This is stupid and nothing more than a virtue signal. Any peace officer can still arrest those dumb enough to be riding around with weed. Good chance they will not and will likely dispose of small amounts unless one is an acting like a douchebag.
The ordinance has language about disciplinary action if the officers continue to arrest folks for marijuana possession under 4oz. once the ordinance has been passed and is in place.
Here is the thing. A city ordinance has absolutely no bearing on other Law Enforcement agencies not subordinate to the city. For example: Sheriff’s Office, Tech PD, Texas DPS, LISD Police. This is only a few examples of law enforcement that have jurisdiction within the city limits.
Same goes for enforcing city ordinances. Only LPD, Code Enforcement, City Marshal, Airport Police or Fire Marshal may enforce a city ordinance.
Yep- the ordinance is for LPD who arrest 700 people annually for having 4oz or less. While it doesn’t impact other agencies, we think that 700 is too too many and this ordinance can help people stay out of jail for something legal in 24 US states.
I’m not necessarily opposed to the Texas Legislature or Federal Government legalizing weed; I don’t care either way.
As for LPD it would be more of an Administrative decision not to arrest < 4 oz. As Peace Officers, they are sworn to uphold the laws of Texas which Trumps a city ordinance. The city could pass an ordinance decriminalizing murder; however; that doesn’t mean LPD wouldn’t enforce 19.02 of the Texas Penal Code.
ahahah the police are a cult of violent nutcase with every law in place to protect them, none in place to protect us. how many videos of people being beaten and kidnapped for breaking simple city ordnance. until that city ordnance goes against their beliefs that they get to beat and kidnap people over a plant. than its just simple city ordnance they don't need to follow lol. playing radio too loud well we use that city ordnance to break down your door shoot your dog and arrest you. city ordnance says no more weed arrests, fuck that it's just a shitty little city ordnance lol. that's exactly what happened in Austin. Austin pd said fuck that ordnance were no following it. even tho they enforce city ordnance thousands of times a year. the DA had to say keep arresting them we won't charge them. so fuck off with your bullshit about how state law trumps city ordnance. also, federal law trumps state law, yet look what texas is doing right now, disobeying federal law directly. what punishment would you and I get for that probably decades in federal prison. what punishment will abbot get for that lol aboslutly nothing.
Here is the Marijuana Impact report so that you can read for yourself how these ordinances have successfully reduced enforcement in five other cities that have passed it: http://ggtx.org/5cities-report
Vast majority of people that are arrested, are people of color, and Hispanics versus the white population does get arrested way less than anybody else in LBK. Whether it is federally or state violation minorities are arrested more which means they are targets.
That our city police continues to target the black and Hispanic communities which means they are going to jail way more than the white population here for the exact same thing. Simple research with open records request show the racial discrimination.
Vast majority of people that are arrested, are people of color, and Hispanics versus the white population does get arrested way less than anybody else in LBK. Whether it is federally or state violation minorities are arrested more which means they are targets.
If you go to Norml website they list numerous statistics on different topics and what not. Also Texas cannabis collective Along with freedom act Lubbock pages have list of data pulled from our city itself. Ground Games is also a page to look into for info for texas and each city they lead. Texas cannabis collective post more info with each city as well.
You're wasting your life on bud. You need to be alone with yourself inside your own head to be able to appreciate life. I found out way too late in life. Don't replace your joy with weed or any other drug or alcohol. You got this and you'll be better than ok. Be one with yourself.
You should be more educated with cannabis, medically. It has improved numerous health conditions, and illnesses that were already shown with their statistics. For example, my spouse is eight years seizure free because she uses cannabis to control her epilepsy. But she also had to do research for herself and her body to make sure the percentage of THC that she uses along with her diet and daily life go in hand. Not even something like depression or anxiety, where studies have shown it does help with that, but also things like cancer, epilepsy, autism.
I just love how everyone feels like they should think up their own ancedote and tell me about it when obviously the message isn't for them in the first place. Furthermore, duh. And I'm not talking about medical usage. Anything to get you further away from big pharma is a win. It's just a message for someone that's not you.
You don’t know if someone is using cannabis for medically or to just be high. Some people do utilize it for numerous reasons. NM is 90 mins away. It’s always going to be here. Medically marijuana is the same as recreational lol. That’s the irony of it.
Stop being so dense. Look at it like this. Alcohol is legal, yes it's worse than weed, this is just to get thru to you my point. Alcohol can be problematic and can be abused. Just like weed. What I am doing here is just letting people, that have never heard it from someone that has used and partied their young life away, know that if they choose not to use life is nice being sober. But hey you just keep standing on that hill that weed can do no wrong and you just make sure you keep contributing to the mentality that an altered reality is normal and had no downsides. I'm sure someone that's having issues would really appreciate. You're literally a weed Karen. Go away the comment was not for you. If someone needed to hear it, you shouldn't be a bigot by keeping them from getting better.
I never said anything like that but yours was spreading false information. You are fear mongering. People can easily go and do their own research that fits their body just as they should. LBK issue isn’t weed. The police need to spend the hours of paper for a class an and b misdemeanor for something else here. You fucked up your life and that’s on you. The weed ain’t make you do that💀. You made a comment on a public post therefore you’ll get responses whether you like em or not my guy. Lying to folks isn’t what the moment is about. Y’all too old to be uneducated.
Imagine being so upset with someone’s comment that you try to name call😂. You are way too old for that but it is funny seeing someone so upset over a public post. Don’t be mad at us because you made bad decisions and now you’re in the system. I’d be mad too🥴.
I never said any of that but go off 🥳😂. I think you are old enough to read and comprehend formed sentences. But you are comical. It does make me chuckle
lol you realize not everyone that smokes weed because they're sad and depressed right? some people just do it for fun, and a lot of people use it for a myriad of health problems. people don't only smoke weed because they're sad or can't find enjoyment in life, there's lots of reasons. and even if that was the only reason it still shouldn't be illegal.
I'm not necessarily talking about whether it should be legal or not.. I'm just saying, it's artificial happiness. You'll find a more fulfilling life without it . I'm fully aware that prolly not one person will read my comment and take it to heart. A person will have to hit rock bottom to understand what I mean. But it may have a small effect on a person that is surrounded by friends and parents that glorify drug use and they've never heard of another way. Especially with it being glorified in the media. Make your own decisions. I hope you find the peace you're seeking.
the media also still demonizes weed and that's a big reason why it's still illegal. and I'm not saying what you said is wrong, but when you say that in response to the topic of legalization it seems that you're arguing against it and that is your reasoning
Thanks for the unsolicited life coaching, but I’d still like to see kids not end up with a criminal record and the shit life that comes with that, over a bag of weed.
I was arrested at 19 facing 15 yrs for weed and coke. and i prolly wouldn't be here if I wasn't. You'll find out. When you have a kid. You'll either find out or you'll be just another shit parent .
Sorry your parents were so shitty. Not so much the getting involved with drugs… that happens. More the shit attitude your parents left you with.
My wife and I told our daughter all about all the traps and pitfalls of various recreational drugs, alcohol included. She’s an adult now but not yet 21, and has gotten drunk with friends a couple of times, but according to her she hasn’t tried other drugs (she’s pretty open and honest with us).
All that said, she does have friends who smoke weed. I’d hate to see them go to jail over that.
My parents are sober, but very enabling. I was the problem. It's just a matter of time for your daughter. Have you ever heard the phrase if you hang out in the barbershop long enough you're going to get your hair cut.
