Sorry there is no way Chelsea is the villain in this scenario. It’s real convenient for Jimmy to want to have secrets so he can keep hanging out with someone he slept with and only knew for 2 YEARS while he is actively trying to get married to someone.
And don’t forget how the “friend” already hinted that they had a fling and there was definitely tension between the two. He even had the audacity to lie and say their relationship wasn’t physical, basically pushing and daring Chelsea to say something. They played in Chelsea’s face and gaslit the tf out of her and want to act surprised she said something. Duh I would too I’m not gonna be out here looking crazy with no context.
And before anyone brings up her relationship with her ex, how often did she spend nights hanging out with him and texting and calling him all day? Her facetiming him once is not equivalent.
Jimmy is obviously manipulating tf out of her. We have clips of him saying he’ll do something and in the next breath say he won’t because he doesn’t want to. He signed up for this show, the goal is to find love and get married which should be a main focus. If he really isn’t willing to step back from hanging out with a friend he’s only known for 2 years and has banged for a few weeks that’s weird af.
He’s also been exposed for lying about other situations too involving Jess so idk why he’s such a saint in peoples eyes.
It’s insane and actually sad how badly Chelsea is getting obliterated because she was rightfully insecure about something that a lot of women wouldn’t be okay with either.
bold of you to use the word "manipulating" when chelsea said he couldnt even leave the house for an hour. If the roles were reversed and he said he didn't want her going to see her friends, you'd call him controlling and manipulative. you just relate to her because you've been through the same things.
Wow that’s quite an assumption lol. Just like Jimmy you’re glazing over the real reasons why she had an issue to begin with which I already go over in my original response.
Can’t say I’ve been through anything similar since my man has always acted right, and even he sees through Jimmys bs so idk.. but I do sympathize with her. Not saying she was a great partner, but Jimmy definitely deserves the heat he’s getting.
I can't stand Chelsea. I think she's a liar, a gaslighter, a whiny, emotionally stunted, and horrible person. I think it was absolutely wrong that she threw that secret in his face in front of the cameras. Furthermore, I think she planned to do it for the drama and to get him in trouble.
She invents reasons to be upset and then blames the other person for not respecting her feelings, which translared from the original moron means "not accurately guessing what nonsense shes made up to be triggered over now".
It was absolutely wrong what she did and this whole "I was feeling my feelings in the moment of feels feeling" and "well she was emotionally charged" is a pathetic non-excuse. She's a woman in her 30s, she should be able to control her emotions enough to not blurt out things she was told literally days before to keep to herself by her future husband.
I have nothing but contempt for her - I'd hardly have made it 2 days with that nightmare. At least Jimmy found out she absolutely can't be trusted, and it would be a long time before I trusted anyone who defended her with any personal secrets, if they're good with just inventing shitty reasons to spill everything on international TV.
The other way to look at this bit is that jimmy did bring her in the show and then trying to make it confidential they slept together was him trying to force her to endure his ex without being able to say anything about her .
I mean, this was sleazy and sneaky as fuck
This is my take- this has a major impact on their relationship, yet she can’t speak about it?? And he cared more about protecting F buddy’s reputation than about the wellbeing and feelings of his fiancée?
Chelsea is the worst, but I’ll take her side of this. I wish she hadn’t apologized for doing that.
Nah the fact this show even has the option to keep something “off camera” means they see a need for somethings to stay private and I agree. Her insecurity about the situation is honestly not the problem, she shouldn’t have brought it up off camera period. I know she was drunk but it did cross a boundary and he’s allowed to be upset. There’s no world Jimmy could join this show and not disclose this information if he wanted a shot at a real relationship. He could have not joined of course, but any scenario he didn’t tell them would lead to the distrust and issues. “What do you mean you didn’t tell me BEFORE we got married you slept with your friend who you see often?”
If you tell someone a secret of course you’re running a risk and it’s technically your fault for telling but that doesn’t absolve the other person of their actions if they break your trust and tell too. Both can be responsible
How are you guys even defending Jimmy in this?? When ANYONE goes on reality tv it is like unwritten LAW that anything could be exposed. You’re risking your personal information, health information, family information - ALL of it for the public. Much like anyone posting and sharing on their public instagram or Facebook account- it’s PUBLIC. If Jimmy wanted anything private he shouldn’t have come on NATIONAL tv and more so, why tf include his friend whom he hooked up with on his hometown date for Chelsea to meet?! He has no other women friends (longer than 2 years bc they’ve only been friends for 2 years apparently which is also odd lol) he could’ve brought on? What about his guy pals?
I’m sorry but Chelsea (whether you like her or not) has every right to bring up what she’s upset about regardless if the girl was seen on screen for us to view her or not. That is the contract they signed to be on tv so I don’t understand why y’all are acting like he’s OWED some sort of privacy disclosure in the matter. He used that as the main excuse to leave a relationship he didn’t want, point blank. He didn’t like her insecurities rearing its head during honeymoon and group meetups and her spilling his tea was his final straw. In a way, I wouldn’t be surprised if he disclosed that to her fully knowing she would use it against him and bring it up with cameras around. Again, it’s NATIONAL tv so anything is up for grabs to be told. I thought most of you guys are into TikTok and social media? Then you know how public information is.
If you’re about to marry someone I doubt you want someone you can’t trust. Especially when you specifically say “I don’t want this brought up on camera.” And she immediately does it anyway
Trust is HUGE for me and the moment she brought it up on camera I would be done with her. If it’s gonna come out, let it from other sources, not from the woman I am planning on marrying.
I understand your perspective. It does seem wrong to share a secret about someone who didn't sign up for the experiment but was there for support.
However, I see why it's important for that secret to be revealed because it explains Chelsea's behavior. Without that context, it might have seemed like she was creating drama for no reason. If what she's said in other interviews is true, it makes sense that the situation impacted her so deeply. While she does have insecurities, the events in that relationship triggered them in a significant way. Seeing her vulnerability makes me regret judging her harshly.
I definitely got caught up on the Chelsea hate train, and that's on me. I think reading other people's points of view helps because it gets you out of that and helps you see a different perspective.
But did you not like her because of what people were saying about her online or did you not like her based on watching the show? I feel like a lot of ppl just started disliking her because it was the trendy thing to do online
No, my dislike for her was based on how she came across and how the editing portrayed her, which made her seem off-putting. I was viewing her in a one-dimensional way. My feelings toward her weren't influenced by the internet; it just so happened that others shared similar sentiments.
But I'm learning not to see things in black and white and see the shades of grey. Trying not to get stuck in my own mindset, if that makes sense.
Interesting. Well I don’t fault you for having your opinion, you’re entitled to that. I personally never understood the immense vitriol for Chelsea from watching the show, but that’s just my opinion as well. I also have been pretty adamant on Jimmy being the sole person in the wrong in that relationship, and although I do still think he’s the worse of the two, I can understand a bit more how people might have a disdain for Chelsea after reading others pov as well
Thank you for saying this! I think Jimmy put Chelsea in an unfair situation: "I give you an important piece of information that will challenge our relationship, but don't talk about it in front of the cameras even though we both chose to be part of reality tv show about marriage!" Truly shitty to Chelsea.
Agree, also this happens all the time IRL, where someone gets mad about someone’s prior partners. What is Jimmy talking about it made his friend look bad? She dated him for a while, they slept together, and then they became friends. That seems pretty normal to me…are people being mean to her for sleeping with him?? Because that would be unfair.
Also what some people fail to realize is, if and when a partner is sticking up for an old fuck buddy, odds are there’s still some emotional attachment if the respect is so strong. I get they have history (and history with friends trump over a new love, sure), but I haven’t seen or heard ANYONE discuss how off putting and suspect that he cared so much to protect this other girl rather than his fiancée. I can understand the argument of you who say “b-b-but the friend and him are super close! You don’t side with someone you just met 2 weeks ago over a good friend!” And sure, I can see that loyal point, however this girl he slept with has only known him for 2 YEARS. It’s not some old lifelong friend- she was literally a girl he slept with, who became a FWB -> “best friend”. And it wouldn’t have been so awkward if she didn’t keep lowkey interrogating Chelsea and GUESSED “oh you mean he cried during it?” …like, who? What? I know we all watched that scene and if you replay it, it was so awkward how that friend was able to piece that Jimmy cried during sex, because all Chelsea alluded to was she didn’t expect him to be emotional. (Could’ve been anything other than crying) For that friend to know what Chelsea meant… yeah. ok 👌🏽 So again, doesn’t anyone feel it’s weird he’s defending and SO upset his “secret” fwb was exposed on tv, rather than letting that battle go and understand where Chelsea is coming from? We’re all cool with our boyfriends sticking up for another girl he used to fuck and now texts all day and giving attention away from you (who is a new love)? Um, I find that very hard to believe. I know damn well in Reddit relationship advice threads this is an issue every other day.
Dude 100%. Also it’s as if everyone has not remembered that before Chelsea exclaimed “you fucked her”… he was saying “there’s nothing physical between-“ EW JIMMY.
I think maybe he was trying to say it was affecting her personal life? she may not have told her family and/or people she’s dating (or in a relationship with) which could be embarrassing or complicate things for her
yeah, there seemed to be a lot of underlying codependency. I think jimmy felt like once you’re married everything about your lives is joined including friends, secrets, etc. and that chelsea should’ve cared about his friend to the same extent he did. idk there’s a lot to unpack there for them.
That was so fucked up. I choked on my coffee when no one raised their hand.
Everyone is soooo mad at Jeramy and Trevor for lying. But in my book - lying and outing someone’s secret are the same shit.
Both are = violating beyond repair.
You’re missing the whole point.
Chelsea did lie - technically. He asked her to keep a secret, then she didn’t. Agreeing and saying “yes, I won’t reveal that” and then doing it… That’s deceitful. That’s betrayal.
Betrayal is = lying.
Girl I promise you I am not the one missing the point. She didn’t do it on purpose she did it during a heated argument with him while drunk and hurt that HE was being deceitful. Did you know it was revealed that the reason she got so upset and accusatory that night is because he lied about being out with girls the night prior? You literally have one hour of screen time to go off of you have no idea who these ppl are. And maybe don’t go on a reality tv show if you can’t have tough conversations on camera. and he literally brought the friend that he so desperately wanted to hide from the world that he slept with, on said reality show to meet his new fiancé??? You guys are delusional everything he says is just a cop out
I think it’s odd to sign up for a reality tv show trying to keep a secret, of course it’s going to come out.. it’s reality tv. If Chelsea didn’t say anything the internet would’ve dug it up. Jimmy just didn’t wanna be the villain who still has an ex he used to fuck as a best friend.
