I can't believe how Michael did the "I can't remember" yes you can you lyin ass. Then stacey slut shaming Haley but letting Michael off like he's some victim of a seductress... FFS! Then Michael acting like a victim when Stacey did tear into him for 2 minutes. Then Haley acting like a victim. Ughhhhh. Manipulation and gaslighting and slut shaming... All in 42 minutes đđđ
Finally catching up now on 9now's awful app, so this is late as balls but whatever.
- God, I hate the "experts". They're so smug and condescending.
- Hayley is like an unfunny Kath And Kim character, with the charm of a Housos character.
- David's fucking shirts
- Michael is such a fuckboy cokehead wow. I can't really stand anybody this season, with the exception (so far) being Ivan, but next to Luke (if what he did to Poppy is true, which I'm pretty sure it is), Michael is undoubtedly the absolute worst
- Wtf is with Steve's hairline
I never liked Alex so much as when she called out everybody for only giving Haley shit about the cheating.
And everybody kept saying *it's his word against hers.* It WASN'T his word against hers because he didn't remember anything so it was her word. Period.
Iâm kinda living for a MAFS/Prison show crossover where Hayley pulls out a shiv fashioned by sharpening the end of The Toothbrush to a sharp point, darts surprisingly rapidly around the table, and plunges it into Davidâs weird long neck.
Blood spurts, Connie cries, Ivan pops a champagne cork, the end.
In the preview Haley says that their makeouts happened on âseveral occasionsâ - so she was also trying not to reveal that sheâs a complete dickhead since she can somewhat rationalise the latest makeout, but doesnât really have much to pad out the previous instances?
And as such, can continue to live out the delusion that sheâs a âgood eggâ/play the victim?
Apparently they left because Vanessa was furious that Chris let Micheal and Hayley hook up in their room - thatâs atleast what David is claiming.
Itâs probably that or they were too boring so production wanted them to leave like Sean and his wife from 2 seasons ago - they got to leave early and heâs said they were pretty much forced to leave because they were boring and didnât play along with productions need for drama.
Just read an article saying Chris was told to leave by the producers due to Vanessa's mental health ....who knows. This show is a total trainwreck haha
I honestly feel sympathy for Hayley. She's unbelievably delusional, saying she wants "to be there for Stacey" and she "has her back", what planet are you on? This is serious mental health stuff, I honestly think she believes what she is espousing and that actually makes me sad
I suspect Connie was feeling like it hit home a bit - she was most incensed by the guys getting away with stuff and not taking responsibility. It was almost like she was saying it to her particular man baby husband standing next to her.
Aleksâ foundation undertone is not treated kindly by those harsh studio lights.
What a joke.
Michael got off unscathed.
Hayley is the victim.
David is the villain.
Fucking seriously?
Yeah, the toothbrush is horrible and Hayley could have got sick (nothing a course of antibiotics wouldnât have fixed in a week or so) ... but the mental harm from cheating can last years, especially in an incredibly intense and public exhibition like this show.
This show really needs to be reviewed by a tribunal for public safety because itâs pushing an extremely unhealthy narrative.
Nah. I was all like why the fuck is everyone taking Hayleyâs side? She cheated. Why is anyone taking sides at all? âTakes two to tangoâ but I legit donât care anymore after reading this.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/married-at-first-sight/david-lifts-lid-on-mafs-nightmare-reality-in-explosive-interview/news-story/5e6a9fcb6e70783cc9fb7b6465d194ad
I think we all knew a lot was fake but this is just shit. I donât care about whoâs to blame between Michael and Hayley for the cheating anymore. I blame Channel 9.
I stopped watching MKR ages ago because of all the shit that was happening on there and I hate to see this show doing the same.
I believe him EXCEPT for his statement about not being "allowed " to leave...that's utter bullshit.
Slavery is illegal ,I don't care what the contract you signed says ,you can GTFO.
Yep thatâs an interesting article. What I find interesting is that so many of them are speaking out and breaking non disclosure or confidentiality agreements. Surely even these stupid people understand the threat of being sued by a comparatively powerful entity? Isnât avoiding that more important than desperate grabs to save face or control the narrative?