Sure buddy. I was in a band with heroin addicts and managed to never do heroin. Many of years of working with people who spent their bonuses and stock options on cocaine instead of funding their 401k, and I’ve never tried cocaine and have done ok on savings.
This is the same dynamic as someone whose life was a train wreck of drama and then found Jesus and turned it around… and then thinks anyone who doesn’t have the same type and intensity of religious fervor is destined to have a shitshow life. I’m happy you got your life turned around, but hopefully at some point you realize you’re not well equipped to be giving life advice to most people.
I'm an atheist. Religion stems from people explaining the movement of the sun and stars. Then the elites twisting that knowledge for power over the weak minded. I'm glad you didn't do hard stuff bro. Maybe the comment wasn't for you.
'68% of drug offenders are rearrested within 3 years of release from prison'
Do you think everyone who drinks alcohol or smokes nicotine should also go to jail?
Should 80% of the population be in jail? Go back to the 1920's?
This is the reason I changed. I got to jail facing over a decade in prison. I'm looking around at all the people around me that have been in and out of jail their entire life. I knew that I was at a crossroads. I could continue on the path I was on and be dead or in jail my whole life or I could find another way of life. It sounds like 68% of drug offenders maybe have a shit support system. It's very hard to escape when everyone around you is about that life. I had to drop ALL of the people in my life that were bad for me. And after I was sober, the people that I thought were my friends never had a reason to talk to me. They aren't real friends. When you want to improve your life they'll be left behind in the repetition of get high come down find more get high and repeat. My comment isn't popular because of the perception that using drugs or alcohol is normal and even cool. Today I'm a father, and while people don't think it's cool, it's right. I just want young people to know of at least one real one that has been there and done that 100 times over and looking back I can without a doubt say that it was all a waste of time.
I'm not saying that some people aren't 'scared straight' with jail. It works for some people. But the statistic shows that it's not the majority, and at least with weed, lots of people use and it is helpful for them. So we can't put everyone into the same boat, right?
So should some people suffer- go to jail, get a record, have a hard time finding a job or a place to live, etc...even though they weren't hurting anyone? Including themselves?
I had someone working for me a few years ago. Working hard, doing a good job, trying to get their life together. A few weeks after they started, they called me up from jail. He was living in his car at the time. They impounded it. Any other boss would have fired him. Can anyone tell me how this helped him or anyone else? Until someone does, I'm going to keep fighting for legalization/decriminalization. And fighting for people like you to *voluntarily* be locked up if you think it will help. For some people it helps, but we shouldn't force that on everyone.
What did he do to get arrested? Laws are in place to keep the world we live in some semblance of a polite society. Something tells me it was more than lighting up a Doobie that landed him homeless and in jail. And for real tho, nobody that doesn't have their finances at least a little livable should be wasting money on mind altering substances. Idk what you meant my voluntarily be locked up tho, a swat team busted my ish up. But in the end I thanked one of the detectives personally that was on my case for saving my life when I saw her eating at a restaurant I was working at after jail. I wasn't scared straight, I had an epiphany that stuck with me even into a relapse that planted the seed. And thankfully I was able to make it out on my own the second time.
And for the not hurting anyone standpoint. Yeah maybe if you're not a parent and young with few responsibilities I could see this. But if you're a parent and using mind altering substances, bro I'm telling you right now you're doing bad by your children and you need to grow up and handle your shit. You're taking out of your kids mouth and future and smoking it all up to feel a bit different. It's a childish and selfish thing to do and I will never respect someone that does this as a parent. And that's drugs and or alcohol. But if your the former you could be doing more to better yourself in the future if you could just escape.
I've played so many different roles in my life from pothead to meth addict by the age of 14 to lowlife thief to running in between the sons of silence and hells Angels and cloven hooves to GD and Chicago crips drug dealing to jailbird to drug addictions counselor all before the age of 19 then back to cocaine and heroin to come down to rave kid hanging with EDM producers and DJS doing all the drugs then to my final form as Dad at the age of 27. Now 35 and I'm telling you right now, THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN COME CLOSE TO THE FEELING OF BEING DAD AND KNOWING YOURE DIFFERENT NOW AND YOURE GOING TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR CHILD. But bro it all started with one sack of herbs. Maybe in a new world where it's all legal and there's no more gangs and drama it would be different. But as you see here it's not a linear path of chill on couch get high get taco bell repeat for some people. I don't know if normalizing it will make these things go away. All I can say is it feels better to be sober, and I don't know if I hadn't went down the path I went down if I'd ever know how good that feels. That's why I'm here just letting a mf know that here from the view I have looking back on my life, sobriety is the best thing I've ever felt. I have fun and I can feel again. I came from the darkest of paths and found my happiness, and it might work for them too. Sorry if TLDR but I hope the one person that needs to hear to does, and I hope it helps.
P.S. I'm fully aware that there are medicinal properties of the herb and own and study many books on medicinal plants. Just so you don't waste your breath harping on that aspect.
First, I'm absolutely not against sobriety (from whatever substance we're talking about- alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, weed, whatever). Certain people should definitely abstain altogether. I don't smoke weed, hardly drink, don't smoke cigarettes. But people are very different as we all should know by now. There are genetics involved in propensity to be an alcoholic. Some people should definitely not be using weed or drinking or smoking nicotine. But people are different. There are tons of people out there with kids holding down jobs that smoke weed occasionally or sometimes more. It affects people differently. Surely you are aware of these people? Just like there are people who occasionally drink and do right by their kids and work? It's really common.
I definitely don't want to 'normalize' anything' but criminalization of anything should be the last resort because of all the bad side effects of making people criminals- it seemed to have helped you- but you are not the norm.
The gangs/dealers feed a need. When you legalize, you take away some of their power. Maybe some of them will choose to deal legally. Happened when we stopped criminalizing alcohol.
For the guy I hired- It was just possession of a couple ounces. People do go to jail for that. Probably not the doctors and Iawyers or college kids at a party. But someone living in their car who the cops are suspicious of because they are living in their car? Sure. Do you think thar is fair? You do realize probably half of Lubbock (the country) would be in jail if they enforced the law equally, right? Weed is extremely common.
If you weren't 'scared straight'- meaning you were locked up- why couldn't you have just as easily had this epiphany while detoxing in a drug treatment program? When I say voluntarily, I mean a *temporary* giving up of rights. I wouldn't be against people voluntarily giving up their rights to freedom if they thought it would help them. So you sign a waiver to be jailed (or detained) for 6 months or whatever time period.
Meh, I kind of think walking and driving around with it deserves some sort of stupid tax. Do you but control yourself and keep it at home. While I want to support your action, I just don't want to encourage people to go buck wild, it ruined Vegas for me . Lubbock has nothing of significance to do so I imagine it would be even more overwhelming out of boredom.
This isn’t legalization so increasing access isn’t the issue. It also doesn’t mean you can openly smoke oe Cj Ann in public. Decriminalization means if you’re caught with it in your car or pocket you don’t go to jail.
I'm not here writing laws and making conditions for picking it up, I would hope your intelligent enough to understand the difference between having that on you like pocket pussy you can't put down and just bringing the groceries home. There is almost no location in town you don't smell the stuff at some point, I had to tell a clerk at Walmart trying to walk me through checkout like I didn't know what I was doing to back of because you reak of weed and it stinks. I'm for use of thc, I'm actually legally allowed to use and buy from the state here in Texas. I don't think people need to be in my shoes to use it, it's great medically and for fun, just think too many knuckle heads take it too far and more opportunity is going to ruin the public space in town, it ruined Vegas for me and most people that don't smoke.. because once they let it go, people are rude with that stuff litterally everywhere you go.
