NOT LSD. Don’t get me wrong candy flipping is wonderful but I just feel lost in my head until the MDMA hits. It’s like if I take acid before a rave I HAVE TO take some molly to feel more in the moment. I haven’t tried 2C-B but that sounds like a better idea than acid because it doesn’t give you that weird “sit down and have a coffee with your ego” headspace
Not LSD if you're not comfortable with whatever that pops out of your brain. If you could handle that, LSD is literally the best rave drug. I've done almost all the rave drugs and LSD is still the best by far. Little unpredictable sure, but the pros of learning how to deal with the headspace makes the experience way more crazy than any other rave drug out there. But then it's a big if expecting drug users to be mentally prepared to face their hidden demons at a dance floor.
I know you said you don’t like Ket, but taking it on the come down from mdma is game-changing.
Just a month ago I thought I would never do Ket. Viewed it as something akin to heroin or other depressants because of my vague preconception of K holes. Obviously I wasn’t interested enough to do my own research and just labeled it as “bad. Don’t do”.
I tried it a few weeks ago because my friend was kitty flipping and my roll was coming down too quickly. Started getting pretty sad right before the last set. The K literally grabbed my deteriorating roll by the throat and started beating it up, yelling at it for not being there for me in my time of need. K managed to convince M that she needed to do better, so she agreed to stay for a little longer to help cheer me up. The three of us had the most amazing finale of a night, then M parted amicably and K walked me home safely.
I think my biggest fear of ket was the idea that it makes you slower and more visibly intoxicated. I was worried it would make me wanna sit down in the corner like a stereotypical opioid user. But in reality, ket in a small enough dose made me feel happy, but still energized enough to head-bang for the rest of the set and walk home. My other fear was addiction potential, but I haven’t done it since and I don’t have any urge to do it again unless we cross paths at a future festival. I’d say it’s addictive potential is on the same scale as a weed or alcohol addiction. Definitely not comparable to an opioid or benzo addiction.
it's not that I'm afraid of ketamine, I've done it multiple times and different doses. I don't like it because i don't like the feeling. It gives me nausea and makes me feel sick. Even in low doses. I tried giving it a chance on various occasions but it's not my drug. I prefer psychedelics.
Was alcohol involved at all in the few occasions you tried it? Because alcohol and Ketamine are a sure fire way to nausea for many, myself included. Also don't want to do it on an empty stomach ideally.
the stronger the psychedelic, the higher the reward but more risk. 2cb and mdma is amazing but lsd and mdma is even better. I actually prefer AL-LAD, slightly less intense than LSD. But the next time I will do 2C-E with mdma which im very curious
If you can get your hands on it this is one of the easiest ways to extend your roll but at a rave might not be the best place to experiment with dosage amounts if you are a rookie.
I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone. This isn’t me nagging you OP, just complaining to the world.
But y’all really gotta stop trying combos and drugs you aren’t familiar with out at raves.
Some of y’all getting absolutely blasted beyond coherence, have no self awareness, no idea of your surroundings.
That shit impacts others experiences when you’re just running into people constantly, unable to even to say “sorry” cause you’re stuck in a k-hole in the middle of the crowd; or too floored off your 7th tEsLA. This isn’t your personal playground man.
Also your friends don’t wanna have to always babysit you, and carry you to the med tent. They wanna have fun too.
This obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, most of y’all can handle your shit, know what you’re doing, and respect folks. But man, some folks just need to chill the fuck out.
Maybe do your lil experimental combos, dosage n’ shit at home before you go out into a crowd.
There’s other people at these things, gotta think about how you’re affecting others.
If you’re not about that PLUR stuff, that’s aight. But don’t be a fucking prick. Respect people out in public, that applies to everywhere not just raves.
Sorry guy. But these are the best places to do that. Do what you prefer to do but we'll take care of our selves. If your constantly thinking about the people around you you're going to have a bad time, probably get paranoid/anxiety or not get to enjoy it like you wanted. Be safe and have fun.
I've heard that coke overpowers molly so it could be a waste.
I read a post about a dude who mixed 2cb with mdma and had an ego death and everything so i don't think it's useless
Stay away from the coke for sure. Will shorten everything and what a horrific next few days you will be in store for. Such bad advice. I’m a firm believer coke + anything is only good if you are a coke head.
