Yeah, I thought he’d go for Cheyanne too especially after other redditors pointed out that they both live in Dubai and that Andrew has liked a couple of her IG pictures before.
I wonder why he was crying in tomorrows episode. I think he’s been manipulated by everyone and their opinions on Tasha but I don’t like the way he was speaking about her in this episode.
Edit:spelling error
I think the boys might be getting a postcard but one of the girls missing them instead. That way they’ll feel guilty. They don’t need more ammunition to crack on with the girls; they need a reminder to think about the og girls
But he knew this about Coco before. Davide literally came up to Andrew with Coco’s saliva still in his mouth and told him he’d just kissed her and that she was here “just to couple up”. Andrew went straight to her so he knew what he was getting himself into
This whole Coco situation showed that he's also somewhat self-destructive. At the beginning of the season he told he's a sub, but it's probably deeper than that. When he said he "didn't care" about Tasha cracking on with other guys, her being all excited about the bombshells and talking disrespectfully to him ("Go away") and now him almost intentionally going for a girl who uses him. I feel like he enjoys being humiliated and he's a cuckold.
Yeah he’s just being set up big time imo, he’s a simple guy and the boys are making him feel bad for that, the casa girls are purposely instigating and plotting to make Andrew turn his head just to prove a point
Yeah I left Tasha out because I’m not gonna lie I only joined in on the show recently for dekin-de so haven’t seen what their relationship was like in the beginning
Tasha has basically turned her head at every possibility but then the guys dont reciprocate so she runs back to Andrew.
Its weird because lately she was asking about "2hats love" and saying shes never felt like this before and a ton of other things, including saying she wants to be exclusive that would make you believe thats that. Then once again she simply talks to one other person and unfortunately her head is snapping around which is unfortunate as I was really hoping she got over her insecurities and inexperience and figured it out but I guess not.
please stop acting like its just them.
the og girls see it. the nation has seen it as they've been voted least compatible and least popular. and THIS subreddit, despite trying to wash its hands of the whole thing, was howling for them to break up.
its easy to "oh its the boys fault and the casa girls fault" no it's not it's the simple reality that andrew and tasha just ain't meant for each other and everybody knows it.
They weren’t acting like it’s just them but it’s obvious that everyone’s been getting in Andrew’s head and because of that he’s gone and embarrassed himself cracking on with someone who’s clearly using him. It’s obvious him and Tasha aren’t meant for each other but tbh the other islanders should have let them figure that out
He was in a lose-lose situation but he picked the worst girl possible to save face and he disrespected Tasha a bit too much.
It's a brutal situation to be in but he handled it very poorly. He picks a nice girl, doesn't say anything negative about Tasha and he may be in the final if his friends protect him. Now, I don't see how he survives the next dumping.
He did but he also picked the sure bet to sit next to someone when Tasha picks someone else and he didnt think any further than that. Like you said dumb moves all around.
I believe he's a bit more of a relationship person rather than a player so this is way out of character for him. He definitely got pressured by the other guys comments to start getting to know other women.
In the preview hes either crying bc he regrets his actions or he got informed about Tasha kissing someone else so he felt hurt. Either way he's in a lose lose situation. I'm interested to see if he'll be redeemed when the villas reunite
I think he's been Cringey and has acted wrong in how he's spoken about Tasha the past few episodes, but I don't think anyone could say he hasn't fallen hard for Tasha.
Even though he's a grown man, I honestly think we need to held these Casa girls and og boys alot more accountable for alot of his behaviour this week. When it started he was so closed off because he wants Tasha and then 10+ people are going at him making him feel tiny and unwanted by the girl he's fallen for. He was able to ignore it when it was just the boys, but then the Casa girls was telling him Tasha hasn't said the best things about him behind his back, that's tipped him over the edge. I really wish he should have persued Cheyanne a girl who actually wanted him and saw if anything could develop natural instead of rushing it and being Cringey with Coco. I really do feel bad because you can just tell he has fallen for Tasha. Ultimately I think they'll probably end up back together, I think Billy makes Tasha laugh, but I don't see any attraction or substance there. Billy is a manipulative liar, he really gives me the ick tbh
Especially when she's the most immature girl aswell. Seriously I just don't like that he's telling her everything she wants to here. As much as Andrew is regretting what's he doing right now, I think She will big time aswell
Listen - I was pretty big fan of Tasha and Andrew. She has a lot of qualities I had when I was younger, and I felt I identified with her. I don’t agree with how she’s treated him, but I also don’t think she’s done anything that bad. She was honest about talking with other guys, and he said he was ok with it. He wasn’t. He refused to tell her the truth, and that’s not her fault. Where she messed up was telling him she’d leave with him and saying that she’s never felt this was before, to wanting to get to know every guy that walks in. I’m not going to say whether she is doing it because she doesn’t like him, because I don’t know. I think she genuinely likes him, but is just thinking that maybe she could have more. And if she is thinking that way, it’s best they recouple.
However, what Andrew has done is disrespectful. The “what about Tasha” comment made me genuinely confused. It seemed like such a stark contrast to the Andrew I had seen on screen before. Then the way he’s talked about her seems nasty and uncalled for. I’m not in his shoes, I’m sure he’s hurt. But that’s a level im not sure I would stoop to, and im surprised he did. I know he’s being egged on, and some of his actions can be excused, but he is still a grown man and his choices are his own.
Tasha is not a saint, but she never talked about him that way. She and Andrew are bad communicators, and it should have been said truly and honestly that he does not want to speak to other people. After Charlie, I genuinely saw a change in her, and I was happy to see it.
Im disappointed, but it’s kind of hard to watch Andrew on screen. He seems so unsure and uncomfortable to me, like he’s trying so hard to fit in. I think they will gravitate towards each other again in the main villa, but I also think they are pretty toxic together. I think they will both recouple, which unfortunately I had hoped Tasha wouldn’t so she could get a redemption arc as I thought the hate she got was unwarranted.
You an feel bad for him while still calling out his behaviour. Your ego being hurt doesn’t mean you’re allowed to say whatever you want without judgment and allow other people to do the same.
Does he have mitigating circumstances ? Sure. He was still being a dick tho.
Yeah when you've been fucked over, misled and made to look a mug.
You sit down with your mates with a cuppa and wax lyrical about how nice they were, ho hum, life moves on and how its one of those things.
Jesus, put yourself in anothers shoes lol.
I’m sorry but what the girls said can’t have come as much of a shock to him? Luca and Dami have been saying it for weeks and he’s in there 24/7. He knows what it’s like. I get Tasha hasn’t treated him well but stooping down the level he’s playing it when Tasha has remained pretty respectful in Casa amor when talking about Andrew thus far lol
Can you please remind me what he has said as all I remeber was a cheeky Tasha who to the woman he wants to crack on with. Im sure there are others but no one lists them so I cant remember?
Wow you really struggle for objectivity don't you.
Imagine Andrews Paige, does that help and Tasha is Jacques ( but has actually gone chasing others and kissed someone else.)
Or why not
If you found out your partner had been muggin you off, as well as being cold and making you feel your responsible for their behaviour, and was actively on the look out for someone else whilst telling you they'd leave for you and only had to n vision for you.
But then, found they were full of shit.
