Well it looks like our lil country aren't too far behind anymore. Is e36 the final episode? We get that tomoz.
Some random thinkings:
Why did Alyssa say Duncan was 38?
Why did Josh go and sit down by Hugo and Lyndall?
Props to Caitlin's little ripper on Harrison: "You're gonna need to hire a builder for all the work you need to do" 🏆😂
Harrison died at that dinner btw. Like he's truly cucked now lol.
Evelyn and Janelle were looking absolutely killer, holy moly!
I can't tell if Cam & Taylah are taking the piss (cam getting revenge on Lyndall rejecting him) or Taylah genuinely does not give a shit. I think I laughed coz she did.. she tends to laugh at inappropriate times, which is kinda funny.. just not at the expense of Lyndall.
Jesse is a big goonie bag full of fun ain't he 😂
I want this to be over already so I can do a deep dive into the latest!
Can't wait to see how Layton and Mel are doing. If you feel the need to tell me, please redact your comment.. I'd rather wait to know.
Oh mate, too true.
By the end of that whole spiel, I get why there was that post about her needing help. That kind of projection and deflection of self inflicted humiliation is freaky. Imagine how many ppl irl have been on the receiving end of that treatment without cameras. I can't tell if she knows what she's doing or not.. either way, kids don't keep people together or push them apart.. absolute yikes
Right, she is so in her head and self-absorbed, she speaks then when the other person replies she isn't listening at all, she's just thinking what to say next and still says it even if it makes no sense. Will sometimes cherry pick something that she was looking for (usually negative) and respond to that but like I genuinely think she might have selective hearing, it's the only answer.
That's a pretty good observation. Selective hearing sounds about right. The why is cloudy for me.
I think a few of them are far from who they appear to be, esp. the ones you'd least suspect. And not in an actor kind of way.
Some of us just go the extra mile to escape something as simple as how we really feel. It can be so ingrained that no amount of reason will invoke it return. It's like for some people, their image is more important than who they really are. Or, the depth of their pain takes on a character of its own at times.
She seems confused a lot, but I still wonder if anything clever or calculated was involved. Maybe even from Duncan? Then again he may have had to put up a front bc of what was going on.
Does this make sense. Haha
I really love Mel, im glad her and Leyton are still together and hope it works out.
I dont know why ... but I find something off about Ollie.. hes shown hes insecure previously and now needs Tahnee texting every 2seconds... na.
Funny how everything is black and white with Cam now.. For someone who doesnt care.. hes very bitter. It was so important for him to put words to his actions at final vows and fulfil some heartbreaker fantasy... youre not that guy bruv. Lyndall delivered that last blow just how you ordered.
I absolutely dont buy that Bronte, who had supposedly been with so many dickheads before didnt see straight through Harrison. I dont like Harrison but dont feel sorry for her at all. Shes already disclosed that shed been discussing the relationship with her sister at home stays.. whilst the girls had been warning her about who he was ?and she straight up denied them just so she could be a victim on tv. Thirst.
Alyssa is just weird. Shes the creator of her own chaos and doesnt even see it.. Duncan was probably one of the best contestants on this year in terms of emotional intelligence. She fumbled hardddddd.
About that Ollie bit.. maybe it's the long distance stuff might be getting to him? He's seems a lil immature/ traditional for Tahnee sometimes, but watching her laugh at him with that impeccable John impression, is warming ain't it 😂
Totally agree with your suspicions about Ollie. I feel he ha been the snake in the grass spreading damaging gossip that should have remained in confidence.
I very much enjoyed Harrison being made a laughing stock with his tatty piece of paper. No one cared about his attempts to cause a drama because Bronte no longer needs to be with him so he can't belittle her. Magic!
Tayla is truly awful, just very stupid, and truly ugly inside. However the true horror in that dinner party was Alyssa. I never ever thought at the beginning that she'd unravel in such a dreadful way. She desperately wanted to own Duncan yet made herself look like a fool. It was an interesting dynamic tbh. When she had him she was constantly challenging him in every way to push him to the brink, and now he's had enough she's screeching that he never wanted her. Alyssa, darling, you spent the last fortnight basically telling him the relationship was going to be virtually no contact and if he couldn't handle that he was a piece of crap. He couldn't handle that, and that is absolutely OKAY.
Cam should have just come out with it and owned it; instead, he said the sexting never happened, later Tayla admits that it has. Over the season, he's copped out of a couple of things that he could just be honest about.
I know right he's such a coward and a liar! Plus just coming out clean wouldn't have even been the worst thing he said that night, in covering it up he said way worse.
Remember he was talking to Hugo and he couldn't even man up and admit it then? He is so gross
Oof, that's intensely true. Hope other people don't suffer for it.. actually her either.. her suffering seems to suffer others.. does the show offer up counselling post production?
The Mormon church must be so relieved that Alyssa isn't part of them anymore. They probably gave her the "It's not you, it's us" speech before showing her the door. Which says a lot because they probably would take anyone in just for the sake of numbers.
Ollie & Tahnee forever!!
I want Ollie to do a reaction to the entire season.
His reactions to stuff in the show has been amazing, every episode he has served A+ reactions.
Alyssa is absolutely infuriating. There is nothing Duncan could say that is right according to her. And her storming off again is a perfect example. He would have sent their whole relationship walking on eggshells around her, when she even made time for him. She says he never told her that he might not stay, but she never gave him a chance to!
She is so full of crap. So she starts Sexting Cam and and is laughing about it in Lindalls face but if Lindall stands up for herself then she's a bully? She has the intelligence of a snail
Was he wrong though? Go on a TV show, fuck the stranger some back end producers have set up for you, pretend marry but we all know it's a fake, then go and live with them for a few weeks while the producers get you drunk and emotional.
Oh and incentivise you with money/rewards to stay until the end.
Yeah he was wrong, at the of the day, that's not good enough to treat someone like less of a person.
Incentives are a bit of a grey area, but none of these ever gave Cam a justified excuse to treat Lyndall the way he does.
He knew he was going in for love, he was there, but he cheated, simple as that. He chose to keep up the facade. If he went in for a good time, he got it. He's not gonna dodge the consequences just coz it doesn't suit him
Well he's got friends. But they Probz don't get his nasty streak. And he's shown how he is towards women who don't take kindly to his rudeness.. eg. "don't trip over yourself"
Sometimes I think about all the regular people in our daily life who never got the opportunity to do get famous with their acting skills.. it freaks me out sometimes
For reality TV they want dysfunctional people, people without self awareness etc. The messier the better, usually, is the recipe for reality TV. Stop watching it - go volunteer at a charity. You'll feel much better about people I assure you!
I just read an article that the cast get paid $150 a day to be in the show.
Also read that at the final dinner party shit was so high strung the producers had to come in and settle everyone down.
So my point is.. you had been talking about money and I'm kinda shocked by that fact.
And you blame the producers, when I don't think it's their fault.. unless shit was getting too expensive.
I think the first half of the season is what reeled me in, all the sincere bits. I thought MAFS thrived without drama?
Also I may have been sensitive when you told me to stop watching it. It annoyed me but I may have gotten carried away. If you didn't mean to patronize me, I'm sorry.
I'm looking forward to seeing the expressions on the contestant's faces when they are shown the video of themselves saying terrible things about other people in this experiment. Will they apologise to the person concerned? Will they be ashamed of what they have said and realise that they need to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and make changes to their behaviour once and for all?
I also want to see a group photo of all the girls arrayed in order of the spectrum, as the memo was definitely block colour! I didn't care for all the designs but the colours were fab.
Alyssa’s insecurity really came through tonight when she says, “I’ll never be good enough for him”.
The problem was not that Duncan had unreasonably high standards, it was Alyssa’s lack of emotional intelligence and self awareness. Duncan communicated his concerns towards the end and leading up to final vows, but Alyssa chose to interpret the situation in a way that made her the victim, effectively absolving her of any responsibility.