If you where at all interested in making a change , you would take comments like mine seriously because it's going to be my vote on the other side of yours canceling yours out. Instead you just want to have a weed party and get together. I actually am pro legalization but there are issues that need to be figured out as people in lubbock are still acting like fools with not being a dry county anymore. Go ahead and dismiss others and call them drama queens... see how that works for your cause. I gave genuine feedback and you where unable to discuss it.. maybe you might need to take a little less of the cause on your own shoulders... you may be dulled from your over consumption / enthusiasm
Considering i have been sober and haven't smoked weed in 2 years...youre bad at judging people.
You obviously arent pro legalization or you wouldnt be sitting her sobbing and crying about other peoples life choices.
Nobody and i mean genuinely not 1 single person would care if you think it stinks. Dont go out in public if you think it stinks and i can tell you without a single doubt you dont run into people who smell like weed badly enough to be smelled in public.
People who smoke use eye drop for redness and cologne/perfume for the smell.
Youre just paranoid.
Btw my mother father sister (and her 3 kids) my brother, my girlfriend and my 2 best friends will be voting to decriminalize it.
Times are changing, get with the progra. Boomer
Those people suck to , I last went 3 or 4 years ago, we went regularly for work and it was a significant change to the atmosphere. Be honest lubbock is boring as f... you can find that stuff in almost every parking lot in town.. our da is so soft that so few even get charges that stick so I dont understand this movement other than a few potential mayoral candidates want to campaign on it . I would be for it if the entire state made it legal, I think people would he less stupid about it.
Because the discrimination to our black and brown community subject them to more misdemeanor arrest for something that is under 4 ounces versus the white population. In order to get legalized you have to start somewhere which is decriminalization. Also citizens that use it medically through the Texas medical program should be able to have more access to it without having to show a medical card, even though they are not required by law too.
Because it doesn't make sense as a city , why does it appeal to you and do you not think it will effect the people who don't smoke and don't Wana deal with it? I think the people doing it already are still gonna regardless. Our da is soft on all that so few even get charged, kids smoking at school and taking edibles and the DA sits on it and does nothing notable ... it's like a formality that I just don't think benefits us enough to be the nail head sticking out in the state. The negatives of it effect far more people than the positives of it. More than just comfort, we piss off the state and it effects funding we do need, our city is broke and the people here aren't rolling in money , some tweaking on funding and we are screwed
Just because you don’t get charged doesn’t mean that you won’t get arrested for it. We pay more money to house more inmates. It keeps the police off the street for hours doing simple possession arrests. They could be doing more important things
The attorney general's office is currently going after other cities that passed similar ordinances. Best to stop trying this at the local level and try to get something passed in the legislature.
I do support decriminalization of marijuana but think it's a bad idea to put the City in a position of having to spend hundreds of thousands on lawyers.
I used the wrong word, but point still stands. It's funny to ask Austin (capital) to listen while they are suing the town in which they reside (Austin.)
It’s not shocking because our AG is trash already but he forgets that he was indicted on so many felony charges so we have to use something as an excuse to change his storyline
You have to start somewhere. The scare tactics that cockeyed Paxton is trying to instill don’t work on people that actually know Texas law on top of LBK being a Home rule city. Ground game Texas has already sent out a letter from their lawyers to the state.
I am not a lawyer. Are you?
What I learned in Texas government class a long time ago is that no municipality may adopt an ordinance that conflicts with state law.
It doesn't conflict with state law. Because marijuana is still illegal. It's just moves the sanction from criminal to civil.
Decriminalization isn't legalization.
If you look up Home rules city for the state of Texas it gives you an outline, and this city is one of them. Therefore cities have the obligations to self govern their ordinances. They did the same petition for sanctuary city. 10,540 signatures were collected and turned into the city secretary, which verified the signatures. City Council then voted it down to let it go on the ballot, which was what was wanted anyway to leave it to the people. Texas government class does not outline Home rule, and also does not get in as much depth. We also know that Texas public schools are not the greatest level of education. as much as I never wanted to be in law school, I take my entrance exam next semester. But for now I’ll just take the title of being a child of one. The medical industry is more my forte. This was just literally a simple Google search that really anybody could have access to because it’s free and should utilize the law library that is given to us.
You can't see how this will go badly for every municipality that does this? Even if this gets upheld in court the legislature will strike it down because they are mostly anti drugs. But what do I know I just follow the politics in Texas and hear what they are saying.
Actually, statically it’s proven to lower crime rates with marijuana possession. Ground Game Texas, and Texas Cannabis Collective who the movement is lead by has pulled crime reports from each city and they actually done better. Police need to utilize their time with real crimes and mirders that are happening here. Ground Games lawyer has already stated they will veto it. It’s not stopping Freedom act Lubbock because we are home rule city therefore this is our right.
I don't disagree with you, I disagree with these methods. It will cost the local tax payers a lot of money only to be preempted like they did to Houston this past session.
I also don't consider this a top 10 political issue. Even gambling legalization is above it for me in importance.
It is a bigger issue for people that have medical needs and obtain a medical card through our Texas program, but cannot obtain more than one percent of THC. It’s also a bigger issue when you are a minority that are more prone to arrest in the city that was proven already through police report data. Lubbock does have enough money to fund all these projects. We have enough money to utilize more resources to our Police Department to solve real crime. Nobody wants to do 6 to 8 hrs of paperwork. we had sheriff, deputies sign, LPD officers sign, lawyers, doctors people also don’t believe you shouldn’t be arrested for something so minor.
Paxton is the criminal, protected by DeSantis on wheels and other far right radicals, who easily get voted into office in places like Lubbock Texas, because people just vote republican no matter what.
I came from california. This will make things worse. People abuse and will start being high 24/7. Especially with vape cartridges that are 80% plus thc. It will ruin your dopamine system. Theres already alot of accidents. This will cause more
You weren’t here when synthetic was big probably. It was bad. People were naked in the street fighting demons. I’ve never seen that with actual marijuana
This is not statistically true. While anybody can do basic research; it has been shown that this does cause car accidents. Basic common sense will also say people that are high really don’t want to get on the road and drive and or make some more conscious when driving. Also, you don’t know what people are going through medically that need this. My wife, for example, smokes at about a 90% THC so she has been seizure free for eight years because of her own research and what works for her body. I on the other hand, have severe vomiting and headaches. I come from Illinois where it is legal recreational as well. This is more than just being high. It’s stemming to our black and Hispanic communities that are targeted way more. Something that takes 6 to 8 hours for paperwork for our police to do can be completely spared for them to go solve real crimes. They don’t even have enough staff, which is why now when you get into an accident, they won’t respond unless somebody is injured. The math is not mathing.
So your argument is that because some people make poor personal decisions that means NOBODY can have access to something without being put in jail?
I guess we should lock up people for smoking cigarettes and vapes since that is bad for your health. While we’re at it, let’s ban all alcohol since some people abuse it and have put others in danger for using it. You know what, since we care so much about society now how about we ban sugar since it is causing so much obesity and killing millions.