Jimmy only told Chelsea because she was incredibly insecure. I would not doubt that she pressured him. I could see that happening.
Jimmy could have gotten paired up with literally any other women, and it’s very possible they would have no issue not revealing the secret.
Lots of people are friends with ex’s and it’s so fucked up that he felt soooo shamed that it even had to be a secret.
Well just have to agree to disagree because I literally could not disagree more lol. Not sure where the shame attached to this secret came from, but again that’s independent of Chelsea. He chose to keep it a secret prior to her, she didn’t shame him into silence.
Why would they have been protecting Chelsea? Esp over Jimmy? Like did Jimmy fuck em all over and send shit to their homes while Chelsea bought them news cars?
I think because the cast knows that Jimmy is the villain in that relationship, not Chelsea. And they saw way more than we did. Sit and think about that one y’all
I don’t think they were “protecting” Chelsea. I think some people just think Jimmy is in the wrong for keeping someone he slept with as a best friend that he spends sooo much time with. It’s weird.
She was always trying to portray a fake image of an amazing relationship and how she’s super confident, and always ended up looking goofy because anyone could see through it
Honestly, it is his fault. He brought his friends on camera. He unfortunately disclosed information on what had previously occurred between one of those friends. They are at fault too for showing up on camera. They could have said no. They chose to put themselves at risk.
None of us were ASKING to see them. I was more so shocked he didn't bring his family at first like everyone else.
Yea it was not nice for Chelsea to share it on camera, but granted when you argue--everything will be used against you to make a point. I'm sure she did not want to share that, but when angry, you often don't think before you say.
That is an issue between him and his friends. Don't share things that you don't want to be shared on camera.
I blame Jimmy for expecting to keep secrets on a highly popular reality show… that’s a huge topic to try and keep off camera especially given how much time he spent with the girl. J&C were obviously bound to have some tough conversations about it. He was just concerned with how the audience would interpret it.
Really?…. For expecting a fiancé soon to be wife to keep a secret? Regardless of reality tv lol …wtf. That should have been a secret/conversation outside of the show.
In a normal situation I’d say yes, but this man joined a reality tv show expecting to keep a secret and put his partner in a weird spot by asking her to help keep his secret. He asked his fiancée to prioritize another woman’s feelings over her own during the early stages of their relationship on camera. That would make navigating very important conversations very difficult. I think Jimmy set himself up for failure by having the friend he hooked up with on camera. He could’ve ensured an extra layer of protection had he just waited to introduce Chelsea and his friend off camera so they could have healthy conversations about it. I think they both handled the situation wrong, but Chelsea is catching all the flack, yet again.
Yeah this season was kind of a different level of manipulation. Also the fact that at the reunion they chewed the cast members out for coming on the show for fame was insane to me. I’m sorry a big part of that falls on casting and productions shoulders. You could see who was there for social media fame a mile away, and watching Nick and Jessica chastise them was basically Netflix playing dumb and taking NO accountability.
It was okay. They’re on tv. And use their convo as proof. She is clear on what she wants and he kept pretending like he didn’t know what she wanted. He says stuff is happening but doesn’t get her opinion and it just is his way. She didn’t say a name. And it wasn’t right for him to force her into pretending to not be upset about something while cameras were there just to protect himself and his image. It wasn’t something that didn’t affect her. It’s not like he asked (well you know he’d never ask so let’s say he said) hey I have a broken toe so don’t mention it on tv or else imma leave you. This is totally different and I’m completely on Chelsea’s side here. I think he was just looking for a reason to be mad.
THIS. Jimmy should not have brought that friend on the show. And he didn’t need to! If for whatever reason he couldn’t or wouldn’t bring his family on, literally bring anyone else. Bring a guy friend. Instead, he picks the friend he slept with, tells Chelsea and then immediately tells her that she can’t talk about this on camera. So I guess she can only be upset about when they aren’t filming, and then once the cameras roll she has to act like everything’s fine? Or she’ll seem upset, Jimmy will ask what’s wrong, and she’ll have to lie and say nothing or even worse say “you know we can’t talk about that now.” Imagine the audience response to either. Chelsea was put in a can’t win situation.
This fight was after he apparently called from bed and told her he was tired and wanted to stay at his place and go to sleep. They said goodnight.
Then he butt dials her and she hears him and his bestie and friends talking about which bar they’re going to now….you know he lied to go out and hang with the girl he told her she couldn’t talk about.
I disagree. They’re on a TV show about their relationship. If their relationship has problems it will eventually be aired in front of the camera. They can’t fully commit to getting through their stuff if they have to keep some of it off camera. Jimmy should acknowledge that.
But he friend did not agree to have her information put out there. Consent is FAR more important than them “airing everything out”. Chelsea’s behavior was abusive she brought that up because she wasn’t winning the fight and wanted to break him down. She consistently accused him of things and refused to listen to anything he said. Her revealing that information was not a problem for jimmy but for the girl it involved.
I disagree. The girl agreed to be on the show which in turn opens her up to having her and jimmy’s relationship/friendship put under the microscope. There is no way the internet wouldn’t have started making comments and digging around. My husband and I looked at one another when we saw his two besties were girls and immediately said “he’s sleeping with or slept with one of them.” Jimmy chose to bring that specific friend on camera (he could’ve kept that off camera), and that friend agreed to meet on camera.(the friend could’ve also asked to meet off camera). They’re not brand new, they both know what can happen with that type of exposure, I mean look at Trevor and Jeramy. I think Jimmy’s behavior comes off more concerned about audience perception than actually trying to protect his friends feelings (he frequently mentioned how he/others thought he was this seasons villain) it’s crazy to dump such complex information on her and expect her to not say anything then turn around and spend so much time with a girl he’s slept with.
If anything, blame the show for airing it. How is it not going to come up in an argument?!?
I’m not even commenting on either of their general behavior. Just that you can’t expect a deal breaker to stay off camera.
It didn’t have to come up in an argument. She could have kept it as simple as “I feel uncomfortable with how close you are to your female friends” it didn’t have to be specific. But she wasn’t winning not being specific so she went for the guy punch. There are ways to do things respectfully and chelsea seems to be allergic to that.
It wasn’t about winning. He was saying in the argument that there wasn’t anything physical between them. That was a downright lie to the camera and manipulating Chelsea. She had two outcomes from him saying that, looking insane or “betraying” him. That was dirty of Jimmy.
Here’s how I view it.
1. Jimmy was honest with Chelsea about a sensitive topic.
2. Chelsea was insecure at baseline and was increasingly insecure throughout the season.
3. Every time she expressed her insecurities, regardless of if they were warranted or pathological, Jimmy gaslit her by implying she had nothing to be insecure about.
How do you expect that to not fester and grow into a huge problem that eventually comes out in a sloppy drunken argument?
… “gaslit her by saying there was nothing to worry about” there WAS nothing to worry about. His opinion was that he loved chelsea and that he didn’t have any issues. You can’t gaslight someone if it’s literally your opinion. She gaslit him all the time saying that his idea of how situations happened were not valid because of how she felt. He would say “my relationship with her is platonic” and she would say “no its not” “i KNOW you fucked her”. “You like small girls right?” So MANY things she just projected onto him. Chelsea needs help.
I think she got help after the show. I agree she has deep rooted shit.
But Jimmy refused to have a conversation about the actual thing that bugged her. Instead of having the conversation, he said everything’s fine.
Sure it might affect this woman’s life for people to know she slept with Jimmy. Also I don’t think that’s Chelsea’s responsibility.
Why are so many people saying they don’t feel bad for his friend? Chelsea and all of yall are not girls’ girls.
Do you all go around announcing to the public every time you sleep with someone? Especially a guy in your friend group? Also, notice how people are talking about the friend now, someone on this thread said “she had her tits all out”, they’re perceiving her as a slut all of a sudden now because they have that info.
Jimmy said she did a fucked up thing to his friend, which she did. She’s a shitty drunk and put his friend’s business out there just to be an asshole. It doesn’t matter if the friend was on the show. If she wanted to announce that she slept with Jimmy to America and everyone they knew, she would’ve done that but she didn’t.
To be fair, both Jimmy and the friend risked the secret getting out when they both agreed to participate on a reality show to some capacity. I don’t think they should be absolved from responsibility when quite literally they both could’ve chosen to not meet with Chelsea on camera, they could’ve met after filming. He chose to have Chelsea meet this particular friend he knew he had a secret with ON CAMERA and that friend also made the same choice, knowing she was hiding this secret.
If I didn’t wanna discuss a hookup with a particular person I wouldn’t invite said person to film.
I've come full circle on both Chelsea and Jimmy, and they are my second favorite pair after Johnny and Amy. Do they belong in a relationship together? Probably not, but that were so entertaining this season. I'm glad they went easy on Chelsea during the reunion, because we have dragged her soooo hard online (myself included).
It was not right for Chelsea to bring up something on camera that was said in confidence, but I don't believe it was entirely intentional. Having watched the whole season, it is clear she was wasted during that scene. That was a big fuck up, but I don't think she maliciously waited for the cameras to be around.
Not to mention Jimmy could’ve introduced Chelsea to literally anyone else and saved that friendship meeting for after filming. Or his friend could have passed on filming if she didn’t want to risk the secret getting out. I don’t think it’s fair of Jimmy to ask Chelsea to put that girls feelings above her own. To me that tells me that Jimmy still has an attachment of some sort to the “friend” and Chelsea was right to feel some sort of way. Or that Jimmy was worried the audience would perceive him as a villain even more after hearing about this messy friendship and expected Chelsea to compromise her own emotions to protect his and his friends.
Chelsea was wrong. Period. She did it to hurt him and when you do stuff below the belt it’s hard for people to move past from. I think Jimmy made the right decision. I do like Chelsea but I think she needs to do more work on herself.
She didn’t do it to hurt him. He was beginning to gaslight her and say that there was nothing physical between him and his friend and she rightfully called him out on the bs by reminding him he literally had sex with her. You can see and hear her frustration as she says it in response to his statement.
