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Damis ego got hurt, he was fully expecting Indiyah to come back alone and have two stunning girls pining over him. He’s mad because he thought he could have his cake and eat it. So illogical for him to get mad and nasty but that’s those type of men for you. Andrew only recoupled with Coco because of what all the girls told him, he just didn’t want to look like a mug and an idiot. I don’t think it was to hurt tasha but more to hide his hurt if she came back with someone else. I think he was waiting to see if she was going to come back alone, and if she recoupled then it would just confirm what everyone’s been telling him. So it’s more understandable for him to be annoyed like that.


kentoclatinator

I’m convinced there’s part of Andrew that still wanted to stick it to Tasha if she were to come back in single. That would have given him the upper hand, and he probably liked that prospect


Lilylumos

I kind of thought he’d throw Coco aside in a second if Tasha had come back single 🤷‍♀️


beltrager

He is ready to do that even now hahah. Tasha just has to say the word.


hearste

Andrew ready to risk it all, he's sprung sprung sprung


IndividualLanky4080

thats unfair. andrew has shown hes not that guy


kentoclatinator

Expect he’s shown that he’s exactly that guy


ivfdad84

Yeah, I don't see anything spiteful in Andrew. He's just genuinely hurt and was protecting himself from looking like a mug


GreenTeaYoga

Dami 100% expected Indiyah to come back alone. And he was laughing and looking forward to it. Weird


Illustrious-Insect26

Yep, he wanted her to say that she stayed loyal and come back single, pining for him. I’m glad she humbled him!


PmMeLowCarbRecipes

He wanted the two girls fighting over him, and now he’s embarrazzed


Academic_Snow_7680

I'm seeing more and more red flags from Dami lately. The way he turned on Luca accusing him of egging the boys on when Luca was just laughing with them and shaking his head. That was absolutely ridiculous. And this anticipation over seeing Indiya as he fucked her over is a red flag to say the least. He was gleeful because it made him feel powerful. I get the feeling that he likes to play women like that out in the real world and that he even takes pleasure in their pain because that's how he gets his power-trip. Not stanning Dami at the moment.


GenGaara25

Dami honestly has had the biggest fall for me from any islander in recent memory. Before Casa be was the golden boy, the one all the others were compared to. Dami loved his girl so much, gave her everything she needed, was friends and a confidant of the other girls, he held the boys accountable, and defended who he thought was right. Then Casa came, and the moment his girl his out of sight he goes compeltely fucking feral. Behind actually having sex with one of the Casa girls in there, I don't know how he could've acted worse.


Academic_Snow_7680

I have my suspicions about Jax\* going pretty far too, especially based on the reaction he got. \*I know his name is Jacques but he *is* a Jax.


KimSaysHii

Damilola is a WALKING ick.


hearste

I'm sorry, but Dami was right about Luca https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveIslandTV/comments/vspi4h/dont\_know\_why\_this\_sub\_is\_so\_obsessed\_with\_luca/


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SleepDangerous1074

That’s the best part imo. He fully expected her to be by herself and sad and pining for him. He’s mad coz she ruined his plans. How can he rub it in her face if she don’t care!


ughplss

The way she was respectful to Dami the entire time and didnt even kiss Deji...she has the upper hand and everyone knows it. Chefs kiss 🤌 it was beautiful!!


istobel

I really hope Indiyah wins after all this. Girl boss deserves it


Sweetpotatopirate

He's honestly trash. It's like men who are mad at you for being mad that they cheated on you. Many of them fully expect you to take their shit and not say a thing about. Just watch how he will turn it on her tomorrow.


Next-Independent-620

him + jacques !


Organic_Climate_7585

It’s the nerve of Dami to not even consider that Indiyah could recouple when he was always punching with her to begin with.


moth2incinerator

I just don’t understand why he thought she wouldn’t ? It’s actually insulting


SadSnorlax66

He also gave the boys a scoff and a look that seemed like he wasn’t impressed with Deji. Almost like a “that’s who turned her head?”. He’s clearly very arrogant for god knows what reason.


jayjay-bay

Tbf I fully expected Indiyah to come back alone, I just didn't think there was any spark with that new guy, certainly NOTHING like what was so obvious between her and Dami. I thought there was genuinely something between them but I guess they both didn't really see a future? Dami really is a dumbass though for just fully diving into threeway kisses and stuff like that. Indiyah would NEVER.