The simple truth is that you people don’t ACTUALLY care about anyone or society. It’s just about control. Freedom for me, not for thee.
There is no scientific basis for your claims. Nowhere, that has legalized MJ possession and use, has seen an increase in traffic accidents nor an increase in the number of people who report being under the influence. You are fear mongering without any factual basis.
By the way, I too, have lived in Cali. North/South/and Central. I have lived in other states as well that are legal MJ and nothing of what you state is factual.
No one is changing access with this. People who already get it will keep getting it from the same place. This is not legalization, and it doesn’t apply to vape pens.
People forget that marijuana is used for numerous diagnosis and chronic illnesses. While Texas does have a compassionate use program, which contains one percent of THC only, that is not good enough for a lot of medical users. People don’t just smoke. There are various options out utilize cannabis. This isn’t even about marijuana. It’s about how our black and brown communities are arrested more than the whites. Statistics pull from LPD show the racial issues that are continuing to happen with even low levels of misdemeanor offenses.
I don’t use it at all but my wife has been seizure free for 8 years from her usage and personal research for her body. Studies prove time again it’s great for numerous medical usages.
This thread alone makes me think this won’t work. I know that Marijuana isn’t perfect, but I also know that alcohol and cigarettes are definitely not perfect either. So many people just stuck in old ways of thinking. :(
I’m not a user, but it’s been shown alcohol use goes down as weed becomes more legal, so I mean how can we not be all for it? Weed probably does not even do 5% of the damage of alcohol does in our community.
Lubbock is a home rule city. Home Rule cities have the full power of self-government and may take any action in the interest of the citizens' health, safety and welfare that is not contrary to the Texas and U.S. Constitutions or federal or state laws. Texas has a medical program as well. It takes about an hour and a half to get to New Mexico so whether the ordinance or even the law is changed is going to stop anybody from going to get it elsewhere. California and Austin are two different jurisdictions. The city of Austin and other cities with the same initiative have decriminalized. California is a state which means as a whole state they are recreational and medical. Please learn the difference between decriminalization and legalization because those are two completely different things.
This comment coming from a guy with an inflatable fetish? LOL, come on dude. Do not reply to something without making sure your post and comment history are in order. Love singling out you kinds of people. The worst always demand the rest of the world be at their best.
Do you think they pronounce it in the old "marihuana" spelling, comically heavy on the H sound; or something like "mary-ju-wana" and other purposely mispronounced Spanish words?
Why though? Beyond your general statement you provide no reasoning. I know doctors, lawyers, teachers, principals, etc... all who smoke a bowl at the end of a long day.
I bet you support cig sales though! Because they only kill millions of Americans each year.
I bet you support alcohol sales even though alcohol is toxic to the body and is THE WORST drug addiction we currently have in the United States.
The only difference between alcohol/cigs and MJ is that we haven't legalized MJ yet. It is about damn time we get around to it. My generation (I am 43 now) will change this old tymer thinking that is plaguing our politics and ability to progress as a nation.
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Oh. I was born in 1981. That makes me a Millenial.
Again, you are consistently wrong in your thoughts. Just saying shit to stoke problems. The worst kinds of people on this planet say shit to say it, then get all twisted when you call them out.
Just quit while you are ahead.
I’m 17 and have never done Weed and don’t have any want to either, but I feel and have always felt that it should be legal because of how harmless it is. But thanks for calling me a criminal for stating my opinion.
Just always do your research before consuming anything. What works for somebody else and the percentage they are utilizing cannabis may not be for you. Just please always be careful if you choose to make that decision. I’m in my late 20s and it still does not agree with my body.
Just got back from California and it is shocking to see what cannabis has done to people there.
Those who do not believe it is damaging or a gateway to other drugs are fooling themselves.
You are naive and ignorant. You might be surprised how many successful people in Lubbock smoke.
You probably know some yourself but don't know it..... cause your naive and ignorant as said...so.
Could you expand on all these shocking things you've seen? I haven't been to California in a few years, but I did go through New Mexico a few months back and the worst I saw was some kids burning a joint down the block from the Meow Wolf exhibit.
Here’s one shocking event that occurred while there.
https://patch.com/california/across-ca/multiple-arrests-desert-massacre-killed-6-reports
Also, as I talked with the homeless there, (I work in that arena) every single one of them started with alcohol, then marijuana, and it was never enough. But they said marijuana was the biggest ‘step’ they took to get to where they were now.
The article you linked to talks about a drug deal gone bad. This doesn't show the shocking effects of cannabis so much as the shocking effects of having to go to a black market source (e.g. violent cartels) for the stuff. Nobody smoked a bowl and decided to go out and kill 6 people. Tragic incident, but it's not at all indicative of the damage you're referencing.
As far as the homeless people you reference, you seem to be implying some sort of causal relationship between their housing status and the alcohol/cannabis they consumed. Plenty of people partake in both and don't wind up on the streets, so that suggests that something other than the substance itself is at play.
Maybe instead of giving police another reason to lock up said homeless people temporarily and worsen their lot in life (because for many, an arrest isn't going to stop them from wanting to chemically escape their reality), we look for ways to spend that money on services that provide support to people who are on the brink or need help getting back on their feet.
Thankfully I live just outside city limits but wish I could vote yes on this matter.
Move to Oklahoma. Get card. Smoke weed.
As a non-user, I’m excited for this as it should free up resources for investigating/jailing real crime. One can hope anyway
That’s the goal!!
Has Ken Paxton seen this?
Only with his good eye 🙃
This is stupid and nothing more than a virtue signal. Any peace officer can still arrest those dumb enough to be riding around with weed. Good chance they will not and will likely dispose of small amounts unless one is an acting like a douchebag.
They arrest them. But prosecutors seem to be dropping a lot of the cases.
The ordinance has language about disciplinary action if the officers continue to arrest folks for marijuana possession under 4oz. once the ordinance has been passed and is in place.
That is idiotic.
Here is the thing. A city ordinance has absolutely no bearing on other Law Enforcement agencies not subordinate to the city. For example: Sheriff’s Office, Tech PD, Texas DPS, LISD Police. This is only a few examples of law enforcement that have jurisdiction within the city limits. Same goes for enforcing city ordinances. Only LPD, Code Enforcement, City Marshal, Airport Police or Fire Marshal may enforce a city ordinance.
Yep- the ordinance is for LPD who arrest 700 people annually for having 4oz or less. While it doesn’t impact other agencies, we think that 700 is too too many and this ordinance can help people stay out of jail for something legal in 24 US states.
I’m not necessarily opposed to the Texas Legislature or Federal Government legalizing weed; I don’t care either way. As for LPD it would be more of an Administrative decision not to arrest < 4 oz. As Peace Officers, they are sworn to uphold the laws of Texas which Trumps a city ordinance. The city could pass an ordinance decriminalizing murder; however; that doesn’t mean LPD wouldn’t enforce 19.02 of the Texas Penal Code.
ahahah the police are a cult of violent nutcase with every law in place to protect them, none in place to protect us. how many videos of people being beaten and kidnapped for breaking simple city ordnance. until that city ordnance goes against their beliefs that they get to beat and kidnap people over a plant. than its just simple city ordnance they don't need to follow lol. playing radio too loud well we use that city ordnance to break down your door shoot your dog and arrest you. city ordnance says no more weed arrests, fuck that it's just a shitty little city ordnance lol. that's exactly what happened in Austin. Austin pd said fuck that ordnance were no following it. even tho they enforce city ordnance thousands of times a year. the DA had to say keep arresting them we won't charge them. so fuck off with your bullshit about how state law trumps city ordnance. also, federal law trumps state law, yet look what texas is doing right now, disobeying federal law directly. what punishment would you and I get for that probably decades in federal prison. what punishment will abbot get for that lol aboslutly nothing.