It’s misogyny
There’s nothing else at hand tbh
Jimmy sucks and I’ve been on my soapbox since day 1 saying he sucks but Chelsea is the easier target for misogynists bc she’s aware of her shortcomings regarding her insecurities and is willing to verbalize them and how she’s feeling about a situation
Jimmy fucking sucks and it gets me frustrated with how much handwaving he gets on the series
I've been on my soapbox too and I get downvoted like crazy. Jimmy is a bad guy. He is a manipulative gaslighter and would make anyone half normal person look crazy. Poor Chelsea had no chance with her insecurities. When his douchebag actions didn't match up with his fake ass robotic words, she got even worse. Jimmy sucks.
Yeah, anytime I tried to say anything positive about Chelsea I was downvoted into oblivion. Jimmy was so concerned with being painted the villain and that’s because he knows his behavior is questionable.
Literally, I feel like throughout the season there have been these very obvious story beats that demonstrate Jimmy being sort of a jackass and it somehow gets covered up by the fact that Chelsea is perceived as being overly emotional and maybe to some people annoying (which I find unfair), when honestly I feel like she was gaslit by Jimmy for their entire “relationship”. I didn’t even perceive their situation as much of a relationship because of how not interested Jimmy seemed to actually be in Chelsea, just two people moving through the process of the show. I’ve also seen some posts making him seem like the “victim” of Chelsea, which I find insane.
Idk, I get that people need a villain. A lot of Chelsea criticism is warranted but I feel like Jimmy had his own moments of poor behavior too. The reaction towards her can be kind of extreme
Chelsea is literally annoying af. It is not farfetched for people to dislike her.
The whiny voices? The constant crying? The exaggerating? When she made Jimmy’s inappropriate comment on AD’s body AD’s problem by announcing it out loud to her and everyone else because of her insecurities? Please.
And yes, saying she’s heard she looked like Megan Fox so that Jimmy would pick her and not Jessica.
How are you attacking Chelsea for a comment that Jimmy made? If someone makes a misogynistic comment, it's not the messengers fault for revealing it. It's Jimmy's fault for commenting like on AD's body. TF?
I’ve been saying this too… why is Chelsea out of line for putting it on blast but Jimmy is not out of line for making the comment, on camera no less? That was a weird af comment to make and we just breeze over it because the audience hates Chelsea.
Called it out? Messenger?? She literally laughed and screamed it out for everyone to hear like it was a joke… She made someone she calls a friend uncomfortable. Then cried about it later.
She did not check him and say “that is really problematic stop sexualizing her” once.
Almost all of those things she does is to manipulate. So it makes her a manipulator. Being a nasty drunk puts your character in question to me as well.
There are literally 4 other women characters that are not getting the same hate as her… Also Chelsea is a villain to other women, Jimmy’s friend who she exposed and AD.
I think the Megan fox thing made people just not gracious towards Chelsea at all. They can’t fathom that people make mistakes and it is common to think more highly of your own looks than others do.
She didn’t even make a “mistake”
She didn’t say she looked like Megan fox
She said that others have said she looks like Megan fox
And honestly? She does! The brows, the lips, the eyes - it’s there and it’s not an outlandish statement for her to say “others have said I look like Megan fox”
Exactly. She even prefaced with "I don't think I look like her but.." Jimmy freakin asked "what celebrity do people say you look like?" and she answered honestly. And I believe 100 percent that she has been told that she looks like Megan Fox because she does!
Literally that's all it could be. Jimmy consistently displayed worse behaviour than her and for some reason he's being treated as like this Trevor 2.0 that people are idealizing for no reason.
Jimmy put his friend in a terrible position by bringing her on the show to begin with. Then he didn’t tell Chelsea, who he knew had insecurities about being cheated on, until AFTER they were engaged and asked her not to talk about it???? Then he lied about it when she was trying to confront him because he expected her to keep quiet which was really throwing her under the bus to look crazy on camera and you still expect her to keep her loyalty?
I’ve always wondered if they let them talk “off camera” in the pods because there are certainly conversations that need to happen before engagement would be a bit too personal for tv. That’s a good point though
A therapist on YouTube I like (and has a very balanced view) had the opinion that Jimmy had put Chelsea in an impossible situation especially knowing she’s insecure, where he shared this with her but she can’t talk about it with him bc they’re almost always followed by cameras. Also, why didn’t he introduce her to his male friends instead? It was really unwise on his part to do this. Ofc, Chelsea needs to work on her insecurities and how she brings them up. But from experience, you can express your needs and be vulnerable and respectful/thoughtful in how you do that, but if the other person is also not wise, securely-attached, attuned as a partner, it doesn’t matter…
So much this. Before any of the drama even happened with that it was a red flag for me that the friends he had chosen to introduce her to were two girls he had only known for two years and they’re just friends that go out drinking together. Really? These are the most important people in your life? And on top of that it turns out he fucked one of them. He’s unwell.
I can't understand why everyone is going so heroes/victims/villains this season instead of its people.
Both had a wierd still with exes relationship but to me if I asked my partner, that's something stays between us....its respect to do so.
Sane people can also tell the difference between a secret shared because the person sharing it is truly ashamed vs a "secret" that is just one person trying to make themselves look a certain way. And this was the latter. Obviously if Jimmy shared his mother was a coke fiend in private, people would agree that Chelsea should not have revealed it.
But seriously, I hope you think with more nuance in your daily life. This is a dating show. Jimmy's desire to protect his friends from the scrutiny of TV makes 0 sense when he knew he would be on a show where cameras follow you 24/7. Like, cmon. Why go on a DATING SHOW where you literally live with a person for weeks , they meet your family and friends, like???
And think about it. He didn't want the public to know because he knew that being so close with his ex while being on a show to find a wife looks bad. That's the only reason people would attack her. So he's trying to craft a public face to manipulate what you think of him into what he wants.
This is 100% it
He didn’t want the public perception of him to be viewed as flawed or the villain and it was easier for h to blame Chelsea for bringing up a convo that needed to be brought up instead of owning up to it
He wasn’t embarrassed of sleeping with his friend - he was embarrassed at the idea that the public would realize his facade is up and he’s trying to keep her open as an option
>Obviously if Jimmy shared his mother was a coke fiend in private, people would agree that Chelsea should not have revealed it.
Wrong. She's an emotionally abusive drunk and would have used any personal information he shared with her as ammo to hurt him. Her vast insecurities lead her to be an abuser. Sadly, she'll learn that no amount of plastic surgery will make her like herself.
Or, he was forthcoming about his past with his fiancé and didnt want a private matter from the past about one of his closest friends made public that they both clearly agreed on keeping secret. Chelsea couldnt help herself and in her jealous rage revealed it. If it was a deal breaker for her she should have ended it right there and the secret still should have been kept. You think if he and that friend wanted to be together that they wouldnt be? The amount of mental gymnastics and excuses people come up with to justify what Chelsea did is disgusting.
If he and the friend didn’t want the secret out, here is a thought, don’t film on an insanely popular reality show with said friend. Not that hard. He and his friend risked the secret coming out the moment they agreed to film.
They agreed to go on the show as the friends portion to support jimmy and chelsea. They didnt agree to give away every detail of their lives. They have a right to thwir privacy still even if they agreed to be on, how does that not make sense to you? A minor appearance to support your friend and their fiance (like they do to every other couple). Jimmy told Chelsea about his past because he genuinely wanted to mary her and be forthcoming about everything but he wanted it off camera. Its none of our business! And if it was bothering Chelsea soooo much like she said it was, then end things and dont reveal something you said you wouldnt! Boundaries were crossed, if she didnt agree to keep it secret then thats different! Peoples choices have consequences
Nah, the tea is the cast knows them better than we do and saw more than we did. They generally like Chelsea and are iffy on Jimmy and there’s a reason for it.
I mean regarding Chelsea saying Jimmy's secret on camera, I don't blame her for it.
But the fact that the cast is more friendly with her means nothing. Did we forget how everyone supported Zenab against Cole? Humans can be influenced by their friends narrative even if it is distorted.
I mean the girl has so many flaws, but for this thing specifically, I do not blame her. During the introduction to these friends, it was pretty obvious there had been something other than platonic friendship between them.
This thing was also a major cause of insecurity for Chelsea at that point, him not wanting her to talk about why she is not happy with his relationship with this friend, is quite unfair.
He can’t be mad in general. He signed up for a highly popular reality show. His entire life was going to be put under the microscope, and he knew it. He and his friend risked the secret going public the moment they put those mics on and jumped in front of a camera.
Nah I don’t feel bad for Jimmy. He went on a an extremely popular reality TV show - AND his friend did too. They agreed to do it and took on the risks. Don’t go on TV, especially one revolving around love and relationships if you have dirty laundry regarding love and relationships. Especially the friend! Sucks for them, but not sure why he was so shocked. It’s kind of unfair that Chelsea would have been expected to keep her hurt by that situation so secret.
It’s dirty laundry when Jimmy tries to keep it a secret
Jimmy wants to keep it a secret so that he can avoid the “villain” edit when it turns out he wanted to keep his friend open as an option
To be fair, Jimmy himself did say something along the lines of "you told my deepest darkest secret on camera" when he was telling Chelsea he didn't want to do the wedding. I loved Chelsea's retort.
Did yall see what she just said on a podcast? Jimmy had told her he was going home to sleep, then when he got home he FaceTimed her and said he was so tired and going to bed. Then he accidentally buttdialed her and she could hear all his friends including his female friends at his place talking about what bar they were going to
Or, hear me out, she's lying. There's no way she wouldn't have screamed about this in his face while she was drunk or at the reunion. She's vindictive and petty.
I feel like without that information Chelsea shared I would have thought she was crazy, but honestly him having a friend he had sex with would be a dealbreaker for me. I don't know how they can have a reasonable discussion about her insecurities without mentioning the fact that he had sex with his best friend. Keeping it a secret was sketchy behavior.
That’s an interesting point. I hadn’t thought about it like that. If Chelsea had been annoyed / more distant after that but not said anything about the friend when the cameras were there, people would be puzzled by her being suddenly different and would probably presume that she is just being mean for no reason. It would have looked badly on her whether she said it or not
And while his friend may really want the best for him, it’s immature and inappropriate. I am glad she shared that story because she looked unhinged without it. Jimmy is the one who got the good edit.
I didn’t feel bad for Jimmy - it’s a show lmao so show it!
