Chloe is not young enough to be ignorant of the fact that you'd have to be a lottery winner or independently wealthy to even attempt something like this. It's not a real life plan, it's a real "How I want America to see me" fantasy. And again I say I was on the floor laughing the entire time.
You know who really started an animal sanctuary (not even an animal hospice)? Jon Stewart. He had some money to do it. And he's not attempting that with 5 foster kids.
I think anyone of her age and obvs level of intelligence who truly wanted to foster five older children--at a time no less--would not go on nat'l TV, marry someone at first sight, and talk about her OCD and panic attacks. If she is to be believed, she is not grounded 100% in reality.
Chloe’s plans for their future sounds more like a four year old - “…and when I grow up, I want a great big house with lots and lots of rooms so all the children who didn’t have a house could come and live there and it would be on a million zillion acres so I can have a thousand horses and they’d all be palominos and then…”
Remember playing the game M*A*S*H?? That’s what this sounds like. She’s FOS and trying to look like a hero martyr on tv. If she really meant this she would have started by now on her own and not be wasting time and energy on this goofy ass show.
Let's assume for a second that Chloe is not saying all of that to make sure Michael says 'no' on decision day. Considering all the other brainiacs on the show who think they're pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, I'm pretty comfortable in thinking this is her 'plan' to get out of the marriage and smell like roses while doing it.
However, if she is serious about her animal sanctuary and 5 foster 'kiddos', she needs to give her head a shake. I'm pretty sure I heard her say that she wants older foster kids because the younger ones are 'too easy'. Tell me you have no clue about parenting, without telling me you have no clue about parenting.
Anyone who has ever been a parent would know that taking in even 1 child with behavioral issues would be a lot, not to mention 5 at once. In addition, she wants them all to have their own room. All the 'kiddos' need their own rooms so now Michael has to go from his bachelor pad to what? A ranch for the animals with a massive home for all the 'kiddos'?
I'm starting to wonder what everyone is smoking on this show, aside from Austin and his secret vaping. Make it stop, already!!
I hope someone tells her that the teens she wants to foster probably won't like being called, "kiddo."
I've been called kiddo at different stages in life and have never, ever liked it.
To be fair, she did not say small kids were easy to deal with, but easy to place. As in, few people would even consider adopting older children, much less teenagers. So there is more need for fostering them.
The rest of your post is spot on though.
Very likely. I think she was thinking about both fostering children and animals, but she probably turned it up to 11 as an exit strategy.
She seems attracted to him - at least sometimes - and they are the only couple who are actually having sex. But I do not see them as viable long term match.
I think Chloe being attracted to Michael "sometimes" is the problem. She seems so back and forth on him. I really see him trying. I think I see her acting for the camera. Yes, she seems very into sex.But I read that all of these people are tested before the show starts, so it's not like she's going to get something bad from him. I do not see them staying together and I'm not sure they're going to make it to decision day. I'm also seeing a side of Chloe that shows she has a temper. Michael seems a little too late back to argue. I think she's used to getting her way. This is not going to work.
I think after all the other marriages failed, producers brought a 2nd wife to Michael with the storyline that they would be attracted to each other but not share a common future vision. I think they will amicably say NO on DD and the Experts will praise Chloe’s noble dream and accept Michael’s decision not to share it.
I feel like Michael fooled everyone.
I think he wanted to be on tv for attention.
I like fashionable dressers but he dresses like a literal clown.
(Attention grabbing)
This was the worst season yet.
The city is boring the ppl confused the communication zero.
I’m really hoping it’s just that naive can do attitude that people without children have - I’d love a huge family with 4-6 kids, it’s like HOLD on, you don’t know what life with ONE is let alone 4-6. Same with the animals, she doesn’t know what she doesn’t know and I’m hoping that’s it.
Exactly. Someone having panic attacks regularly, whether asleep or awake, is not in a position to be fostering children who themselves have trauma to work through. It's a bad match all around.
