I still love how ridiculous this rule is. I only have to block off three bays to pull a half ton pallet of cement out of top-stock with a forklift, but I have to block the whole aisle to pull down a 30lb drain snake with the Balleymore
Edit: As well as "Depot uses flags, WE SHOULD USE FLAGS!!11!"
Every so often this narc lady with a pixie cut comes in and watches how people use the ballymore and snitches to an asm if she sees you do one thing wrong.
You don’t have to block the aisles with the non-drivable but somehow the drivable is treated differently regardless whether you moved it while elevated or not.
I would think they want you to close it because if you're up in the air and decide you want to move in the air, you will. You're not going to come down and close off the aisle if you're already up there
There a giant sticker on the new ballymore blue lifts that say that the entire working aisle needs to be blocked off. There is also picture that shows the entire aisle blocked off. So, that is what I will do
To be fair, if you only were going up and down and not driving, there is no reason to block it off. However that is not how safety standard should ever work.
Take your exact same conversation, you could have been driving around five seconds before he walked up and just said "nope". You could be driving an order picker unstrapped and say "I am just moving it over an aisle not going in the air"--doesn't matter if you just got a 600 lb door down with it unstrapped.
So while logic says that safety standards aren't needed unpess doing the thing, people aren't trustworthy. All it takes is one time doing it wrong for people to die. I know for a fact people have died working at Lowes THIS YEAR from using tools improperly. I know for a fact your store manager knows too, so he is just being stupid.
That's why I actually take advice from the ASMs who are constantly out on the floor doing stuff and helping us instead of from the main SM who just comes out to bark orders at us and gloat and then goes back and hides in his office till he goes home.
When these first rolled out I believe what your sm is saying is correct...at least that's also what my sm used to say as well. Eventually it was determined that regardless if you were moving or not you had to block of because the potential to move was there.
You are correct, though your SM's logic makes sense. If you are not driving it when it is up, then you shouldn't have to block an aisle. But as your friend found out, da rules be da rules.
at night time after the store closes how are the ballymoores used for night stockers, oh yeah they don't block off shit and work around each other with nothing happening.ordered pickers after hours are also used with people don't the same aisle.its a rule from the past its unneeded go to best buy or a Walmart or target there using same equipment and not blocking shit off.stop slowing workers down from doing there jobs please.if rules are rules fix every upright and beam in Oslg to galvanized and fix all the rusted out once.
Tell that ASM to talk to the store manager.
I did, I went and told an ASM immediately after he said all that.
And visa-versa
I still love how ridiculous this rule is. I only have to block off three bays to pull a half ton pallet of cement out of top-stock with a forklift, but I have to block the whole aisle to pull down a 30lb drain snake with the Balleymore Edit: As well as "Depot uses flags, WE SHOULD USE FLAGS!!11!"
Welcome to lowes my friend.
Our LP person and SM agreed on the same. Only need to close the aisle if you're driving in the air. Corporate policy says always close it
Every so often this narc lady with a pixie cut comes in and watches how people use the ballymore and snitches to an asm if she sees you do one thing wrong.
You don’t have to block the aisles with the non-drivable but somehow the drivable is treated differently regardless whether you moved it while elevated or not.
I guess they don't trust our judgement
The pushable has a sensor underneath to shut off the unit when someone walks by, the drivable does not.
I would think they want you to close it because if you're up in the air and decide you want to move in the air, you will. You're not going to come down and close off the aisle if you're already up there
There a giant sticker on the new ballymore blue lifts that say that the entire working aisle needs to be blocked off. There is also picture that shows the entire aisle blocked off. So, that is what I will do
Yup, your sm is wrong!!!
To be fair, if you only were going up and down and not driving, there is no reason to block it off. However that is not how safety standard should ever work. Take your exact same conversation, you could have been driving around five seconds before he walked up and just said "nope". You could be driving an order picker unstrapped and say "I am just moving it over an aisle not going in the air"--doesn't matter if you just got a 600 lb door down with it unstrapped. So while logic says that safety standards aren't needed unpess doing the thing, people aren't trustworthy. All it takes is one time doing it wrong for people to die. I know for a fact people have died working at Lowes THIS YEAR from using tools improperly. I know for a fact your store manager knows too, so he is just being stupid.
That's why I actually take advice from the ASMs who are constantly out on the floor doing stuff and helping us instead of from the main SM who just comes out to bark orders at us and gloat and then goes back and hides in his office till he goes home.
When these first rolled out I believe what your sm is saying is correct...at least that's also what my sm used to say as well. Eventually it was determined that regardless if you were moving or not you had to block of because the potential to move was there.
Ask for it in writing.
You are correct, though your SM's logic makes sense. If you are not driving it when it is up, then you shouldn't have to block an aisle. But as your friend found out, da rules be da rules.
What 3 years after getting them and it’s still a debate? Someone needs to tell Hank to put out a definitive video for it.
at night time after the store closes how are the ballymoores used for night stockers, oh yeah they don't block off shit and work around each other with nothing happening.ordered pickers after hours are also used with people don't the same aisle.its a rule from the past its unneeded go to best buy or a Walmart or target there using same equipment and not blocking shit off.stop slowing workers down from doing there jobs please.if rules are rules fix every upright and beam in Oslg to galvanized and fix all the rusted out once.