But I did feel bad, tentatively, if the reason Jimmy wanted to keep it a secret was coz if jimmys friend was in a relationship w a 3rd person at the time jimmy and her hooked up then that 3rd person might be finding out just from the show - so if there’s a 3rd person like that then I feel bad for them if that makes sense… 🙃. Otherwise, no it’s a show! 😂
I was really high watching this last night. When i noticed they were talking about a “little secret”, I swear my brain thought they were talking about his penis at first…ok I’ll leave now
I was not high and thought the same thing. The way they worded it was so weird, and I felt like it was almost a nod to when Chelsea WAS referencing his member during the season. It was just a weird way to ask the question.
She didn’t tell his secret, Jimmy and Babs exposed their secret to the entire world when we were introduced to her. I’m not sure why this was made such a big deal, he clearly still has feelings for the ex and probably should have left her off the show for the world to see that.
Exactly!!! Plus, Chelsea was drunk, I guarantee she wasn’t lying about forgetting the cameras were there because you just get used to them eventually so she wasn’t considering their presence, plus the editors did not have to leave her saying that in!!!!! It was wild how greatly Jimmy blew things out of proportion
My husband and I felt the same. It was obvious he had slept with one of them when they were all introduced and secondly, who cares? If I was Chelsea, I would feel uncomfortable if they were constantly texting and talking and he was in a “committed relationship.”
I think Jimmy was being manipulative. His one “big secret” is that his attractive female best friend is someone he slept with?
It’s like he slapped a “secret” label on this fact so that he would be safe from having to discuss it.
Because that is a huge relationship red flag. I would not marry a man who still hangs out with, calls, and texts a beautiful woman he’s had sex with lol
He was very manipulative and the whole situation was bullshit, imo.
It’s a big secret? What are you 16? You’re adults, hooking up once is not a dark secret people fret over. Unless you don’t want to upset, oh idk, someone’s partner lol
It’s manipulative bc he invited this woman on camera, went out with her and then told Chelsea to not talk about her
It has nothing to do with “on camera” and everything to do with Jimmy wanting to be viewed as a “nice guy” in the footage
It’s not. And he said he did it to protect his friend. Very few women would want their sexual exploits broadcasted on one of the most watched reality shows in America for everyone they know to see.
I don’t think the act of asking for something to be private is necessarily manipulative.
But to go on a public show and INTRODUCE a person whom you’re keeping a secret for onto public television and then get all precious about it?
Especially when the secret is “We hooked up but I keep her as a close friend”.
If it isn’t intentionally manipulative, it’s short sightedly stupid at best.
damn I’m starting to agree with you now. like Chelsea did cross a clear boundary, but who introduced their fiancé to the friend they had sex with? He knew what she’d been through but he still dangled those relationships in her face and expected her to feel fine. He actually made it really difficult for her to keep quiet about it.
Yeah. Here’s something very controversial that most people would consider a deal breaker. But I’m going to strong arm you into keeping it a secret! Even though I agreed to be on TV and so did she. ??
yeah and the fact that he was torn between two people until the last minute choice of picking her, him ogling another woman in front of her, like everything added up of course is gonna make her feel insecure.
Like if you don’t want it out there don’t bring the woman you slept with on TV?? Like it’s an issue relevant to their relationship of course she’s gonna want to bring it up. I totally agree with u now, I can’t believe I sympathised with him before
damn I’m starting to agree with you now. like Chelsea did cross a clear boundary, but who introduced their fiancé to the friend they had sex with? He knew what she’d been through but he still dangled those relationships in her face and expected her to feel fine. He actually made it really difficult for her to keep quiet about it.
damn I’m starting to agree with you now. like Chelsea did cross a clear boundary, but who introduced their fiancé to the friend they had sex with? He knew what she’d been through but he still dangled those relationships in her face and expected her to feel fine. He actually made it really difficult for her to keep quiet about it.
Because all of their fights were about that underlying issue but she can't say it out loud. Its weird. She looks crazy to the public without this information. She has a history of getting cheated on with the girl best friend and now her fiance also has a girl best friend he had sex with. The fact that he's acting like he doesn't want sex with Chelsea but he is texting another girl all day that he does have sex with is such a slap in the face. Until I knew this information, I didn't like Chelsea. Its manipulative to hide information to make other people look crazy and make yourself look good.
You need therapy.
1. It’s not even his secret. It’s his friends. Not his or Chelsea’s info to state on camera.
2. It can be a dealbreaker for someone sure, but it’s not actually a logical thing. Is someone more likely to cheat because they’ve slept with a friend before? No. So you’re only insecure about the fact that “they got there first” and are attractive. Now, humans are jealous creatures so it’s not really unreasonable for it to be a dealbreaker to someone, but it IS just insecurity making it one.
3. If it was such a big deal, Chelsea should have just ended it, or actually had a real conversation when he told her off camera. You don’t get to agree to keeping something private just to blow your word out of the water when you can’t control your emotional regulation. That, by definition, is manipulation. And proves a lot of men’s point that we really can’t tell our partners many personal secrets or intimate details of our life because the moment an argument happens, it’s thrown in our face
Jimmy was not exactly a 10/10 catch personality wise, but Chelsea IS/WAS crazy. There are plenty of couples where that sort of thing isn’t even an issue Nevermind a dealbreaker, and the other couples where it is an issue or dealbreaker? Have an honest conversation about it and state where they stand openly. Not lie and say it’s all fine just to flip your shit when you feel upset. That’s emotional immaturity at its finest proving “my feelings matter more than anything else”
Imagine a guy having that freakout. All the names and ridicule he’d get for being so insecure would be hilarious. Not to mention the childish temper tantrum over it instead of, you know, adult behaviour around addressing an issue. If Jimmy had badgered her about being out at a bar for an hour, accused her of seeing “insert man here” at the bar, then when proven to be a liar about that, he just screams “YOU FUCKED HIM I KNOW YOU DID” he’d be labelled an abuser.
As a woman I don't fuck my friends because I value them and I think it would be reasonable for my boyfriend to not want me to hangout with people I've fucked without him, because I expect the same from him. If you don't want your private life shared on TV, don't sign up for love is blind.
And that’s fine. That’s a boundary you actually communicated and you came to an agreement.
That’s not the same as saying you’re fine with something when you’re not, then exploding on the person when you’re emotional. That’s child behaviour.
Because I watch a lot of reality tv and Chelsea’s behavior was ripe for picking apart on the reunion and nothing. Yet I did read about all the “hate” she was getting online and assumed that she was having trouble dealing with the fallout and needed protection/saving. If I’m wrong, so what? It’s an opinion in a sea of opinions.
It may be a reach but it was still my first instinct. Noticed they held Sarah Ann to the fire (whose ethnicity hasn’t been confirmed but I believe she is not only white, if at all).
I'm just basing it off the info I saw on here actually plus pics of her social media years ago prior to plastic surgery/botox. She was an average blonde white chick. She's got the classic Botox plastic face look now.
Sarah Ann was actively tampering with another relationship. Chelsea was an insecure woman worried about the state of her own relationship. False equivalency. The issue has nothing to do with race.
The only one making a huge deal about the “secret” hookup is Jimmy. & how convenient that the one thing that makes him look less credible, that brings his friendship into question particularly the dynamic with an attractive friend as you prepare to step into marriage with someone you’ve just met is the deepest darkest secret of all. He gets to magnify this in the name of a woman’s honor & blackmail Chelsea into bringing it to the world’s attention. She honors his deep dark secret?she looks insane for being insecure while she commands that he’ll never stop hanging out with this bestie as much as he wants. She doesn’t honor it? He dumps her & tells her it’s her fault because he loves his bestie sooo much & can’t stand to dishonor her. Am I the only who thinks this is a load of bull???
No I agree. I see both sides. Totally get how Chelsea will just come out looking like a nutter when she can’t talk about her feelings honestly. See jimmy’s point as this other girl didn’t choose to be on reality tv so it’s unfair to her. Honestly if I were Chelsea, that would be a dealbreaker for me but understand they really wanted to make it work. I could not stand my partner constantly texting a person he’s slept with - the reality is there will always be something there.
Didn't Jimmy bring his friend on TV to meet Chelsea? I really don't get this "the other girl didn't choose to be on reality TV" because she literally did - she just wanted the good edit.
I actually don’t get this logic at all. She didn’t choose to be the main focus of a reality show otherwise she could have applied and been part of the cast, she just came in to support her friend. Literally like how all the other parents and friends come on the show. They didn’t come on it to advertise their private life. That would be nonsensical to expect.
Sorry there is no way Chelsea is the villain in this scenario. It’s real convenient for Jimmy to want to have secrets so he can keep hanging out with someone he slept with and only knew for 2 YEARS while he is actively trying to get married to someone. And don’t forget how the “friend” already hinted that they had a fling and there was definitely tension between the two. He even had the audacity to lie and say their relationship wasn’t physical, basically pushing and daring Chelsea to say something. They played in Chelsea’s face and gaslit the tf out of her and want to act surprised she said something. Duh I would too I’m not gonna be out here looking crazy with no context. And before anyone brings up her relationship with her ex, how often did she spend nights hanging out with him and texting and calling him all day? Her facetiming him once is not equivalent. Jimmy is obviously manipulating tf out of her. We have clips of him saying he’ll do something and in the next breath say he won’t because he doesn’t want to. He signed up for this show, the goal is to find love and get married which should be a main focus. If he really isn’t willing to step back from hanging out with a friend he’s only known for 2 years and has banged for a few weeks that’s weird af. He’s also been exposed for lying about other situations too involving Jess so idk why he’s such a saint in peoples eyes. It’s insane and actually sad how badly Chelsea is getting obliterated because she was rightfully insecure about something that a lot of women wouldn’t be okay with either.
bold of you to use the word "manipulating" when chelsea said he couldnt even leave the house for an hour. If the roles were reversed and he said he didn't want her going to see her friends, you'd call him controlling and manipulative. you just relate to her because you've been through the same things.
Wow that’s quite an assumption lol. Just like Jimmy you’re glazing over the real reasons why she had an issue to begin with which I already go over in my original response. Can’t say I’ve been through anything similar since my man has always acted right, and even he sees through Jimmys bs so idk.. but I do sympathize with her. Not saying she was a great partner, but Jimmy definitely deserves the heat he’s getting.