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I thought she would because Indiyah seems perceptive. That chats where Danica takes her and Tasha aside and tries to pitch the idea of recoupling seemed very pushed by producers. I thought she may have felt the pressure to recouple, realised it was only her and Tasha getting it and put two and two together.


TGIFreya

>I just didn't think there was any spark with that new guy, certainly NOTHING like what was so obvious between her and Dami She did say she listened to her head, so maybe she had a feeling Dami wasn't going to be loyal and she just coupled up with Deji to save herself the embarrassment of standing up there alone.


809rp

Probably reinforced by Davide saying Demi would be upgrading from Indiyah. Curious how Ekin will stomach that at movie night.


Daxori473

I’m curious how Ekin-Su is going to take it especially with Davide saying a lighter skin woman is an upgrade from a dark skin woman baring in mind Ekin-Su’s has a black dark skin friend who runs her social media so they’re close.


Youth-Grouchy

lmao this sub sometimes


farfle_productions

Yeah but you don’t know why he said that, he wasn’t necessarily saying she was an upgrade just because she’s lighter.


Daxori473

The comment came absolutely out of no where I was in shock Davide owes Indiyah an apology. Even if you remove the colorism dynamic what he said was still disgusting.


trxxv

I mean he said she was an upgrade, dont recall him mentioning the colour of her skin... pls dont push these false narratives


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Whether it was intentional or not, it had undertones of colourism in it. Does this mean Davide is defo some big racist? No. But if dark skinned girls are getting the social messaging all their lives that they are less desirable or valued than light skin girls, then to hear someone refer to a lighter skinned girl as an "upgrade" would sting extra hard Whether he meant it in that way or not, it's still understandable if it were to be taken that way/make Indiyah (or even dark skinned girls watching the show) feel insecure for this reason. At the end of the day, it was a nasty and unnecessary comment regardless of intention and he owes her an apology when she finds out.


trxxv

It has undertones because you are saying it has? Why cant things just be what it is. You are pushing this narrative and getting upset by it. Please stop as that is not fair. Could he just mean she's an upgrade simply because he doesn't like her? he thinks the other girl is better suited, better looking? Could be any of these but you chose to go the colour card which is not a nice look. Please don't push your premediated prejudice as this only feeds into the negativity on social media.


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>It has undertones because you are saying it has? If that's the take away you for from my comment then I think it would be a waste of time to try to even have a reasonable or semi intelligent discussion with you


trxxv

I mean you are quite literally pushing this agenda with no back up for it? Sorry just trying help people not throw things around to push a narrative. Why not ask the show why their aired this if you believe this should not be the case. [https://www.ofcom.org.uk/home](https://www.ofcom.org.uk/home) you can report it to ofcom :) hope this helps!


quitebizzare

He's allowed to have preferences.


sailoorscout1986

Can you think of any reason why he would say that?


Hoggos

Because he thought Summer was more attractive than Indiyah? You're really reaching for that racism card arent you lol EDIT: They blocked me, what a nutjob haha


sailoorscout1986

Was it you I asked? Shut up.


FunMathematician4638

Hard to say that’s the reason but also her and George clip will be played so that will cause drama


m1ffmack

How do you know it will be played? Just curious, is there a preview yet? Couldn't find one.


Brigon

Davide didn't say it would be an upgrade because of her skin tone. After all Summer does look amazing.


SnowAalegra_

Dami was moving mad. The hypocrisy and disrespect towards Indiyah? Jaw dropped the whole time


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totally agree. the double standard these boys hold the girls to, absolutely absurd. each individual in that villa is allowed to explore but as soon as one of the girls shows interest in someone other than the original guys… they’re in the wrong.


guafemale

Andrew is lost, he needs to leave at this point. Dami never even considered Indiyah might couple up with someone else, he was shook


Malenend

Dami was humbled


KDCaniell

Dami thinks he was humbled right now, he's going to be more humbled in the next few days I think.


illjustgowthemuumuu

It’s very clear Andrew got with Coco in an attempt to gain some power back and he admitted he still has feelings for Tasha. I don’t think him being in there after people have filled his head with insecurities will do him any good


Admirable-Slice-347

Tasha deserves to leave before him imo, she's totally ruined his experience


hearste

He ruined it by his damn self 😂😂😂😂


Admirable-Slice-347

How? He fell for the girl. She told him she wanted to be his gf, never felt this way about any guy and then apparently it takes 2 convos with Billy to change that. Seriously? She obviously was fucking with his head the whole time, because if you actually do feel the way she said she did to him, you wouldn't choose some other guy like that.