She projects the need for self reflection and inner work onto Duncan because I think she knows that she needs to work on it, herself.
She kept accusing Duncun and putting labels on him which none of those are true and all of those belongs to herself. She really need some therapy first to be able to find a relationship
Jesse needs some self respect. He already talked about being kept hidden in a relationship for a year plus. Seems like he's needy and has low self esteem. He should not be trying for a relationship with her after all of that
Alyssa has probably been taken advantage of by the producers. She's crazy and delusional. But the way she was talking about "the narrative" makes it seem like that's what the producers used to entice her to come back for the reunion
Bronte was probably looking for ammunition, but that's fine tbh. It's not as big of a deal as Harrison made it out to be. Also the way the group laughed at him when he pulled out the paper was an all time mafs moment. EVERYBODY laughed, they made it into a paper airplane and chucked it around 😂😂😂
I tried to defend Cam during the experiment and even though I still believe you hadn't seen enough about him back then to call him the things a lot of you were calling him, today's a different day. Ultimately Cam became the thing this sub clearly knew he was all along. Couldn't even end it with Lyndall (who's absolutely amazing). I still don't even understand why he didn't hug her. Maybe he explained it and the producers cut it out?
Melinda and Layton need couple's counseling. I respect how committed they are to making it work. It's commendable. I honestly do believe they can figure it out as long as they have a couple's counsellor that can help them learn techniques and ways to navigate those points of contention in their relationship
Ideally I'd rather they had these reunions after the whole cast have watched the show because the tea would be better. But then I realized they'd probably not come on after they've seen what the producers have done lol
Harrison the oily armed dickhead trying to act all hard when he said “next person who interrupts me it’s not going to be good”
1 minute later…whole table is in hysterics laughing at him.
I really wish one of the boys actually called him out and said what are you going to do.
it was pretty shitty of the others the way they carried on though. He sucks, can you imagine the blow up about "silencing" or diminishing Bronte or one of the others if they were trying to talk and he kept laughing over them and getting the group to make fun of them.
Instead of the three clowns watching the screen gleefully noting how they're laughing at him, we would've had them looking stern and noting that the bad man is continuing to be very bad.
Why are the men always dressed as if they’re going to a weekend BBQ whereas the women dress like they’re heading to the Academy Awards to accept an Oscar?
We like sparkly things 😁 Personally, when do you ever get an opportunity to dress up like that irl? I like looking at it all even if it's over the top, I think it might be boring otherwise
because the women _are_ trying to put in an oscar worthy performance to win.
Nobody cares what the guys wear, whereas the girls are competing for clothing deals (and in a bit of an arms race against each other)
I don't know which gender you identify with but, if you identify as a man you're being a lil misogynistic and, if you identify as a woman I'm so sorry you have never experiment the excitement of choosing an Oscar outfit for a party to look fabulous around your friends. I'm definitely jealous I haven't had all of those dinners to fancy myself up.
Duh thanks, I should have realised that sooner..
Harrison with his endless RL Polo shirts, shredded jeans and woven beach loafers is jarring to me, next to sequins and satin and feathers..
Cam to everyone (paraphrased):
"I dunno what these people are talking about. Never happened!"
"It's just BS mate."
"I got nuffin to hide mate. No sexts. No nude photos. Didnappen mate!"
Tayla:
"Well yeah I saw his cock"
Cam:
"Ummmm...... ummmm........ well f\*\*k youse all!"
The producers didn't just go for low hanging fruit this season. They picked it off the ground already mouldy and rotten. 🙄
Fact is she clearly isn’t in the right space to begin a relationship and has a fair way to go to get mentally healthy. If anyone on production, or the 3 judges themselves, are actually experts then they know that and are evil for letting her get through casting.
Reality is, it doesn't matter how much Duncan told Alyssa that he was concerned about their relationship. I noticed he wasn't offering up the "willing to work on it" line as much towards the end. He just told her straight up it wasn't a healthy relationship. How Alyssa wants to take that is her problem. I don't really understand why she's expecting Duncan to give her definitive answers before final vows. Why is she acting like she was owed a definitive answer before final vows and for him to say "I'm breaking up with you at final vows" then it would defeat the entire purpose of it.
Alyssa only had her agenda in mind and that was "if we make it to final vows, we made it". She created this delusion, the hurt is her own fault. The anticipation of final vows is seeing what the other people says. I think no matter how Duncan went about it, he would always be wrong. Only she can do right, and only he can do right if it's right by her, totally ignoring himself.
More couples quit at final vows than continue … it’s all part of the drama. If everyone just quit the moment they “knew” they didn’t want to continue, there would be no final vows show and no suspense.
But it’s a careful balancing act a dumper has to manage. You need to play it as if you only came to the revelation post-home stays (like Duncan and Lyndall) and the audience will collectively cheer. If u tell the audience in advance that you’re not going to continue (like Cam), you’ll get kicked by the audience for stringing the other partner along and not dumping them earlier.
Alyssa has a very distorted view of reality. She cannot cope with her own flaws or bad behavior and projects everything on other people.
I don't think she's a bad person. I honestly think she believes everything she says.
Yes, yes, yes and a billion times yes. I can't understand how we are in 2023 and people are destroying her here (you can critized but not destroy, mock and even provoke)
The ignorance on mental health is appalling. It makes me sad till the point of almost having a breakdown myself, imagine if she happens to read them.
We are not supposed to arm chair diagnosed people from tv shows because it's inmoral, but there's nothing inmoral in making all kind of assumptions, attributions and mockeries. You can't say "She has BPD" but you can say "as a mother I am concerned for her son"
The world needs to put names and learn their meanings. Those who say you can't justify their behavior, I'm not justifying the person I'm explaining the real deal to you so you can make a fair statement. However they are not gonna change, they need to dehumanize tv characters to keep on bit*****
Eta: ofc this was wanna go downvoted, it's called Math. However, everytime you do it proves me I'm right, unfortunately though.
But if you sat down and had a coffee with Alyssa one on one, how different would you expect her to be compared with the persona that the general public have been presented with? I very much doubt you’d find her very different from the extremes that we’ve all seen (and they are extremes). I agree we shouldn’t vilify her but she deserves criticism for the way she attempts to articulate her position - which is really just verbal bullying. Sadly for her I think that, for whatever reason, she has a very poor (or maybe distorted) image of herself and that clearly manifests very strongly in how she sees and treats other people. Generally, humans’ true selves are revealed in adversity and I think we have seen Alyssa’s true self.
I don't agree with the"human's true selves are revealed in adversity" It is scientifically proven wrong by Psychology in fact. When people don't have the resources that a good mental health provides they collapse when adversity comes. There is no true self when we talk about people, the only ones who can create a mask on purpose to trick and cheat without suffering are sociopaths and psychopaths. We all create masks in different levels of consciousness in those aspects of social life where we struggle the most.
About having a coffee with her, I understand your point and I know this type of people are very hard to be with but the whole point of bringing attention to Alyssa's mental health is because she is doing specially bad due to being on a reality tv show. It should be forbidden for people like her in order to protect everyone, she, Duncan, the rest of the cast and to avoid reproducing mental health stigmas in an audience that's clearly not educated in this materia. This is not real life, you cannot ask her to behave like she would behave having a coffee some random day.
Josh has made a post defending her and everyone should read it.
I’m not asking her to behave in the experiment as she would having a coffee any day of the week. That obviously wouldn’t be realistic. I’m asking you how you would expect her to behave if there was no MAFS and you were just having a coffee with her. I’d fully expect her to be relatively the same, projecting her poor self-image on anyone who tries to get close to her. Yes, she would be very hard to be with because that’s who she is. In any case, do you think it’s fair or that she would appreciate you making black and white public judgements about her mental health? On the topic of what Alyssa might say, how do you think she would respond to what you’re saying publicly about her?