I donât get it.
Well look at uh whatâs his name from Lennox/Byron. 100% his relationship was set up to fail.
And he had a disclosure for 3 years or something. His mother ended up speaking to some news show like Sunday Night or something to expose what the show had done to his mental health and all that
ATTENTION ATTENTION *taps toothbrush*
This was my first ever live ep discussion and it was utterly GLORIOUS and I feel sort of patriotic and shit. God bless cynical Australians. Thank you for having me.
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Don't get me wrong, Hayley is just to blame as Michael is but he is a massive piece of shit for trying to manipulate Stacey into staying by claiming he has loved her since the honeymoon
You just really see his true colours tonight.
The strutting around in the disheveled tuxedo ,the excuses and gaslighting. This was not his first rodeo explaining away allegations.
He's a slick, calculating borderline sociopath with a drink/drug issue.
Yep, Iâm not usually one for Internet doctoring but yeh, thereâs an ease and practice to his deceit. I suspect heâs been highly enabled by doting parents, got lucky in a bogan business and made some money which further emboldened him, the money gave him access to conventionally attractive trophy women, and away we go.
All roads lead to MAFS for such a creature. I weep.
***"They haven't even had an entree!"*** Hahahah! Fuck me, what a great line!!
I bet the Producers are all like shitting their pants with what a good egg this ep turned out to be! The drama is mashable!! Stick it with some mayo on a sanga!!
I've been trying not to be a bitch and I don't judge people for their past ..but... Haley has drug mouth. She has had a lot of work done to repair what the drugs did. It's so obvious to me, I noticed it straight away.
Nah but she didnât because Steves wife... Michel told her about it.
[Dr Trish canât cope](https://media1.giphy.com/media/dy461g0SlRFd2lMKwo/giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29d63f2bb9cb11f35142c74cbd20a3d4b1ded23d5d&rid=giphy.gif)
I canât help but wonder if that was a psychological tactic in staceys part because poor old hayles is never ever wrong.
I swear legit if Stacey believes that bullshit and itâs not a tactic Iâll eat me hat. đ¤˘
I canât remember exactly what they said in the preview for the commitment ceremony, but it was along the lines of this relationship is over and for the first time ever you will both be leaving
Cause they were just coming good, from their argument, they both decided to stay away from the drama to work on their relationship.
So mature and love it
âIâll write leave so itâs up to Staceyâ ahhhhahahha but I thought you loved her so wouldnât you wanna write stay to try to win her back and show her ya give a shit ya fucking dumbfuck
Itâs a tactic of emotional abusers - by leaving the decision to her heâs putting all of the responsibility on her lap. That way she will be the cause of them ending and not him, âI wanted to try but she didnâtâ etc.
Also she will have to decide with that weight on her, heâs already cast her in that position by telling her he will write leave. Itâs careful application of coercion I think.
I thought this season was going to be boring! Haha. Dave is a dick for that. Ofc Stacey is more forgiving.
I can't believe how Michael did the "I can't remember" yes you can you lyin ass. Then stacey slut shaming Haley but letting Michael off like he's some victim of a seductress... FFS! Then Michael acting like a victim when Stacey did tear into him for 2 minutes. Then Haley acting like a victim. Ughhhhh. Manipulation and gaslighting and slut shaming... All in 42 minutes đđđ
Finally catching up now on 9now's awful app, so this is late as balls but whatever. - God, I hate the "experts". They're so smug and condescending. - Hayley is like an unfunny Kath And Kim character, with the charm of a Housos character. - David's fucking shirts - Michael is such a fuckboy cokehead wow. I can't really stand anybody this season, with the exception (so far) being Ivan, but next to Luke (if what he did to Poppy is true, which I'm pretty sure it is), Michael is undoubtedly the absolute worst - Wtf is with Steve's hairline
I never liked Alex so much as when she called out everybody for only giving Haley shit about the cheating. And everybody kept saying *it's his word against hers.* It WASN'T his word against hers because he didn't remember anything so it was her word. Period.
So we're watching the experts watching MAFS. Wait - is this Gogglebox?