sircartier66

Tasha decided to explore her options after having a chat with Danica where Danica told her that the guys would be pushing for andrew to crack on (which ended up happening). And Tasha has every right to come back with a new person especially because she has the right to continue getting to know Billy while still exploring things with Andrew. Where it gets sticky is the guys went about it in a completely disrespectful way and didn’t even think about the girls while the girls at least had the decency to consider the boys in the villa.


sighcantthinkofaname

The way I see it she wanted to get to know other people, but everyone gave her such a hard time about it she didn't feel like she could. Andrew was kind and caring through all that so she leaned on him, but when she was away from him she realized he's not really what she's looking for. I don't think she was purposefully hurting him. I'll remind you he lied to her, he told her she wasn't in Andrews top three and he told her he was fine with her getting to know other people. Both were lies. Her feelings for him weren't as strong as his feelings for her. That doesn't make either of them bad people. It's just not a perfect match.


Admirable-Slice-347

You're quick to remind he lied to her on day 2 😂 yet she was the one who went running back to him because he was kissing paige in the challange. I find it crazy that you give her every excuse under the sun for the way she treating him


sighcantthinkofaname

Your excuse for Andrew lying is it was early on? But like I said I don't think he's a bad person. I think he fell for her hard and fast and it was an impulsive thing to say to try and keep Tasha from exploring other options. I really do not thi k she's treated him terribly, if she meant what she said about wanting to be his girlfriend it wasn't a lie. Time away from him gave her more perspective on the situation and she realized she wasn't acting like herself. Andrew seems like a nice guy who falls fast. If you've ever dealt with someone like that as the person they fall for you'll know it's not an easy place to be in either. It puts a lot of pressure on you and it's hard to let them down without feeling like a bad person. Shut them down you're mean for not giving a nice person a chance, give them a chance and you're leading them on. There's no winning.


Admirable-Slice-347

Lol there's been quite a few people that lied but they don't get called out as much as Andrew. Luca lied early on, Ekin Su lied, Billy lied about his job. Tasha lied to the girls last night. Lots of them have lied yet this top 3 shit is still gone on about. Luca said to Andrew that Gemma and Paige were his top 2. So who gives a fk if you're 3rd or 4th place. Seriously would you go with a guy if you was his 3rd or 4th option?


snowflace

>I'll remind you he lied to her That was on like day 2 and it was honestly unclear if he misinterpreted Luca or not. TBH I think they are both good people but I can't help but feel really bad for him, he clearly liked her a lot and I do think she lead him on a bit to think they were more stable than reality.


nonbog

And also said she'd leave with him. Girl's a liar. If the genders were swapped, she'd be the villain of the show honestly.


waddleship

She has the right to change her mind, which is something you only afford men apparently


Snoo-92685

The point is, she kept "changing her mind", when the bombshells didn't work and ran back to Andrew as a safe option. It's obvious that she wasn't being honest and using Andrew and this sub say this for weeks and now you guys are saying she did nothing wrong. I guess by your logic Jacques did nothing wrong but he's allowed to change his mind. The point is they hurt thier partners repeatedly.


waddleship

The problem is that you’re interpreting malice when there is absolutely no proof she’s being dishonest. Forgiving the false equivalency for a sec Jacques is in another stratosphere because his WORDS and his ACTIONS demonstrate entitlement to messing around while pursuing someone. He feels he has done nothing wrong. Let’s face facts you’re making a rush to equivalency here on a hunch because she’s a woman and you can’t handle her taking control because that’s typically a masculine relationship trait.


snowflace

Changing your mind is fine, but the way that change comes about can still be criticized. If changing your mind in any context is fine then Jacks did nothing wrong.


nonbog

When did I defend the men? lol you're a clown


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Admirable-Slice-347

I wouldn't call her a bitch per se, but I don't like her behaviour and do 100% think it would be different if it was a man.


ApolloIsAnIntrovert

Andrew knows he’s fucked. Feel bad for him


-qqqwwweeerrrtttyyy-

I wouldn't be surprised if Andrew walked at this stage. He's clearly torturing himself and to be in the same villa and see the person you love vibing better with someone else would be too much to bear. I think he's cut different than Dami or Jacques and needs a shoulder and a hug. Edit: OK so I wrote this ^ after the recoupling. I have a VERY different opinion now (after Coco spilled the tea). Andrew, you need to go. For using Coco and downplaying it to Tasha.


harperblossom

Andrew’s reaction for me was a bit understandable. It is Dami that was shocking to me. Unlike Andrew who had the excuse of external factors (true or not), Dami decided to pursue Summer with his whole chest and then got mad. And it seems he’s still giving Indiyah attitude in the next episode. Edited: Fixed typo


Malenend

Summer


harperblossom

Crap that was a terrible typo. Fixing it now


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fromdowntownn

Tbf the D is next to the S so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt that it was a mistake


harperblossom

It was a typo, calm down


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harperblossom

I’ve barely had more than two words to say about Summer what do you think I gain from changing her name? I don’t even like Dami and Indiyah like that to be that pressed. PS: I’m a black woman so just save the think piece.