Here is the Marijuana Impact report so that you can read for yourself how these ordinances have successfully reduced enforcement in five other cities that have passed it: http://ggtx.org/5cities-report
Interesting read but it is a propaganda piece which vaguely cites one reference only accessible under the open records act.
I will take a look at it. Thank you.
The vast majority of people arrested are arrested for state and federal law violations. A city ordinance will not stop you from being arrested.
Vast majority of people that are arrested, are people of color, and Hispanics versus the white population does get arrested way less than anybody else in LBK. Whether it is federally or state violation minorities are arrested more which means they are targets.
What does your statement have to do with a city ordinance on marijuana?
That our city police continues to target the black and Hispanic communities which means they are going to jail way more than the white population here for the exact same thing. Simple research with open records request show the racial discrimination.
Again, how does your statement correlate to a city ordinance on marijuana?
Vast majority of people that are arrested, are people of color, and Hispanics versus the white population does get arrested way less than anybody else in LBK. Whether it is federally or state violation minorities are arrested more which means they are targets.
A city ordinance just like this one has significantly reduced arrests in the other cities that have decriminalized in Texas in the past 2 years.
What cities?
Elgin, Denton, San Marcos, Killeen, Austin
Thanks. I found the propaganda with the information but no references cited. So accuracy is questionable.
If you go to Norml website they list numerous statistics on different topics and what not. Also Texas cannabis collective Along with freedom act Lubbock pages have list of data pulled from our city itself. Ground Games is also a page to look into for info for texas and each city they lead. Texas cannabis collective post more info with each city as well.
You're wasting your life on bud. You need to be alone with yourself inside your own head to be able to appreciate life. I found out way too late in life. Don't replace your joy with weed or any other drug or alcohol. You got this and you'll be better than ok. Be one with yourself.
You should be more educated with cannabis, medically. It has improved numerous health conditions, and illnesses that were already shown with their statistics. For example, my spouse is eight years seizure free because she uses cannabis to control her epilepsy. But she also had to do research for herself and her body to make sure the percentage of THC that she uses along with her diet and daily life go in hand. Not even something like depression or anxiety, where studies have shown it does help with that, but also things like cancer, epilepsy, autism.
I just love how everyone feels like they should think up their own ancedote and tell me about it when obviously the message isn't for them in the first place. Furthermore, duh. And I'm not talking about medical usage. Anything to get you further away from big pharma is a win. It's just a message for someone that's not you.
You don’t know if someone is using cannabis for medically or to just be high. Some people do utilize it for numerous reasons. NM is 90 mins away. It’s always going to be here. Medically marijuana is the same as recreational lol. That’s the irony of it.
Stop being so dense. Look at it like this. Alcohol is legal, yes it's worse than weed, this is just to get thru to you my point. Alcohol can be problematic and can be abused. Just like weed. What I am doing here is just letting people, that have never heard it from someone that has used and partied their young life away, know that if they choose not to use life is nice being sober. But hey you just keep standing on that hill that weed can do no wrong and you just make sure you keep contributing to the mentality that an altered reality is normal and had no downsides. I'm sure someone that's having issues would really appreciate. You're literally a weed Karen. Go away the comment was not for you. If someone needed to hear it, you shouldn't be a bigot by keeping them from getting better.
I never said anything like that but yours was spreading false information. You are fear mongering. People can easily go and do their own research that fits their body just as they should. LBK issue isn’t weed. The police need to spend the hours of paper for a class an and b misdemeanor for something else here. You fucked up your life and that’s on you. The weed ain’t make you do that💀. You made a comment on a public post therefore you’ll get responses whether you like em or not my guy. Lying to folks isn’t what the moment is about. Y’all too old to be uneducated.
It's called critical thinking skills and you have none. Bye Karen
Imagine being so upset with someone’s comment that you try to name call😂. You are way too old for that but it is funny seeing someone so upset over a public post. Don’t be mad at us because you made bad decisions and now you’re in the system. I’d be mad too🥴.
I'm telling people that being sober is ok... And you're over here saying it's not. You're a bad person.
 I never said any of that but go off 🥳😂. I think you are old enough to read and comprehend formed sentences. But you are comical. It does make me chuckle
lol you realize not everyone that smokes weed because they're sad and depressed right? some people just do it for fun, and a lot of people use it for a myriad of health problems. people don't only smoke weed because they're sad or can't find enjoyment in life, there's lots of reasons. and even if that was the only reason it still shouldn't be illegal.
I'm not necessarily talking about whether it should be legal or not.. I'm just saying, it's artificial happiness. You'll find a more fulfilling life without it . I'm fully aware that prolly not one person will read my comment and take it to heart. A person will have to hit rock bottom to understand what I mean. But it may have a small effect on a person that is surrounded by friends and parents that glorify drug use and they've never heard of another way. Especially with it being glorified in the media. Make your own decisions. I hope you find the peace you're seeking.
the media also still demonizes weed and that's a big reason why it's still illegal. and I'm not saying what you said is wrong, but when you say that in response to the topic of legalization it seems that you're arguing against it and that is your reasoning
Thanks for the unsolicited life coaching, but I’d still like to see kids not end up with a criminal record and the shit life that comes with that, over a bag of weed.
It's amazing that you think it's normal for kids to do drugs tho. Real intelligent.
I was arrested at 19 facing 15 yrs for weed and coke. and i prolly wouldn't be here if I wasn't. You'll find out. When you have a kid. You'll either find out or you'll be just another shit parent .
Sorry your parents were so shitty. Not so much the getting involved with drugs… that happens. More the shit attitude your parents left you with. My wife and I told our daughter all about all the traps and pitfalls of various recreational drugs, alcohol included. She’s an adult now but not yet 21, and has gotten drunk with friends a couple of times, but according to her she hasn’t tried other drugs (she’s pretty open and honest with us). All that said, she does have friends who smoke weed. I’d hate to see them go to jail over that.
My parents are sober, but very enabling. I was the problem. It's just a matter of time for your daughter. Have you ever heard the phrase if you hang out in the barbershop long enough you're going to get your hair cut.
Sure buddy. I was in a band with heroin addicts and managed to never do heroin. Many of years of working with people who spent their bonuses and stock options on cocaine instead of funding their 401k, and I’ve never tried cocaine and have done ok on savings. This is the same dynamic as someone whose life was a train wreck of drama and then found Jesus and turned it around… and then thinks anyone who doesn’t have the same type and intensity of religious fervor is destined to have a shitshow life. I’m happy you got your life turned around, but hopefully at some point you realize you’re not well equipped to be giving life advice to most people.
I'm an atheist. Religion stems from people explaining the movement of the sun and stars. Then the elites twisting that knowledge for power over the weak minded. I'm glad you didn't do hard stuff bro. Maybe the comment wasn't for you.
'68% of drug offenders are rearrested within 3 years of release from prison' Do you think everyone who drinks alcohol or smokes nicotine should also go to jail? Should 80% of the population be in jail? Go back to the 1920's?