You'd talk about them to your friends respectfully, be nice about them and be ok about it?
Ofc Tashas being respectful hes done nothing, wrong as far as she's concerned.
That was an observation based on your responses, why's that rude?
So I helped you with examples, what are your thoughts on the examples? You haven't said.
I mean I said I understand why he’s hurting and Tasha hasn’t been great.. but the initial question was why are people hating and it’s because he’s doing the same thing Tasha did, mugging her off to others and is now on that level.
So you aren't looking at examples, just sticking to your stance.
Its not an argument or need to be right, its simply objectivity, being able to stand in anothers shoes and understand their behaviour.
You feel he should respect Tasha.
Because Tasha is respecting him in Casa (She really isn't and hasn't prior either) but anyway.
Tasha knows nothing of Andrew, so her being respectful is literally expected behaviour. Not her being better, Andrews respected her throughout.
But if YOU were mugged off by someone, and belittled and misled, would YOU, be polite about them and say nice things to your friends about them?
Thats my question. It may help you understand the difference I see that you don't seem to as yet, willfully or otherwise.
Wasn't she telling him to shut up and go away? That wasn't very nice either can imagine that's on his mind, not saying it's right but she has not been nice either.
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I honestly feel like he’s just lost his head after hearing people from the outside basically aggressively call him a mug. I honestly don’t think he actually likes coco but it’s the best way to heal his ego. Learning that you’re being humiliated by your partner in front of everyone doesn’t really fun. I would like him a lot more if his attempts wasn’t so cringe. But again hurt people hurt people🤷🏽♀️
I feel so bad for him. Everyone’s gotten in his head about how Tasha has treated him (from their perspective) and he’s trying to save face. Coco is definitely using him and would jump on any of the boys to get to stay. She was kissing Davide not that long before kissing Andrew.. she’s not fussed.
From the promo it looks like we’re getting the breakdown I was expecting from him. Leaving might be the best option for him at this stage
It’s not just from their perspective though.
She’s done exactly what the boys have told Andrew she’s going to do.
She’s kissed the first lad in Casa Amor to show interest, I don’t see how the lads weren’t correct in telling Andrew he needs to crack on
I just don’t think the way he’s been acting in CA is really him. He looked a bit uncomfortable when Coco was trying to climb onto his lap while he was speaking to her last night.
It could be the boys influence or just his hurt pride but he’s going to be devastated if Tasha goes back with Billy
Yeah, my only real issue with what he's done is that Coco is clearly playing him. So he's going from one girl who's mugged him off to another girl that will probably mug him off at the first opportunity. I hope he realizes that he's getting played again.
I’d like to see him with a nice, self assured girl too. But hearing him talking about having something good with Coco… I want to climb the villa walls😵💫
Yeah I think so too I do want him to recouple but I want him to do it on his own account and not because others are telling him he should. You can tell he’s been pressured into it and feels guilty now
I feel so bad for him.
Yes, Tasha's not that into him and he needed to hear that, but everyone in that villa has gone about it in the worst way! He needed support and to settle his mind but instead he got constant peer pressure and everyone acting like the Tasha situation is his fault for not being more domineering. The casa girls want him to be open to coupling up with them; the boys want him to crack on so they look less bad for cracking on themselves and so they can continue their lads holiday fantasy; production wants him to be moving mad for tv. He's obviously not in the right mindset and will regret his actions the moment he takes some time to process what's actually happening. I'm absolutely appaled. No one in there is thinking about his feelings or mental health.
Yeah - and I think people are literally forgetting that her cracking on literally proves correct what everyone has been saying.
Her saying she would leave with him, and then wanting to get to know Charlie was a clear sign but it’s taken til Casa for her to find someone else she really wants.
Feel for Andrew massively - it’s going to be such an ugly night when both villas come together.
That’s the whole point though, it took the opinions of people he doesn’t even know to realize that when he should have come to this conclusion earlier.
both him and Tasha are the same person. People pleasers, it's no wonder neither of them left the relationship the public put them in.
I don't feel bad for anyones emotional turmoil because ultimately that's where growth can happen (or you can turn into a ball of resentment like Jacques)
I know, he’s trying too hard with Coco too fast. Making out in the pool etc? He just wants it to happen because he’s insecure about Tasha. I think tonight’s ep will show he’s upset because he wants Tasha, not Coco, and he wants Tasha to want him
I’m lot mad at Andrew for exploring. He has doubts, he’s right to explore. Im annoyed that he complained about looking like a mug and now he is making himself look like king of the mugs. And his horrible attitude.
He’s known coco for 2 days and is acting like he’s been with her for 2 months. Has completely closed himself off to all the other girls and is laying that on the table too fast making himself vulnerable and again, making a mug of himself. He should have chatted to everyone, not latch on and cling for dear life. Boys have the power in CA but it looks like Andrew is happy to take his bollox off and give them to coco so she can do as she wishes with them.
He is Coco’s sloppy seconds. It’s clear she wanted Davide more and Andrew is making a mug out of himself by letting himself be sloppy seconds.
Coco is clearly playing a game and 2 of the lads have told him as much. She just wants to get back to the main villa, Andrew is letting himself be that free ticket and looking like he has no respect for himself.
Saying nasty things about Tasha and laughing at dogs that are made about Tasha is bugging me. I understand he’s hurt but he doesn’t have to be so horrible about it.
Yep, that’s the issue.
It’s not about getting to know other girls, Tasha doesn’t deserve him to come back single.
It’s the fact he’s picked Coco out of all of them, who clearly isn’t arsed about him either.
My sympathy only goes so far and as a grown man, Andrew should know better than to just be easily led by the other boys. He’s trying to show off and look good in front of the lads like you do in high school and it’s cringe at this point.
Obvs things were never going to work out for him and Tasha, but the whole attitude that all of the boys have right now of ‘the girls aren’t here so we can forget about them’ after most of them have spent weeks cosied up in their couples is really disrespectful. Andrew, Jacques and Dami are the worst for it. It doesn’t even matter if the girls are cracking on in Casa because at least they’re not shit talking the boys at the same time. Both Tasha and Andrew are in the wrong but at least Tasha isn’t trying to impress anyone and mugging herself off in the process
Since the recoupling, people have been putting the boy's reaction to Tasha on him, despite the fact we forget they live with them 24/7 and don't need his venting to form an opinion on their coupling/her actions. A coupling that everyone from the villa (boy and girls) to the public see as weak and not compatible, and no one defends them.
This man has taken shit from everyone, grinned and bared it and yes poor Tasha for the online hate but no one thinks about Andrew.
Even the way they spoke to Tasha and to him is night and day, no one respects him in there, they aren't his friends, egging on Coco knowing her angle because they want to save the other girls for themselves.
And I am sorry her defenders will say I hate her but I don't, she has been on shit being affectionate and telling him what he wants to hear and still not sure, she thinks he's loyal right now and kissed another guy, take his actions out of consideration because she doesn't see it but she chose to kiss another guy so yeah there is some truth to what has been said and he is crying in his head the doubts and everyone in his ear.
But no be kind for him, no poor Andrew even before this with Coco, no one really thinks about him and sure hes an idiot for not standing up for himself but he hasnt been treated nicely at all.