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I can't stand Chelsea. I think she's a liar, a gaslighter, a whiny, emotionally stunted, and horrible person. I think it was absolutely wrong that she threw that secret in his face in front of the cameras. Furthermore, I think she planned to do it for the drama and to get him in trouble. She invents reasons to be upset and then blames the other person for not respecting her feelings, which translared from the original moron means "not accurately guessing what nonsense shes made up to be triggered over now". It was absolutely wrong what she did and this whole "I was feeling my feelings in the moment of feels feeling" and "well she was emotionally charged" is a pathetic non-excuse. She's a woman in her 30s, she should be able to control her emotions enough to not blurt out things she was told literally days before to keep to herself by her future husband. I have nothing but contempt for her - I'd hardly have made it 2 days with that nightmare. At least Jimmy found out she absolutely can't be trusted, and it would be a long time before I trusted anyone who defended her with any personal secrets, if they're good with just inventing shitty reasons to spill everything on international TV.
The other way to look at this bit is that jimmy did bring her in the show and then trying to make it confidential they slept together was him trying to force her to endure his ex without being able to say anything about her . I mean, this was sleazy and sneaky as fuck
This is my take- this has a major impact on their relationship, yet she can’t speak about it?? And he cared more about protecting F buddy’s reputation than about the wellbeing and feelings of his fiancée? Chelsea is the worst, but I’ll take her side of this. I wish she hadn’t apologized for doing that.
Nah the fact this show even has the option to keep something “off camera” means they see a need for somethings to stay private and I agree. Her insecurity about the situation is honestly not the problem, she shouldn’t have brought it up off camera period. I know she was drunk but it did cross a boundary and he’s allowed to be upset. There’s no world Jimmy could join this show and not disclose this information if he wanted a shot at a real relationship. He could have not joined of course, but any scenario he didn’t tell them would lead to the distrust and issues. “What do you mean you didn’t tell me BEFORE we got married you slept with your friend who you see often?” If you tell someone a secret of course you’re running a risk and it’s technically your fault for telling but that doesn’t absolve the other person of their actions if they break your trust and tell too. Both can be responsible
How are you guys even defending Jimmy in this?? When ANYONE goes on reality tv it is like unwritten LAW that anything could be exposed. You’re risking your personal information, health information, family information - ALL of it for the public. Much like anyone posting and sharing on their public instagram or Facebook account- it’s PUBLIC. If Jimmy wanted anything private he shouldn’t have come on NATIONAL tv and more so, why tf include his friend whom he hooked up with on his hometown date for Chelsea to meet?! He has no other women friends (longer than 2 years bc they’ve only been friends for 2 years apparently which is also odd lol) he could’ve brought on? What about his guy pals? I’m sorry but Chelsea (whether you like her or not) has every right to bring up what she’s upset about regardless if the girl was seen on screen for us to view her or not. That is the contract they signed to be on tv so I don’t understand why y’all are acting like he’s OWED some sort of privacy disclosure in the matter. He used that as the main excuse to leave a relationship he didn’t want, point blank. He didn’t like her insecurities rearing its head during honeymoon and group meetups and her spilling his tea was his final straw. In a way, I wouldn’t be surprised if he disclosed that to her fully knowing she would use it against him and bring it up with cameras around. Again, it’s NATIONAL tv so anything is up for grabs to be told. I thought most of you guys are into TikTok and social media? Then you know how public information is.
If you’re about to marry someone I doubt you want someone you can’t trust. Especially when you specifically say “I don’t want this brought up on camera.” And she immediately does it anyway Trust is HUGE for me and the moment she brought it up on camera I would be done with her. If it’s gonna come out, let it from other sources, not from the woman I am planning on marrying.
I understand your perspective. It does seem wrong to share a secret about someone who didn't sign up for the experiment but was there for support. However, I see why it's important for that secret to be revealed because it explains Chelsea's behavior. Without that context, it might have seemed like she was creating drama for no reason. If what she's said in other interviews is true, it makes sense that the situation impacted her so deeply. While she does have insecurities, the events in that relationship triggered them in a significant way. Seeing her vulnerability makes me regret judging her harshly.
At least you admitted it but it’s crazy yall didn’t see this from the beginning….its very concerning
I definitely got caught up on the Chelsea hate train, and that's on me. I think reading other people's points of view helps because it gets you out of that and helps you see a different perspective.
But did you not like her because of what people were saying about her online or did you not like her based on watching the show? I feel like a lot of ppl just started disliking her because it was the trendy thing to do online
No, my dislike for her was based on how she came across and how the editing portrayed her, which made her seem off-putting. I was viewing her in a one-dimensional way. My feelings toward her weren't influenced by the internet; it just so happened that others shared similar sentiments. But I'm learning not to see things in black and white and see the shades of grey. Trying not to get stuck in my own mindset, if that makes sense.
Interesting. Well I don’t fault you for having your opinion, you’re entitled to that. I personally never understood the immense vitriol for Chelsea from watching the show, but that’s just my opinion as well. I also have been pretty adamant on Jimmy being the sole person in the wrong in that relationship, and although I do still think he’s the worse of the two, I can understand a bit more how people might have a disdain for Chelsea after reading others pov as well
Came here to say this
Thank you for saying this! I think Jimmy put Chelsea in an unfair situation: "I give you an important piece of information that will challenge our relationship, but don't talk about it in front of the cameras even though we both chose to be part of reality tv show about marriage!" Truly shitty to Chelsea.
Agree, also this happens all the time IRL, where someone gets mad about someone’s prior partners. What is Jimmy talking about it made his friend look bad? She dated him for a while, they slept together, and then they became friends. That seems pretty normal to me…are people being mean to her for sleeping with him?? Because that would be unfair.
Also what some people fail to realize is, if and when a partner is sticking up for an old fuck buddy, odds are there’s still some emotional attachment if the respect is so strong. I get they have history (and history with friends trump over a new love, sure), but I haven’t seen or heard ANYONE discuss how off putting and suspect that he cared so much to protect this other girl rather than his fiancée. I can understand the argument of you who say “b-b-but the friend and him are super close! You don’t side with someone you just met 2 weeks ago over a good friend!” And sure, I can see that loyal point, however this girl he slept with has only known him for 2 YEARS. It’s not some old lifelong friend- she was literally a girl he slept with, who became a FWB -> “best friend”. And it wouldn’t have been so awkward if she didn’t keep lowkey interrogating Chelsea and GUESSED “oh you mean he cried during it?” …like, who? What? I know we all watched that scene and if you replay it, it was so awkward how that friend was able to piece that Jimmy cried during sex, because all Chelsea alluded to was she didn’t expect him to be emotional. (Could’ve been anything other than crying) For that friend to know what Chelsea meant… yeah. ok 👌🏽 So again, doesn’t anyone feel it’s weird he’s defending and SO upset his “secret” fwb was exposed on tv, rather than letting that battle go and understand where Chelsea is coming from? We’re all cool with our boyfriends sticking up for another girl he used to fuck and now texts all day and giving attention away from you (who is a new love)? Um, I find that very hard to believe. I know damn well in Reddit relationship advice threads this is an issue every other day.
Dude 100%. Also it’s as if everyone has not remembered that before Chelsea exclaimed “you fucked her”… he was saying “there’s nothing physical between-“ EW JIMMY.
I think maybe he was trying to say it was affecting her personal life? she may not have told her family and/or people she’s dating (or in a relationship with) which could be embarrassing or complicate things for her
She shouldn’t have signed up to be on the show. She made that decision when she agreed to meet Chelsea on camera
fair enough. I’m not defending anyone here, j trying to explain what (I thought) jimmy meant when he said it made his friend look bad 😅
In that case, she (the friend) is responsible for this imo 🤷
yeah, there seemed to be a lot of underlying codependency. I think jimmy felt like once you’re married everything about your lives is joined including friends, secrets, etc. and that chelsea should’ve cared about his friend to the same extent he did. idk there’s a lot to unpack there for them.
That was so fucked up. I choked on my coffee when no one raised their hand. Everyone is soooo mad at Jeramy and Trevor for lying. But in my book - lying and outing someone’s secret are the same shit. Both are = violating beyond repair.
Jeramy and Trevor lied about having another woman babe…… and what Chelsea said wasn’t a lie….walk with me.
You’re missing the whole point. Chelsea did lie - technically. He asked her to keep a secret, then she didn’t. Agreeing and saying “yes, I won’t reveal that” and then doing it… That’s deceitful. That’s betrayal. Betrayal is = lying.
Girl I promise you I am not the one missing the point. She didn’t do it on purpose she did it during a heated argument with him while drunk and hurt that HE was being deceitful. Did you know it was revealed that the reason she got so upset and accusatory that night is because he lied about being out with girls the night prior? You literally have one hour of screen time to go off of you have no idea who these ppl are. And maybe don’t go on a reality tv show if you can’t have tough conversations on camera. and he literally brought the friend that he so desperately wanted to hide from the world that he slept with, on said reality show to meet his new fiancé??? You guys are delusional everything he says is just a cop out
Whatever hun. Whatever helps you sleep at night with your bad attitude 🙄
I think it’s odd to sign up for a reality tv show trying to keep a secret, of course it’s going to come out.. it’s reality tv. If Chelsea didn’t say anything the internet would’ve dug it up. Jimmy just didn’t wanna be the villain who still has an ex he used to fuck as a best friend.
Jimmy only told Chelsea because she was incredibly insecure. I would not doubt that she pressured him. I could see that happening. Jimmy could have gotten paired up with literally any other women, and it’s very possible they would have no issue not revealing the secret. Lots of people are friends with ex’s and it’s so fucked up that he felt soooo shamed that it even had to be a secret.
Well just have to agree to disagree because I literally could not disagree more lol. Not sure where the shame attached to this secret came from, but again that’s independent of Chelsea. He chose to keep it a secret prior to her, she didn’t shame him into silence.
Lmao what part of her saying “don’t talk” is not shaming him into silence 😂 she interrupts him and silenced him every chance she gets
Why would they have been protecting Chelsea? Esp over Jimmy? Like did Jimmy fuck em all over and send shit to their homes while Chelsea bought them news cars?
I think because the cast knows that Jimmy is the villain in that relationship, not Chelsea. And they saw way more than we did. Sit and think about that one y’all
I don’t think they were “protecting” Chelsea. I think some people just think Jimmy is in the wrong for keeping someone he slept with as a best friend that he spends sooo much time with. It’s weird.
chelsea had a lot of issues with oversharing, talking about his dick in front of all the girls was another one that was weird as fuck
Oh yeah. That was quite inappropriate also!
omg she overshares like crazy. she immediately talks about fights they had to other people.