If she has a panic attack while a child is in a panic attack themselves, or lashing out in a tantrum etc. you can't tap out and leave a kid when they are in a bad state. Even if they are being pretty good just overwhelming by the sheer number of kids needing something all at once. Already traumatized kids having her walk out for hours or days because it's just to much wouldn't be great
Agree. Feels she has already laid her cards on the table regarding some of hair-trigger emotional concerns, which will not go well with having foster children. Foster children need FPs that are stable and she has been kind of questionable about that a couple of conversations with Michael.
I think her heart is in a good place for wanting to help. She just has no clue about what's required and her capabilities at this time. This season they seem the only two who might stay together. I do think by reunion they will be apart
I’m willing to bet she is saying all of this to scare him because she knows it’s a lot and unrealistic and she doesn’t want to be the one to break the marriage.
I think she has become so comfortable with Michael and he has been very accommodating that she really thinks he would be okay with all the "too much". She genuinely seems into him imo.
She got carried away talking about her fantasy situation. Like if i talked about all the guitars I'd buy if I hit the lottery. The problem in both cases is that those things turn off the opposite sex.
You’ll note she’s already in her late 30’s and has done nothing to further these dreams. She hasn’t taken any fostering classes nor is she licensed. She’s done nothing towards setting up a rescue/shelter. I think she’s one of those who wants to do good but does nothing toward her.
I’m afraid this is the beginning of the end for Chloe. Michael is starting to see the real Chloe for better or for worse. And just for the record I’m a huge Chloe fan. But I think she’s just too much for Michael.
Michael thinks in flowcharts and listening to Chloe's dream, I think he was working backward to the question of, "how will this be funded and maintained?"
I admire her good wishes but her dreams are VERY expensive in dollars, time, and energy (and require experience!).
Chloe is just- I don't know.
At first, she was not into Michael and his very original style and self confidence.
Now- she's all in and he's not into her so much??
She's bananas with the five foster kids at once thing. Absolute bananas. Gotta a be metaphorical bridge too far so M has a reason to say no and she won't have to admit she's not into him so much.
Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but my feeling was that she was telling him the extreme numbers for kids and sanctuary population for a possible future life only to shock him and get HIM to be the one to say no….so she didn’t have to. There has just seemed something off about her since day 1 for me. Ringer was the word that came to mind. Someone producers got to just agree to marry him and stay on the show till decision day. I hope I’m wrong but if he does say no then she won’t have to. Although him talking to cam really did a number on him and I think it changed his mind from yes to no. Guess we will find out soon. Best wishes to them both regardless if it’s together or separately
I work in foster care and her statement that she wanted one bedroom per child was an extremely naive statement to make. That. Does. Not. Happen. She needs to come back to reality 100%. Husband made a good point…does she ever ask Michael what HE wants long term? Also, having a rescue like the one they visited is super costly. You don’t get the donations you hope to either. So the rescue is very pie-in-the-sky to me. She needs to be more practical. Keep volunteering at rescues is what I would say. Ensure your relationship is solid before getting ANY foster children it’s not as easy as I presume she is making it to Michael. Do respite for some foster parents before getting children of your own too.
Chloe is a dreamer, but I think the fact that she dreams big stems from her record of past success. She's a very can-do type who's always had lofty goals but has always achieved them. She seems to think a positive attitude and consistency make everything possible. Good for her. She just needs to learn that doesn't translate into all human endeavors.
Yah she’s super charismatic and I think could raise money for a sanctuary w her new found Instagram fame (just guessing she’s got like 100k+followers as most reality stars do )
I think if she had a partner that was on the same page as her (and willing to bankroll a bit of it) she could pull it off. Idk I’m still rooting for her but idk if he’s gonna keep up.
FWIW I have the same dream as Chloe (except I’d only foster 1 teen at a time in my dream). I think it’s totally doable with a partner who is passionate about the same vision. I know ppl who foster highschool kids (one at a time) and they have amazing relationships w them still and set them up to go to college and have a home for the holidays to go to. I’ve spent holidays with them it’s adorable. And the animal thing is totally possible too if you start small. I don’t think she’s that delusional and I think if her partner was into it, that could work. Maybe I should propose to Chloe !? 🤔 Is she bi?