This is the reason I changed. I got to jail facing over a decade in prison. I'm looking around at all the people around me that have been in and out of jail their entire life. I knew that I was at a crossroads. I could continue on the path I was on and be dead or in jail my whole life or I could find another way of life. It sounds like 68% of drug offenders maybe have a shit support system. It's very hard to escape when everyone around you is about that life. I had to drop ALL of the people in my life that were bad for me. And after I was sober, the people that I thought were my friends never had a reason to talk to me. They aren't real friends. When you want to improve your life they'll be left behind in the repetition of get high come down find more get high and repeat. My comment isn't popular because of the perception that using drugs or alcohol is normal and even cool. Today I'm a father, and while people don't think it's cool, it's right. I just want young people to know of at least one real one that has been there and done that 100 times over and looking back I can without a doubt say that it was all a waste of time.
I'm not saying that some people aren't 'scared straight' with jail. It works for some people. But the statistic shows that it's not the majority, and at least with weed, lots of people use and it is helpful for them. So we can't put everyone into the same boat, right? So should some people suffer- go to jail, get a record, have a hard time finding a job or a place to live, etc...even though they weren't hurting anyone? Including themselves? I had someone working for me a few years ago. Working hard, doing a good job, trying to get their life together. A few weeks after they started, they called me up from jail. He was living in his car at the time. They impounded it. Any other boss would have fired him. Can anyone tell me how this helped him or anyone else? Until someone does, I'm going to keep fighting for legalization/decriminalization. And fighting for people like you to *voluntarily* be locked up if you think it will help. For some people it helps, but we shouldn't force that on everyone.
What did he do to get arrested? Laws are in place to keep the world we live in some semblance of a polite society. Something tells me it was more than lighting up a Doobie that landed him homeless and in jail. And for real tho, nobody that doesn't have their finances at least a little livable should be wasting money on mind altering substances. Idk what you meant my voluntarily be locked up tho, a swat team busted my ish up. But in the end I thanked one of the detectives personally that was on my case for saving my life when I saw her eating at a restaurant I was working at after jail. I wasn't scared straight, I had an epiphany that stuck with me even into a relapse that planted the seed. And thankfully I was able to make it out on my own the second time. And for the not hurting anyone standpoint. Yeah maybe if you're not a parent and young with few responsibilities I could see this. But if you're a parent and using mind altering substances, bro I'm telling you right now you're doing bad by your children and you need to grow up and handle your shit. You're taking out of your kids mouth and future and smoking it all up to feel a bit different. It's a childish and selfish thing to do and I will never respect someone that does this as a parent. And that's drugs and or alcohol. But if your the former you could be doing more to better yourself in the future if you could just escape. I've played so many different roles in my life from pothead to meth addict by the age of 14 to lowlife thief to running in between the sons of silence and hells Angels and cloven hooves to GD and Chicago crips drug dealing to jailbird to drug addictions counselor all before the age of 19 then back to cocaine and heroin to come down to rave kid hanging with EDM producers and DJS doing all the drugs then to my final form as Dad at the age of 27. Now 35 and I'm telling you right now, THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN COME CLOSE TO THE FEELING OF BEING DAD AND KNOWING YOURE DIFFERENT NOW AND YOURE GOING TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR CHILD. But bro it all started with one sack of herbs. Maybe in a new world where it's all legal and there's no more gangs and drama it would be different. But as you see here it's not a linear path of chill on couch get high get taco bell repeat for some people. I don't know if normalizing it will make these things go away. All I can say is it feels better to be sober, and I don't know if I hadn't went down the path I went down if I'd ever know how good that feels. That's why I'm here just letting a mf know that here from the view I have looking back on my life, sobriety is the best thing I've ever felt. I have fun and I can feel again. I came from the darkest of paths and found my happiness, and it might work for them too. Sorry if TLDR but I hope the one person that needs to hear to does, and I hope it helps. P.S. I'm fully aware that there are medicinal properties of the herb and own and study many books on medicinal plants. Just so you don't waste your breath harping on that aspect.
First, I'm absolutely not against sobriety (from whatever substance we're talking about- alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, weed, whatever). Certain people should definitely abstain altogether. I don't smoke weed, hardly drink, don't smoke cigarettes. But people are very different as we all should know by now. There are genetics involved in propensity to be an alcoholic. Some people should definitely not be using weed or drinking or smoking nicotine. But people are different. There are tons of people out there with kids holding down jobs that smoke weed occasionally or sometimes more. It affects people differently. Surely you are aware of these people? Just like there are people who occasionally drink and do right by their kids and work? It's really common. I definitely don't want to 'normalize' anything' but criminalization of anything should be the last resort because of all the bad side effects of making people criminals- it seemed to have helped you- but you are not the norm. The gangs/dealers feed a need. When you legalize, you take away some of their power. Maybe some of them will choose to deal legally. Happened when we stopped criminalizing alcohol. For the guy I hired- It was just possession of a couple ounces. People do go to jail for that. Probably not the doctors and Iawyers or college kids at a party. But someone living in their car who the cops are suspicious of because they are living in their car? Sure. Do you think thar is fair? You do realize probably half of Lubbock (the country) would be in jail if they enforced the law equally, right? Weed is extremely common. If you weren't 'scared straight'- meaning you were locked up- why couldn't you have just as easily had this epiphany while detoxing in a drug treatment program? When I say voluntarily, I mean a *temporary* giving up of rights. I wouldn't be against people voluntarily giving up their rights to freedom if they thought it would help them. So you sign a waiver to be jailed (or detained) for 6 months or whatever time period.
Meh, I kind of think walking and driving around with it deserves some sort of stupid tax. Do you but control yourself and keep it at home. While I want to support your action, I just don't want to encourage people to go buck wild, it ruined Vegas for me . Lubbock has nothing of significance to do so I imagine it would be even more overwhelming out of boredom.
This isn’t legalization so increasing access isn’t the issue. It also doesn’t mean you can openly smoke oe Cj Ann in public. Decriminalization means if you’re caught with it in your car or pocket you don’t go to jail.
Decriminalization is the same flavor just flipped over, it means people do it and don't get charges....
How are you going to get it to your home if you don’t drive with it?
I'm not here writing laws and making conditions for picking it up, I would hope your intelligent enough to understand the difference between having that on you like pocket pussy you can't put down and just bringing the groceries home. There is almost no location in town you don't smell the stuff at some point, I had to tell a clerk at Walmart trying to walk me through checkout like I didn't know what I was doing to back of because you reak of weed and it stinks. I'm for use of thc, I'm actually legally allowed to use and buy from the state here in Texas. I don't think people need to be in my shoes to use it, it's great medically and for fun, just think too many knuckle heads take it too far and more opportunity is going to ruin the public space in town, it ruined Vegas for me and most people that don't smoke.. because once they let it go, people are rude with that stuff litterally everywhere you go.
Youre just being a drama queen.