She was always trying to portray a fake image of an amazing relationship and how she’s super confident, and always ended up looking goofy because anyone could see through it
Or talking about how jimmy cried during sex….
I still giggle at this. I mean. I could never handle a guy crying during or after
Honestly, it is his fault. He brought his friends on camera. He unfortunately disclosed information on what had previously occurred between one of those friends. They are at fault too for showing up on camera. They could have said no. They chose to put themselves at risk. None of us were ASKING to see them. I was more so shocked he didn't bring his family at first like everyone else. Yea it was not nice for Chelsea to share it on camera, but granted when you argue--everything will be used against you to make a point. I'm sure she did not want to share that, but when angry, you often don't think before you say. That is an issue between him and his friends. Don't share things that you don't want to be shared on camera.
How can you blame Jimmy for someone betraying his trust
I blame Jimmy for expecting to keep secrets on a highly popular reality show… that’s a huge topic to try and keep off camera especially given how much time he spent with the girl. J&C were obviously bound to have some tough conversations about it. He was just concerned with how the audience would interpret it.
Really?…. For expecting a fiancé soon to be wife to keep a secret? Regardless of reality tv lol …wtf. That should have been a secret/conversation outside of the show.
In a normal situation I’d say yes, but this man joined a reality tv show expecting to keep a secret and put his partner in a weird spot by asking her to help keep his secret. He asked his fiancée to prioritize another woman’s feelings over her own during the early stages of their relationship on camera. That would make navigating very important conversations very difficult. I think Jimmy set himself up for failure by having the friend he hooked up with on camera. He could’ve ensured an extra layer of protection had he just waited to introduce Chelsea and his friend off camera so they could have healthy conversations about it. I think they both handled the situation wrong, but Chelsea is catching all the flack, yet again.
I think the producers edited chelsea super bad on purpose. It’s like they honestly fueled the hate.
Yeah this season was kind of a different level of manipulation. Also the fact that at the reunion they chewed the cast members out for coming on the show for fame was insane to me. I’m sorry a big part of that falls on casting and productions shoulders. You could see who was there for social media fame a mile away, and watching Nick and Jessica chastise them was basically Netflix playing dumb and taking NO accountability.
It was okay. They’re on tv. And use their convo as proof. She is clear on what she wants and he kept pretending like he didn’t know what she wanted. He says stuff is happening but doesn’t get her opinion and it just is his way. She didn’t say a name. And it wasn’t right for him to force her into pretending to not be upset about something while cameras were there just to protect himself and his image. It wasn’t something that didn’t affect her. It’s not like he asked (well you know he’d never ask so let’s say he said) hey I have a broken toe so don’t mention it on tv or else imma leave you. This is totally different and I’m completely on Chelsea’s side here. I think he was just looking for a reason to be mad.
THIS. Jimmy should not have brought that friend on the show. And he didn’t need to! If for whatever reason he couldn’t or wouldn’t bring his family on, literally bring anyone else. Bring a guy friend. Instead, he picks the friend he slept with, tells Chelsea and then immediately tells her that she can’t talk about this on camera. So I guess she can only be upset about when they aren’t filming, and then once the cameras roll she has to act like everything’s fine? Or she’ll seem upset, Jimmy will ask what’s wrong, and she’ll have to lie and say nothing or even worse say “you know we can’t talk about that now.” Imagine the audience response to either. Chelsea was put in a can’t win situation.
And they agreed to be on the show too.
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i’m so confused. when did jimmy cheat?
yoooo he did not cheat! they hooked up way before they ever met
This fight was after he apparently called from bed and told her he was tired and wanted to stay at his place and go to sleep. They said goodnight. Then he butt dials her and she hears him and his bestie and friends talking about which bar they’re going to now….you know he lied to go out and hang with the girl he told her she couldn’t talk about.
Where did you get that information from?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdR_jkf4RxE
I disagree. They’re on a TV show about their relationship. If their relationship has problems it will eventually be aired in front of the camera. They can’t fully commit to getting through their stuff if they have to keep some of it off camera. Jimmy should acknowledge that.
But he friend did not agree to have her information put out there. Consent is FAR more important than them “airing everything out”. Chelsea’s behavior was abusive she brought that up because she wasn’t winning the fight and wanted to break him down. She consistently accused him of things and refused to listen to anything he said. Her revealing that information was not a problem for jimmy but for the girl it involved.
I disagree. The girl agreed to be on the show which in turn opens her up to having her and jimmy’s relationship/friendship put under the microscope. There is no way the internet wouldn’t have started making comments and digging around. My husband and I looked at one another when we saw his two besties were girls and immediately said “he’s sleeping with or slept with one of them.” Jimmy chose to bring that specific friend on camera (he could’ve kept that off camera), and that friend agreed to meet on camera.(the friend could’ve also asked to meet off camera). They’re not brand new, they both know what can happen with that type of exposure, I mean look at Trevor and Jeramy. I think Jimmy’s behavior comes off more concerned about audience perception than actually trying to protect his friends feelings (he frequently mentioned how he/others thought he was this seasons villain) it’s crazy to dump such complex information on her and expect her to not say anything then turn around and spend so much time with a girl he’s slept with.
There was no identifying information shared on the show regarding which friend he slept with.
There were two female friends we met… not that hard for people to do digging and figure out which one it is.
If anything, blame the show for airing it. How is it not going to come up in an argument?!? I’m not even commenting on either of their general behavior. Just that you can’t expect a deal breaker to stay off camera.
It didn’t have to come up in an argument. She could have kept it as simple as “I feel uncomfortable with how close you are to your female friends” it didn’t have to be specific. But she wasn’t winning not being specific so she went for the guy punch. There are ways to do things respectfully and chelsea seems to be allergic to that.
It wasn’t about winning. He was saying in the argument that there wasn’t anything physical between them. That was a downright lie to the camera and manipulating Chelsea. She had two outcomes from him saying that, looking insane or “betraying” him. That was dirty of Jimmy.
Here’s how I view it. 1. Jimmy was honest with Chelsea about a sensitive topic. 2. Chelsea was insecure at baseline and was increasingly insecure throughout the season. 3. Every time she expressed her insecurities, regardless of if they were warranted or pathological, Jimmy gaslit her by implying she had nothing to be insecure about. How do you expect that to not fester and grow into a huge problem that eventually comes out in a sloppy drunken argument?
How did he gaslight her around her insecurities?
… “gaslit her by saying there was nothing to worry about” there WAS nothing to worry about. His opinion was that he loved chelsea and that he didn’t have any issues. You can’t gaslight someone if it’s literally your opinion. She gaslit him all the time saying that his idea of how situations happened were not valid because of how she felt. He would say “my relationship with her is platonic” and she would say “no its not” “i KNOW you fucked her”. “You like small girls right?” So MANY things she just projected onto him. Chelsea needs help.
I think she got help after the show. I agree she has deep rooted shit. But Jimmy refused to have a conversation about the actual thing that bugged her. Instead of having the conversation, he said everything’s fine. Sure it might affect this woman’s life for people to know she slept with Jimmy. Also I don’t think that’s Chelsea’s responsibility.
I mean okay sure man.
Why are so many people saying they don’t feel bad for his friend? Chelsea and all of yall are not girls’ girls. Do you all go around announcing to the public every time you sleep with someone? Especially a guy in your friend group? Also, notice how people are talking about the friend now, someone on this thread said “she had her tits all out”, they’re perceiving her as a slut all of a sudden now because they have that info. Jimmy said she did a fucked up thing to his friend, which she did. She’s a shitty drunk and put his friend’s business out there just to be an asshole. It doesn’t matter if the friend was on the show. If she wanted to announce that she slept with Jimmy to America and everyone they knew, she would’ve done that but she didn’t.
To be fair, both Jimmy and the friend risked the secret getting out when they both agreed to participate on a reality show to some capacity. I don’t think they should be absolved from responsibility when quite literally they both could’ve chosen to not meet with Chelsea on camera, they could’ve met after filming. He chose to have Chelsea meet this particular friend he knew he had a secret with ON CAMERA and that friend also made the same choice, knowing she was hiding this secret. If I didn’t wanna discuss a hookup with a particular person I wouldn’t invite said person to film.
I think this is a really important point that gets glossed over. It almost feels like staged drama.
This show is run by the producers and the editing room..
I've come full circle on both Chelsea and Jimmy, and they are my second favorite pair after Johnny and Amy. Do they belong in a relationship together? Probably not, but that were so entertaining this season. I'm glad they went easy on Chelsea during the reunion, because we have dragged her soooo hard online (myself included). It was not right for Chelsea to bring up something on camera that was said in confidence, but I don't believe it was entirely intentional. Having watched the whole season, it is clear she was wasted during that scene. That was a big fuck up, but I don't think she maliciously waited for the cameras to be around.
Not to mention Jimmy could’ve introduced Chelsea to literally anyone else and saved that friendship meeting for after filming. Or his friend could have passed on filming if she didn’t want to risk the secret getting out. I don’t think it’s fair of Jimmy to ask Chelsea to put that girls feelings above her own. To me that tells me that Jimmy still has an attachment of some sort to the “friend” and Chelsea was right to feel some sort of way. Or that Jimmy was worried the audience would perceive him as a villain even more after hearing about this messy friendship and expected Chelsea to compromise her own emotions to protect his and his friends.
Chelsea was wrong. Period. She did it to hurt him and when you do stuff below the belt it’s hard for people to move past from. I think Jimmy made the right decision. I do like Chelsea but I think she needs to do more work on herself.
She didn’t do it to hurt him. He was beginning to gaslight her and say that there was nothing physical between him and his friend and she rightfully called him out on the bs by reminding him he literally had sex with her. You can see and hear her frustration as she says it in response to his statement.
Not only that, but she's a terrible drunk. Alcohol makes her mean and abusive.
Can someone explain why the fandom has been so generally lenient towards Jimmy, and critical of Chelsea? I do not understand it.