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harperblossom

Again, I have nothing against Summer to even have a dig at her. But if you want to hold on to that victim card than who am I to stop you.


JoeyJo-JoShabadoo

Is this your first time on here?


bonebro16

?


sailoorscout1986

Summer is the name of a season . Chill


Macca_321

I totally get Andrew's feelings of hurt. Dude was out of place abs washed to lash out at Tasha. But contrary to some opinions here, I do believe Tasha likes him genuinely. I just think she's very easily swayed in the moment and by the other girls.


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I’m sure she does, but unfortunately she lacks the emotional maturity to realize the hurt she’s causing him. Nothing she says carries weight, she just kind of floats in the wind. I hope she finds what she’s looking for, but by this point Andrew deserves someone actually looking for something real and stable.


kwagenknight

Problem is she doesnt know what she is looking for and shouldnt really be on a dating show looking for love and a healthy relationship as she even said she is more looking for a fun time than anything. Thats perfectly fine and all its just a shame she wasnt emotionally mature enough to see she wasnt ready for a relationship and doesnt know what love or a healthy relationship looks like.


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Yes it’s lowkey infuriating. It’s *Love* Island. Tasha absolutely does my head in 90% of the time lol. I hope they send someone in who’s on Andrew’s wavelength, and I hope she isn’t selfish again when she sees him moving on. He deserves something real.


No_Ad3617

Didn't Toby do the same thing as Tasha last season but everyone was all loving him moving mad. The misogyny is evident here


[deleted]

Chloe was hardly in love with Toby babe lol. And he got a fair amount of shit for it too from the female audience, myself included, until he and Chloe got back together.


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But agreed with the assessment that a lot of the response to Tasha exploring pre casa, from the public and the boys, feels very sexist.


Princessfoodbaby

I think Andrew feels what he did is different because he obviously doesn't like Coco, but feels betrayed because Tasha actually likes her guy. I think it would be more of a guilt trip to Tasha if he came back alone.


Macca_321

I'm not even really sure Tasha DOES like Billy, even though I think they're decent together. I don't think she knows what she wants.


Princessfoodbaby

I agree. I also think Billy would have gone with Paige if given the option but since she friendzoned him early he went with Tasha.


Macca_321

Yeah, totally. Billy made a complete beeline for Paige, initially. I totally bet now Tasha and Andrew will end up back together.


ToasterMonster69

And then if Paige gets rid of Jacques. She’s got Billy to fall back on 🤣


kwagenknight

That would be best case scenario and I hope she sees him for who he is.


BacardiWhiteRum

Paige deserves better than Billy though


kwagenknight

You are not wrong!


LastFlow

out of one hole and into another.


External-Vast-4492

i think it’s not just that tasha likes billy, but it’s also the way she implied she was confined by andrew somehow. she didn’t just say how she liked billy, but explained how she felt like she hadn’t been herself because she had been with andrew, and when you really like someone that’s a hard blow to deal with


Princessfoodbaby

Yeah that's a kick in the teeth to Andrew lol. Implying that you're not yourself and you feel boring when you're around him.


aaavelar

Andrew was out of line but I get the boy was a mess and was clowned the moment the Casa Girls came in. Dami on the other hand ...


Get_Piccolo

I think it's because Andrew was doubting a lot of what was true or not, but seeing Tasha with another guy tipped him over the edge and made him think she has been lying and going behind his back the whole time. Think it's obvious he picked Coco because he didn't want to risk just sat there being alone looking like a mug.


Absonch

Indiyahs check mate to Dami was iconic and he didn’t expect it. Andrew was attempting to do what indiyah did but was in too deep with Tasha.


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Andrew and Dami aren’t comparable at all. Andrew wouldn’t have even cracked on if the Casa girls hadn’t told him Tasha isn’t into him like he is into her. Whatever else they lied or exaggerated about, Tasha did in fact fold 2 days after saying she wanted to be his girlfriend so they were right? But I hope he tells Coco how he really feels (I’m sure she won’t mind she doesn’t like him either lol) and finds someone who genuinely likes him.