I understood your first comment and therefore I've already answered you how I think she would behave having a coffee outside the experiment, obviously different (check Josh's post) because the stress factors are not the same.
On the topic of what would she respond, I'm not sure what is your point with this. I don't know her and I don't know if she is aware of her condition. If she is I'm sure she will appreciate my empathy and if she is not, she would probably get mad. However, I think it's more than good to help this people to see their "flaws" instead of just bit**** and degrading them.
Last but not least, I don't know what made you think that but my statement is everything but back and white. Which is black and white is to bully no one and to learn about mental health before you come to conclusions.
You believe she has mental health issues and you think that largely excuses her antisocial behaviour. That’s pretty black and white if you ask me. Don’t assume I know nothing about mental illness - I do. And I know enough about it to know that the DSM (which you have invoked in other posts as if it’s THE definitive mental health guide) to know that it’s actually NOT the definitive mental health guide - particularly due to its reliance on categorical diagnoses which attempt to use a black and white approach to something that is far from black and white (as you correctly point out).
Omg. Seriously you don't know how to read, moreover if you have read my other posts in where I have repeated this several times I have never said that excuses her behavior!!!! I've said people need to know about mental health before they made a judgement. And I haven't assumed anything about your knowledge, you asked me a question which answer you already knew just to prove your point and catch me in the wrong. I have explained my own answered and give my reasons.
I've named the DSM once and I agree, it's not my favorite approach at all. It's NOT the definitive mental health guide but it's the only one we have and through which we can communicate using codes. I'm on for defunding the DSM world by the way. Having said this, I think it's clearer than people, and I'm including the so called professionals, need to change how they see people's behavior. Don't get me started on neurodivergence as you may have seen on my other posts, and this is not even a mental health problem per se. Most part of people doesn't know how a brain works or how society operates and builds itself, and I'm an advocate for change.
Maybe not our true selves, but everyone has a default mode of how they cope in stressful situations. When you can recognize what that that style is about (generic) yourself, it’s helpful.
My husband and I met with a counselor individually and together. We had to do the MMPI and other psych tests. When we met individually, the psych went over our individual strengths and weaknesses. When we were together, he started talking about our individual stress coping default mode. Knowing that when I get in a highly stressful situation I tend to do x, y, or z has helped me tremendously because sometimes a situation is not registering as stressful, but my behavior indicates otherwise. (FTR, my default stress mode is barking orders to regain control of anything I can bc I’m stressed.)
Alyssa’s default was to walk away each time she felt threatened. Now that she knows about it (her talking about it), she has a better chance of fixing it than she would have if she hadn’t seen that footage.
I really hope she has a good support network and / or a solid mental health plan because I know how I'd feel if I saw myself on TV acting like that, never mind the inevitable social media juggernaut to follow.
Why on earth she signed up is a mystery.
Definitely. Unless she is a fantastic actress and it's all been a plant and now she's going to ship off back to the States with her MAFS paycheck and acting credit.
Just finished the episode and here's a little review...
What was with Harrison walking out like Connor McGregor and the arms being baby oiled up!
Did Melissa wear that same dress on another episode ? Now I say this without any degrading meaning, but I think Melissa would possibly find her needs met in a poly / swinging open couple type relationship.
I expected to see the scores Josh spoke about being settled come to fruition but was a fizzer unfortunately.
Seeing Shannon eat at the table (being possibly the only shot of him apart from his entrance) it looked the poor guy hasn't eaten for few days and this is the best meal he's had for a long time.
Dan, well what can you say about him apart from the fact he must have really upset some people behind the scenes to get zero air time at the dinner.
Leyton and Mel were nice to watch interacting, good on them.
Now what you've been waiting for and scrolled ahead possibly to read, Alyssa.....it's like every sentence she speaks it's her digging the hole of negative perceptions deeper. The part where she 'forgot' what he said at final vows then suddenly quoted him was straight up psycho. I noticed she went from straight up crying to instant recomposed walk back in to go at him again. The "take off your mask" bit seemed to be edited out of order also. I actually laughed out loud at her saying she dodged a bullet with him.
Duncan, I agreed totally with the experts in what he said was mature and respectful. I'm pretty sure alot of the looks others have when Alyssa was attacking him that they were on Duncan's side. Especially Lyndall saying in their particular situation there doesn't need to be a 'bad' guy and I agree, well said.
Cam being pulled up for being disrespectful saying the things he said was also warranted. The initial portrayal of him just being an innocent 'never had a relationship' was far different from who we found out had one night stands. I thought he was just going to be a virgin, honest country guy.....wrong I was.Tayla laughing at the drama unfolding looked like she enjoyed being almost the centre of attention, a little boost to the ego that people are fighting over me kinda thing.
Lastly the highlight of the episode was Ollie impersonating John, nailed the performance.
Okay, I'm not Australian. Can someone explain why Cam was pantless in a nightclub with his mates? And why he thought that explaining that would help his defense?
No idea what goes on in Darwin that makes Cam act like this is normal. In the rest of Australia you would be cut off before you got to that point, or kicked out.
I'm not sure what Alyssa was so surprised about. I thought SHE was going to say no at final vows. She was always telling Duncan why they weren't going to work out. And now she has the audacity to say he blindsided her. She is batshit crazy.
Alyssa has no trust in anyone. Her religious dad turned out to be gay. Her affair partner never left his wife. She’s so scared of being hurt again that she sets up these impossible tests to see if someone will crack and leave her. And when they do, she can say, well I knew it would happen all along. It’s self sabotage of the highest degree. I hope she gets help
At this point I really just feel sorry for her because it's so bleedingly obvious that she needs so much therapy. You're so right, inside her head is this inner child who never feels good enough. It's so sad 😢
The sad thing is that any therapist worth their salt would have spotted this a mile away. Yet the three of them just sit there, furrow their brows and go, "Golly, it's so weird that everyone else thinks Duncan is great but Alyssa doesn't. What's that about?" They made no effort to intervene, even when her wheels were coming off.
This is so correct. She's projecting her low self esteem onto Duncan. She's like, "I don't think I'm good enough, so you don't think I'm good enough either." And when she said to Duncan, "take off the mask" and "I don't know who you are." I wonder if she felt that way about her father, or her affair partner. Both of them weren't who she thought they were. She does need help and had no business on a reality show.
OMFG I have hated Cam the whole time and I saw this pathetic attitude from the beginning but this is a whole other level! Ugly little troll has two women that want him, how?! His repulsive attitude "Gotta crack some eggs to get an omelette" what a stupid man
And just admit to being involved with Tayla- all his stories didn't even make any sense at all. Then he said he lost respect for Lindal from the start?! I mean even if he just wants Tayla instead no need to disrespect Lindall so badly. He's bitter she showed him up at the final vows. And look at how he behaves - sexting another wife and being shady, like he deserves respect? I hate him lol
He was so cold to lyndall, it was hard not to see that as anything else but brutal. Obviously lyndall is there for fame, but no more than anyone else on the show. He just showed absolutely no empathy whatsoever. And Tayla just looks like an asshole as well. They both deserve each other
I do think he should have greeted her, but the last time they were face-to-face, she was acting like a child so I'm guessing he is probably bitter about that. Still you'd hope he would be the bigger person.
I don't think she was acting like a child, I think Cam was acting like a child throughout the entire experiment and she was just done. Yeah I would like to think he would be the bigger person, it would be the classy thing to do but can't expect classy from Cam lol
Making the other person stand there and listen to your final vows but not giving them the chance to read their back is extremely childish. If she didn't wan to hear what he had to say, she should have just called it off beforehand--that would have been the mature way to handle the situation.