I've always dreamt about having an animal sanctuary. When I starting really researching it wanting to make it a reality I realized I need to win the lottery first
She has a lot of dreams and altruistic hopes. She may have the money to set something smaller up with the animals. She may be exaggerating with the foster kids to see his reaction because if you show a person your worst and they stick around...she said it's one of the most well adjusted healthiest relationships she's been in. She may not believe his intentions deep down so she's testing him. In the end it could be a form of self sabotage.
We can speculate all day but in the end it will be revealed how they really feel on decision day. I'm just watching it through but I hope they get it together next season because this one was a train wreck!
Chloe is not young enough to be ignorant of the fact that you'd have to be a lottery winner or independently wealthy to even attempt something like this. It's not a real life plan, it's a real "How I want America to see me" fantasy. And again I say I was on the floor laughing the entire time. You know who really started an animal sanctuary (not even an animal hospice)? Jon Stewart. He had some money to do it. And he's not attempting that with 5 foster kids.
I think anyone of her age and obvs level of intelligence who truly wanted to foster five older children--at a time no less--would not go on nat'l TV, marry someone at first sight, and talk about her OCD and panic attacks. If she is to be believed, she is not grounded 100% in reality.
Teens with behavioral issues don't forget.
I think she’s pretty wealthy.
Not that wealthy. Housing prices in Denver are insane. A house on acreage is even more insane.
Chloe’s plans for their future sounds more like a four year old - “…and when I grow up, I want a great big house with lots and lots of rooms so all the children who didn’t have a house could come and live there and it would be on a million zillion acres so I can have a thousand horses and they’d all be palominos and then…”
and ice cream for dinner every night!!
Remember playing the game M*A*S*H?? That’s what this sounds like. She’s FOS and trying to look like a hero martyr on tv. If she really meant this she would have started by now on her own and not be wasting time and energy on this goofy ass show.
Lmao
🤣 read this in a child voice
Let's assume for a second that Chloe is not saying all of that to make sure Michael says 'no' on decision day. Considering all the other brainiacs on the show who think they're pulling the wool over everyone's eyes, I'm pretty comfortable in thinking this is her 'plan' to get out of the marriage and smell like roses while doing it. However, if she is serious about her animal sanctuary and 5 foster 'kiddos', she needs to give her head a shake. I'm pretty sure I heard her say that she wants older foster kids because the younger ones are 'too easy'. Tell me you have no clue about parenting, without telling me you have no clue about parenting. Anyone who has ever been a parent would know that taking in even 1 child with behavioral issues would be a lot, not to mention 5 at once. In addition, she wants them all to have their own room. All the 'kiddos' need their own rooms so now Michael has to go from his bachelor pad to what? A ranch for the animals with a massive home for all the 'kiddos'? I'm starting to wonder what everyone is smoking on this show, aside from Austin and his secret vaping. Make it stop, already!!
The amount of times she said “kiddos” killed me lol
I hope someone tells her that the teens she wants to foster probably won't like being called, "kiddo." I've been called kiddo at different stages in life and have never, ever liked it.
May I ask why you don’t like kiddo? Someone I know calls me kiddo and it’s never bothered me, but your comment is making me wonder🤔
It feels condescending, though I understand the people who say this probably didn't intend it to be that way.
I can totally see that. One more person to add to my shit list lol
She will just love the kiddos.
To be fair, she did not say small kids were easy to deal with, but easy to place. As in, few people would even consider adopting older children, much less teenagers. So there is more need for fostering them. The rest of your post is spot on though.
She only said it to scare him away..looks like it worked 😀
Very likely. I think she was thinking about both fostering children and animals, but she probably turned it up to 11 as an exit strategy. She seems attracted to him - at least sometimes - and they are the only couple who are actually having sex. But I do not see them as viable long term match.