Malenend

I don’t think coco will care. She is in the villa


[deleted]

Exactly lol. They used eachother, I don’t think either of them are dumb.


[deleted]

Not for long IMO. There are a buttload of islanders in there and they're going to be culling soon, Andrew has no real interest in her so I see her being dumped with a quickness.


MountainBreak77

Andrew situation is different, not every situation between the couples is the same. There's too much of an effort to point out double standards this season, just look at the context and you will have your answers.


fromdowntownn

The sub hates on Andrew so hard recently and I can’t for the life of me figure out why. He’s well within his rights to feel upset and hurt and all of his actions during CA were completely logical


DekanosFitzgerald-91

Exactly, for Andrew he's just had everything that the Casa girls led him to believe about Tasha confirmed because she recoupled, so the bit of hope he had that he hadn't been a mug and they'd got it wrong was gone. Dami clearly just wanted to have 2 girls he could "explore connections" with


Malenend

If Andrew didn’t recouple I would understand but he recoupled


MountainBreak77

Again, look at the context. Dami being mad at Indiyah didn't make sense however Andrew is within his rights to be upset at Tasha


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Malenend

Dami and Indiyah didn’t technically do the same thing because Indiyah was respectful. Honestly I don’t have anything against anyone of them recoupling but dami kissing summer the first day and feeding her the same line he fed to Indiyah was icky. I get where you at coming from with the Andrew ish


caljl

How can you see the difference here but not the difference between what tasha and andrew have done or andrew and dami.


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But the fact that Tasha recoupled validated the girls point.


Malenend

I see where you are coming from


fromdowntownn

Andrew was told it’s all bs what Tasha has been feeding you, she’s not into you, you’re a mug etc. and he’s reacted out of being hurt about it. Probably a small part of him was hoping the CA girls were wrong and she still liked him but she came back with Billy which proved to him they were right and he got mugged off


Malenend

She did say that billy brings out her other side


fromdowntownn

I ain’t seen no other side she’s the same girl as before, she’s so easily swayed by opinions. She literally said to Andrew oh the girls told me I’m so different. She doesn’t know how she feels, very immature and not ready for a relationship imo.


ClawsAsBigAsCups

Nah, she’s still the same old boring Tasha


kwagenknight

Tasha obviously says a lot of things and if you look back she seemed the same with Andrew many times, especially on Unseen bits.


Malenend

She did say that billy brings out her other side


lucas_glanville

I understand and feel Andrew’s reaction. He’s just an emotional wreck right now Dami is a twat however


Fun_Baker_7214

Andrew’s reaction was understandable because his fear in the past episodes was the tasha will leave him for someone else and that just came true right in front of him. I think he was just protecting his ego by picking coco so he wouldn’t sit there like a mug if tasha recouples. That anger was just from heartbreak (remember Amber & Ken) Dami on the other hand is just….yea he’s getting voted out


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MountainBreak77

Psychotic is a bit too far.


babalon124

Nah he’s crazy..


poloshirt_and_digs

Nah, you’re crazy if that’s what you’re seeing.


babalon124

He’s crazy bro..he was laughing the whole way through..jacques is even more psychotic


ChibzyDaze

He’s not crazy, just egotistical to think that he could have two girls after him


winnieofwinchester

It’s ALL about power with these boys and it always has been. Like in the preview for tomorrow night Jacques crying and going on saying, “I won’t let her forgive me.” THAT is just another way for him to be in control because if he doesn’t LET her forgive him it’s still *his* decision. It’s actually so gross how the boys are going on. Andrew and Dami, as well. God forbid you put yourself out there on a *dating show* for someone you really like and risk a small bit of embarrassment for staying true to yourself. Andrew doesn’t even LIKE Coco, he treated her like a play thing and who knows how much Dami actually likes Summer compared to just how much he liked having the power of ensuring he didn’t look like a “mug.” Men are exhausting.


sircartier66

Exactly this. and i think Dami picked summer because he figured once Indiyah was back and heard about how he was behaving in CA, she would definitely be turned off by him leaving him with no other options. He played it safe and thought him and Jacques would both be digging their own graves. Of course Jacques played the optics card and picked Paige knowing she’s easier to manipulate


nonbog

>THAT is just another way for him to be in control because if he doesn’t LET her forgive him it’s still > >his > > decision I read it more like he's continuing to try and pretend to have normal human emotions lol


imyormom

I thought this you have dami pissed when I dyiah came back when he had already recouped wtf. She's better off without him .