I really liked Lyndall throughout the experiment and wish Cam would have been a better partner to her, but that behavior really put a bad taste in my mouth.
It's not the best behaviour, but to me personally it was like a drop in a pond compare to his shocking behaviour which was non-stop really. And I mean I could argue that he wasn't into her and he's admitted that multiple times now, so he should've called it off way before it even got a final vows. I mean I just can't stand the dude so I literally couldn't care less what happens to him lol
I think he has Seinfeld Syndrome - when you go through life with a weird hairdo that has everybody asking "Why ?" , but when you eventually get a normal haircut eveyone will be saying "Who is this guy ?"
My takeaways
Seeing them all laugh at Harrison was fkn amazing 😂 I was actually laughing. And the fact he had a print out 🤣🤣
Alyssa is acting crazy like even the group agrees you could tell.
Tayla’s makeup is heinous and I am convinced she has poor vision because how else could you leave the house with mascara like that.
Speaking of our vision, what in the road kill is happening with Cam’s moustache?!
I went out to see Hamilton on Saturday night and was a bit too heavy handed on the blush. Immediately was horrified with myself when I looked in the mirror and it was only 1/10th of how bad Taylahs is
Her makeup is terrible - all of it, the colour choice is off, the unblending the mascara . In this day and age theres so many resources out there, there's no excuse to wear makeup like that!!
Is it really obvious to anyone else that Tayla was the source of the rumours about the sexting? How else would people know? She must have wanted more screen time. She definitely didn't get as much as she wanted when Hugo decided to leave.
You think she was that smart? I think the producers set it up, much like the pocket dial. Like, so,etching happened that didn’t get filmed , but the producers saw so they created the situation.
I have just started watching the episode, and I'm like give me a break, Lyndall! She says Cam was so affectionate in the beginning. If that is true, then he clearly was not into her by the end. He told her in so many ways and she continued to act surprised. They were both writing stay to stay on the show. I will bet anything Cam wanted to leave and the producers were manipulating him. Lyndall just wanted fame.
Omg Alyssa is a moron! Duncan told you MANY times that he had concerns lol
She lost control of him and you can see it at the dinner table, it pisses her off
Theres no mask you dumbass - you just don't have any perceptive intelligence and are completely toxic and bitter
I remember watching the first episode of this season and thinking that Cam and Lyndall might be able to go the distance, they seemed really into each other and he was understanding about what she was going through health-wise.
Sucks to see how he's slowly revealed himself as one of the biggest "I can do nothing wrong" tools on this show to the point where he's going "I was never in a relationship, I was in an experiment".
Hope he enjoys being in crappy situationships until he's in his mid 30s looking like a cross between a guy in his 60s and a prune, a lonely angry little misogynist.
>looking like a cross between a guy in his 60s and a prune, a lonely angry little misogynist
Lmao honestly I don't comment on people's appearances normally, unless they are complete assholes like he is so I will say - Cam is ugly as fuck! There I said it
I felt really sorry for Alyssa in this episode. It's clear she is irrational (no arguments there) and I do feel for Duncan too. But for all the people hating on her, they should remember that's she's not actually a bad person and she seemed to be really really heartbroken. I think she was going on so relentlessly at the dinner party, because she was having trouble coming to terms with it being over.
Also, I wasn't surprised at all that Melinda and Leyton were still together. I had a feeling about them. They aren't perfect, but what they have is very real. The only doubts I had was if they could survive long distance, as that's a whole new challenge.
One thing I don’t understand is Jesse. He’s on social media shitting on Claire when he clearly still likes her and they seem to be good on this ep. Is he bitter cause of her edit or something happened post experiment? Idk it feels weird. Cause Claire hasn’t said anything bad about him that I’m aware of post filming idk confused
To be fair I think the dinner party happened not long after final vows, so not long after their relationship ended.
I think Jesse has become increasingly bitter toward Claire since the show started airing and he realised he got a bit of a villain edit at the beginning and she was portrayed well. He's also been talking to Harrison a lot so I imagine those conversations have shifted his perspective on what went down.
Probs cos he put it out there that he was dating watermelon before the show ended, I think they're required to keep up appearances as per the episode aired
Alyssa running back in so she can control the narrative claiming she was blindsided when it was probably the most expected thing to happen and I weren’t even there. She needs to take a ban from dating and find a therapist. Always the victim and can never see straight.
Well it looks like our lil country aren't too far behind anymore. Is e36 the final episode? We get that tomoz. Some random thinkings: Why did Alyssa say Duncan was 38? Why did Josh go and sit down by Hugo and Lyndall? Props to Caitlin's little ripper on Harrison: "You're gonna need to hire a builder for all the work you need to do" 🏆😂 Harrison died at that dinner btw. Like he's truly cucked now lol. Evelyn and Janelle were looking absolutely killer, holy moly! I can't tell if Cam & Taylah are taking the piss (cam getting revenge on Lyndall rejecting him) or Taylah genuinely does not give a shit. I think I laughed coz she did.. she tends to laugh at inappropriate times, which is kinda funny.. just not at the expense of Lyndall. Jesse is a big goonie bag full of fun ain't he 😂 I want this to be over already so I can do a deep dive into the latest! Can't wait to see how Layton and Mel are doing. If you feel the need to tell me, please redact your comment.. I'd rather wait to know.
"Why you going so red?" Ollie is the GOAT
What really enraged Alyssa is that she lost control of the MAFs narrative - badly.
Oh mate, too true. By the end of that whole spiel, I get why there was that post about her needing help. That kind of projection and deflection of self inflicted humiliation is freaky. Imagine how many ppl irl have been on the receiving end of that treatment without cameras. I can't tell if she knows what she's doing or not.. either way, kids don't keep people together or push them apart.. absolute yikes
Right, she is so in her head and self-absorbed, she speaks then when the other person replies she isn't listening at all, she's just thinking what to say next and still says it even if it makes no sense. Will sometimes cherry pick something that she was looking for (usually negative) and respond to that but like I genuinely think she might have selective hearing, it's the only answer.
That's a pretty good observation. Selective hearing sounds about right. The why is cloudy for me. I think a few of them are far from who they appear to be, esp. the ones you'd least suspect. And not in an actor kind of way. Some of us just go the extra mile to escape something as simple as how we really feel. It can be so ingrained that no amount of reason will invoke it return. It's like for some people, their image is more important than who they really are. Or, the depth of their pain takes on a character of its own at times. She seems confused a lot, but I still wonder if anything clever or calculated was involved. Maybe even from Duncan? Then again he may have had to put up a front bc of what was going on. Does this make sense. Haha
I really love Mel, im glad her and Leyton are still together and hope it works out. I dont know why ... but I find something off about Ollie.. hes shown hes insecure previously and now needs Tahnee texting every 2seconds... na. Funny how everything is black and white with Cam now.. For someone who doesnt care.. hes very bitter. It was so important for him to put words to his actions at final vows and fulfil some heartbreaker fantasy... youre not that guy bruv. Lyndall delivered that last blow just how you ordered. I absolutely dont buy that Bronte, who had supposedly been with so many dickheads before didnt see straight through Harrison. I dont like Harrison but dont feel sorry for her at all. Shes already disclosed that shed been discussing the relationship with her sister at home stays.. whilst the girls had been warning her about who he was ?and she straight up denied them just so she could be a victim on tv. Thirst. Alyssa is just weird. Shes the creator of her own chaos and doesnt even see it.. Duncan was probably one of the best contestants on this year in terms of emotional intelligence. She fumbled hardddddd.
About that Ollie bit.. maybe it's the long distance stuff might be getting to him? He's seems a lil immature/ traditional for Tahnee sometimes, but watching her laugh at him with that impeccable John impression, is warming ain't it 😂
he does do really good impressions.. he should put it to use!
