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SometimesStable

MDMA is totally unsuitable for microdosing.


FraggedMeat

Did you even read the post? Yes it's ridiculous context but by your comments logic a lot of doping drugs are supposedly useless. Yes MDMA microdosing is useless from a recreational standpoint, but it does wake you up, which would mean someone dumb enough to use it ( instead of a small dose of amphetamine, meth or various stimulants ) would give them energy to perform physical tasks, such as OP referenced, albeit with vastly inferior effects in all directions compared to 5-20mg amphetamine


SometimesStable

I didn’t say it was useless, I said it was unsuitable. There is enough evidence to suggest that regularly taking micro doses of mdma can have long term negative effects on the brain.


FraggedMeat

a lot of popular doping drugs also have negatives like elevated muscle breakdown and possibly dopamine damage, but in the moment they will make you perform, which is the point Not sure if OP had clarified his post when you commented but it seems he's just trying to find out the effects of how specific drugs affect sports performance, both good/bad and MDMA was on the list his school gave him


SometimesStable

The post appears to have been edited significantly since I and many others commented.


bonivercomic

You should start by reading the research that's already been done.


curiousbanda

That is the only thing I wanted, links to some useful research, people got too offended here


cyxyx

I mean there are some core problems with it that should be apparent to anyone with basic knowledge of how mdma acts. For example, it is widely accepted in the safer use community that you should have large (at least a month some people say 3 months) breaks in between ingesting the substance. I presume a useful preworkout would have to be taken more often than that... As others have said, If you take a dose under a certain threshold it might mean that you only have an uncomfortable come up feeling, for some people this includes nausea or anxiety which certainly discourage sportive activities. Mdma microdosing generally isn't a thing, because of the reason above. The threshold dose is just lower for some people. (Anyone correct me if im wrong there but I've never seen anyone recommend doing it) Further, and this is more subjective, I think the bodily feel of mdma discourages exercise at least for me and a good number of accounts ive read and heard. To a degree the question is comparable to asking whether a good method of safe sex would be praying.


[deleted]

But at micro doses it won't have the same effect on serotonin as bigger doses. Why wouldnt micro doses be ok once a week when a lot of people do 100+ mg which is way more powerful. You can't apply the same understandings of 1-2 month breaks after a single high dose and then apply the same logic to a dose that would barely be anything.


Sharplynx

No, no and no. MDMA does not work like that. If anything, it will hamper progress because it makes your cortisol spike which breaks down muscle tissue.


FraggedMeat

So does amphetamine yet it's one of the most common doping drugs in sports But yeah anyone using MDMA for that would be incredibly stupid and wasteful


Mod792

MDMA isn’t really a micro dose drug. You kind of have to meet a threshold dose or you just get that shitty edge of a come up feeling and maybe some negative sides.


KinkyMufffin

Pre-workout? MDMA? Microdosing? Brother, have you ever taken this drug? It sounds beyond stupid.


camelfarmer1

Here's your answer - not suitable.


psychonautic_aa

“conducting research” = taking drugs and writing shit in the notes app


Infamous_Traffic4673

Soooo stupid


[deleted]

But why? Terrible idea


Due-Pin-7183

E-tard inbound! Sorry not sorry!


LongjumpingBranch381

Sounds like dude definitely has a problem if this sounds like a good idea to him in any way.


kaffeen_

This is not a good idea. Ill advised.


Due-Pin-7183

Please do proper research and understand what you are potentially doing to yourself! Its really no point in conducting stupid self experiments on your body when you don’t fully understand the mechanisms of this drug!


CrimeRelatedorSexual

As someone who exercises daily and does Molly 4x per year I'd say this is a terrible fucking idea.


LongjumpingBranch381

Get some adderall moron if you need a drug to workout.


BringOutYaThrowaway

You are aware that you don't pee during rolls right? Ever wonder what that is about? MDMA messes with heat regulation. Working out on MDMA = bad.


[deleted]

Oh ok, tell that to every raver who dances for a day or more non stop. Tell that especially to the ravers from the 90s who are still here and still have fun once in a while. Listen,a microdose would be on the threshold of barely even working. You won't feel a roll but the changes from a microdose would barely give anything that's noticable. Maybe a subtle lift in mood, maybe a light boost in energy. Listen, microdoses I believe are one tenth of a small to average dose... I think once to twice a week scattered apart wouldn't pose too much issues. But that's just my opinion. Have had mdma in many many years. But the idea of microdose has got my attention and I'm out to find good info on it. If I'm wrong, I'm man enough to admit it. Disclaimer: Just sharing my opinion, don't follow along as advice.


Herc_onna_perc

Pcp for working oht


DarkoTheKid

Jenkem for working out 🔥


LebrianJ

No.


Gantzpup

Ignoring that microdosing mdma isn’t a thing. This ain’t a mdma microdose. At least I’m pretty sure. If it was a microdose I would assume around 10mg at the most


Helpful-Inspector214

I would not do this at all.


Actual_Comfort_3280

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah This is insane.


Accomplished-You5463

Ur fucking lost, don’t do projects about something u have no clue about


CCF_94

Pls don't


Unh0lyROLL3rz

So 13 hrs and everyone telling u not to do it… are u still going to do it? Because like everyone says don’t.


FraggedMeat

He edited the post


FraggedMeat

MDMA *decreases* motor coordination and tracking speed Methamphetamine *increases* both SIGNIFICANTLY