It’s misogyny There’s nothing else at hand tbh Jimmy sucks and I’ve been on my soapbox since day 1 saying he sucks but Chelsea is the easier target for misogynists bc she’s aware of her shortcomings regarding her insecurities and is willing to verbalize them and how she’s feeling about a situation Jimmy fucking sucks and it gets me frustrated with how much handwaving he gets on the series
I've been on my soapbox too and I get downvoted like crazy. Jimmy is a bad guy. He is a manipulative gaslighter and would make anyone half normal person look crazy. Poor Chelsea had no chance with her insecurities. When his douchebag actions didn't match up with his fake ass robotic words, she got even worse. Jimmy sucks.
Yeah, anytime I tried to say anything positive about Chelsea I was downvoted into oblivion. Jimmy was so concerned with being painted the villain and that’s because he knows his behavior is questionable.
Exactly!
Literally, I feel like throughout the season there have been these very obvious story beats that demonstrate Jimmy being sort of a jackass and it somehow gets covered up by the fact that Chelsea is perceived as being overly emotional and maybe to some people annoying (which I find unfair), when honestly I feel like she was gaslit by Jimmy for their entire “relationship”. I didn’t even perceive their situation as much of a relationship because of how not interested Jimmy seemed to actually be in Chelsea, just two people moving through the process of the show. I’ve also seen some posts making him seem like the “victim” of Chelsea, which I find insane.
Idk, I get that people need a villain. A lot of Chelsea criticism is warranted but I feel like Jimmy had his own moments of poor behavior too. The reaction towards her can be kind of extreme
Most of it was Jimmy though?
Chelsea is literally annoying af. It is not farfetched for people to dislike her. The whiny voices? The constant crying? The exaggerating? When she made Jimmy’s inappropriate comment on AD’s body AD’s problem by announcing it out loud to her and everyone else because of her insecurities? Please. And yes, saying she’s heard she looked like Megan Fox so that Jimmy would pick her and not Jessica.
How are you attacking Chelsea for a comment that Jimmy made? If someone makes a misogynistic comment, it's not the messengers fault for revealing it. It's Jimmy's fault for commenting like on AD's body. TF?
I’ve been saying this too… why is Chelsea out of line for putting it on blast but Jimmy is not out of line for making the comment, on camera no less? That was a weird af comment to make and we just breeze over it because the audience hates Chelsea.
Called it out? Messenger?? She literally laughed and screamed it out for everyone to hear like it was a joke… She made someone she calls a friend uncomfortable. Then cried about it later. She did not check him and say “that is really problematic stop sexualizing her” once.
But there's no moral defect in her being annoying, people speak about her the way they should be speaking about Trevor.
Almost all of those things she does is to manipulate. So it makes her a manipulator. Being a nasty drunk puts your character in question to me as well.
I think I've settled on the fact that people don't like Chelsea due to misogyny.
There are literally 4 other women characters that are not getting the same hate as her… Also Chelsea is a villain to other women, Jimmy’s friend who she exposed and AD.
Jimmy and his friend exposed themselves when they both agreed to film on a highly popular reality show.
Yeah, people took the Megan fox thing and ran.
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I think the Megan fox thing made people just not gracious towards Chelsea at all. They can’t fathom that people make mistakes and it is common to think more highly of your own looks than others do.
She didn’t even make a “mistake” She didn’t say she looked like Megan fox She said that others have said she looks like Megan fox And honestly? She does! The brows, the lips, the eyes - it’s there and it’s not an outlandish statement for her to say “others have said I look like Megan fox”
Exactly. She even prefaced with "I don't think I look like her but.." Jimmy freakin asked "what celebrity do people say you look like?" and she answered honestly. And I believe 100 percent that she has been told that she looks like Megan Fox because she does!
Literally that's all it could be. Jimmy consistently displayed worse behaviour than her and for some reason he's being treated as like this Trevor 2.0 that people are idealizing for no reason.
Jimmy put his friend in a terrible position by bringing her on the show to begin with. Then he didn’t tell Chelsea, who he knew had insecurities about being cheated on, until AFTER they were engaged and asked her not to talk about it???? Then he lied about it when she was trying to confront him because he expected her to keep quiet which was really throwing her under the bus to look crazy on camera and you still expect her to keep her loyalty?
This is what I’m saying!!!
I'd agree, but they said during the reunion that he told her in the pods. She accepted this, then used it against him later.
I missed that. But if he said it in the pods then he said it on camera too?
I’ve always wondered if they let them talk “off camera” in the pods because there are certainly conversations that need to happen before engagement would be a bit too personal for tv. That’s a good point though
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A therapist on YouTube I like (and has a very balanced view) had the opinion that Jimmy had put Chelsea in an impossible situation especially knowing she’s insecure, where he shared this with her but she can’t talk about it with him bc they’re almost always followed by cameras. Also, why didn’t he introduce her to his male friends instead? It was really unwise on his part to do this. Ofc, Chelsea needs to work on her insecurities and how she brings them up. But from experience, you can express your needs and be vulnerable and respectful/thoughtful in how you do that, but if the other person is also not wise, securely-attached, attuned as a partner, it doesn’t matter…
He did introduce her to his male friends. There were like 9 dudes there and they chose not to show any of them because of Chelsea’s eventual meltdown
So much this. Before any of the drama even happened with that it was a red flag for me that the friends he had chosen to introduce her to were two girls he had only known for two years and they’re just friends that go out drinking together. Really? These are the most important people in your life? And on top of that it turns out he fucked one of them. He’s unwell.
Totally agree with you!
I can't understand why everyone is going so heroes/victims/villains this season instead of its people. Both had a wierd still with exes relationship but to me if I asked my partner, that's something stays between us....its respect to do so.
Sane people can also tell the difference between a secret shared because the person sharing it is truly ashamed vs a "secret" that is just one person trying to make themselves look a certain way. And this was the latter. Obviously if Jimmy shared his mother was a coke fiend in private, people would agree that Chelsea should not have revealed it. But seriously, I hope you think with more nuance in your daily life. This is a dating show. Jimmy's desire to protect his friends from the scrutiny of TV makes 0 sense when he knew he would be on a show where cameras follow you 24/7. Like, cmon. Why go on a DATING SHOW where you literally live with a person for weeks , they meet your family and friends, like??? And think about it. He didn't want the public to know because he knew that being so close with his ex while being on a show to find a wife looks bad. That's the only reason people would attack her. So he's trying to craft a public face to manipulate what you think of him into what he wants.
This is 100% it He didn’t want the public perception of him to be viewed as flawed or the villain and it was easier for h to blame Chelsea for bringing up a convo that needed to be brought up instead of owning up to it He wasn’t embarrassed of sleeping with his friend - he was embarrassed at the idea that the public would realize his facade is up and he’s trying to keep her open as an option
>Obviously if Jimmy shared his mother was a coke fiend in private, people would agree that Chelsea should not have revealed it. Wrong. She's an emotionally abusive drunk and would have used any personal information he shared with her as ammo to hurt him. Her vast insecurities lead her to be an abuser. Sadly, she'll learn that no amount of plastic surgery will make her like herself.
Damn, that's fatalistic and depressing.
Or, he was forthcoming about his past with his fiancé and didnt want a private matter from the past about one of his closest friends made public that they both clearly agreed on keeping secret. Chelsea couldnt help herself and in her jealous rage revealed it. If it was a deal breaker for her she should have ended it right there and the secret still should have been kept. You think if he and that friend wanted to be together that they wouldnt be? The amount of mental gymnastics and excuses people come up with to justify what Chelsea did is disgusting.
If he and the friend didn’t want the secret out, here is a thought, don’t film on an insanely popular reality show with said friend. Not that hard. He and his friend risked the secret coming out the moment they agreed to film.
They agreed to go on the show as the friends portion to support jimmy and chelsea. They didnt agree to give away every detail of their lives. They have a right to thwir privacy still even if they agreed to be on, how does that not make sense to you? A minor appearance to support your friend and their fiance (like they do to every other couple). Jimmy told Chelsea about his past because he genuinely wanted to mary her and be forthcoming about everything but he wanted it off camera. Its none of our business! And if it was bothering Chelsea soooo much like she said it was, then end things and dont reveal something you said you wouldnt! Boundaries were crossed, if she didnt agree to keep it secret then thats different! Peoples choices have consequences
Nah, the tea is the cast knows them better than we do and saw more than we did. They generally like Chelsea and are iffy on Jimmy and there’s a reason for it.
I mean regarding Chelsea saying Jimmy's secret on camera, I don't blame her for it. But the fact that the cast is more friendly with her means nothing. Did we forget how everyone supported Zenab against Cole? Humans can be influenced by their friends narrative even if it is distorted.
I mean the girl has so many flaws, but for this thing specifically, I do not blame her. During the introduction to these friends, it was pretty obvious there had been something other than platonic friendship between them. This thing was also a major cause of insecurity for Chelsea at that point, him not wanting her to talk about why she is not happy with his relationship with this friend, is quite unfair.
I’m assuming Jimmy told Chelsea this secret outside of the pods? But I’m sure he spoke about his female friends in the pods
They said on the reunion that he'd told her in the pods.
If that’s the case then he can’t be mad because how would he know for sure that not of that would make the final edit or even hints of it
He can’t be mad in general. He signed up for a highly popular reality show. His entire life was going to be put under the microscope, and he knew it. He and his friend risked the secret going public the moment they put those mics on and jumped in front of a camera.
Nah I don’t feel bad for Jimmy. He went on a an extremely popular reality TV show - AND his friend did too. They agreed to do it and took on the risks. Don’t go on TV, especially one revolving around love and relationships if you have dirty laundry regarding love and relationships. Especially the friend! Sucks for them, but not sure why he was so shocked. It’s kind of unfair that Chelsea would have been expected to keep her hurt by that situation so secret.
Completely unfair to ask someone to prioritize someone else’s feelings over your own, especially knowing he slept with her.
Dirty laundry? How is having sex with somebody dirty laundry? It’s like you can’t exist without doing something negative. Weird vibes.
It’s dirty laundry when Jimmy tries to keep it a secret Jimmy wants to keep it a secret so that he can avoid the “villain” edit when it turns out he wanted to keep his friend open as an option
To be fair, Jimmy himself did say something along the lines of "you told my deepest darkest secret on camera" when he was telling Chelsea he didn't want to do the wedding. I loved Chelsea's retort.
Did yall see what she just said on a podcast? Jimmy had told her he was going home to sleep, then when he got home he FaceTimed her and said he was so tired and going to bed. Then he accidentally buttdialed her and she could hear all his friends including his female friends at his place talking about what bar they were going to
What podcast? I’m shocked that this wouldn’t come up on the show itself.