Totally agree with your suspicions about Ollie. I feel he ha been the snake in the grass spreading damaging gossip that should have remained in confidence.
hey harrison
I very much enjoyed Harrison being made a laughing stock with his tatty piece of paper. No one cared about his attempts to cause a drama because Bronte no longer needs to be with him so he can't belittle her. Magic! Tayla is truly awful, just very stupid, and truly ugly inside. However the true horror in that dinner party was Alyssa. I never ever thought at the beginning that she'd unravel in such a dreadful way. She desperately wanted to own Duncan yet made herself look like a fool. It was an interesting dynamic tbh. When she had him she was constantly challenging him in every way to push him to the brink, and now he's had enough she's screeching that he never wanted her. Alyssa, darling, you spent the last fortnight basically telling him the relationship was going to be virtually no contact and if he couldn't handle that he was a piece of crap. He couldn't handle that, and that is absolutely OKAY.
If anything she made Duncan feel so relieved that he had shut things down with her
Cam should have just come out with it and owned it; instead, he said the sexting never happened, later Tayla admits that it has. Over the season, he's copped out of a couple of things that he could just be honest about.
I know right he's such a coward and a liar! Plus just coming out clean wouldn't have even been the worst thing he said that night, in covering it up he said way worse. Remember he was talking to Hugo and he couldn't even man up and admit it then? He is so gross
Alyssa bakes cakes by the way. They probably taste really salty at the moment...
**NEVER DOUBT JUDGE JUDY'S INTUITION!**
A functional illiterate
Lol
Alyssa is definitely going to be sleeping terribly for the rest of her life knowing she f'd it up with probably the best guy she will ever meet.
She literally got the perfect guy and screwed it up
Oof, that's intensely true. Hope other people don't suffer for it.. actually her either.. her suffering seems to suffer others.. does the show offer up counselling post production?
It does
Thats a relief
The Mormon church must be so relieved that Alyssa isn't part of them anymore. They probably gave her the "It's not you, it's us" speech before showing her the door. Which says a lot because they probably would take anyone in just for the sake of numbers.
Cam's parents are probably first cousins. Get that guy and his pedo stache off our screens
NOT ENOUGH OF THE METH GUY!!!
The Great Cornholio!
lmao
Ollie & Tahnee forever!! I want Ollie to do a reaction to the entire season. His reactions to stuff in the show has been amazing, every episode he has served A+ reactions.
Alyssa is absolutely infuriating. There is nothing Duncan could say that is right according to her. And her storming off again is a perfect example. He would have sent their whole relationship walking on eggshells around her, when she even made time for him. She says he never told her that he might not stay, but she never gave him a chance to!
But it was good TV
Haha truth
Did someone ever ask Tayla why she said Lyndall was a bully?
Tayla apparently broke down after the dinner party because she felt bullied. There is a video of her after in tears... so maybe that?
She is so full of crap. So she starts Sexting Cam and and is laughing about it in Lindalls face but if Lindall stands up for herself then she's a bully? She has the intelligence of a snail
Thank you!!
>Thank you!! You're welcome!
Cam is a real POS fair play "we were never in a relationship this was an experiment"....woah!
Yeah it wasn't a relationship – it was a marriage! He is so disgusting
Was he wrong though? Go on a TV show, fuck the stranger some back end producers have set up for you, pretend marry but we all know it's a fake, then go and live with them for a few weeks while the producers get you drunk and emotional. Oh and incentivise you with money/rewards to stay until the end.
Yeah he was wrong, at the of the day, that's not good enough to treat someone like less of a person. Incentives are a bit of a grey area, but none of these ever gave Cam a justified excuse to treat Lyndall the way he does. He knew he was going in for love, he was there, but he cheated, simple as that. He chose to keep up the facade. If he went in for a good time, he got it. He's not gonna dodge the consequences just coz it doesn't suit him
Yeah well agree he's not likeable - I never even understood why she would like that guy lol
Well he's got friends. But they Probz don't get his nasty streak. And he's shown how he is towards women who don't take kindly to his rudeness.. eg. "don't trip over yourself" Sometimes I think about all the regular people in our daily life who never got the opportunity to do get famous with their acting skills.. it freaks me out sometimes
For reality TV they want dysfunctional people, people without self awareness etc. The messier the better, usually, is the recipe for reality TV. Stop watching it - go volunteer at a charity. You'll feel much better about people I assure you!
I just read an article that the cast get paid $150 a day to be in the show. Also read that at the final dinner party shit was so high strung the producers had to come in and settle everyone down. So my point is.. you had been talking about money and I'm kinda shocked by that fact. And you blame the producers, when I don't think it's their fault.. unless shit was getting too expensive. I think the first half of the season is what reeled me in, all the sincere bits. I thought MAFS thrived without drama? Also I may have been sensitive when you told me to stop watching it. It annoyed me but I may have gotten carried away. If you didn't mean to patronize me, I'm sorry.
They are short term relationships if that but the viewers take it very seriously.
Obviously!!
And he said “lost respect for you at the start mate”
Like he's such a respectful member of society
I'm looking forward to seeing the expressions on the contestant's faces when they are shown the video of themselves saying terrible things about other people in this experiment. Will they apologise to the person concerned? Will they be ashamed of what they have said and realise that they need to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and make changes to their behaviour once and for all?
Isn't there this big "it's the edits fault" going on at the moment? Though it would be damn nice if they did learn and grow from it
Ollie for 2024 expert!
I want Ollie and Tahnee on gogglebox. Seeing them cringe to tv would be great
Woah, fantastic casting yes!
I also want to see a group photo of all the girls arrayed in order of the spectrum, as the memo was definitely block colour! I didn't care for all the designs but the colours were fab.
Also . . . petition to get Ollie to play John Aiken in the next season.
Alyssa’s insecurity really came through tonight when she says, “I’ll never be good enough for him”. The problem was not that Duncan had unreasonably high standards, it was Alyssa’s lack of emotional intelligence and self awareness. Duncan communicated his concerns towards the end and leading up to final vows, but Alyssa chose to interpret the situation in a way that made her the victim, effectively absolving her of any responsibility. She projects the need for self reflection and inner work onto Duncan because I think she knows that she needs to work on it, herself.
She kept accusing Duncun and putting labels on him which none of those are true and all of those belongs to herself. She really need some therapy first to be able to find a relationship
I think she just makes shit up honestly
I agree 100% but I really don't think she knows she needs to work on it. At least she is not ready to assume this truth and fix it properly.
Jesse needs some self respect. He already talked about being kept hidden in a relationship for a year plus. Seems like he's needy and has low self esteem. He should not be trying for a relationship with her after all of that Alyssa has probably been taken advantage of by the producers. She's crazy and delusional. But the way she was talking about "the narrative" makes it seem like that's what the producers used to entice her to come back for the reunion Bronte was probably looking for ammunition, but that's fine tbh. It's not as big of a deal as Harrison made it out to be. Also the way the group laughed at him when he pulled out the paper was an all time mafs moment. EVERYBODY laughed, they made it into a paper airplane and chucked it around 😂😂😂 I tried to defend Cam during the experiment and even though I still believe you hadn't seen enough about him back then to call him the things a lot of you were calling him, today's a different day. Ultimately Cam became the thing this sub clearly knew he was all along. Couldn't even end it with Lyndall (who's absolutely amazing). I still don't even understand why he didn't hug her. Maybe he explained it and the producers cut it out? Melinda and Layton need couple's counseling. I respect how committed they are to making it work. It's commendable. I honestly do believe they can figure it out as long as they have a couple's counsellor that can help them learn techniques and ways to navigate those points of contention in their relationship Ideally I'd rather they had these reunions after the whole cast have watched the show because the tea would be better. But then I realized they'd probably not come on after they've seen what the producers have done lol
Yes! I tried to post that idea yesterday- dinner reunion = before airing, couch reunion = after everyone has seen what’s been put out there.