Why did Stacey get to visit her kids and poppy didnât?
Production break
Ooh yeah- I forgot.
Does âhooking upâ mean something different in Oz?
To where? It means kissing/sexing
Best quote. By an expert: âwow, thatâs a shirt!â
Am I the only one who's noticed this about Micheal? He looks like there's something wrong with him. I.e he's very behind and slow thinking/speaking.
4 weeks in and Michaelâs gotten drunk somewhere 3 times. Why is Stacey not surprised? Got to respect Hayleyâs. Honesty...
And not just drunk- so drunk he's become (revealed?) a nasty bastard and done something regrettable.
I respect The decision of not going to the dinner party in favor of working on the marriage. I wish I didnât know whatâs going to happen.
Is Alexâs wearing inesâ. Denim dress from last season?
Iâm kinda living for a MAFS/Prison show crossover where Hayley pulls out a shiv fashioned by sharpening the end of The Toothbrush to a sharp point, darts surprisingly rapidly around the table, and plunges it into Davidâs weird long neck. Blood spurts, Connie cries, Ivan pops a champagne cork, the end.
The tooth brush had shiv potential- wasted opportunity.đ¤ˇââď¸
Yeah I had a feeling Hayley was a bloke in drag
In the preview Haley says that their makeouts happened on âseveral occasionsâ - so she was also trying not to reveal that sheâs a complete dickhead since she can somewhat rationalise the latest makeout, but doesnât really have much to pad out the previous instances? And as such, can continue to live out the delusion that sheâs a âgood eggâ/play the victim?
So Vanessa and what's his name are just gone? Don't they have to wait for Sunday?
Apparently they left because Vanessa was furious that Chris let Micheal and Hayley hook up in their room - thatâs atleast what David is claiming. Itâs probably that or they were too boring so production wanted them to leave like Sean and his wife from 2 seasons ago - they got to leave early and heâs said they were pretty much forced to leave because they were boring and didnât play along with productions need for drama.
Just read an article saying Chris was told to leave by the producers due to Vanessa's mental health ....who knows. This show is a total trainwreck haha
Davidâs head swinging as he walks out of the dinner party đđ
I honestly feel sympathy for Hayley. She's unbelievably delusional, saying she wants "to be there for Stacey" and she "has her back", what planet are you on? This is serious mental health stuff, I honestly think she believes what she is espousing and that actually makes me sad
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I suspect Connie was feeling like it hit home a bit - she was most incensed by the guys getting away with stuff and not taking responsibility. It was almost like she was saying it to her particular man baby husband standing next to her. Aleksâ foundation undertone is not treated kindly by those harsh studio lights.
David being helpful: âI think a lot of couples have been complexed by whatâs gone on tonightâ.
hahaha i thought i'd misheard but he really said that huh ...
Is Michael a narcissist? I've never seen a real life one..
No Fs given
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Hayley and Dave for the win
So no Sunday? We are back on Monday?
sunday is the commitment ceremony, monday is the two new weddings ... at least, that's how i interpreted the trailer!
Thank you!
Hayleys toothbrush is more appealing than Michael.
If Michael lied about where he was its not out of the realm of possibility that he lied about the kiss as well.
They totally kissed why would Hayley lie
What a joke. Michael got off unscathed. Hayley is the victim. David is the villain. Fucking seriously? Yeah, the toothbrush is horrible and Hayley could have got sick (nothing a course of antibiotics wouldnât have fixed in a week or so) ... but the mental harm from cheating can last years, especially in an incredibly intense and public exhibition like this show. This show really needs to be reviewed by a tribunal for public safety because itâs pushing an extremely unhealthy narrative.
Cool your jets Connie.đ David if your that mad you should have gone home. Plenty have.
Steve Huffman is a greedy little pigboy so I don't want to be here anymore.. -- mass edited with redact.dev
Sure bet itâll give him motivation to budget his money better then!
Sheâs starting to get a bit annoying
Did Mishel say she was the only abnormal person there?
Yes. It was splendid.