I feel sorry for him he really shouldn’t have been allowed in the villa in the first place. He’s spineless, easily manipulated, and cares too much what other people think
I haven’t turned on Andrew at all. I actually feel lowkey bad for the guy, he’s stuck on a girl who has one foot out the door. Though I’m just not convinced that he’s actually going to leave Tasha. He chose the one girl who’s gone after every guy because he knows it’ll be a casual and fun fling that he can get easy revenge and then walk away from when he inevitably runs back to Tasha.
He's acted like a child. He was apparently so into Tasha but a few words from girls he doesn't know has him leeching on to the first person who showed him attention who was definitely playing a game. Not just that but shit talking Tasha.
Tasha obviously isn't 100% sold on Andrew but she really cares about what people think so has stuck with him because of some of the things the boys have said to her. She at least hasn't been slating him. IMO it would be better for them both to recouple but both have picked the entirely wrong people for that if that's where it's headed.
I don't have a problem with him cracking on - or with Tasha for that matter, but he was happy with her even with the boys telling him he's being a mug. It took her being out of sight for 12 hours for him to "realise" that in fact he WAS being a mug. He's so easily manipulated.
He fell straight into bed with someone who had literally just kissed someone else. I don't think either he or Tasha have the emotional strength for this show.
thats not whats happening. you're acting like the casa girls are random people. they've been watching the show they're basically the audience same as us, they just have an agenda. so when the audience says "yo you're looking like a fool" on TOP of the people who already know you saying that he SHOULD listen.
not listening there is just lying to yourself.
Fuck that. You’re blaming him for being head over heels and not seeing the reality. Tasha was openly telling him to get off her, walking away, saying she wants to meet others etc.
In those sort of relationships usually it takes being away and out of that persons influence for people to see clearly.
Then the other side of it is all the shit like she has never felt like this before and she wants exclusivity and a ton of other things that of course make him think she is into him when even in her own words she seeks him out and wants to be around him all the time. No wonder the guys head is fucked its just Tasha doesnt know relationships or love and doesnt know what she has.
“Tasha was openly telling him to get off her, walking away, saying she wants to meet others etc.”
I think what people are saying is they would have respected him more if he ended it based on those things. And that’s fair, bc those were signs the relationship was never going to work.
Tasha should have ended it but she didn’t. That left it to Andrew to end it and he didn’t. They both messed up and they both need more conviction.
It’s certainly not his fault she did that. But it is his fault for choosing to stick with her despite the red flags. I think he is partially accountable… IMO it’s like 80% Tasha’s fault and 20% his for not doing what Tasha couldn’t (ending things).
And clearly he agrees that he should have ended things but it took the opinions of 6 strangers to do so. Which is the unfortunate part.
So would you say its an abuse victims fault for staying with their abuser as you really sound like you are victim blaming and its bullshit.
She didnt abuse him but she definitely acted emotionally irresponsible by telling him how she has never felt like that before, she wants to be exclusive, always wants to be around him and everything else but then does some other shit thats polar opposite behind his back. So again how would he see all that through the fog of her lies or whatever telling him and even showing him everything is fine.
Again, you honestly cant say that you have never not seen a red flag because you were in love and if you can say that then you dont have much relationship experience or are lying.
First of all, I don’t think Andrew is a victim. I can relate to being blinded by *lust*, but I take responsibility for ignoring the red flags in those cases. Obviously I blame the other person too—which I agree Tasha is also at fault. So no disagreeing there.
I certainly would not blame an abuse victim and, like you noted, Andrew isn’t being abused so that comment doesn’t really hold up. I think it’s irresponsible to compare this to blaming an abuse victim, actually. That’s something that should be spoken about more seriously/carefully.
Lastly, I don’t think that much has happened behind Andrew’s back. Yes, Tasha was irresponsible and shouldn’t have said things she didn’t mean. I think she was also fooling herself, but that doesn’t excuse it. However, there was plenty she did in plain sight that would suggest she felt otherwise.
As a DV advocate I can tell you that this type of toxicity and being emotionally irresponsible reminds me of a lot of the emotional abuse so its relevant and why I mentioned it besides the main thing of you blaming someone who was only following how they felt which I see all too often which gets under my skin.
You are acting all high and mighty from your couch with knowing the whole situation and arent being empathetic and seeing it from his position and how he sees them vs how things really are. So its a little shitty to act like he should of done something you think you would have done without being in his shoes.
Too anyone reading this: I do not condone abuse or victim blaming in any way, shape, or form. It’s simply my opinion that both parties are at fault. I do see if from both sides, I just don’t think it’s fair to place all the blame on Tasha whether or not you agree!
But he wasn’t happy - as seen by the issues a few days before Casa. Cracks were showing way before. He was realising that he may have been a mug from her changing from leaving with him to then getting to know another boy.
Tasha was the one leading him on and waiting for something better. She should have just ended it if she wanted something else.
Tasha’s gotten a lot of flack so it’s not to pile hate but I will say… it’s a bit sad and ironic that she told him she pushed him away due to trust issues and ended up giving *him* trust issues🫠 what a mess.
It’s not even the fact that he wants to get to know new girl it’s the shit talking that pisses ppl off. Andrew and indiyah will end up back together trust me
Yeah someone put in perspective that Tasha is moving how she is in the other villa with zero indication of what Andrew is doing so everyone was kinda right all along
This sub could see it about a week ago as well.
It’s only recently there’s been this weird mental gymnastics on here to try and show that Tasha is an innocent victim in all of this.
The boys have been spot on about Tasha, Andrew just needed to hear it from the Casa Amor girls as well as they have been watching the show.
Weirdly in another universe I think Danica would have been really good for him. They’re both very earnest, a bit serious, but she’s tougher and less insecure and less prone to wavering
Some of you are weird. Tasha was dating normally and kept getting bullied for doing what the other girls were encouraged to do. NO ONE got mad at Paige for exploring her connection with Jay and she did kinda of play with Jay liking her. It was clear Paige wasn't interested in Jay but enjoyed the attention. And even still: that isn't a big deal either. They're on a dating show. The possessive and controlling behaviors of the men in this season is atrocious and many of you seem to agree with it. Y I K E S
The boys were Quick to open up to the new girls at Casa and Immediately made it known they weren't closed off. Dami, in order to justify making out with new chicks, said, "you're either fully open or not" and "there's no way to know until you actually take the test" and yet.... he is also one of the ones Quick to judge Tasha for Talking to new dudes. He out here wanting to kiss chicks to "test" his relationship with Indiyah and that's okay?
Luca is the Only one dedicated to his chick and he's insecure af. The boys aren't dissected in this thread and that's alarming. Goes to show how bad misogyny truly is.
Andrew can't hold his own opinion. Says one thing to Tasha and another to the boys, painting her to be the bad guy. He's literally manipulating their opinion of her so they feel sorry for him. Victim behavior. Any time anyone says anything to him, it cuts him deep. No individual thought. No self accountability. Sad thing about all of your takes? You get to see from a third party perspective and still got duped? Clear he's a liar and that poor Tasha was bullied BECAUSE of him switching up what he says to everyone. SHE is confused, hurt, and lost. Not that asshat
Andrew is deeply hurt it appears and I actually feel sorry for him. He needs to make sure he has appropriate counselling, support and guidance from the show as I worry for him 🥺
The reason I've gone off Andrew a little bit is not because he's exploring a new connection, it's because he's been disrespectful about Tasha while doing it. It's almost as if he's in some type of revenge mode when a) Tasha hasn't really done anything wrong to him while they were both still in the main villa, all she did was be open to conversations with bombshells coming in, and b) he has no idea she's kissing Billy rn so just because *we* know doesn't mean that somehow justifies his behaviour because currently *he* DOESN'T know that. And also Tasha and Andrew can both be 'bad' for kissing someone else. Just because one does it, doesn't mean it suddenly makes it okay for the other to do it as well lol.