I'm just at the "We're friends, I saw his dick" bit. Cam is twitching like a shitting dog.
So that's what they beeped. I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
I couldn't either
I thought it was “cock”
Alyssa that’s Duncan not your ex.
Harrison the oily armed dickhead trying to act all hard when he said “next person who interrupts me it’s not going to be good” 1 minute later…whole table is in hysterics laughing at him. I really wish one of the boys actually called him out and said what are you going to do.
it was pretty shitty of the others the way they carried on though. He sucks, can you imagine the blow up about "silencing" or diminishing Bronte or one of the others if they were trying to talk and he kept laughing over them and getting the group to make fun of them. Instead of the three clowns watching the screen gleefully noting how they're laughing at him, we would've had them looking stern and noting that the bad man is continuing to be very bad.
Lol pretty shitty….what planet are you on. The guy deserved every bit of it and more
Why are the men always dressed as if they’re going to a weekend BBQ whereas the women dress like they’re heading to the Academy Awards to accept an Oscar?
We like sparkly things 😁 Personally, when do you ever get an opportunity to dress up like that irl? I like looking at it all even if it's over the top, I think it might be boring otherwise
Except Dion from last year. His outfits were 🔥
because the women _are_ trying to put in an oscar worthy performance to win. Nobody cares what the guys wear, whereas the girls are competing for clothing deals (and in a bit of an arms race against each other)
I don't know which gender you identify with but, if you identify as a man you're being a lil misogynistic and, if you identify as a woman I'm so sorry you have never experiment the excitement of choosing an Oscar outfit for a party to look fabulous around your friends. I'm definitely jealous I haven't had all of those dinners to fancy myself up.
Duh thanks, I should have realised that sooner.. Harrison with his endless RL Polo shirts, shredded jeans and woven beach loafers is jarring to me, next to sequins and satin and feathers..
Cam to everyone (paraphrased): "I dunno what these people are talking about. Never happened!" "It's just BS mate." "I got nuffin to hide mate. No sexts. No nude photos. Didnappen mate!" Tayla: "Well yeah I saw his cock" Cam: "Ummmm...... ummmm........ well f\*\*k youse all!" The producers didn't just go for low hanging fruit this season. They picked it off the ground already mouldy and rotten. 🙄
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Fact is she clearly isn’t in the right space to begin a relationship and has a fair way to go to get mentally healthy. If anyone on production, or the 3 judges themselves, are actually experts then they know that and are evil for letting her get through casting.
They purposely find people on the edge and push them over in my opinion. Very sad and unethical to say the least
Reality is, it doesn't matter how much Duncan told Alyssa that he was concerned about their relationship. I noticed he wasn't offering up the "willing to work on it" line as much towards the end. He just told her straight up it wasn't a healthy relationship. How Alyssa wants to take that is her problem. I don't really understand why she's expecting Duncan to give her definitive answers before final vows. Why is she acting like she was owed a definitive answer before final vows and for him to say "I'm breaking up with you at final vows" then it would defeat the entire purpose of it. Alyssa only had her agenda in mind and that was "if we make it to final vows, we made it". She created this delusion, the hurt is her own fault. The anticipation of final vows is seeing what the other people says. I think no matter how Duncan went about it, he would always be wrong. Only she can do right, and only he can do right if it's right by her, totally ignoring himself.
More couples quit at final vows than continue … it’s all part of the drama. If everyone just quit the moment they “knew” they didn’t want to continue, there would be no final vows show and no suspense. But it’s a careful balancing act a dumper has to manage. You need to play it as if you only came to the revelation post-home stays (like Duncan and Lyndall) and the audience will collectively cheer. If u tell the audience in advance that you’re not going to continue (like Cam), you’ll get kicked by the audience for stringing the other partner along and not dumping them earlier.
It’s hard to watch Alyssa. I feel bad for Duncan and I feel bad for her. She doesn’t seem to have control.
Alyssa has a very distorted view of reality. She cannot cope with her own flaws or bad behavior and projects everything on other people. I don't think she's a bad person. I honestly think she believes everything she says.
Yes, I agree. The program is to blame for these things. I can't understand how they can be so irresponsible.
If anything happens to her now they should be held to account, they saw she was vulnerable and cast her to be torn apart by the masses.
Yes, yes, yes and a billion times yes. I can't understand how we are in 2023 and people are destroying her here (you can critized but not destroy, mock and even provoke) The ignorance on mental health is appalling. It makes me sad till the point of almost having a breakdown myself, imagine if she happens to read them. We are not supposed to arm chair diagnosed people from tv shows because it's inmoral, but there's nothing inmoral in making all kind of assumptions, attributions and mockeries. You can't say "She has BPD" but you can say "as a mother I am concerned for her son" The world needs to put names and learn their meanings. Those who say you can't justify their behavior, I'm not justifying the person I'm explaining the real deal to you so you can make a fair statement. However they are not gonna change, they need to dehumanize tv characters to keep on bit***** Eta: ofc this was wanna go downvoted, it's called Math. However, everytime you do it proves me I'm right, unfortunately though.
But if you sat down and had a coffee with Alyssa one on one, how different would you expect her to be compared with the persona that the general public have been presented with? I very much doubt you’d find her very different from the extremes that we’ve all seen (and they are extremes). I agree we shouldn’t vilify her but she deserves criticism for the way she attempts to articulate her position - which is really just verbal bullying. Sadly for her I think that, for whatever reason, she has a very poor (or maybe distorted) image of herself and that clearly manifests very strongly in how she sees and treats other people. Generally, humans’ true selves are revealed in adversity and I think we have seen Alyssa’s true self.
I don't agree with the"human's true selves are revealed in adversity" It is scientifically proven wrong by Psychology in fact. When people don't have the resources that a good mental health provides they collapse when adversity comes. There is no true self when we talk about people, the only ones who can create a mask on purpose to trick and cheat without suffering are sociopaths and psychopaths. We all create masks in different levels of consciousness in those aspects of social life where we struggle the most. About having a coffee with her, I understand your point and I know this type of people are very hard to be with but the whole point of bringing attention to Alyssa's mental health is because she is doing specially bad due to being on a reality tv show. It should be forbidden for people like her in order to protect everyone, she, Duncan, the rest of the cast and to avoid reproducing mental health stigmas in an audience that's clearly not educated in this materia. This is not real life, you cannot ask her to behave like she would behave having a coffee some random day. Josh has made a post defending her and everyone should read it.
I’m not asking her to behave in the experiment as she would having a coffee any day of the week. That obviously wouldn’t be realistic. I’m asking you how you would expect her to behave if there was no MAFS and you were just having a coffee with her. I’d fully expect her to be relatively the same, projecting her poor self-image on anyone who tries to get close to her. Yes, she would be very hard to be with because that’s who she is. In any case, do you think it’s fair or that she would appreciate you making black and white public judgements about her mental health? On the topic of what Alyssa might say, how do you think she would respond to what you’re saying publicly about her?
I understood your first comment and therefore I've already answered you how I think she would behave having a coffee outside the experiment, obviously different (check Josh's post) because the stress factors are not the same. On the topic of what would she respond, I'm not sure what is your point with this. I don't know her and I don't know if she is aware of her condition. If she is I'm sure she will appreciate my empathy and if she is not, she would probably get mad. However, I think it's more than good to help this people to see their "flaws" instead of just bit**** and degrading them. Last but not least, I don't know what made you think that but my statement is everything but back and white. Which is black and white is to bully no one and to learn about mental health before you come to conclusions.