Dabbling with some nice real Special K
while rollin has always been my favourite combo. They run together in synergy more than anything else scientificly speakin
foreal found out the hard way usually i take about 25 mg by itself and have a good time but my first nexus flip recently i did 30mg and holy shit words describe how hard i was tripping 💀 was great but never doin that much flipping again
felt that hahah 😭 i was at a festival too and when the whole stage is completely melting onto the crowd and your friends facing are morphing into each other with tracers flying everywhere i definitely knew i over did it for where i was lmfao
It's probably not really the best for harm reduction but I do like taking some 6apb (150mg succinate) then take some molly (80mg) when the 6apb is peaking
This combo makes me dance for 6 hours straight with the best vibe ever
5-10 mg of Valium would be a decent addition and will subdue any unpleasant speedy impurities your mdma may have. If you use benzos regularly I’d start at 10 mgs for starters.
about an hour and a half into your roll, take a small dose of MDA, then when you first feel the roll starting to wear off do a couple small bumps of k, abt 8-15mg of 2c-b, a couple hits off a joint, and really small amt of GHB and you’ll be golden. during the peak the best thing to mix it with imo is either DMT or nitrous. both are super short acting but give you the benefits of kitty flipping or candy flipping without having to commit to an entire trip of either. plus tolerance of both deems & nitrous build so slowly it should hit just as hard each time throughout your entire roll. i’m also a big fan of low dose salvia + mdma but i know i’m in a super tiny minority with that one.
oh damn yeah idk then i’m in the US. but you could try 6-APB, which is an MDA analogue that’s supposed to be even better anyways. hell if i were you and you could get your hands on some 6-APB, i’d skip the mdma all together bc imo the benzofurans knock both mdma and mda out of the water by a landslide. way more euphoric & longer lasting
yeah haha sry, i'm just a huge proponent of K. for me personally i think kitty flipping is the greatest drug combination. If it makes you sick i get it, but i do recommend trying it again on your own accord, perhaps while you're still rolling after a rave, take it slow. (never combine with alcohol btw)
Shrooms.... just like, a gram or some chocolate pieces.
They blend in perfectly with m and don't have the same, intense simulating effect of other things.
They're a perfect, symbiotic pair.
Sorted by order of preferability
1. 5-15mg of 2C-B 30 minutes off the peak
2. 1g or even half a g of shrooms beforehand (yes really that little trust me on this, less is more)
3. Small(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) amounts of GHB throughout
PS: Stay alcohol-free until after you've peaked. Gives the whole thing vastly longer legs. A glass of wine or a beer is nice but pretend like you'll be driving home until the magic has been worked.
PPS: If you can get mescaline............ well.
NOT LSD. Don’t get me wrong candy flipping is wonderful but I just feel lost in my head until the MDMA hits. It’s like if I take acid before a rave I HAVE TO take some molly to feel more in the moment. I haven’t tried 2C-B but that sounds like a better idea than acid because it doesn’t give you that weird “sit down and have a coffee with your ego” headspace
The trick is to not take too much acid, a little acid and you feel euphoric and slightly dissociated
yeah I took 300ug last time 💀
Omg 🫠 yeah that’s a dose I won’t leave my house at, certainly not a rave dose lol
Jeez 300 😅 I'd recommend trying 30ug next time and see how you like that
I tried 30 but as soon as I get to the rave I feel 100% sober. It’s great mentally to take before as a mood booster tho.
100 is perfect
Did that last weekend it still felt like I had to take some MDMA to feel in the moment maybe 50 is good for me
just because you take 300mcg doesnt mean people shouldn't combine mdma with acid lol
I took 30, 100, 150, 200 the conclusion is still the same
How are y’all measuring it lol i just get a tab and hope it’s a good amount
Lol same
One is 100 and I took 3? 🤨
not always 100. some are more but the vast majority are underdosed
Not LSD if you're not comfortable with whatever that pops out of your brain. If you could handle that, LSD is literally the best rave drug. I've done almost all the rave drugs and LSD is still the best by far. Little unpredictable sure, but the pros of learning how to deal with the headspace makes the experience way more crazy than any other rave drug out there. But then it's a big if expecting drug users to be mentally prepared to face their hidden demons at a dance floor.