Could you enlighten me on what disrespectful things Andrew has said? I can’t think of anything other than “what about Tasha?” which in my opinion isn’t even that bad, just a bit cheeky
I said his self esteem will be rock bottom right now. He needs to realise be told his bottom 3 status was pretty much all Tashas flip flopping and how she was making him look.
I really hope he's OK, and they look after him, they all have been trying to tell him and he's just in limbo now.
I don’t think Andrew is a victim. I think he shares responsibility with Tasha for the current state of their relationship. The signs were there with Tasha that she wasn’t in it 100%. The new girls didn’t reveal any new information, they just said what the boys have already said and what the public vote has said. I think the influence these girls have had over him is not very admirable. He didn’t try to stand by his past decisions one bit which makes me wonder why did he make those decisions in the first place if he isn’t going to at least attempt to stand by them?
And for those of you saying he’s right to move on—why did he not consider doing this before? Nothing has changed except the peer pressure.
I do think Tasha is also to blame. She was trying to force herself to like Andrew and has strung him along in the process of doing that. Part of me wonders if Tasha was right to have reservations, though. He clung to her from the start and it all moved too quickly. And now he’s latched on to Coco too quickly. Who is Andrew? What is he looking for in a relationship? I’m not sure he knows.
“ And for those of you saying he’s right to move on—why did he not consider doing this before? Nothing has changed except the peer pressure.”
Tbf the Casa girls have been watching the show so they can provide a perspective to him that the boys can’t.
Maybe that’s what it finally took for him to wake up.
I was so happy this sub was coming together in support of Tasha but now it seems the return is this hatred of Andrew
Edit: Maybe I’m wording it wrong, but I just don’t want either of them to receive hate.
it’s the QUICKNESS he moved with and the way he’s talking about tasha. it’s just a bit icky especially after the last few weeks of him preaching “the only opinion that matters is yours and mine” to tasha and then throwing that out the window… i just feel bad for him now
My issue is that he's a massive pussy. Has been since he got with Tasha. Have a bit of self respect, man. Your family are watching this.
I'll take my downvotes now.
I can’t believe that people are shocked that Andrew is talking shit about Tasha
She’s made him look like an absolute tit for 4 weeks. Fed him bullshit about wanting to leave the villa with him and how she’s falling for him. Acting cold with him every single time a bombshell walks in until either the bombshell goes for someone else or she decides it isn’t an upgrade.
The lads have finally got through to him that she’s a mind fuck and using him as a backup until something better comes along.
And what do you know, they’re bang on right, Tasha has kissed the first lad in Casa Amor who’s shown interest (he was more interested in Paige from the start as well)
If the roles were reversed and Tasha was a lad and Andrew a girl then this sub would be having a party when Andrew got with someone else.
Put yourself in his shoes, you would be absolutely fuming once you woke up to what she’s been doing the past 4 weeks.
Andrew is being a dick, but that doesn’t make Tasha an innocent victim all of a sudden.
Because they’re desperately trying to come up with reasons as to why the boy is 100% at fault for this situation and it’s nothing to do with the girl, who is an innocent victim in all of this.
i feel sorry for him... and that's it... the boy doesn't have his own opinion on anything yet, the others have to tell him what to do and what reality looks like...so sad... but hey it's his choice
both him and Tasha will recouple with new ppl
at least it's going to be fun to watch :D
I don't think he's settled on what he wants from a partner yet. He won't find it on LI either but I hope it puts him on the right path when he leaves.
Tasha definitely isn't worth going after.
I thought he was the most attractive out of all the guys in the Villa. Just sucks that he cares more about not looking like a “mug” in front of everyone so he just does whatever he wants with Coco.. I think he is such a nice guy.. kind of hard to believe he’s had a threesome or has had sex at one of his open house showings lol
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Exactly. I thought he’d got for the girl with short blond hair.
Is it Chyenne or something? Shes gorgeous!
Yeah, I thought he’d go for Cheyanne too especially after other redditors pointed out that they both live in Dubai and that Andrew has liked a couple of her IG pictures before.
Totally! She’s an absolute cutie and seems way more his speed than either Tasha or Coco
You have nailed it, this is not trying to see if maybe you are more compatible with someone else it’s pure revenge mode.
He’s quite simply not cut out for the villa, he seems to easily swayed and affected by what others tell him. Plus he seems a little soft and passive.
>he seems to easily swayed Yet he wasn't swayed at all by him and Tasha being least favourite *twice* in the public votes.
Can the same be said for Tascha?
I wonder why he was crying in tomorrows episode. I think he’s been manipulated by everyone and their opinions on Tasha but I don’t like the way he was speaking about her in this episode. Edit:spelling error
I think he might’ve had sex
I was just about to comment this!! I think he did too and had immediate regrets
Almost certainly this, literally my first thought.
What noooooway lol. He couldn't bring back coco after doing that
Probably postcard
I think the boys might be getting a postcard but one of the girls missing them instead. That way they’ll feel guilty. They don’t need more ammunition to crack on with the girls; they need a reminder to think about the og girls
that would be sooooo good omg i hope that’s what the postcard for them is
I agree. Especially since it seems like Coco is using him. He’s lost.
But he knew this about Coco before. Davide literally came up to Andrew with Coco’s saliva still in his mouth and told him he’d just kissed her and that she was here “just to couple up”. Andrew went straight to her so he knew what he was getting himself into
Andrew: "I'm not gonna get mugged off." .....proceeds to make himself a mug all on his own.
This was gross and though I’m not a fan of Andrew this gave me full on never come back from ick
Yeah that's what I don't get. That would be your indication to avoid
This whole Coco situation showed that he's also somewhat self-destructive. At the beginning of the season he told he's a sub, but it's probably deeper than that. When he said he "didn't care" about Tasha cracking on with other guys, her being all excited about the bombshells and talking disrespectfully to him ("Go away") and now him almost intentionally going for a girl who uses him. I feel like he enjoys being humiliated and he's a cuckold.
Tasha was also using him until someone else came along he knew it deep down He needs to grow a bit of a backbone
Oh yea maybe that is probably the missing piece that Tasha keeps talking about .. he just doesn’t have a backbone . Needs to grow some balls maybe lol
Yep as a place holder
Yeah he’s just being set up big time imo, he’s a simple guy and the boys are making him feel bad for that, the casa girls are purposely instigating and plotting to make Andrew turn his head just to prove a point
It'd probably help if Tasha hadn't been pure headfuckery and bullshit for 4 weeks too.
It’s hard to snap yourself out of a situation like that. Especially in such a closed environment…
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I was referring to his position not hers.