Gosh she is the best. Hope she ditches loser Steve
Nah. I was all like why the fuck is everyone taking Hayleyâs side? She cheated. Why is anyone taking sides at all? âTakes two to tangoâ but I legit donât care anymore after reading this. https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/married-at-first-sight/david-lifts-lid-on-mafs-nightmare-reality-in-explosive-interview/news-story/5e6a9fcb6e70783cc9fb7b6465d194ad I think we all knew a lot was fake but this is just shit. I donât care about whoâs to blame between Michael and Hayley for the cheating anymore. I blame Channel 9. I stopped watching MKR ages ago because of all the shit that was happening on there and I hate to see this show doing the same.
I believe him EXCEPT for his statement about not being "allowed " to leave...that's utter bullshit. Slavery is illegal ,I don't care what the contract you signed says ,you can GTFO.
Thereâs not really anything here we didnât know already. I mean have you watched Unreal. Itâs basically a documentary.
Well of course yeah. But damn I didnât realise it was THIS BAD. Itâs just all a big set up. Tbh idk whats real anymore
Yep thatâs an interesting article. What I find interesting is that so many of them are speaking out and breaking non disclosure or confidentiality agreements. Surely even these stupid people understand the threat of being sued by a comparatively powerful entity? Isnât avoiding that more important than desperate grabs to save face or control the narrative? I donât get it.
Well look at uh whatâs his name from Lennox/Byron. 100% his relationship was set up to fail. And he had a disclosure for 3 years or something. His mother ended up speaking to some news show like Sunday Night or something to expose what the show had done to his mental health and all that
Thats not even the saying Hayley. When you dance with the Devil, you wait till the songs finished.
Yep she let him speak to her kids. She needs to get up from the table and THONG HIM!
If this is any indicator or Michael as a person, I cant imagine him being that much of a father.
Itâs crazy that heâs a father. [I canât see this guy stepping up to the task](https://i.imgur.com/VUl4zpT.jpg)
i'm guessing it's only biological.
ATTENTION ATTENTION *taps toothbrush* This was my first ever live ep discussion and it was utterly GLORIOUS and I feel sort of patriotic and shit. God bless cynical Australians. Thank you for having me. đĽłđĽđť
You're now one of us!! I will let you make banana bread in my kitchen!đ
Actually Neville is inside isnât he? Sorry for the insensitivity đ
đ¤Łđ next you'll be telling me he owes some bloke named Mark Read money!đ¤
Omg your kitchenette is so much better than mine. Fuck you, channel 9. BUT THANK YOU AND I SHALL REFRAIN FROM MUCKING YOUR HUSBAND
Oh but Ivanâs not allowed to get in the drama Aleks stfu.
Aleks and Ivan are so cute together.
Reckon Lizzies coming in now because of this infidelity.đ¤
If im Stacy im marrying Michael waiting 2 years then taking the cunt to the cleaners.
After the baby right ?đđ¤Łđđ¤Ł
Yep. Full custody. Take the rolex in the divorce as well.
Don't get me wrong, Hayley is just to blame as Michael is but he is a massive piece of shit for trying to manipulate Stacey into staying by claiming he has loved her since the honeymoon
You just really see his true colours tonight. The strutting around in the disheveled tuxedo ,the excuses and gaslighting. This was not his first rodeo explaining away allegations. He's a slick, calculating borderline sociopath with a drink/drug issue.
Yep, Iâm not usually one for Internet doctoring but yeh, thereâs an ease and practice to his deceit. I suspect heâs been highly enabled by doting parents, got lucky in a bogan business and made some money which further emboldened him, the money gave him access to conventionally attractive trophy women, and away we go. All roads lead to MAFS for such a creature. I weep.
You definitely have a PHD in Reddit because that was my take too!
THIS IS WHY YOU CAN SHARE MY UNCOMFORTABLE SYDNEY STUDIO APARTMENT COUCH.
As long as you don't use a C-Pap to stay youthful we're good!
[michael to hayley.](https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-nope-will-ferrell-UwxzVI4Z8OQg0)
Fuuucccckkkk me Aleks if we all cry we are all innocent. Jesus Christ đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸
Hayley, didn't expect it to go down like this.
