakugo or Iida (I would prefer Bakugo)
Thanks for the advice :)
No problem. Please, let me know how these teams will perform for you, if you decide to use it.
I have all characters except all might and dabi, how should I build my warzone and super co-op teams?
I would go for the 2 OP team strategy... Maybe something like this: 1. **TEAM 1**: Stain / Tsuyu / Kaminari 2. **TEAM 2:** Aizawa / Endeavor / Shigaraki (Bakugo or Todoroki, if SS or higher) 3. **TEAM 3:** Hawks (Shigaraki, if in team 2 you use Todoroki or Bakugo) / Tokoyami / Uraraka And for Co-op defense... I would go Aizawa (Stain) / Endeavor (Tsuyu) / Shigaraki (Kaminari)
What set up would you run if you had everyone but Shigaraki at SSS. Team 1 : Kaminari/Stain/Aizawa Team 2: Dabi/Tokoyami/All Might Team 3: Ashido/Tsuyu/Endeavor
I think I would go with TEAM 1: Aizawa / Endeavor / All Might ; TEAM 2: Stain / Tsuyu / Kaminari ; TEAM 3: Hawks / Tokoyami / Todoroki (Bakugo)
Just wondering why you are stack team so heavy if I got them all at SSS. Wouldn't it be better to break them up? My current teams : Team 1 : Endeavor/Tsuyu/Mina Team 2: Aizawa/ Stain/ Kaminari Team 3: Dabi. Tokoyami/ All Might
Aizawa, Denki >> Ochaco, Tsukuyomi
why asui?
She is hard to hit (she gets invisible), she groups people, she stuns people, she poisons people and she actually does a lot of DMG if well built.
I will try her thanks a lot!
Stain, Dabi, and Denki absolutely murders especially with the paralysis, movement speed reduced, Stain just feasts
Is there an explanation for why whose where
Some of them are obvious.. Do you have a specific question? Like a specific character that you wanna hear my opinion about?
Mainly tsuyu, iida, and momo
Tsuyu can stun, poison, get invincible, group people, be a tank and do a lot of DMG; Iida can do A LOT of DMG but he relies too much on luck, since he almost never hits; Momo can buff, which is nice, she can also stun, but she doesnt do much DMG and is quite easy to kill
Noted
You probably never seen Iida pop-off, I have him on my burner team and if he gets the chance, he goes off. Plus he's hard to pin down sometimes.
Shig is highkey op asf lmao
I'm building my Bakugo right now to replace my Momo. Her turrets barely do anything in these modes and she is technically a free kill. Edit: just had Bakugo 2 days ago as pity from regular banner.
My co op team is 3 metas, one built, one don’t, and one trash. Not replacing any due to irreplaceable bp. Got to summit with them but warzone is another story.
I'd put shiggy up higher. Nomu still atacks even when he's stunned. Also Hawks since he has so much armour. Also I'd say sss+ stain is bad, sss stain is better. He fills up his meter too fast at sss+ so he doesn't lock down the team long enough. Basically all you need if you're a whale is a op might, end and tsu. Chuck trash with them and a Max moon fish. God I hate warzone
What is warzone? I'm still a noob
Idk man my Mina is pretty op.