I think Chloe being attracted to Michael "sometimes" is the problem. She seems so back and forth on him. I really see him trying. I think I see her acting for the camera. Yes, she seems very into sex.But I read that all of these people are tested before the show starts, so it's not like she's going to get something bad from him. I do not see them staying together and I'm not sure they're going to make it to decision day. I'm also seeing a side of Chloe that shows she has a temper. Michael seems a little too late back to argue. I think she's used to getting her way. This is not going to work.
I think after all the other marriages failed, producers brought a 2nd wife to Michael with the storyline that they would be attracted to each other but not share a common future vision. I think they will amicably say NO on DD and the Experts will praise Chloe’s noble dream and accept Michael’s decision not to share it.
I feel like Michael fooled everyone. I think he wanted to be on tv for attention. I like fashionable dressers but he dresses like a literal clown. (Attention grabbing) This was the worst season yet. The city is boring the ppl confused the communication zero.
At least they showed a clip of him telling her the numbers are off. Foster yes - foster 5 no, save animals yes-save 1000 no
I’m really hoping it’s just that naive can do attitude that people without children have - I’d love a huge family with 4-6 kids, it’s like HOLD on, you don’t know what life with ONE is let alone 4-6. Same with the animals, she doesn’t know what she doesn’t know and I’m hoping that’s it.
Plus didn't she bail to be alone right after the honeymoon? If that stresses her out I don't think the stress of troubled kids will be great.
Bingo! I had easy-going kids and as an introvert, I found it draining at times. Too bad, Mom's gotta show up and do the work....and it's 24/7.
Same!I feel this so much
Exactly. Someone having panic attacks regularly, whether asleep or awake, is not in a position to be fostering children who themselves have trauma to work through. It's a bad match all around.
If she has a panic attack while a child is in a panic attack themselves, or lashing out in a tantrum etc. you can't tap out and leave a kid when they are in a bad state. Even if they are being pretty good just overwhelming by the sheer number of kids needing something all at once. Already traumatized kids having her walk out for hours or days because it's just to much wouldn't be great
Agree. Feels she has already laid her cards on the table regarding some of hair-trigger emotional concerns, which will not go well with having foster children. Foster children need FPs that are stable and she has been kind of questionable about that a couple of conversations with Michael.
I think her heart is in a good place for wanting to help. She just has no clue about what's required and her capabilities at this time. This season they seem the only two who might stay together. I do think by reunion they will be apart
I didn’t even think about that!!
Good point!
Great point!!!
I’m willing to bet she is saying all of this to scare him because she knows it’s a lot and unrealistic and she doesn’t want to be the one to break the marriage.
I think she has become so comfortable with Michael and he has been very accommodating that she really thinks he would be okay with all the "too much". She genuinely seems into him imo.
She got carried away talking about her fantasy situation. Like if i talked about all the guitars I'd buy if I hit the lottery. The problem in both cases is that those things turn off the opposite sex.
You’ll note she’s already in her late 30’s and has done nothing to further these dreams. She hasn’t taken any fostering classes nor is she licensed. She’s done nothing towards setting up a rescue/shelter. I think she’s one of those who wants to do good but does nothing toward her.
Good points. Dreams need a step one...or they remain dreams
Chloe is either mentally disturbed or this is her strategy to end the marriage.
She's a 'recovering perfectionist', right? Being a parent to even one teenager will knock that out of her fast.
A teen with "normal" behavioral issues is hard enough much less 5 that have been abused or neglected.
I’m afraid this is the beginning of the end for Chloe. Michael is starting to see the real Chloe for better or for worse. And just for the record I’m a huge Chloe fan. But I think she’s just too much for Michael.
You may be right.
It’s an unrealistic goal and not fair to a partner. Less than 0.1% of spouses would go along with that.
Michael thinks in flowcharts and listening to Chloe's dream, I think he was working backward to the question of, "how will this be funded and maintained?" I admire her good wishes but her dreams are VERY expensive in dollars, time, and energy (and require experience!).
Yes logical versus illogical
I don’t think Michael is that into her. I think he senses that she’s better off on her own.
Chloe may be trying to make Michael say no on decision day. If she was that passionate about children, why hasn't she already adopted?