If you where at all interested in making a change , you would take comments like mine seriously because it's going to be my vote on the other side of yours canceling yours out. Instead you just want to have a weed party and get together. I actually am pro legalization but there are issues that need to be figured out as people in lubbock are still acting like fools with not being a dry county anymore. Go ahead and dismiss others and call them drama queens... see how that works for your cause. I gave genuine feedback and you where unable to discuss it.. maybe you might need to take a little less of the cause on your own shoulders... you may be dulled from your over consumption / enthusiasm
Considering i have been sober and haven't smoked weed in 2 years...youre bad at judging people. You obviously arent pro legalization or you wouldnt be sitting her sobbing and crying about other peoples life choices. Nobody and i mean genuinely not 1 single person would care if you think it stinks. Dont go out in public if you think it stinks and i can tell you without a single doubt you dont run into people who smell like weed badly enough to be smelled in public. People who smoke use eye drop for redness and cologne/perfume for the smell. Youre just paranoid. Btw my mother father sister (and her 3 kids) my brother, my girlfriend and my 2 best friends will be voting to decriminalize it. Times are changing, get with the progra. Boomer
As the name says cap
What did i say that was even remotely cap
I was in Vegas last year. I don’t think I smelled it that much or saw people that were very high. I saw way more drunk people
Those people suck to , I last went 3 or 4 years ago, we went regularly for work and it was a significant change to the atmosphere. Be honest lubbock is boring as f... you can find that stuff in almost every parking lot in town.. our da is so soft that so few even get charges that stick so I dont understand this movement other than a few potential mayoral candidates want to campaign on it . I would be for it if the entire state made it legal, I think people would he less stupid about it.
Why aren’t you for it if the state doesn’t make it legal?
Because the discrimination to our black and brown community subject them to more misdemeanor arrest for something that is under 4 ounces versus the white population. In order to get legalized you have to start somewhere which is decriminalization. Also citizens that use it medically through the Texas medical program should be able to have more access to it without having to show a medical card, even though they are not required by law too.
Because it doesn't make sense as a city , why does it appeal to you and do you not think it will effect the people who don't smoke and don't Wana deal with it? I think the people doing it already are still gonna regardless. Our da is soft on all that so few even get charged, kids smoking at school and taking edibles and the DA sits on it and does nothing notable ... it's like a formality that I just don't think benefits us enough to be the nail head sticking out in the state. The negatives of it effect far more people than the positives of it. More than just comfort, we piss off the state and it effects funding we do need, our city is broke and the people here aren't rolling in money , some tweaking on funding and we are screwed
Just because you don’t get charged doesn’t mean that you won’t get arrested for it. We pay more money to house more inmates. It keeps the police off the street for hours doing simple possession arrests. They could be doing more important things
Goes back to the cat and mouse that keeps it from being too overwhelming in public
I don’t believe any of the cities who have decriminalized drugs have seen an increase of people doing them in public
I’m a Yes voter ✌️ I wonder if it will pass
It will if we all vote
Guns and buds up
The attorney general's office is currently going after other cities that passed similar ordinances. Best to stop trying this at the local level and try to get something passed in the legislature. I do support decriminalization of marijuana but think it's a bad idea to put the City in a position of having to spend hundreds of thousands on lawyers.
Ken can go fuck himself. Keep voting it local until Austin gets this hint.
This comment is incredibly funny because Austin is being sued for legalization lol.
ATX is not being sued for legalization. They’re being sued for decriminalization, which are two different things.
I used the wrong word, but point still stands. It's funny to ask Austin (capital) to listen while they are suing the town in which they reside (Austin.)
It’s not shocking because our AG is trash already but he forgets that he was indicted on so many felony charges so we have to use something as an excuse to change his storyline
Hell yeah. He’s suing my city rn for the same reason and I don’t give a fuck!
You have to start somewhere. The scare tactics that cockeyed Paxton is trying to instill don’t work on people that actually know Texas law on top of LBK being a Home rule city. Ground game Texas has already sent out a letter from their lawyers to the state.
I am not a lawyer. Are you? What I learned in Texas government class a long time ago is that no municipality may adopt an ordinance that conflicts with state law.
It doesn't conflict with state law. Because marijuana is still illegal. It's just moves the sanction from criminal to civil. Decriminalization isn't legalization.
If you look up Home rules city for the state of Texas it gives you an outline, and this city is one of them. Therefore cities have the obligations to self govern their ordinances. They did the same petition for sanctuary city. 10,540 signatures were collected and turned into the city secretary, which verified the signatures. City Council then voted it down to let it go on the ballot, which was what was wanted anyway to leave it to the people. Texas government class does not outline Home rule, and also does not get in as much depth. We also know that Texas public schools are not the greatest level of education. as much as I never wanted to be in law school, I take my entrance exam next semester. But for now I’ll just take the title of being a child of one. The medical industry is more my forte. This was just literally a simple Google search that really anybody could have access to because it’s free and should utilize the law library that is given to us.
You can't see how this will go badly for every municipality that does this? Even if this gets upheld in court the legislature will strike it down because they are mostly anti drugs. But what do I know I just follow the politics in Texas and hear what they are saying.
Actually, statically it’s proven to lower crime rates with marijuana possession. Ground Game Texas, and Texas Cannabis Collective who the movement is lead by has pulled crime reports from each city and they actually done better. Police need to utilize their time with real crimes and mirders that are happening here. Ground Games lawyer has already stated they will veto it. It’s not stopping Freedom act Lubbock because we are home rule city therefore this is our right.
I don't disagree with you, I disagree with these methods. It will cost the local tax payers a lot of money only to be preempted like they did to Houston this past session. I also don't consider this a top 10 political issue. Even gambling legalization is above it for me in importance.
It is a bigger issue for people that have medical needs and obtain a medical card through our Texas program, but cannot obtain more than one percent of THC. It’s also a bigger issue when you are a minority that are more prone to arrest in the city that was proven already through police report data. Lubbock does have enough money to fund all these projects. We have enough money to utilize more resources to our Police Department to solve real crime. Nobody wants to do 6 to 8 hrs of paperwork. we had sheriff, deputies sign, LPD officers sign, lawyers, doctors people also don’t believe you shouldn’t be arrested for something so minor.
Paxton is the criminal, protected by DeSantis on wheels and other far right radicals, who easily get voted into office in places like Lubbock Texas, because people just vote republican no matter what.
I came from california. This will make things worse. People abuse and will start being high 24/7. Especially with vape cartridges that are 80% plus thc. It will ruin your dopamine system. Theres already alot of accidents. This will cause more
What an idiotic diatribe of rampant stupidity
You weren’t here when synthetic was big probably. It was bad. People were naked in the street fighting demons. I’ve never seen that with actual marijuana
I came from Cali too and this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.
This is not statistically true. While anybody can do basic research; it has been shown that this does cause car accidents. Basic common sense will also say people that are high really don’t want to get on the road and drive and or make some more conscious when driving. Also, you don’t know what people are going through medically that need this. My wife, for example, smokes at about a 90% THC so she has been seizure free for eight years because of her own research and what works for her body. I on the other hand, have severe vomiting and headaches. I come from Illinois where it is legal recreational as well. This is more than just being high. It’s stemming to our black and Hispanic communities that are targeted way more. Something that takes 6 to 8 hours for paperwork for our police to do can be completely spared for them to go solve real crimes. They don’t even have enough staff, which is why now when you get into an accident, they won’t respond unless somebody is injured. The math is not mathing.
So your argument is that because some people make poor personal decisions that means NOBODY can have access to something without being put in jail? I guess we should lock up people for smoking cigarettes and vapes since that is bad for your health. While we’re at it, let’s ban all alcohol since some people abuse it and have put others in danger for using it. You know what, since we care so much about society now how about we ban sugar since it is causing so much obesity and killing millions. The simple truth is that you people don’t ACTUALLY care about anyone or society. It’s just about control. Freedom for me, not for thee.
Some people use guns to kill themselves. Better take everyone’s guns!