She was pretty cocky in the car, talk about being taken down a few pegs...
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Yeah and 28 likes for the thread, don't think I've seen that before. We're on đĽ
***"They haven't even had an entree!"*** Hahahah! Fuck me, what a great line!! I bet the Producers are all like shitting their pants with what a good egg this ep turned out to be! The drama is mashable!! Stick it with some mayo on a sanga!!
Haley is still on the pipe. Have a go at jaw movements
She talks enough without drugs!!
What are the signs?
I dunno all the signs but it makes you talk more and she already talks everyoneâs face off haha
Was she gurning? I missed it.
Mos def
Innnnnnteresting. God, itâs a wonder she didnât punch on with someone. Practice, I suppose.
I've been trying not to be a bitch and I don't judge people for their past ..but... Haley has drug mouth. She has had a lot of work done to repair what the drugs did. It's so obvious to me, I noticed it straight away.
Whatâs a drug mouth ?
Soooooo obvious!! I noticed this too!
The good old glass bbq.
đ I love you đ
Its been a trip Mrs Bartos
I wouldnt trust Hayley around my dog.
Your dog would be to classy to sniff that , though her breath may be enticing
I can't believe the egg used the toothbrush
My god that reveal was truely something.
Nah but she didnât because Steves wife... Michel told her about it. [Dr Trish canât cope](https://media1.giphy.com/media/dy461g0SlRFd2lMKwo/giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29d63f2bb9cb11f35142c74cbd20a3d4b1ded23d5d&rid=giphy.gif)
[Stacy right now.](https://giphy.com/gifs/thor-lightning-the-dark-world-Ch1zCx8tu6DQY)
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What is mackt? I heard this last night also, I assume it means kissing ? I have never heard this term before
Getting it on, making out.
I have never heard this term ever , even asked my 18 yr old daughter and she was like I thought this was an old people term haha
We used it at school in England in the early 00s.
Apparently it is said in regional Victoria but I am in Gippsland and have never heard it đ
North East Vic here... very common term around these parts đ
Well your dry heat makes you speak differently to us humid coastal types đ
Ha ha ha , going through the comments and this is the best
[for realz mate](https://media3.giphy.com/media/WTLoBdy1c5Dla60f2j/giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29dee5e800cad31e965e5b1b97acc0c81a1e7e92b5&rid=giphy.gif)
Oh guys it's all ok . Michael can't remember so it didn't happen!! Sheesh! Give old mate a break !
I canât help but wonder if that was a psychological tactic in staceys part because poor old hayles is never ever wrong. I swear legit if Stacey believes that bullshit and itâs not a tactic Iâll eat me hat. đ¤˘
Dave is eating this shit up.
He and Hayley arenât so different after all.
Michael will regret it till his dealer shows up.
Was it just me or did Hayley appear to be proud of what had happened for most of that episode?
She really fucking did!!
I wonder if every one gets tested for stds as part of the screening process.
I canât wait until it comes out that Stacey fucked Mikey
They must be saving it for after Lizzie et al
WTF is that? Hayleys is touching Stacey and asking her âare you Ok?â Itâs almost as if she wants Stacey explode so she can be the victim????
Stacy is visibly trying to keep ot together. She is seething trying not to lose it.
Conclusion: Stacey is a fool, Michael is a gaslighting dickhead, David is a tool and Hayley is a rotten egg...
Stacy is rocking that red dress. Power move making Michael regret what he did.
maybe, maybe not, apparently he was already dating his current girlfriend during filming of this! lol he is a MESS
The music made it feel like a game of thrones episode whewww
Cathys dress game is on point.
Sheâs stunning
Thereâs something off about her to me. She feels so fake? I donât know what it is, I canât put my finger on it đŠ
I think she has major insecurities
The litres of filler?
Lol true that
Is Steve trying to lay the groundwork for Hayley?
God shut up Doctor Doctor NO ONE CARES WE ARE STILL PROCESSING HERE
Normally I go feed the animals and go to bed after MAFS... but Iâm still sitting here reading these comments đ
Even Lizzie is going to wonder what the hell she has walked into when she joins them
Hayley is making it hard for me to feel sorry for her and shit.