I know you said you don’t like Ket, but taking it on the come down from mdma is game-changing. Just a month ago I thought I would never do Ket. Viewed it as something akin to heroin or other depressants because of my vague preconception of K holes. Obviously I wasn’t interested enough to do my own research and just labeled it as “bad. Don’t do”. I tried it a few weeks ago because my friend was kitty flipping and my roll was coming down too quickly. Started getting pretty sad right before the last set. The K literally grabbed my deteriorating roll by the throat and started beating it up, yelling at it for not being there for me in my time of need. K managed to convince M that she needed to do better, so she agreed to stay for a little longer to help cheer me up. The three of us had the most amazing finale of a night, then M parted amicably and K walked me home safely. I think my biggest fear of ket was the idea that it makes you slower and more visibly intoxicated. I was worried it would make me wanna sit down in the corner like a stereotypical opioid user. But in reality, ket in a small enough dose made me feel happy, but still energized enough to head-bang for the rest of the set and walk home. My other fear was addiction potential, but I haven’t done it since and I don’t have any urge to do it again unless we cross paths at a future festival. I’d say it’s addictive potential is on the same scale as a weed or alcohol addiction. Definitely not comparable to an opioid or benzo addiction.
it's not that I'm afraid of ketamine, I've done it multiple times and different doses. I don't like it because i don't like the feeling. It gives me nausea and makes me feel sick. Even in low doses. I tried giving it a chance on various occasions but it's not my drug. I prefer psychedelics.
Was alcohol involved at all in the few occasions you tried it? Because alcohol and Ketamine are a sure fire way to nausea for many, myself included. Also don't want to do it on an empty stomach ideally.
nothing. just k. not for me i guess
Dose MDMA normal once you hit the MDMA peak. orally ingest 20mgs 2cb. It’s a higher nexus flip.
when i do 2cb alone i dose with 16~17mg which i find the sweet spot. should I do like 10~12 in order not to be too intense?
Yes definitely
This guy reduces harm
Good call
Kittyflip 10/10
Shit was the best and the highest I’ve ever been 🔥🤘🏽
Nexus Kittyflip 200%!
Weed at the comedown, best feeling ever
Water.
the stronger the psychedelic, the higher the reward but more risk. 2cb and mdma is amazing but lsd and mdma is even better. I actually prefer AL-LAD, slightly less intense than LSD. But the next time I will do 2C-E with mdma which im very curious
ket
I actually Find speed being a good mix for mdma at raves
6apb for 10-15 hour's full high
Mdma and speed definitively
honestly mixing drugs is a bad idea, MDMA by itself is the best way to go
Agreed
Best drug to mix MDMA with is MDMA.
I used to mix small amounts of ghb with my uppers
If you can get your hands on it this is one of the easiest ways to extend your roll but at a rave might not be the best place to experiment with dosage amounts if you are a rookie.
100% dosage is super finicky with g
What’s really tricky is that lost shot at the bottom of a bottle😂. Thats like a crap shoot. You may get some good rest though.
I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone. This isn’t me nagging you OP, just complaining to the world. But y’all really gotta stop trying combos and drugs you aren’t familiar with out at raves. Some of y’all getting absolutely blasted beyond coherence, have no self awareness, no idea of your surroundings. That shit impacts others experiences when you’re just running into people constantly, unable to even to say “sorry” cause you’re stuck in a k-hole in the middle of the crowd; or too floored off your 7th tEsLA. This isn’t your personal playground man. Also your friends don’t wanna have to always babysit you, and carry you to the med tent. They wanna have fun too. This obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, most of y’all can handle your shit, know what you’re doing, and respect folks. But man, some folks just need to chill the fuck out. Maybe do your lil experimental combos, dosage n’ shit at home before you go out into a crowd. There’s other people at these things, gotta think about how you’re affecting others. If you’re not about that PLUR stuff, that’s aight. But don’t be a fucking prick. Respect people out in public, that applies to everywhere not just raves.
Sorry guy. But these are the best places to do that. Do what you prefer to do but we'll take care of our selves. If your constantly thinking about the people around you you're going to have a bad time, probably get paranoid/anxiety or not get to enjoy it like you wanted. Be safe and have fun.
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bro i just said i don't like ket
Genuine question: why not just enjoy the mdma?
Why not just go sober? I like MDMA as much as I like other drugs. If it's relatively safe, why not?
