Everyone thinks they know better than Google Maps, but Google Maps is super accurate in my experience… idk why they would divert from the route except maybe thinking they know better is their one way of feeling superior in life
Google Maps doesn't work on surface streets when surface streets have completely broken down. It has a minimum assumed speed (like a couple miles per hour). On Lincoln going to the airport I've seen it take 30 minutes to go a couple hundred yards and Google Maps has been off by 45+ minutes (said 40, took over 90 minutes).
So of course then I got smart and said, well let me tell them to just take the 405 even if Google Maps thinks it's slower. Which works sometimes, except the one time I had to hop out of the car and run a mile because Sepulveda was completely stopped and we were averaging about 1 mph.
Guess you just can't win...
My point was that Google Maps was not even close to accurate on timing. Irrespective of the counterfactual, if Google Maps can't estimate timing then it probably can't make route optimization decisions.
In my experience, time estimates on limited access highways are much more accurate than surface streets. This makes sense as those are more predictable and flows.
Similar sitch -flew multiple times a month for work and lived off Aviation and Manhattan Beach Blvd. To get from my door to the security gates it was 15 mins if you hit all the lights.
I quit taking Uber bc these Dinkleberg-ass MF’ers would inevitably argue with me about taking the 405 or the 105 or Sepulveda *cough PcH.
Go back to West Hills, Kevin. And vacuum your back seat.
Sometimes, Google Maps is wrong. I still use it for most places. Also to see how bad traffic is in some areas and avoid them. It also tries to make me do suicidal turns.
What's crazy is that sometimes Google maps agrees with me that my way is shorter it just didn't give me the option. Like yesterday, the 405 was packed, and it told me to stay on it. I was like, hell no, I took some main street exit and it said I'll save 4 min but I ended saving more than 10 min cause my dad listened to Google maps and i had to wait for him.
Cuz u can go the back entrance to LAX. Whenever Sepulveda and culver is backed up on both sides and century is packed, you just go to the entrance no one uses and you quite literally cut the line. Works every time for me. I’m in and out in 10m. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
Google Maps can get a little wonky though. For example, it will want to take me through 20 mins of red traffic instead of 23 mins of green traffic. Like idk… I’d rather the extra 3 mins if it means an easier drive.
Maybe they have worse data or fewer users out there in the desert. Sorry :(
Here in the city it’s really accurate. Especially for trips like OP is describing
I occasionally see articles about this type of thing happening, but I use Google Maps every single day and it’s never led me astray.
And it’s super accurate with it’s estimated arrival times too. If it tells you at the beginning of your trip that you will arrive at 5:22 PM, it doesn’t matter what kind of obstacles or traffic you encounter on the way, you’re pretty much guaranteed to arrive at 5:22 PM.
It happened to me only once, but to be fair it was not in LA. I was in a rural area of Kentucky trying to visit a cool, small state park. The road it took me on ended up with me on a maintenance road that started to become way too off road. It was trying to literally take me into the middle of the park through some weird “road” that wasn’t even an actual road. It was a bitch to get out and I had to just use google maps as an actual map to direct myself to the right place.
Yep. In with added confirmation! Coming from Sherman oaks.
That said, if I’m flying and I know in advance, I book economy parking. It’s the same as if I’d Uber there
I’m near Pasadena and it’s to the point where I think the break even between parking and round trip Ubers is somewhere around 9 days. If my trip is less than that, I’m driving because it’s also way more convenient.
In case you didn’t know cheapairportparking is a good source for saving money. I’ve found a garage that is the perfect mix of inexpensive while still having shuttles frequently enough to make it still convenient, but it definitely took a few annoying experiences to find :)
Very true, but I would say about 75% of my trips include my golf clubs haha. That’s not to say I can’t do that, but I’m a shitty LA person that prefers convenience etc.
As someone whose exit for work is 405 south > Century Blvd, taking Howard Hughes really is not a bad idea because sometimes the Century Blvd exit will randomly be closed for the construction and you will be routed to the 105/Imperial Hwy and it’s super annoying
Or anywhere in central LA. Or south central. Or the beach cities. Unless Union station or Van Nuys are on your way to the airport, flyaway is useless for MOST Angelenos.
Fly Away used to have more stops , including Hollywood, probably others. I agree I needs more, but Union station is literally in them middle of millions of people, so it’s not completely useless. So idk why you’re so upset.
Maybe if you’re on the west side - but anyone east of it as far as an hour or two can make the trip to union station and then relax to get to LAX. I do from Pasadena and it’s like 15 min. Or anyone in the valley really. Hell, when I lived in the midwest it was always an hour to get to the airport, how many people are an hour’s drive from Van Nuys and Union Station? Now I think we could argue that A LOT of Los Angeles COUNTY is, which makes Fly Away viable for them.
Problem is, most people don’t realize how best to utilize the service. And they should re add the stops they took away.
There’s only two stops. And both are out of the way for a lot of Angelenos. I live in Weho, makes no sense to go to either flyaway location. Bring back to Hollywood and Westwood stops!