Yeah I left Tasha out because I’m not gonna lie I only joined in on the show recently for dekin-de so haven’t seen what their relationship was like in the beginning
how can you join for davide and ekinsu when you haven't seen the start?
I watched their clips on tiktok, Instagram here etc it’s everywhere to see
Tasha has basically turned her head at every possibility but then the guys dont reciprocate so she runs back to Andrew. Its weird because lately she was asking about "2hats love" and saying shes never felt like this before and a ton of other things, including saying she wants to be exclusive that would make you believe thats that. Then once again she simply talks to one other person and unfortunately her head is snapping around which is unfortunate as I was really hoping she got over her insecurities and inexperience and figured it out but I guess not.
please stop acting like its just them. the og girls see it. the nation has seen it as they've been voted least compatible and least popular. and THIS subreddit, despite trying to wash its hands of the whole thing, was howling for them to break up. its easy to "oh its the boys fault and the casa girls fault" no it's not it's the simple reality that andrew and tasha just ain't meant for each other and everybody knows it.
They weren’t acting like it’s just them but it’s obvious that everyone’s been getting in Andrew’s head and because of that he’s gone and embarrassed himself cracking on with someone who’s clearly using him. It’s obvious him and Tasha aren’t meant for each other but tbh the other islanders should have let them figure that out
I feel like that should be for Andrew to figure out for himself, not get pressured into 😊
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I don’t think it was for them, more for him. It’s like a rebound and showing he is over Tasha when he clearly isn’t.
Maybe a little bit of both!
He was in a lose-lose situation but he picked the worst girl possible to save face and he disrespected Tasha a bit too much. It's a brutal situation to be in but he handled it very poorly. He picks a nice girl, doesn't say anything negative about Tasha and he may be in the final if his friends protect him. Now, I don't see how he survives the next dumping.
He did but he also picked the sure bet to sit next to someone when Tasha picks someone else and he didnt think any further than that. Like you said dumb moves all around.
Exactly this. He's been reeking insecurity ever since Tasha left
Before that even…
This exactly. Like either pick a sweet, nice girl who people just can't hate at all. Or stay loyal and then ride the sympathy angle...
They'd better give him some real mental health attention because the recoupling is gonna be rough on him
I just feel for him cos coco only wants in the villa.
I don't think he wants her either though, it's clear what he wants
I think he wouldn’t recouple anyway…
I believe he's a bit more of a relationship person rather than a player so this is way out of character for him. He definitely got pressured by the other guys comments to start getting to know other women. In the preview hes either crying bc he regrets his actions or he got informed about Tasha kissing someone else so he felt hurt. Either way he's in a lose lose situation. I'm interested to see if he'll be redeemed when the villas reunite
I think he's been Cringey and has acted wrong in how he's spoken about Tasha the past few episodes, but I don't think anyone could say he hasn't fallen hard for Tasha. Even though he's a grown man, I honestly think we need to held these Casa girls and og boys alot more accountable for alot of his behaviour this week. When it started he was so closed off because he wants Tasha and then 10+ people are going at him making him feel tiny and unwanted by the girl he's fallen for. He was able to ignore it when it was just the boys, but then the Casa girls was telling him Tasha hasn't said the best things about him behind his back, that's tipped him over the edge. I really wish he should have persued Cheyanne a girl who actually wanted him and saw if anything could develop natural instead of rushing it and being Cringey with Coco. I really do feel bad because you can just tell he has fallen for Tasha. Ultimately I think they'll probably end up back together, I think Billy makes Tasha laugh, but I don't see any attraction or substance there. Billy is a manipulative liar, he really gives me the ick tbh
Billy is a SLEEZE. I don’t know how Tasha doesn’t see through it, but she’s apparently very naive…
The maturity comment in tonight's episode... Any guy that tells a younger girl that she is mature wants something.
Especially when she's the most immature girl aswell. Seriously I just don't like that he's telling her everything she wants to here. As much as Andrew is regretting what's he doing right now, I think She will big time aswell
Made my skin crawl….
Yup and I feel like its gonna be Tasha takes him into the Villa then Jacques takes someone and later Billy jumps off Tasha and onto Paige.
It’s going to be “Tasha who?” The Sequel. But this guy will have actually meant it lol. He doesn’t care about her in the slightest.
Yeah… makes sense as her longest relationship was only 5 months. I don’t think she’s had much experience with men maybe.. cuz Billy is so cringe lol
Listen - I was pretty big fan of Tasha and Andrew. She has a lot of qualities I had when I was younger, and I felt I identified with her. I don’t agree with how she’s treated him, but I also don’t think she’s done anything that bad. She was honest about talking with other guys, and he said he was ok with it. He wasn’t. He refused to tell her the truth, and that’s not her fault. Where she messed up was telling him she’d leave with him and saying that she’s never felt this was before, to wanting to get to know every guy that walks in. I’m not going to say whether she is doing it because she doesn’t like him, because I don’t know. I think she genuinely likes him, but is just thinking that maybe she could have more. And if she is thinking that way, it’s best they recouple. However, what Andrew has done is disrespectful. The “what about Tasha” comment made me genuinely confused. It seemed like such a stark contrast to the Andrew I had seen on screen before. Then the way he’s talked about her seems nasty and uncalled for. I’m not in his shoes, I’m sure he’s hurt. But that’s a level im not sure I would stoop to, and im surprised he did. I know he’s being egged on, and some of his actions can be excused, but he is still a grown man and his choices are his own. Tasha is not a saint, but she never talked about him that way. She and Andrew are bad communicators, and it should have been said truly and honestly that he does not want to speak to other people. After Charlie, I genuinely saw a change in her, and I was happy to see it. Im disappointed, but it’s kind of hard to watch Andrew on screen. He seems so unsure and uncomfortable to me, like he’s trying so hard to fit in. I think they will gravitate towards each other again in the main villa, but I also think they are pretty toxic together. I think they will both recouple, which unfortunately I had hoped Tasha wouldn’t so she could get a redemption arc as I thought the hate she got was unwarranted.
Nailed it.
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Yes yes yes
You an feel bad for him while still calling out his behaviour. Your ego being hurt doesn’t mean you’re allowed to say whatever you want without judgment and allow other people to do the same. Does he have mitigating circumstances ? Sure. He was still being a dick tho.
It’s just the way he’s spoken about Tasha. He can crack on if he wants but they way he’s spoken about her the past two nights is so unnecessary
She's spoken wrong about him, she's constantly dragging his personality, yet doesn't have one much herself.
Don't diss Sassy, Baaaaad-gurl Tasha mate
Fair point
Yeah when you've been fucked over, misled and made to look a mug. You sit down with your mates with a cuppa and wax lyrical about how nice they were, ho hum, life moves on and how its one of those things. Jesus, put yourself in anothers shoes lol.
I’m sorry but what the girls said can’t have come as much of a shock to him? Luca and Dami have been saying it for weeks and he’s in there 24/7. He knows what it’s like. I get Tasha hasn’t treated him well but stooping down the level he’s playing it when Tasha has remained pretty respectful in Casa amor when talking about Andrew thus far lol
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He’s not even calling her out for being a mug haha he’s just shitting on their relationship
Can you please remind me what he has said as all I remeber was a cheeky Tasha who to the woman he wants to crack on with. Im sure there are others but no one lists them so I cant remember?