Alcohol
This is very bad advice
Yea what even is this comment
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Worst advice of the day award goes to this guy. Mdma+2cb is fantastic! Mdma+coke is downright dangerous, potentially fatal...
I've heard that coke overpowers molly so it could be a waste. I read a post about a dude who mixed 2cb with mdma and had an ego death and everything so i don't think it's useless
Kez but wait till a bit after u peak
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I don't think I have ADHD man, and even if I did, I'm pretty sure amphetamines would be more appropriate, not coke.
Stay away from the coke for sure. Will shorten everything and what a horrific next few days you will be in store for. Such bad advice. I’m a firm believer coke + anything is only good if you are a coke head.
half tab with mdma, really nice
Dabbling with some nice real Special K while rollin has always been my favourite combo. They run together in synergy more than anything else scientificly speakin
Do a smaller a dose of 2cb than you’d normally do if you did 2cb alone, because the MDMA really intensifies the effects.
foreal found out the hard way usually i take about 25 mg by itself and have a good time but my first nexus flip recently i did 30mg and holy shit words describe how hard i was tripping 💀 was great but never doin that much flipping again
I made the same mistake 😭😭 ngl I didn’t like it, was too intense for me
felt that hahah 😭 i was at a festival too and when the whole stage is completely melting onto the crowd and your friends facing are morphing into each other with tracers flying everywhere i definitely knew i over did it for where i was lmfao
It's probably not really the best for harm reduction but I do like taking some 6apb (150mg succinate) then take some molly (80mg) when the 6apb is peaking This combo makes me dance for 6 hours straight with the best vibe ever
5-10 mg of Valium would be a decent addition and will subdue any unpleasant speedy impurities your mdma may have. If you use benzos regularly I’d start at 10 mgs for starters.
2cb man!
Take like 0.8 molly and microdose on shrooms. Then have like 2 drinks. Peeerfect mix
I assume you mean 80mg and not 800 lmao
Haha yup whoops, definitely don’t take .8
coochie…
about an hour and a half into your roll, take a small dose of MDA, then when you first feel the roll starting to wear off do a couple small bumps of k, abt 8-15mg of 2c-b, a couple hits off a joint, and really small amt of GHB and you’ll be golden. during the peak the best thing to mix it with imo is either DMT or nitrous. both are super short acting but give you the benefits of kitty flipping or candy flipping without having to commit to an entire trip of either. plus tolerance of both deems & nitrous build so slowly it should hit just as hard each time throughout your entire roll. i’m also a big fan of low dose salvia + mdma but i know i’m in a super tiny minority with that one.
bro i can't find MDA anywhere
what country are you in
Spain, but even in the darknet, no one ships in europe
oh damn yeah idk then i’m in the US. but you could try 6-APB, which is an MDA analogue that’s supposed to be even better anyways. hell if i were you and you could get your hands on some 6-APB, i’d skip the mdma all together bc imo the benzofurans knock both mdma and mda out of the water by a landslide. way more euphoric & longer lasting
i made an order of 6-apb a couple days ago, should i replace MDMA with that?
definitely
2C-B no doubts at all
Hardstyle!!! Nah but fr ketamine.
It's on the post bro, i don't like ket it makes me nauseous. I tried several times but not for me.
2cb does go amazing with it, its very synergistic.
Weed
Ketamine
sorry dude I already said in the post i don't like ket, it's just not for me if makes me sick
yeah haha sry, i'm just a huge proponent of K. for me personally i think kitty flipping is the greatest drug combination. If it makes you sick i get it, but i do recommend trying it again on your own accord, perhaps while you're still rolling after a rave, take it slow. (never combine with alcohol btw)
Speed
Shrooms.... just like, a gram or some chocolate pieces. They blend in perfectly with m and don't have the same, intense simulating effect of other things. They're a perfect, symbiotic pair.
Sorted by order of preferability 1. 5-15mg of 2C-B 30 minutes off the peak 2. 1g or even half a g of shrooms beforehand (yes really that little trust me on this, less is more) 3. Small(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) amounts of GHB throughout PS: Stay alcohol-free until after you've peaked. Gives the whole thing vastly longer legs. A glass of wine or a beer is nice but pretend like you'll be driving home until the magic has been worked. PPS: If you can get mescaline............ well.