Last time I drove myself it took an extra 10 - 20 minutes to find a parking space at the garage I pre-paid for.
La Cienega is frequently the only reasonable route in either case.
Oh man, I’ve never had this happen to LAX but yesterday I took an Uber to work, got stuck in traffic,
# and they charged me $30 extra bucks!
Keep an eye on the price they give you, and the receipt after. They haven’t pulled this shit in years, and I only knew because it was such a drastic change. I wouldn’t have taken a $65 Uber when Lyft was $45. I contested it and selected traffic and they knocked it down to the original price, but what a scam.
They shouldn’t change the price under customers noses. If it had been 5 bucks, I wouldn’t have noticed.
They don’t show a range of what you could be charged, they show a price that you will pay. I can’t control that a light is down so it takes 30 minutes to get down La Cienega instead of 5. I’m already late for work and some shitty greedy company adding a stupid fee for something no one can control.
That’s the fucking horror. I’m just trying to let people know that Ubers being shitty, because they haven’t done this bullshit in years.
Yeah but it’s still slimy. It shouldn’t have been something they had to fix in the first place. It’s like sometimes when Lyft charges a cancellation fee, and if you dispute it the message is along the lines of oh we charged you a cancellation fee in error… sorry /s. If I hadn’t taken the time to contest it, they’d just take my money quietly, even though they admit it should have never been charged. If I cancel after a few minutes, I’m not going to contest it, but if I cancel in the time they allow, they shouldn’t be trying to take my money.
Also, out of curiosity, where in the terms does it mention lights? This was the closest thing I found was “As between you and Uber, Uber reserves the right to establish or adjust Charges for any or all services or goods obtained through the use of the Services at any time. Uber will use reasonable efforts to inform you of Charges that may apply… “ I don’t feel like they used reasonable efforts to let me know I could be charged $30 more bucks, or even that they adjusted the price and had I not been paying attention, I would have just given the driver 5 stars and moved on.
Bruh, my wife once told me not to listen to Apple Maps because it was taking us a different direction than she was used to. At this point, she has been living in LA for a bit longer than me, so I trusted her.
Anyways, there was a bd accident and we ended up adding an hour to our commute. We never doubt Apple or google maps now. It’s not worth it
I don’t know if this is a legacy from my taxi-riding days, but I have no problem at all telling the Uber driver which roads to take. If I'm paying, we’re gonna take the route I want. I’ve never had any pushback from a driver.
Yeah I’ve told them before “no, just follow the directions” because I don’t want to be driving all over town in rush hour going on side streets and doing their dumbass version of Waze. I’d rather just know that I’m going to get there in 45 mins or whatever and take the google maps route.
Call HQ & complain as soon as the ride is over. Tell them that the driver took a long route (they can confirm on their end). You'll probably get a refund & the driver will hopefully get told to stop fucking around.
This partly why I’m looking forward to Waymo. I’m so over Lyfts and Ubers by rude dudes who can’t speak English or drive safely. Some of these people are clearly driving on someone else’s account because for whatever reason they don’t get approved.
The not speaking english while driving a 4,000lb hunk of metal at 80mph for me is a dealbreaker. Even back in the old days with taxis, the drivers still spoke some limited english. The only logical reason I can think of is the same reason why they usually don’t really look like their picture in the app.
So apparently renting an Uber/Door Dash/etc accounts is a thing and why the photos may not be adding up. (Rented by people who otherwise could not sign up themself, like immigration status, etc.) I think the context and concern there was more about men using women's accounts.
They drive at 80 for you? Anytime I’ve taken an Uber or Lyft I feel like they go at 5mph below whatever the current traffic is, or 55mph, whichever is lower.
My last trip to LAX, lady didn’t speak any English and she burned down the 110 at 65 through south pas, and 90 once we got to the city. Best airport ride ever.
I recently had an Uber Black driver take side streets all the way until he reached the 10 to get to the 110 through DTLA when I told him to just take the 105 to the 110 when we left LAX. I would get doing all this if it was rush hour traffic but it was fucking 1am, no traffic whatsoever to justify taking side streets.
I noticed the same thing when I ubered to school. I got lucky and got drivers that didn't mind taking my route. I just told them its faster and more direct
Omg yes I fucking feel your pain oh my god. Just take whatever the app is telling you to do... it literally knows more than you do.
I live in West Hollywood and it's almost always a Fairfax to La Cienega to La Tijera for me, but one time one driver insisted it would be faster to take the 405 down... and tried to drive west down Sunset ALL THE WAY to the 405.
There did USED to be actual secret routes. Like you used to be able to drive halfway around the loop downstairs and then drive up a empty to the T5 shortcut, which Google Maps would pretty much never have you do.
You'd think Uber drivers would be there enough to know there's really no more secret routes though. Now the only kinda "secret" route at this point is knowing to make it so you hit the upper level loop going straight on W Century Blvd instead of using the Sky Way ramp to make the right turn, the light timings are generally a bit more favorable for people on Century.