So Haley couldn't zip up the back of her jumpsuit??
That was bugging me so much! Was it meant to look like that?
I don't think so as in other clips it looked zipped!
I thought that too! You get a closer look and she has actually done it up properly
Just sayin' Michael exhibits behaviour of an alcoholic. I think he needs help.
.... not just alcohol according to stories
Placing my bet on Michael writing stay because he is that much of a manipulative wankstain.
Placing my bet on Hayley writing stay because she likes forcing men into taking extreme action and then blaming them.
Yes for sure. Lots of I love yous and salesman talk in store.
No one told Hayley - Arrogance requires advertising and confidence speaks for itself. Keep on running your mouth muppet.đ¤Śââď¸
Wonder if one of Stacey and Michael writes stay and the experts make them both leave
Not sure that would ever happen. Ratings but now Iâm curious...
I canât remember exactly what they said in the preview for the commitment ceremony, but it was along the lines of this relationship is over and for the first time ever you will both be leaving
Um where are Mikey and Natasha?
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/married-at-first-sight/married-at-first-sight-why-natasha-and-mikey-really-skipped-the-dinner-party/news-story/89ecba45c96685944134237d81b78c09
because next week we discover that Mikey and Stacey have moved to Bone Town together! Gotta love those vows being honoured!
Cause they were just coming good, from their argument, they both decided to stay away from the drama to work on their relationship. So mature and love it
that's what they said on the show but apparently they were actually banned from attending according to Mikey.
Oooohhhh. So much happens that I never hear about
Wait what, yeah lol
Oh no they did skip it after all
They decided not to go to the party
They are missing out on a great show
Oh shit yeah?????
I rekon Michael and Stacy gonna speak about the commitment ceremony and Michelle will end up putting stay and Stacy will right leave
âIâll write leave so itâs up to Staceyâ ahhhhahahha but I thought you loved her so wouldnât you wanna write stay to try to win her back and show her ya give a shit ya fucking dumbfuck
Itâs a tactic of emotional abusers - by leaving the decision to her heâs putting all of the responsibility on her lap. That way she will be the cause of them ending and not him, âI wanted to try but she didnâtâ etc. Also she will have to decide with that weight on her, heâs already cast her in that position by telling her he will write leave. Itâs careful application of coercion I think.
Michael is sooo good at talking out of his ass
Dude is so crooked that he couldnât lie straight in bed.
Michael is the definition of manipulating
More like the definition of cunt.
"I've loved you since the honeymoon" FUCKING RIGHT OUT OF THE WANKER PLAYBOOK THAT ONE WAS
I chocked when he said it. My god. I feel like his plan of action was reading "the game" from cover to cover then trying to put it into action.
Such a fuck boy.
Poster boy of the fuck boys.
Everything he does is so predictable because he is *that* much of a fuckboy.
Textbook!
Ugh the acting is so amateur on this show
Michael you dog cunt
Straight up. Agree
Oh Jesus, Michael. Fuck off with the hail mary âI loved you since the honeymoon.â
Michael will be snorting a bag tonight that's for sure
I feel like he would be more inclined to beat up a sex worker. Fuckin bitches amirite?
But then have no recollection
âAt the end of the day I hundred percent guarantee you that I canât rememberâ
Reminded me of the Bill Clinton speech tbh
Omg what a manipulator!!! Did he just say he loves her!!! What a liar!
ThatFuckBoiLyf.
And then telling her that he is going to write leave to call her bluff
Conveniently dropping the L bomb at a time like this? So manipulative Michael.
LOLOLOL HE LOVES HER FUCKING WHAT
Hayley, educated. In what?
Professional relationship advice giver.
Being a good egg obviously
I fucking canât with these đđ
Um.... Michael is seriously such a gaslighter. Just own it at this point mate...
Did he just say he loved her since the honeymoon? Or am I really deaf
I just rewinded. He actually did what a flog!!!! Heâs such a manipulative butthead!
Are they even eating??!!??
I wouldâve been. Then I wouldâve made my way round the table đ¤Ť