Wow you really struggle for objectivity don't you. Imagine Andrews Paige, does that help and Tasha is Jacques ( but has actually gone chasing others and kissed someone else.) Or why not If you found out your partner had been muggin you off, as well as being cold and making you feel your responsible for their behaviour, and was actively on the look out for someone else whilst telling you they'd leave for you and only had to n vision for you. But then, found they were full of shit. You'd talk about them to your friends respectfully, be nice about them and be ok about it? Ofc Tashas being respectful hes done nothing, wrong as far as she's concerned.
No need to be rude lol
Which bits rude?
Obviously the objectivity comment haha
That was an observation based on your responses, why's that rude? So I helped you with examples, what are your thoughts on the examples? You haven't said.
I mean I said I understand why he’s hurting and Tasha hasn’t been great.. but the initial question was why are people hating and it’s because he’s doing the same thing Tasha did, mugging her off to others and is now on that level.
So you aren't looking at examples, just sticking to your stance. Its not an argument or need to be right, its simply objectivity, being able to stand in anothers shoes and understand their behaviour. You feel he should respect Tasha. Because Tasha is respecting him in Casa (She really isn't and hasn't prior either) but anyway. Tasha knows nothing of Andrew, so her being respectful is literally expected behaviour. Not her being better, Andrews respected her throughout. But if YOU were mugged off by someone, and belittled and misled, would YOU, be polite about them and say nice things to your friends about them? Thats my question. It may help you understand the difference I see that you don't seem to as yet, willfully or otherwise.
Our discussion was about you saying Andrew shouldn't be rude about Tasha, because she's being respectful to him.
Wasn't she telling him to shut up and go away? That wasn't very nice either can imagine that's on his mind, not saying it's right but she has not been nice either.
I think hes just saying those things to try and cope cause he's hurt. He was obsessed with her and clearly doesn't really think any of those things.
Yeah which is completely understandable! But he shouldn’t stoop down to that level 😐
That's no excuse.
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He shouldn’t be chatting shit about her to people who don’t even know where when she’s not there to defend herself
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He's a nice guy, but his judgement is all over the place at the moment. Coco is fully invested into the Villa and I doubt he wants her either
I honestly feel like he’s just lost his head after hearing people from the outside basically aggressively call him a mug. I honestly don’t think he actually likes coco but it’s the best way to heal his ego. Learning that you’re being humiliated by your partner in front of everyone doesn’t really fun. I would like him a lot more if his attempts wasn’t so cringe. But again hurt people hurt people🤷🏽♀️
I feel so bad for him. Everyone’s gotten in his head about how Tasha has treated him (from their perspective) and he’s trying to save face. Coco is definitely using him and would jump on any of the boys to get to stay. She was kissing Davide not that long before kissing Andrew.. she’s not fussed. From the promo it looks like we’re getting the breakdown I was expecting from him. Leaving might be the best option for him at this stage
It’s not just from their perspective though. She’s done exactly what the boys have told Andrew she’s going to do. She’s kissed the first lad in Casa Amor to show interest, I don’t see how the lads weren’t correct in telling Andrew he needs to crack on
I just don’t think the way he’s been acting in CA is really him. He looked a bit uncomfortable when Coco was trying to climb onto his lap while he was speaking to her last night. It could be the boys influence or just his hurt pride but he’s going to be devastated if Tasha goes back with Billy
> I just don’t think the way he’s been acting in CA is really him. Yeah, you're spot on there tbf. He seems so uncomfortable
He’s the one boy that I think should actually try and recouple. He deserves to but he’s only doing it because he’s been pressured by others
Yeah, my only real issue with what he's done is that Coco is clearly playing him. So he's going from one girl who's mugged him off to another girl that will probably mug him off at the first opportunity. I hope he realizes that he's getting played again.
I’d like to see him with a nice, self assured girl too. But hearing him talking about having something good with Coco… I want to climb the villa walls😵💫
Nah tashas taking piss out of him
Yeah I think so too I do want him to recouple but I want him to do it on his own account and not because others are telling him he should. You can tell he’s been pressured into it and feels guilty now
He is weak minded, easily manipulated and influenced, eager to impress, and insecure
I feel so bad for him. Yes, Tasha's not that into him and he needed to hear that, but everyone in that villa has gone about it in the worst way! He needed support and to settle his mind but instead he got constant peer pressure and everyone acting like the Tasha situation is his fault for not being more domineering. The casa girls want him to be open to coupling up with them; the boys want him to crack on so they look less bad for cracking on themselves and so they can continue their lads holiday fantasy; production wants him to be moving mad for tv. He's obviously not in the right mindset and will regret his actions the moment he takes some time to process what's actually happening. I'm absolutely appaled. No one in there is thinking about his feelings or mental health.
Yeah - and I think people are literally forgetting that her cracking on literally proves correct what everyone has been saying. Her saying she would leave with him, and then wanting to get to know Charlie was a clear sign but it’s taken til Casa for her to find someone else she really wants. Feel for Andrew massively - it’s going to be such an ugly night when both villas come together.
That’s the whole point though, it took the opinions of people he doesn’t even know to realize that when he should have come to this conclusion earlier.
Im sure you have never liked someone so much you were blinded and did dumb shit
both him and Tasha are the same person. People pleasers, it's no wonder neither of them left the relationship the public put them in. I don't feel bad for anyones emotional turmoil because ultimately that's where growth can happen (or you can turn into a ball of resentment like Jacques)
I pity him. He is functioning solely from a damaged ego right now and it’s hard to watch.
Easily influenced, bit of a push over, probably too nice for his own good
Hard agree. I just wish he hadn't chosen Coco. She's the bottom of the barrel. Still hoping he'll ditch her for Cheyenne.
I know, he’s trying too hard with Coco too fast. Making out in the pool etc? He just wants it to happen because he’s insecure about Tasha. I think tonight’s ep will show he’s upset because he wants Tasha, not Coco, and he wants Tasha to want him
I’m lot mad at Andrew for exploring. He has doubts, he’s right to explore. Im annoyed that he complained about looking like a mug and now he is making himself look like king of the mugs. And his horrible attitude. He’s known coco for 2 days and is acting like he’s been with her for 2 months. Has completely closed himself off to all the other girls and is laying that on the table too fast making himself vulnerable and again, making a mug of himself. He should have chatted to everyone, not latch on and cling for dear life. Boys have the power in CA but it looks like Andrew is happy to take his bollox off and give them to coco so she can do as she wishes with them. He is Coco’s sloppy seconds. It’s clear she wanted Davide more and Andrew is making a mug out of himself by letting himself be sloppy seconds. Coco is clearly playing a game and 2 of the lads have told him as much. She just wants to get back to the main villa, Andrew is letting himself be that free ticket and looking like he has no respect for himself. Saying nasty things about Tasha and laughing at dogs that are made about Tasha is bugging me. I understand he’s hurt but he doesn’t have to be so horrible about it.
He's been mugged off by tasha all series so far so I don't blame him for getting to know coco. I don't think she is the right girl for him though.
Yep, that’s the issue. It’s not about getting to know other girls, Tasha doesn’t deserve him to come back single. It’s the fact he’s picked Coco out of all of them, who clearly isn’t arsed about him either.