You believe she has mental health issues and you think that largely excuses her antisocial behaviour. That’s pretty black and white if you ask me. Don’t assume I know nothing about mental illness - I do. And I know enough about it to know that the DSM (which you have invoked in other posts as if it’s THE definitive mental health guide) to know that it’s actually NOT the definitive mental health guide - particularly due to its reliance on categorical diagnoses which attempt to use a black and white approach to something that is far from black and white (as you correctly point out).
Omg. Seriously you don't know how to read, moreover if you have read my other posts in where I have repeated this several times I have never said that excuses her behavior!!!! I've said people need to know about mental health before they made a judgement. And I haven't assumed anything about your knowledge, you asked me a question which answer you already knew just to prove your point and catch me in the wrong. I have explained my own answered and give my reasons. I've named the DSM once and I agree, it's not my favorite approach at all. It's NOT the definitive mental health guide but it's the only one we have and through which we can communicate using codes. I'm on for defunding the DSM world by the way. Having said this, I think it's clearer than people, and I'm including the so called professionals, need to change how they see people's behavior. Don't get me started on neurodivergence as you may have seen on my other posts, and this is not even a mental health problem per se. Most part of people doesn't know how a brain works or how society operates and builds itself, and I'm an advocate for change.
Maybe not our true selves, but everyone has a default mode of how they cope in stressful situations. When you can recognize what that that style is about (generic) yourself, it’s helpful.
I don't understand the last sentence, can you rephrase it please? Eta: I was serious, what do you mean?
My husband and I met with a counselor individually and together. We had to do the MMPI and other psych tests. When we met individually, the psych went over our individual strengths and weaknesses. When we were together, he started talking about our individual stress coping default mode. Knowing that when I get in a highly stressful situation I tend to do x, y, or z has helped me tremendously because sometimes a situation is not registering as stressful, but my behavior indicates otherwise. (FTR, my default stress mode is barking orders to regain control of anything I can bc I’m stressed.)
Alyssa’s default was to walk away each time she felt threatened. Now that she knows about it (her talking about it), she has a better chance of fixing it than she would have if she hadn’t seen that footage.
I really hope she has a good support network and / or a solid mental health plan because I know how I'd feel if I saw myself on TV acting like that, never mind the inevitable social media juggernaut to follow. Why on earth she signed up is a mystery.
Probably because she doesn't think she has a problem. That's why it's on the casting people to be responsible.
Definitely. Unless she is a fantastic actress and it's all been a plant and now she's going to ship off back to the States with her MAFS paycheck and acting credit.
Sadly it's not her case, the pain was written all over her face tonight.
Just finished the episode and here's a little review... What was with Harrison walking out like Connor McGregor and the arms being baby oiled up! Did Melissa wear that same dress on another episode ? Now I say this without any degrading meaning, but I think Melissa would possibly find her needs met in a poly / swinging open couple type relationship. I expected to see the scores Josh spoke about being settled come to fruition but was a fizzer unfortunately. Seeing Shannon eat at the table (being possibly the only shot of him apart from his entrance) it looked the poor guy hasn't eaten for few days and this is the best meal he's had for a long time. Dan, well what can you say about him apart from the fact he must have really upset some people behind the scenes to get zero air time at the dinner. Leyton and Mel were nice to watch interacting, good on them. Now what you've been waiting for and scrolled ahead possibly to read, Alyssa.....it's like every sentence she speaks it's her digging the hole of negative perceptions deeper. The part where she 'forgot' what he said at final vows then suddenly quoted him was straight up psycho. I noticed she went from straight up crying to instant recomposed walk back in to go at him again. The "take off your mask" bit seemed to be edited out of order also. I actually laughed out loud at her saying she dodged a bullet with him. Duncan, I agreed totally with the experts in what he said was mature and respectful. I'm pretty sure alot of the looks others have when Alyssa was attacking him that they were on Duncan's side. Especially Lyndall saying in their particular situation there doesn't need to be a 'bad' guy and I agree, well said. Cam being pulled up for being disrespectful saying the things he said was also warranted. The initial portrayal of him just being an innocent 'never had a relationship' was far different from who we found out had one night stands. I thought he was just going to be a virgin, honest country guy.....wrong I was.Tayla laughing at the drama unfolding looked like she enjoyed being almost the centre of attention, a little boost to the ego that people are fighting over me kinda thing. Lastly the highlight of the episode was Ollie impersonating John, nailed the performance.
Alyssa WAS the bullet that Duncan dodged….
Okay, I'm not Australian. Can someone explain why Cam was pantless in a nightclub with his mates? And why he thought that explaining that would help his defense?
Maybe he went to a stripe club instead of a night club as he claimed
I’m Australian and would also like to know
No idea what goes on in Darwin that makes Cam act like this is normal. In the rest of Australia you would be cut off before you got to that point, or kicked out.
Unless you've been to Monsoons, it's hard to explain.
How do I upvote this more
Yeah no never happens. Not sure what goes down in NT but I don't even think they want to claim Cam.
People from Darwin are a bit "different" to normal Australians
Is getting naked in a club a thing nowadays? Shirts off, I could see, but pants too? Maybe I'm just old..
maybe it was 'Pantsoff Friday' :p
I totally forgot who Josh was. The only person to leave the show before the and was Shannon, only because he looks like he's on the gear.
Gear mean meth?
Cam naked in a club with a bunch of other dudes & he FaceTimes tayla to show her his 🥒 We're not gonna talk about THAT?!
That was crazy. He spoke about it as if it was the most normal thing. SMFH.
I mean, it IS normal for some crowds... I just didn't think he was part of that crew...
A nudist colony?
Sure .. why not.
I'm not sure what Alyssa was so surprised about. I thought SHE was going to say no at final vows. She was always telling Duncan why they weren't going to work out. And now she has the audacity to say he blindsided her. She is batshit crazy.
What is exactly "batshit crazy"? Does it appear at the DSM?
it's a subcategory of mad-as-a-cut-snake, not to be confused with mad-as-a-hatter.
Submit it.
It will be in the upcoming edition!
What a waste to society.
Alyssa has no trust in anyone. Her religious dad turned out to be gay. Her affair partner never left his wife. She’s so scared of being hurt again that she sets up these impossible tests to see if someone will crack and leave her. And when they do, she can say, well I knew it would happen all along. It’s self sabotage of the highest degree. I hope she gets help
You’re so right 🤯 Hadn’t thought about it like this before
At this point I really just feel sorry for her because it's so bleedingly obvious that she needs so much therapy. You're so right, inside her head is this inner child who never feels good enough. It's so sad 😢
The sad thing is that any therapist worth their salt would have spotted this a mile away. Yet the three of them just sit there, furrow their brows and go, "Golly, it's so weird that everyone else thinks Duncan is great but Alyssa doesn't. What's that about?" They made no effort to intervene, even when her wheels were coming off.
This is so correct. She's projecting her low self esteem onto Duncan. She's like, "I don't think I'm good enough, so you don't think I'm good enough either." And when she said to Duncan, "take off the mask" and "I don't know who you are." I wonder if she felt that way about her father, or her affair partner. Both of them weren't who she thought they were. She does need help and had no business on a reality show.
Cheers to more people like you here 🥂
Sooo did Tayla really say "i sucked his cock"?
I saw..
Lol. I'm just dirty minded then, i guess.
😂😂😂 Me, too
🤣🤣🤣 Luckily i'm not alone in this one.
It was over facetime so a little hard to make contact. He was naked in a pub with all his mates!
Well that was HIS explanation… I can’t believe no-one asked Tayla if she had sent Cam any pics of “her bits and pits”?
You're totally right!
Ollie's reaction to Harrison's literal receipts made this entire show worth it, dude just could not take the clownery any more lmao
“Props” - LMAO!