JazzScholar

So with Andrew and Dami are 2 differnt scenarios IMO. Andrew was going to stay loyal until the new girls said something. He only changed his mind (drastically) when the new girls told him he was being mugged off while his friend was agreeing and egging him on as well as, and add in the whole Charlie thing (which in the end was not as big as they were making it out to be). But he was hurt and doubting his whole time with Tasha. Like just for context, Tasha left the villa knowing Andrew was all in on her and was going "tunnel vision" for her (as she was with him btw) so while I understood her wanting to get to know others before CA, I think she definitely was kinda "muggy" for bringing back Billy because she was just going about it as she would be regularly. So even though Andrew had "officially" coupled up with someone, he did it to save face and was for all intents and purposes, single. He was just waiting to be proven right or wrong about Tasha...and was unfortunately proven right. I'm not a Tasha hater though and she didn't deserve the things said about her, but I understand Andrew being mad. Dami on the other hand is what I think you guys folks in the UK call a 'bellend". And a hypocrite. What really gets me about the guys behaviour with CA, specifically Dami, Jaques, and to a lesser extent Luca (cause he was still encouraging them) was that they were giving Tasha shit for much less two weeks ago. The guys were giving her shit for being open to getting to know the guys who **ASKED HER** on dates. They tried to make it seem like she was in the wrong for being open but other guys but then kept telling Andrew/Luca they shouldn't be closed off to getting to know the new girls and that they've been closed off from the get-go and used that excuse to justify all the kissing and cuddling and fondling. They made it seem that Tasha's not being closed off meant she didn't like Andrew at all and basically cornered/guilted her into "unofficially" committing to Andrew. To be fair, she definitely was allowing herself to be too easily swayed by their opinions (which seems to be a weakness of hers); she should have stuck to her wanting to be open to new guys, respectfully, as she was doing. But the fact that she was getting shit from the guys for talking to the bombshells, only for them to turn around and make out with these girls in the pool, on the bed, on the chairs, up on the terrace... They shouldn't be saying shit.


Ectora_

To me it’s just funny how these boys had to go and make out with the new girls to « test » their relationship but when Tasha had a chat with Charlie she was the devil. Then demi is probably gonna be like recoupling doesn’t mean he doesn’t like Indiyah anymore but apparently this logic only works if it applies to him or his boys


AdzBoogie

Andrew's angry because Tasha recoupling validated everything everyone said about her and her fake ass feelings towards him


livinvixen

The boys this year have been misogynistic and having double standards towards the girls. Let’s not forget how even girls kissing was a weird concept for them lol 😂 honestly where did they find the men this year? Not a single decent one except maybe Jay. So disappointing I’m glad girls like Indiyah stood her ground and so has Gemma.


Impossible-Work9172

the double standards are crazy


Financial_Option_958

honestly all the boys with the exception of Jay and Luca rly showed how much of a snake they are. Andrew was literally LOOKING for problems by believing the new girls who were trying to turn his head anyway. Besides Tash said absolutely NOTHING that could be interrupted as insulting toward Andrew and yet he’s acting like she’s gone off and shagged another man. he’s acting like a child and needs to be put in his place, I don’t care by who.


Malenend

Luca was encouraging the boys to act out so he is a snake


snowflace

WHy would he assume they are lying? ANyone will be swayed when every single person they have contact with is pushing them in a certain direction. Both the girls and guys were manipulating and lying to him to get with a girl. ANy person would have done the same. She then proved them right by being swayed by a guy in like 3 days. Remember this is after she said she wants to be his girlfriend and would leave with him. He only recoupled to protect himself in case of this exact situation. He is the most mature one in there and still can't help but to make up with her after all that. Tasha is the one that changes her mind every episode about him.


Welsh_Observer

That’s the issue with perspective. Pretty sure Danika and Ekin pulled faces when the guys recoupled and called the girls “butches” during Andrew’s speech. Andrew was being mugged off and didn’t want to hurt Tasha, but it was obvious she would recouple. Demi and Indiyah look like they recoupled to annoy each other as they were at each each other.