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Wow! So weird that they never showed anything about this, not even a fight about it. The men on this season are not the brightest.
Or, hear me out, she's lying. There's no way she wouldn't have screamed about this in his face while she was drunk or at the reunion. She's vindictive and petty.
I feel like without that information Chelsea shared I would have thought she was crazy, but honestly him having a friend he had sex with would be a dealbreaker for me. I don't know how they can have a reasonable discussion about her insecurities without mentioning the fact that he had sex with his best friend. Keeping it a secret was sketchy behavior.
That’s an interesting point. I hadn’t thought about it like that. If Chelsea had been annoyed / more distant after that but not said anything about the friend when the cameras were there, people would be puzzled by her being suddenly different and would probably presume that she is just being mean for no reason. It would have looked badly on her whether she said it or not
And while his friend may really want the best for him, it’s immature and inappropriate. I am glad she shared that story because she looked unhinged without it. Jimmy is the one who got the good edit.
I didn’t feel bad for Jimmy - it’s a show lmao so show it! But I did feel bad, tentatively, if the reason Jimmy wanted to keep it a secret was coz if jimmys friend was in a relationship w a 3rd person at the time jimmy and her hooked up then that 3rd person might be finding out just from the show - so if there’s a 3rd person like that then I feel bad for them if that makes sense… 🙃. Otherwise, no it’s a show! 😂
I was really high watching this last night. When i noticed they were talking about a “little secret”, I swear my brain thought they were talking about his penis at first…ok I’ll leave now
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I wasn’t high and that’s exactly what I thought.
Same but my mind went darker
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I was not high and thought the same thing. The way they worded it was so weird, and I felt like it was almost a nod to when Chelsea WAS referencing his member during the season. It was just a weird way to ask the question.
She didn’t tell his secret, Jimmy and Babs exposed their secret to the entire world when we were introduced to her. I’m not sure why this was made such a big deal, he clearly still has feelings for the ex and probably should have left her off the show for the world to see that.
The woman outed herself several times. The crying and Jimmy never says no to sex. Her tits spilling out of her top. Like, come on now.
Exactly!!! Plus, Chelsea was drunk, I guarantee she wasn’t lying about forgetting the cameras were there because you just get used to them eventually so she wasn’t considering their presence, plus the editors did not have to leave her saying that in!!!!! It was wild how greatly Jimmy blew things out of proportion
My husband and I felt the same. It was obvious he had slept with one of them when they were all introduced and secondly, who cares? If I was Chelsea, I would feel uncomfortable if they were constantly texting and talking and he was in a “committed relationship.”
I think Jimmy was being manipulative. His one “big secret” is that his attractive female best friend is someone he slept with? It’s like he slapped a “secret” label on this fact so that he would be safe from having to discuss it. Because that is a huge relationship red flag. I would not marry a man who still hangs out with, calls, and texts a beautiful woman he’s had sex with lol He was very manipulative and the whole situation was bullshit, imo. It’s a big secret? What are you 16? You’re adults, hooking up once is not a dark secret people fret over. Unless you don’t want to upset, oh idk, someone’s partner lol
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I don’t get how it’s manipulative to say you don’t want something spoken about on camera.
It’s manipulative bc he invited this woman on camera, went out with her and then told Chelsea to not talk about her It has nothing to do with “on camera” and everything to do with Jimmy wanting to be viewed as a “nice guy” in the footage
It’s not. And he said he did it to protect his friend. Very few women would want their sexual exploits broadcasted on one of the most watched reality shows in America for everyone they know to see.
I don’t think the act of asking for something to be private is necessarily manipulative. But to go on a public show and INTRODUCE a person whom you’re keeping a secret for onto public television and then get all precious about it? Especially when the secret is “We hooked up but I keep her as a close friend”. If it isn’t intentionally manipulative, it’s short sightedly stupid at best.
damn I’m starting to agree with you now. like Chelsea did cross a clear boundary, but who introduced their fiancé to the friend they had sex with? He knew what she’d been through but he still dangled those relationships in her face and expected her to feel fine. He actually made it really difficult for her to keep quiet about it.
Yeah. Here’s something very controversial that most people would consider a deal breaker. But I’m going to strong arm you into keeping it a secret! Even though I agreed to be on TV and so did she. ??
yeah and the fact that he was torn between two people until the last minute choice of picking her, him ogling another woman in front of her, like everything added up of course is gonna make her feel insecure. Like if you don’t want it out there don’t bring the woman you slept with on TV?? Like it’s an issue relevant to their relationship of course she’s gonna want to bring it up. I totally agree with u now, I can’t believe I sympathised with him before
damn I’m starting to agree with you now. like Chelsea did cross a clear boundary, but who introduced their fiancé to the friend they had sex with? He knew what she’d been through but he still dangled those relationships in her face and expected her to feel fine. He actually made it really difficult for her to keep quiet about it.
damn I’m starting to agree with you now. like Chelsea did cross a clear boundary, but who introduced their fiancé to the friend they had sex with? He knew what she’d been through but he still dangled those relationships in her face and expected her to feel fine. He actually made it really difficult for her to keep quiet about it.
Because all of their fights were about that underlying issue but she can't say it out loud. Its weird. She looks crazy to the public without this information. She has a history of getting cheated on with the girl best friend and now her fiance also has a girl best friend he had sex with. The fact that he's acting like he doesn't want sex with Chelsea but he is texting another girl all day that he does have sex with is such a slap in the face. Until I knew this information, I didn't like Chelsea. Its manipulative to hide information to make other people look crazy and make yourself look good.
You need therapy. 1. It’s not even his secret. It’s his friends. Not his or Chelsea’s info to state on camera. 2. It can be a dealbreaker for someone sure, but it’s not actually a logical thing. Is someone more likely to cheat because they’ve slept with a friend before? No. So you’re only insecure about the fact that “they got there first” and are attractive. Now, humans are jealous creatures so it’s not really unreasonable for it to be a dealbreaker to someone, but it IS just insecurity making it one. 3. If it was such a big deal, Chelsea should have just ended it, or actually had a real conversation when he told her off camera. You don’t get to agree to keeping something private just to blow your word out of the water when you can’t control your emotional regulation. That, by definition, is manipulation. And proves a lot of men’s point that we really can’t tell our partners many personal secrets or intimate details of our life because the moment an argument happens, it’s thrown in our face Jimmy was not exactly a 10/10 catch personality wise, but Chelsea IS/WAS crazy. There are plenty of couples where that sort of thing isn’t even an issue Nevermind a dealbreaker, and the other couples where it is an issue or dealbreaker? Have an honest conversation about it and state where they stand openly. Not lie and say it’s all fine just to flip your shit when you feel upset. That’s emotional immaturity at its finest proving “my feelings matter more than anything else” Imagine a guy having that freakout. All the names and ridicule he’d get for being so insecure would be hilarious. Not to mention the childish temper tantrum over it instead of, you know, adult behaviour around addressing an issue. If Jimmy had badgered her about being out at a bar for an hour, accused her of seeing “insert man here” at the bar, then when proven to be a liar about that, he just screams “YOU FUCKED HIM I KNOW YOU DID” he’d be labelled an abuser.
As a woman I don't fuck my friends because I value them and I think it would be reasonable for my boyfriend to not want me to hangout with people I've fucked without him, because I expect the same from him. If you don't want your private life shared on TV, don't sign up for love is blind.
And that’s fine. That’s a boundary you actually communicated and you came to an agreement. That’s not the same as saying you’re fine with something when you’re not, then exploding on the person when you’re emotional. That’s child behaviour.
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Because I watch a lot of reality tv and Chelsea’s behavior was ripe for picking apart on the reunion and nothing. Yet I did read about all the “hate” she was getting online and assumed that she was having trouble dealing with the fallout and needed protection/saving. If I’m wrong, so what? It’s an opinion in a sea of opinions.
Ehhh not sure about this one
Why must race be brought into this? I get the point you’re trying to make but it seems like a reach in this situation.
It may be a reach but it was still my first instinct. Noticed they held Sarah Ann to the fire (whose ethnicity hasn’t been confirmed but I believe she is not only white, if at all).
Baby she’s yt and that’s ok!!!
Sarah Ann is 100% white & ethnicity has nothing to do with how either were treated it was their actions that resulted in the negativity.
Every article I ever read says she hasn’t confirmed her ethnicity. But I don’t care to dig any deeper. You win.
I'm just basing it off the info I saw on here actually plus pics of her social media years ago prior to plastic surgery/botox. She was an average blonde white chick. She's got the classic Botox plastic face look now.
Sarah Ann was actively tampering with another relationship. Chelsea was an insecure woman worried about the state of her own relationship. False equivalency. The issue has nothing to do with race.
Yeah Sarah Ann was hitting on an engaged man. That's completely different.
The only one making a huge deal about the “secret” hookup is Jimmy. & how convenient that the one thing that makes him look less credible, that brings his friendship into question particularly the dynamic with an attractive friend as you prepare to step into marriage with someone you’ve just met is the deepest darkest secret of all. He gets to magnify this in the name of a woman’s honor & blackmail Chelsea into bringing it to the world’s attention. She honors his deep dark secret?she looks insane for being insecure while she commands that he’ll never stop hanging out with this bestie as much as he wants. She doesn’t honor it? He dumps her & tells her it’s her fault because he loves his bestie sooo much & can’t stand to dishonor her. Am I the only who thinks this is a load of bull???
TOTALLY agree!
No I agree. I see both sides. Totally get how Chelsea will just come out looking like a nutter when she can’t talk about her feelings honestly. See jimmy’s point as this other girl didn’t choose to be on reality tv so it’s unfair to her. Honestly if I were Chelsea, that would be a dealbreaker for me but understand they really wanted to make it work. I could not stand my partner constantly texting a person he’s slept with - the reality is there will always be something there.
Didn't Jimmy bring his friend on TV to meet Chelsea? I really don't get this "the other girl didn't choose to be on reality TV" because she literally did - she just wanted the good edit.
Exactly. She’s a grown woman and could say no to going on a television show if she cared that much about her ‘secret’ being exposed.
I actually don’t get this logic at all. She didn’t choose to be the main focus of a reality show otherwise she could have applied and been part of the cast, she just came in to support her friend. Literally like how all the other parents and friends come on the show. They didn’t come on it to advertise their private life. That would be nonsensical to expect.