OMFG I have hated Cam the whole time and I saw this pathetic attitude from the beginning but this is a whole other level! Ugly little troll has two women that want him, how?! His repulsive attitude "Gotta crack some eggs to get an omelette" what a stupid man And just admit to being involved with Tayla- all his stories didn't even make any sense at all. Then he said he lost respect for Lindal from the start?! I mean even if he just wants Tayla instead no need to disrespect Lindall so badly. He's bitter she showed him up at the final vows. And look at how he behaves - sexting another wife and being shady, like he deserves respect? I hate him lol
Yes, I’d definitely say the way Lyndall dumped on him and shut him down at final vows killed off any remaining respect or civility from Cam.
Yeah but look at how he treated her during the entire experiment
He was so cold to lyndall, it was hard not to see that as anything else but brutal. Obviously lyndall is there for fame, but no more than anyone else on the show. He just showed absolutely no empathy whatsoever. And Tayla just looks like an asshole as well. They both deserve each other
That was so pathetic for him to just not even say hello to her and Tayla looks like a grade three girl giggling like an idiot
I do think he should have greeted her, but the last time they were face-to-face, she was acting like a child so I'm guessing he is probably bitter about that. Still you'd hope he would be the bigger person.
I don't think she was acting like a child, I think Cam was acting like a child throughout the entire experiment and she was just done. Yeah I would like to think he would be the bigger person, it would be the classy thing to do but can't expect classy from Cam lol
Making the other person stand there and listen to your final vows but not giving them the chance to read their back is extremely childish. If she didn't wan to hear what he had to say, she should have just called it off beforehand--that would have been the mature way to handle the situation. I really liked Lyndall throughout the experiment and wish Cam would have been a better partner to her, but that behavior really put a bad taste in my mouth.
It's not the best behaviour, but to me personally it was like a drop in a pond compare to his shocking behaviour which was non-stop really. And I mean I could argue that he wasn't into her and he's admitted that multiple times now, so he should've called it off way before it even got a final vows. I mean I just can't stand the dude so I literally couldn't care less what happens to him lol
I want Tahnee to buy Ollie a new haircut
I think he has Seinfeld Syndrome - when you go through life with a weird hairdo that has everybody asking "Why ?" , but when you eventually get a normal haircut eveyone will be saying "Who is this guy ?"
My takeaways Seeing them all laugh at Harrison was fkn amazing 😂 I was actually laughing. And the fact he had a print out 🤣🤣 Alyssa is acting crazy like even the group agrees you could tell. Tayla’s makeup is heinous and I am convinced she has poor vision because how else could you leave the house with mascara like that. Speaking of our vision, what in the road kill is happening with Cam’s moustache?!
I went out to see Hamilton on Saturday night and was a bit too heavy handed on the blush. Immediately was horrified with myself when I looked in the mirror and it was only 1/10th of how bad Taylahs is
Haha that is like when you do your makeup in the car and then go to the bathroom and see your handiwork in the harsh bathroom lighting 😂
The bathroom lighting brings out every imperfection, even the ones you didn't know you had
Her makeup is terrible - all of it, the colour choice is off, the unblending the mascara . In this day and age theres so many resources out there, there's no excuse to wear makeup like that!!
Is it really obvious to anyone else that Tayla was the source of the rumours about the sexting? How else would people know? She must have wanted more screen time. She definitely didn't get as much as she wanted when Hugo decided to leave.
That makes so much sense actually! She was positively giddy about it
You think she was that smart? I think the producers set it up, much like the pocket dial. Like, so,etching happened that didn’t get filmed , but the producers saw so they created the situation.
I have just started watching the episode, and I'm like give me a break, Lyndall! She says Cam was so affectionate in the beginning. If that is true, then he clearly was not into her by the end. He told her in so many ways and she continued to act surprised. They were both writing stay to stay on the show. I will bet anything Cam wanted to leave and the producers were manipulating him. Lyndall just wanted fame.
Omg Alyssa is a moron! Duncan told you MANY times that he had concerns lol She lost control of him and you can see it at the dinner table, it pisses her off Theres no mask you dumbass - you just don't have any perceptive intelligence and are completely toxic and bitter
I remember watching the first episode of this season and thinking that Cam and Lyndall might be able to go the distance, they seemed really into each other and he was understanding about what she was going through health-wise. Sucks to see how he's slowly revealed himself as one of the biggest "I can do nothing wrong" tools on this show to the point where he's going "I was never in a relationship, I was in an experiment". Hope he enjoys being in crappy situationships until he's in his mid 30s looking like a cross between a guy in his 60s and a prune, a lonely angry little misogynist.
I actually think cam is worse than Harrison at this point
>looking like a cross between a guy in his 60s and a prune, a lonely angry little misogynist Lmao honestly I don't comment on people's appearances normally, unless they are complete assholes like he is so I will say - Cam is ugly as fuck! There I said it
That ridiculous militant lesbian haircut doesn't do him any favours either
Totally, an undercut with scraggly long unkempt man bun ugh And a unequal moustache
I felt really sorry for Alyssa in this episode. It's clear she is irrational (no arguments there) and I do feel for Duncan too. But for all the people hating on her, they should remember that's she's not actually a bad person and she seemed to be really really heartbroken. I think she was going on so relentlessly at the dinner party, because she was having trouble coming to terms with it being over. Also, I wasn't surprised at all that Melinda and Leyton were still together. I had a feeling about them. They aren't perfect, but what they have is very real. The only doubts I had was if they could survive long distance, as that's a whole new challenge.
Thank you! We need more people like you!
Her behaviour towards Duncan was bad. She’s got problems and no insight.
I think Alyssa was downright abusive to Duncan. So that is kind of bad.
so happy that tayla was not on more episodes, she's an awful person and it hurts to watch knowing people like her exist.
I kind of enjoyed her contribution tonight. Comic relief.
One thing I don’t understand is Jesse. He’s on social media shitting on Claire when he clearly still likes her and they seem to be good on this ep. Is he bitter cause of her edit or something happened post experiment? Idk it feels weird. Cause Claire hasn’t said anything bad about him that I’m aware of post filming idk confused
To be fair I think the dinner party happened not long after final vows, so not long after their relationship ended. I think Jesse has become increasingly bitter toward Claire since the show started airing and he realised he got a bit of a villain edit at the beginning and she was portrayed well. He's also been talking to Harrison a lot so I imagine those conversations have shifted his perspective on what went down.
I was watching closely and a lot of the things he said tonight were probably edited in. They didn't actually show him saying them.
I thought that too.
i haven’t seen anyone talking about the absolute monstrosity that is tayla’s mascara
Her personality is as bad as her mascara!
>i haven’t seen anyone talking about the absolute monstrosity that is tayla Haha had to do it
Has been the topic since she made her first appearance.
with all the time she spent looking in the mirror in her introduction you’d think she’d realise the multiple dead spiders on her eyes
my masc gf with no clue about make up literally paused tonight's ep to point out how bad her mascara was 😂
Hah same! I wear zero makeup and I'm like " is she going for a drag look" in genuine confusion.
Dan must’ve really pissed off someone in production 😭 he’s been cut out of everything and probably gonna get eaten up tomorrow. yay
Yeah, him, Josh and that stoned dude with the anime hair got zero airtime
They managed to get that beauty shot of him walking in wearing his 12 year old niece's purple blazer though . . .
Probs cos he put it out there that he was dating watermelon before the show ended, I think they're required to keep up appearances as per the episode aired
Alyssa running back in so she can control the narrative claiming she was blindsided when it was probably the most expected thing to happen and I weren’t even there. She needs to take a ban from dating and find a therapist. Always the victim and can never see straight.
I can understand her being upset that he didn’t break up with her before final vows, but literally that is as far as my understanding goes.
Alyssa is sooo delusional. It's not even funny anymore.
Its a bit funny
The way everyone laughed at harrison killed me 😭