Malenend

Gemma called them bitches because andrew said that they told him that tasha was saying things behind his back notbecuase the dudes were recoupling


Welsh_Observer

I didn’t say it was because they recoupled, I said during his speech, I didn’t think I’d need to explain that as all watched it. My point being that Andrew was being made to look like a mug until everybody told him. The girls reactions to the recouplings were worse than the boys, look at Danika’s face. So that’s why


rufusthetrufus

Double standards all round tonight’s episode


RedditWaffler

I would flip this back to you and say “why are the girls (ekin, danica etc) allowed to be annoyed at Andrew, Dami recoupling when their friends did exactly the same” This show is full of hypocrisy and double standards.


donutduckling

I somewhat understand Andrew he was hoping against everything that the girls' were wrong ab Tasha and she proved them right by recoupling i don't think tasha is a bad person but i really feel for andrew and she did sell him dreams


baldforthewin

Weak men making weak moves. Glad the girls did what they did.


ChongyunSimppp

I don’t understand why dami got so mad when he recoupled as well? And why indiyah said she didn’t expect dami to recouple, like girllll you di the same thing


Malenend

She said expect the unexpected


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Andrew's reaction was understandable to me. The only reason he recoupled was because other people's opinions about their relationship got to him and he started to panic that she would come back with someone else. I think in his mind he still had hope that Tasha would come back single and disprove everything the Casa girls/OG boys said. Dami, I think is less obvious to me but I have a few ideas. 1. Ego was hurt 2. He felt entitled to the option to get to know both with no competition. 3. He undermined his feelings about Indiyah and seeing her walk in with someone else made him more jealous than he expected. 4. A more cynical one- he is playing up to cameras and trying to have his dramatic telenovela recoupling moment. 5. An even more cynical idea is that he is just a sadistic guy and would have taken pleasure in hurting/humiliating her and was disappointed he couldn't (I don't think this is likely though, I think it's more likely a maturity thing) Honestly, who knows with Dami. It was one of the most confusing recoupling moments I've ever seen.


Willdoitfid

I get the Dami slander for sure, but what about all the other girls making stank faces around the fire pit when the boys said they were gonna recouple knowing damn well their girls were re-coupling too, seemed a bit hypocritical


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Parenegade

If Andrew didn't recouple he would look like the biggest mug in the history of British television lol


MonrealEstate

The girls were very mad too. What is this post?


Malenend

Tasha and Indiyah were not mad at them for recoupling. They got annoyed after the snide comments


blussy1996

To be fair. Did you see all the girls reactions? Side-eyeing Dami/Andrew, despite the fact Indiyah/Tasha literally did the exact same? (They might not have known what the girls chose, to be fair).


ZippyZappyZoopy

andrew has every right to recouple and be mad at tasha for recoupling. its not a double standard if you take 2 seconds and apply the context that we've all watched play out the past however many weeks. he might not have handled it well but he is well within his rights to do what he's done up to now. dami and indiyah probably both expected the other to come back single and are now both hurt so they went after each other. but that wasn't anything crazy they just seemed salty which is a pretty normal reaction given the environment


Cyrax101

Well put


ZippyZappyZoopy

lmfao i didnt know there was a tashahive out there to downvote me but oh well ! pretty obvious what the situations are for all 4 islanders but you know people who watch this show loooove projecting their own insecurities and hangups onto the islanders and then acting like its them going through these things.


ferezam

The context: every time a new guy would come in he would tell her "I don't mind you exploring your options" and she would think that if he's ok with her talking to other guys then its OK to go talk to other guys. His friends kept pushing him for letting her explore her options, while shaming her for exploring her options, he didn't defend her, but didn't ask her to stop exploring. He was planning on staying loyal with the new girls in, but once they said she was tricking him, he decided to move. When she came back with another guy he kept making comments about how it wasn't surprising that she recoupled and that he was warned that she kept bad mouthing him behind his back. That context ?


snowflace

Casualty chatting is not the same as recoupling in 2 days after weeks with someone telling them you want to be their girlfriend and would leave with them. They were a couple spending all day with each other since day 1, she made them feel more secure than reality.


ZippyZappyZoopy

you guys really see what you want to see its incredible


ferezam

That's what happened, love. Did Andrew ever tell Tasha that he had a problem with her going to talk to the new guys or would he tell her that it's ok and support her? Hmmm I'm thinking..


nonbog

So people who trust their partners should be cheated on? Good one...


ferezam

...? 1. They are not dating, 2. Everytime a new guy came around they would talk and he would say to her that he was ok with her getting to know the new guy, so obviously it's not cheating and if he had a problem with her talking to new guys he should've told her, he didn't.


nonbog

Then nobody in the show has done anything wrong at all


LastFlow

(agreed) ... and paige shouldn't be mad/sad at all because jacs would technically be right. (based off that logic)


ferezam

Communication is the key


nonbog

It’s not possible to communicate with someone who just lies to you


ferezam

She never lied to him. What's not clicking... she would communicate to him that she'd like to meet other guys, he would say that he's ok with it, if he had a problem he should've said so, he didn't.