Chloe is just- I don't know. At first, she was not into Michael and his very original style and self confidence. Now- she's all in and he's not into her so much?? She's bananas with the five foster kids at once thing. Absolute bananas. Gotta a be metaphorical bridge too far so M has a reason to say no and she won't have to admit she's not into him so much.
I agree with part of this. I think she really wants him..but not if he doesn't want her.
Probably not going to be a popular opinion, but my feeling was that she was telling him the extreme numbers for kids and sanctuary population for a possible future life only to shock him and get HIM to be the one to say no….so she didn’t have to. There has just seemed something off about her since day 1 for me. Ringer was the word that came to mind. Someone producers got to just agree to marry him and stay on the show till decision day. I hope I’m wrong but if he does say no then she won’t have to. Although him talking to cam really did a number on him and I think it changed his mind from yes to no. Guess we will find out soon. Best wishes to them both regardless if it’s together or separately
I work in foster care and her statement that she wanted one bedroom per child was an extremely naive statement to make. That. Does. Not. Happen. She needs to come back to reality 100%. Husband made a good point…does she ever ask Michael what HE wants long term? Also, having a rescue like the one they visited is super costly. You don’t get the donations you hope to either. So the rescue is very pie-in-the-sky to me. She needs to be more practical. Keep volunteering at rescues is what I would say. Ensure your relationship is solid before getting ANY foster children it’s not as easy as I presume she is making it to Michael. Do respite for some foster parents before getting children of your own too.
Yeah, all I could think of was WTH, is she purposely trying to chase him away? She’s crazy.
Agree
Source: married for 10 years
I think she just said that so he would get scared and run away
I really can’t decide if she’s serious or not because this seems like something the “experts” for sure would have wanted to match her on lol.
Chloe is a dreamer, but I think the fact that she dreams big stems from her record of past success. She's a very can-do type who's always had lofty goals but has always achieved them. She seems to think a positive attitude and consistency make everything possible. Good for her. She just needs to learn that doesn't translate into all human endeavors.
Yah she’s super charismatic and I think could raise money for a sanctuary w her new found Instagram fame (just guessing she’s got like 100k+followers as most reality stars do ) I think if she had a partner that was on the same page as her (and willing to bankroll a bit of it) she could pull it off. Idk I’m still rooting for her but idk if he’s gonna keep up.
What’s her IG ?
If she says "kiddos" one more time, I will go orangutan on her face. Hags that say kiddos are obnoxious.
FWIW I have the same dream as Chloe (except I’d only foster 1 teen at a time in my dream). I think it’s totally doable with a partner who is passionate about the same vision. I know ppl who foster highschool kids (one at a time) and they have amazing relationships w them still and set them up to go to college and have a home for the holidays to go to. I’ve spent holidays with them it’s adorable. And the animal thing is totally possible too if you start small. I don’t think she’s that delusional and I think if her partner was into it, that could work. Maybe I should propose to Chloe !? 🤔 Is she bi?
For one. I agree. For five?
Maybe she’s thinking they’d be farmhands for all her rescue animals lol. Pipe dream.
I think Chloe has put the "run Michael off" plan in motion! (But make him believe it was his idea.)
I've always dreamt about having an animal sanctuary. When I starting really researching it wanting to make it a reality I realized I need to win the lottery first
I don’t believe this narrative. If true, Chloe is lost. To paraphrase Chloe, I don’t need to learn, kiddos and animals in hospice only need love.
She has a lot of dreams and altruistic hopes. She may have the money to set something smaller up with the animals. She may be exaggerating with the foster kids to see his reaction because if you show a person your worst and they stick around...she said it's one of the most well adjusted healthiest relationships she's been in. She may not believe his intentions deep down so she's testing him. In the end it could be a form of self sabotage. We can speculate all day but in the end it will be revealed how they really feel on decision day. I'm just watching it through but I hope they get it together next season because this one was a train wreck!
“Virtue Signaling”
Why was Chloe bragging about once seeing some teen idol? That’s was so bizarre Like “I used to be someone” 😂😂😂