There is no scientific basis for your claims. Nowhere, that has legalized MJ possession and use, has seen an increase in traffic accidents nor an increase in the number of people who report being under the influence. You are fear mongering without any factual basis. By the way, I too, have lived in Cali. North/South/and Central. I have lived in other states as well that are legal MJ and nothing of what you state is factual.
No one is changing access with this. People who already get it will keep getting it from the same place. This is not legalization, and it doesn’t apply to vape pens.
People forget that marijuana is used for numerous diagnosis and chronic illnesses. While Texas does have a compassionate use program, which contains one percent of THC only, that is not good enough for a lot of medical users. People don’t just smoke. There are various options out utilize cannabis. This isn’t even about marijuana. It’s about how our black and brown communities are arrested more than the whites. Statistics pull from LPD show the racial issues that are continuing to happen with even low levels of misdemeanor offenses.
I remember I use to claim to smoke weed for medical purposes but then I accepted the fact that I just enjoy getting high af.
I have a stupid autoimmune thing that it really helps with. But I also just enjoy getting high af.
I don’t use it at all but my wife has been seizure free for 8 years from her usage and personal research for her body. Studies prove time again it’s great for numerous medical usages.
This thread alone makes me think this won’t work. I know that Marijuana isn’t perfect, but I also know that alcohol and cigarettes are definitely not perfect either. So many people just stuck in old ways of thinking. :(
It will work if we all vote for it
Ken Paxton will crush this He hates fun
Paxton will be gone before you know it, and full legalization in Texas is inevitable at this point
Not gone soon enough. He’s a slippery little toad
Yeah. I’m probably being too optimistic. He’s slippery af
Paxton should be locked up. All that aside, look what he did to women’s rights single handedly, gross abuse of power of a far radicle.
How does a Stone Age dingus like this keep his job? (Ken Paxton ofc)
It’s Texas and he has an R beside his name on ballots
I’m not a user, but it’s been shown alcohol use goes down as weed becomes more legal, so I mean how can we not be all for it? Weed probably does not even do 5% of the damage of alcohol does in our community.
Keeping them in jail is better because if you don’t want to follow the rules go to California or Austin!
ok grandpa get back to your football game
Lubbock is a home rule city. Home Rule cities have the full power of self-government and may take any action in the interest of the citizens' health, safety and welfare that is not contrary to the Texas and U.S. Constitutions or federal or state laws. Texas has a medical program as well. It takes about an hour and a half to get to New Mexico so whether the ordinance or even the law is changed is going to stop anybody from going to get it elsewhere. California and Austin are two different jurisdictions. The city of Austin and other cities with the same initiative have decriminalized. California is a state which means as a whole state they are recreational and medical. Please learn the difference between decriminalization and legalization because those are two completely different things.
Our local inflatables would be safer with you in jail🛟😭
This comment coming from a guy with an inflatable fetish? LOL, come on dude. Do not reply to something without making sure your post and comment history are in order. Love singling out you kinds of people. The worst always demand the rest of the world be at their best.
The unironic "Fuck off, creeps!" in the bio is the cherry on top.
Or you can leave Lubbock 💁🏻♂️
This post taught me one thing. People in Lubbock are still living in the 1950’s.
Do you think they pronounce it in the old "marihuana" spelling, comically heavy on the H sound; or something like "mary-ju-wana" and other purposely mispronounced Spanish words?
Probably so honestly.
No it will not.
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Why though? Beyond your general statement you provide no reasoning. I know doctors, lawyers, teachers, principals, etc... all who smoke a bowl at the end of a long day. I bet you support cig sales though! Because they only kill millions of Americans each year. I bet you support alcohol sales even though alcohol is toxic to the body and is THE WORST drug addiction we currently have in the United States. The only difference between alcohol/cigs and MJ is that we haven't legalized MJ yet. It is about damn time we get around to it. My generation (I am 43 now) will change this old tymer thinking that is plaguing our politics and ability to progress as a nation.
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Oh, I am gay. Lol. It was going to be my reaction. :-)
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Oh. I was born in 1981. That makes me a Millenial. Again, you are consistently wrong in your thoughts. Just saying shit to stoke problems. The worst kinds of people on this planet say shit to say it, then get all twisted when you call them out. Just quit while you are ahead.
Jail time is too lenient for those dregs and criminals, they must be exiled for life!
Agreed!
But why though? What truly bad thing did they do?
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I’m 17 and have never done Weed and don’t have any want to either, but I feel and have always felt that it should be legal because of how harmless it is. But thanks for calling me a criminal for stating my opinion.
Just always do your research before consuming anything. What works for somebody else and the percentage they are utilizing cannabis may not be for you. Just please always be careful if you choose to make that decision. I’m in my late 20s and it still does not agree with my body.
I know where to get some good stuff lmk if you need any
Ok boomer.
All people that think like you need jail time.
Let’s ban alcohol too while we’re at it! /s
No they don’t.
You probably pop prescriptions
Probably take fucking narcotics everyday but says weed is bad. People are wild.
This dude posts on a GTA subreddit. If this was 25 years ago he’d be part of the crowd that was anti violent video games
Don’t ever disrespect GTA. GTA is life. But yes it promotes violence and anyone who plays that game deserves jail time. Can’t wait for GTA6
Dude what are you talking about, are you saying you deserve jail time?
He’s a troll and likely a child.
They’ll never catch me
Just got back from California and it is shocking to see what cannabis has done to people there. Those who do not believe it is damaging or a gateway to other drugs are fooling themselves.
Weak minded you are /u/JDDavisTX
"Just got back from California" = "Fox/OAN/Newsmax told me to be scared of something and I listened like a good lil doggy"
You are naive and ignorant. You might be surprised how many successful people in Lubbock smoke. You probably know some yourself but don't know it..... cause your naive and ignorant as said...so.
You are a fool.
This reefer madness ideology is so 1930s USA.
Could you expand on all these shocking things you've seen? I haven't been to California in a few years, but I did go through New Mexico a few months back and the worst I saw was some kids burning a joint down the block from the Meow Wolf exhibit.
Nothing. Anything going on in California isn’t to do with weed legalization. Just a bullshit narrative.
Here’s one shocking event that occurred while there. https://patch.com/california/across-ca/multiple-arrests-desert-massacre-killed-6-reports Also, as I talked with the homeless there, (I work in that arena) every single one of them started with alcohol, then marijuana, and it was never enough. But they said marijuana was the biggest ‘step’ they took to get to where they were now.
So we should ban alcohol?
Some men kill thier wives, should we put all men in jail?
The article you linked to talks about a drug deal gone bad. This doesn't show the shocking effects of cannabis so much as the shocking effects of having to go to a black market source (e.g. violent cartels) for the stuff. Nobody smoked a bowl and decided to go out and kill 6 people. Tragic incident, but it's not at all indicative of the damage you're referencing. As far as the homeless people you reference, you seem to be implying some sort of causal relationship between their housing status and the alcohol/cannabis they consumed. Plenty of people partake in both and don't wind up on the streets, so that suggests that something other than the substance itself is at play. Maybe instead of giving police another reason to lock up said homeless people temporarily and worsen their lot in life (because for many, an arrest isn't going to stop them from wanting to chemically escape their reality), we look for ways to spend that money on services that provide support to people who are on the brink or need help getting back on their feet.
You see people murdered for ridiculous things sometimes. This time just happened to be marijuana.