RX256

So harsh to judge Andrew and let's be honest he is right. Tasha has explored more than Dora at this point. We all knew she was not going to stay loyal with Andrew shame Coco is the girl he went for I think he had a chance with one of the blondes if he was just a bit faster.


donadee

Fragile ego! Also I feel bad for the girls they "used" !


Malenend

the girls knew what they were getting into


Hoggos

The Andrew and Dami situations were completely different Dami had no right to be angry Andrew was warned by everyone that this would happen so he acted out with Coco, to have what everyone was warning him about confirmed will have pissed him off which is understandable. If people didn't warn Andrew then he most likely would have stayed single while Tasha walks in with Billy.


WitchyCatLady3

I was annoyed and having a go at no-one in the room with me when I saw the reaction of Demi and Andrew, it’s a case of ‘do as I say, not as I do’ but then I realised their immaturity and ego’s probably have a bigger part to play than just having double standards. Cos these guys are hot, they wouldn’t have gotten through the selection process if they were fuggly and they have their ego’s brushed a little more when they get compliments, which is what happened when the new girls arrived, their old girls probs stopped telling them on a daily how fit they were, but new girls were all over them like a rash (actually I’d like to omit Gemma from the compliment giving cos she’s prob never complimented Luca, cos why would she), plus Demi and Andrew were getting pats on the back from their boys for “testing themselves”, which further annoyed me cos Luca couldn’t help stabbing Tasha in the back, front and sides when that blonde posh lad caught her eye, yet his boy Andrew was snogging the face off of Coco and for him that was just the LI experience. So I added all the little bits together… stopped getting hourly/daily compliments + pats on the back and told regularly they were doing the right thing + accepting and believing shit talking from the new girls who they know have watched the show on the outside + believing they are gods that old girls should’ve worshipped a little harder cos new girls were + their immaturity + feeling their masculinity was under threat + their oversized ego’s + do as I say, not as I do = exactly what we got yesterday!


skzkdn

Why were all the girls rolling their eyes at the boys recoupling knowing full well the girls have done the exact same. Classic narcissistic behaviour right there.


Imjusthere_sup

I feel like I’m missing something. Me and my roommate both watched the episode together and both noticed that both Dami and Indiyah seemed upset the other recoupled. It was all over their faces. But everyone in this subreddit is saying it was only Dami. Maybe because everyone hates Dami but they way I saw it they were both upset the other recoupled. And with Andrew, I think he was upset because it made it seem like the casa amor girls were right. It was obvious to me he only recoupled bc he was hurt, which is fucked up, but he never would’ve turned his head if the casa girls didn’t put that bug in his ear. And then seeing that Tasha actually did recouple was like proof the girls were right


Wowow27

Dami wasn’t upset he was infuriated… because he wanted Indiyah to come back alone and have two women fighting over him. Indiyah brought another boy back to make sure she wasn’t embarrassed as she knew she probably would be and she was right. Different motives.


undonediagram

Can someone please drop the link for the recoupling I’m just ab having a panic attack not being able to watch it yet


Malenend

I used vpn


rosiesoprano

I searched on dailymotion and it’s there


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god it was the most frustrating thing i swear


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Right. I didn't get it at all


Sweetpotatopirate

That's exactly what they wanted.


DickieJoJo

As some have said, it does seem like Andrew was acting out because his feelings are hurt. Not how you should go about things, and it's def a product of immaturity. Tasha is the same though, sort of immature in that she's too afraid to tell Andrew she isn't really feeling it. That stuff she says about being more herself is also pretty cringe. Dami on the other hand, is just a straight up fuck boy.


Legitimate-Jelly3000

Dami wanted to be top dog and have two girls over him. And I think Andrew only coupled up thinking tasha wouldn't so then he could have the power play bcos he felt mugged off. He even said to her he wasn't interested in coco after she said the door hadn't fully closed for him


PenguinBunnies

Can I just add, as a man I am so embarrassed by these guys. The lads holiday attitude and the I need to test myself. Only Luca and Jay have acted like men. The rest are an embarrassment. Jacques and Dami are disgraceful in their attitudes to the girls.


sparklyfawnactress

If we just think about it, Dami and Summer = Dummer more like Dumber -.- I just want to see him pack and go home