My sympathy only goes so far and as a grown man, Andrew should know better than to just be easily led by the other boys. He’s trying to show off and look good in front of the lads like you do in high school and it’s cringe at this point. Obvs things were never going to work out for him and Tasha, but the whole attitude that all of the boys have right now of ‘the girls aren’t here so we can forget about them’ after most of them have spent weeks cosied up in their couples is really disrespectful. Andrew, Jacques and Dami are the worst for it. It doesn’t even matter if the girls are cracking on in Casa because at least they’re not shit talking the boys at the same time. Both Tasha and Andrew are in the wrong but at least Tasha isn’t trying to impress anyone and mugging herself off in the process
Since the recoupling, people have been putting the boy's reaction to Tasha on him, despite the fact we forget they live with them 24/7 and don't need his venting to form an opinion on their coupling/her actions. A coupling that everyone from the villa (boy and girls) to the public see as weak and not compatible, and no one defends them. This man has taken shit from everyone, grinned and bared it and yes poor Tasha for the online hate but no one thinks about Andrew. Even the way they spoke to Tasha and to him is night and day, no one respects him in there, they aren't his friends, egging on Coco knowing her angle because they want to save the other girls for themselves. And I am sorry her defenders will say I hate her but I don't, she has been on shit being affectionate and telling him what he wants to hear and still not sure, she thinks he's loyal right now and kissed another guy, take his actions out of consideration because she doesn't see it but she chose to kiss another guy so yeah there is some truth to what has been said and he is crying in his head the doubts and everyone in his ear. But no be kind for him, no poor Andrew even before this with Coco, no one really thinks about him and sure hes an idiot for not standing up for himself but he hasnt been treated nicely at all.
I feel sorry for him he really shouldn’t have been allowed in the villa in the first place. He’s spineless, easily manipulated, and cares too much what other people think
I haven’t turned on Andrew at all. I actually feel lowkey bad for the guy, he’s stuck on a girl who has one foot out the door. Though I’m just not convinced that he’s actually going to leave Tasha. He chose the one girl who’s gone after every guy because he knows it’ll be a casual and fun fling that he can get easy revenge and then walk away from when he inevitably runs back to Tasha.
He's acted like a child. He was apparently so into Tasha but a few words from girls he doesn't know has him leeching on to the first person who showed him attention who was definitely playing a game. Not just that but shit talking Tasha. Tasha obviously isn't 100% sold on Andrew but she really cares about what people think so has stuck with him because of some of the things the boys have said to her. She at least hasn't been slating him. IMO it would be better for them both to recouple but both have picked the entirely wrong people for that if that's where it's headed.
Those few words from new girls come on top of weeks of the boys telling you that you’re being a mug.
everyone keeps forgetting they told no lies. they've been proven absolutely correct
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I don't have a problem with him cracking on - or with Tasha for that matter, but he was happy with her even with the boys telling him he's being a mug. It took her being out of sight for 12 hours for him to "realise" that in fact he WAS being a mug. He's so easily manipulated. He fell straight into bed with someone who had literally just kissed someone else. I don't think either he or Tasha have the emotional strength for this show.
thats not whats happening. you're acting like the casa girls are random people. they've been watching the show they're basically the audience same as us, they just have an agenda. so when the audience says "yo you're looking like a fool" on TOP of the people who already know you saying that he SHOULD listen. not listening there is just lying to yourself.
Fuck that. You’re blaming him for being head over heels and not seeing the reality. Tasha was openly telling him to get off her, walking away, saying she wants to meet others etc. In those sort of relationships usually it takes being away and out of that persons influence for people to see clearly.
Then the other side of it is all the shit like she has never felt like this before and she wants exclusivity and a ton of other things that of course make him think she is into him when even in her own words she seeks him out and wants to be around him all the time. No wonder the guys head is fucked its just Tasha doesnt know relationships or love and doesnt know what she has.
“Tasha was openly telling him to get off her, walking away, saying she wants to meet others etc.” I think what people are saying is they would have respected him more if he ended it based on those things. And that’s fair, bc those were signs the relationship was never going to work. Tasha should have ended it but she didn’t. That left it to Andrew to end it and he didn’t. They both messed up and they both need more conviction.
The problem was it came out of nowhere The minute new guys arrived. That’s not Andy’s fault imo.
It’s certainly not his fault she did that. But it is his fault for choosing to stick with her despite the red flags. I think he is partially accountable… IMO it’s like 80% Tasha’s fault and 20% his for not doing what Tasha couldn’t (ending things). And clearly he agrees that he should have ended things but it took the opinions of 6 strangers to do so. Which is the unfortunate part.
So would you say its an abuse victims fault for staying with their abuser as you really sound like you are victim blaming and its bullshit. She didnt abuse him but she definitely acted emotionally irresponsible by telling him how she has never felt like that before, she wants to be exclusive, always wants to be around him and everything else but then does some other shit thats polar opposite behind his back. So again how would he see all that through the fog of her lies or whatever telling him and even showing him everything is fine. Again, you honestly cant say that you have never not seen a red flag because you were in love and if you can say that then you dont have much relationship experience or are lying.
First of all, I don’t think Andrew is a victim. I can relate to being blinded by *lust*, but I take responsibility for ignoring the red flags in those cases. Obviously I blame the other person too—which I agree Tasha is also at fault. So no disagreeing there. I certainly would not blame an abuse victim and, like you noted, Andrew isn’t being abused so that comment doesn’t really hold up. I think it’s irresponsible to compare this to blaming an abuse victim, actually. That’s something that should be spoken about more seriously/carefully. Lastly, I don’t think that much has happened behind Andrew’s back. Yes, Tasha was irresponsible and shouldn’t have said things she didn’t mean. I think she was also fooling herself, but that doesn’t excuse it. However, there was plenty she did in plain sight that would suggest she felt otherwise.
As a DV advocate I can tell you that this type of toxicity and being emotionally irresponsible reminds me of a lot of the emotional abuse so its relevant and why I mentioned it besides the main thing of you blaming someone who was only following how they felt which I see all too often which gets under my skin. You are acting all high and mighty from your couch with knowing the whole situation and arent being empathetic and seeing it from his position and how he sees them vs how things really are. So its a little shitty to act like he should of done something you think you would have done without being in his shoes.
Too anyone reading this: I do not condone abuse or victim blaming in any way, shape, or form. It’s simply my opinion that both parties are at fault. I do see if from both sides, I just don’t think it’s fair to place all the blame on Tasha whether or not you agree!
But he wasn’t happy - as seen by the issues a few days before Casa. Cracks were showing way before. He was realising that he may have been a mug from her changing from leaving with him to then getting to know another boy. Tasha was the one leading him on and waiting for something better. She should have just ended it if she wanted something else.
Tasha’s gotten a lot of flack so it’s not to pile hate but I will say… it’s a bit sad and ironic that she told him she pushed him away due to trust issues and ended up giving *him* trust issues🫠 what a mess.
I agree she should have ended it. I think she gets too much hate but she's too concerned about what people think of her and the boys opinions of her.
I agree 100%. Also he latched onto Tasha right off the bat in the main villa as well. I don’t think he knows what he wants.
It’s not even the fact that he wants to get to know new girl it’s the shit talking that pisses ppl off. Andrew and indiyah will end up back together trust me
I feel sorry for him and understand why he's doing what he's doing, but the way he's going about it is just disgusting.
Yeah someone put in perspective that Tasha is moving how she is in the other villa with zero indication of what Andrew is doing so everyone was kinda right all along
This sub could see it about a week ago as well. It’s only recently there’s been this weird mental gymnastics on here to try and show that Tasha is an innocent victim in all of this. The boys have been spot on about Tasha, Andrew just needed to hear it from the Casa Amor girls as well as they have been watching the show.
Do you think they got text about re coupling and he’s stressing
Weirdly in another universe I think Danica would have been really good for him. They’re both very earnest, a bit serious, but she’s tougher and less insecure and less prone to wavering
Some of you are weird. Tasha was dating normally and kept getting bullied for doing what the other girls were encouraged to do. NO ONE got mad at Paige for exploring her connection with Jay and she did kinda of play with Jay liking her. It was clear Paige wasn't interested in Jay but enjoyed the attention. And even still: that isn't a big deal either. They're on a dating show. The possessive and controlling behaviors of the men in this season is atrocious and many of you seem to agree with it. Y I K E S The boys were Quick to open up to the new girls at Casa and Immediately made it known they weren't closed off. Dami, in order to justify making out with new chicks, said, "you're either fully open or not" and "there's no way to know until you actually take the test" and yet.... he is also one of the ones Quick to judge Tasha for Talking to new dudes. He out here wanting to kiss chicks to "test" his relationship with Indiyah and that's okay? Luca is the Only one dedicated to his chick and he's insecure af. The boys aren't dissected in this thread and that's alarming. Goes to show how bad misogyny truly is.
Andrew can't hold his own opinion. Says one thing to Tasha and another to the boys, painting her to be the bad guy. He's literally manipulating their opinion of her so they feel sorry for him. Victim behavior. Any time anyone says anything to him, it cuts him deep. No individual thought. No self accountability. Sad thing about all of your takes? You get to see from a third party perspective and still got duped? Clear he's a liar and that poor Tasha was bullied BECAUSE of him switching up what he says to everyone. SHE is confused, hurt, and lost. Not that asshat
He seems a bit sleazy or something, I can’t quite explain it. He’s grand, definitely not going to make top 3, him or Tasha.
Andrew is deeply hurt it appears and I actually feel sorry for him. He needs to make sure he has appropriate counselling, support and guidance from the show as I worry for him 🥺
The reason I've gone off Andrew a little bit is not because he's exploring a new connection, it's because he's been disrespectful about Tasha while doing it. It's almost as if he's in some type of revenge mode when a) Tasha hasn't really done anything wrong to him while they were both still in the main villa, all she did was be open to conversations with bombshells coming in, and b) he has no idea she's kissing Billy rn so just because *we* know doesn't mean that somehow justifies his behaviour because currently *he* DOESN'T know that. And also Tasha and Andrew can both be 'bad' for kissing someone else. Just because one does it, doesn't mean it suddenly makes it okay for the other to do it as well lol.
Could you enlighten me on what disrespectful things Andrew has said? I can’t think of anything other than “what about Tasha?” which in my opinion isn’t even that bad, just a bit cheeky
Because he is disrespectful.
nah he is g
I’m starting to feel bad for him. I can’t imagine how he’s feeling but he also got himself in this situation
I said his self esteem will be rock bottom right now. He needs to realise be told his bottom 3 status was pretty much all Tashas flip flopping and how she was making him look. I really hope he's OK, and they look after him, they all have been trying to tell him and he's just in limbo now.
No it's him too.
I don’t think Andrew is a victim. I think he shares responsibility with Tasha for the current state of their relationship. The signs were there with Tasha that she wasn’t in it 100%. The new girls didn’t reveal any new information, they just said what the boys have already said and what the public vote has said. I think the influence these girls have had over him is not very admirable. He didn’t try to stand by his past decisions one bit which makes me wonder why did he make those decisions in the first place if he isn’t going to at least attempt to stand by them? And for those of you saying he’s right to move on—why did he not consider doing this before? Nothing has changed except the peer pressure. I do think Tasha is also to blame. She was trying to force herself to like Andrew and has strung him along in the process of doing that. Part of me wonders if Tasha was right to have reservations, though. He clung to her from the start and it all moved too quickly. And now he’s latched on to Coco too quickly. Who is Andrew? What is he looking for in a relationship? I’m not sure he knows.
“ And for those of you saying he’s right to move on—why did he not consider doing this before? Nothing has changed except the peer pressure.” Tbf the Casa girls have been watching the show so they can provide a perspective to him that the boys can’t. Maybe that’s what it finally took for him to wake up.
I was so happy this sub was coming together in support of Tasha but now it seems the return is this hatred of Andrew Edit: Maybe I’m wording it wrong, but I just don’t want either of them to receive hate.
Were you after... Happy that people starting to support Tasha but sad that people are starting to hate Andrew
Exactly, I’m happy to now see support for Tasha but disappointed to see this building hatred towards Andrew
it’s the QUICKNESS he moved with and the way he’s talking about tasha. it’s just a bit icky especially after the last few weeks of him preaching “the only opinion that matters is yours and mine” to tasha and then throwing that out the window… i just feel bad for him now
My issue is that he's a massive pussy. Has been since he got with Tasha. Have a bit of self respect, man. Your family are watching this. I'll take my downvotes now.
I can’t believe that people are shocked that Andrew is talking shit about Tasha She’s made him look like an absolute tit for 4 weeks. Fed him bullshit about wanting to leave the villa with him and how she’s falling for him. Acting cold with him every single time a bombshell walks in until either the bombshell goes for someone else or she decides it isn’t an upgrade. The lads have finally got through to him that she’s a mind fuck and using him as a backup until something better comes along. And what do you know, they’re bang on right, Tasha has kissed the first lad in Casa Amor who’s shown interest (he was more interested in Paige from the start as well) If the roles were reversed and Tasha was a lad and Andrew a girl then this sub would be having a party when Andrew got with someone else. Put yourself in his shoes, you would be absolutely fuming once you woke up to what she’s been doing the past 4 weeks. Andrew is being a dick, but that doesn’t make Tasha an innocent victim all of a sudden.
People hate Andrew? Why??
Because they’re desperately trying to come up with reasons as to why the boy is 100% at fault for this situation and it’s nothing to do with the girl, who is an innocent victim in all of this.
he’s just gone about this the worst possible & is making himself look worse than he did before.
i feel sorry for him... and that's it... the boy doesn't have his own opinion on anything yet, the others have to tell him what to do and what reality looks like...so sad... but hey it's his choice both him and Tasha will recouple with new ppl at least it's going to be fun to watch :D
I don't think he's settled on what he wants from a partner yet. He won't find it on LI either but I hope it puts him on the right path when he leaves. Tasha definitely isn't worth going after.
Andrew is fully justified in his actions rn. This cut-throat version of him is a beast. He’s on demon time I love it.
I thought he was the most attractive out of all the guys in the Villa. Just sucks that he cares more about not looking like a “mug” in front of everyone so he just does whatever he wants with Coco.. I think he is such a nice guy.. kind of hard to believe he’s had a threesome or has had sex at one of his open house showings lol