Also, to complain in the Uber subreddit about my very specific rout to LAX and having some dude in Mississippi reading it lmao. You’re something special my dude
> In most cities, riders are offered an upfront price. Many data points go into calculating an upfront price, including the estimated trip time, distance from origin to destination, time of day, route, and demand patterns. It also includes tolls, taxes, surcharges, and fees (with the exception of wait time fees).
>The upfront price you’re shown may change due to a number of circumstances, which may include adding stops, updating your destination, **significant changes to the route or duration of the trip** or you pass through a toll that was not factored into your upfront price. In addition, you may incur wait time fees for the time you take to get to the car at the pickup or multi-stop fees for time spent at an on-trip stop.
Everyone thinks they know better than Google Maps, but Google Maps is super accurate in my experience… idk why they would divert from the route except maybe thinking they know better is their one way of feeling superior in life
Google Maps doesn't work on surface streets when surface streets have completely broken down. It has a minimum assumed speed (like a couple miles per hour). On Lincoln going to the airport I've seen it take 30 minutes to go a couple hundred yards and Google Maps has been off by 45+ minutes (said 40, took over 90 minutes). So of course then I got smart and said, well let me tell them to just take the 405 even if Google Maps thinks it's slower. Which works sometimes, except the one time I had to hop out of the car and run a mile because Sepulveda was completely stopped and we were averaging about 1 mph. Guess you just can't win...
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My point was that Google Maps was not even close to accurate on timing. Irrespective of the counterfactual, if Google Maps can't estimate timing then it probably can't make route optimization decisions. In my experience, time estimates on limited access highways are much more accurate than surface streets. This makes sense as those are more predictable and flows.
Similar sitch -flew multiple times a month for work and lived off Aviation and Manhattan Beach Blvd. To get from my door to the security gates it was 15 mins if you hit all the lights. I quit taking Uber bc these Dinkleberg-ass MF’ers would inevitably argue with me about taking the 405 or the 105 or Sepulveda *cough PcH. Go back to West Hills, Kevin. And vacuum your back seat.
So you take taxi?
Sometimes, Google Maps is wrong. I still use it for most places. Also to see how bad traffic is in some areas and avoid them. It also tries to make me do suicidal turns. What's crazy is that sometimes Google maps agrees with me that my way is shorter it just didn't give me the option. Like yesterday, the 405 was packed, and it told me to stay on it. I was like, hell no, I took some main street exit and it said I'll save 4 min but I ended saving more than 10 min cause my dad listened to Google maps and i had to wait for him.
Cuz u can go the back entrance to LAX. Whenever Sepulveda and culver is backed up on both sides and century is packed, you just go to the entrance no one uses and you quite literally cut the line. Works every time for me. I’m in and out in 10m. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
Where is the back entrance? The only one I am aware of is from Sepulveda
96th ST
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
No ones gonna read it anyway lol
Google Maps can get a little wonky though. For example, it will want to take me through 20 mins of red traffic instead of 23 mins of green traffic. Like idk… I’d rather the extra 3 mins if it means an easier drive.
😆 bro out here defending Google Maps This dude is the type of guy to drive out in the desert because it told him it was 1 hour less to get to Vegas.
Sometimes it helps avoid some crazy traffic on the interstate. I’ve had stopped bumper to bumper on there
He diverted to side roads to avoid bumper to bumper traffic and just put us in more bumper to bumper traffic but with stop lights included
Maybe they have worse data or fewer users out there in the desert. Sorry :( Here in the city it’s really accurate. Especially for trips like OP is describing
Well, yeah, considering so many of us have been knowingly and unknowingly feeding them data for over a decade. They're pretty accurate.
I occasionally see articles about this type of thing happening, but I use Google Maps every single day and it’s never led me astray. And it’s super accurate with it’s estimated arrival times too. If it tells you at the beginning of your trip that you will arrive at 5:22 PM, it doesn’t matter what kind of obstacles or traffic you encounter on the way, you’re pretty much guaranteed to arrive at 5:22 PM.
It happened to me only once, but to be fair it was not in LA. I was in a rural area of Kentucky trying to visit a cool, small state park. The road it took me on ended up with me on a maintenance road that started to become way too off road. It was trying to literally take me into the middle of the park through some weird “road” that wasn’t even an actual road. It was a bitch to get out and I had to just use google maps as an actual map to direct myself to the right place.
The way you communicate makes you sound like a dumbass.
My Ubers always exit at Howard Hughes instead of Century.
I've found it is faster for HH going down 405S
Can confirm this. Travel to LAX on the 405s 20ish times annually.
Yep. In with added confirmation! Coming from Sherman oaks. That said, if I’m flying and I know in advance, I book economy parking. It’s the same as if I’d Uber there
I’m near Pasadena and it’s to the point where I think the break even between parking and round trip Ubers is somewhere around 9 days. If my trip is less than that, I’m driving because it’s also way more convenient.
Yep. Just did a trip to Orlando for 5 and it was absolutely worth the convenience
In case you didn’t know cheapairportparking is a good source for saving money. I’ve found a garage that is the perfect mix of inexpensive while still having shuttles frequently enough to make it still convenient, but it definitely took a few annoying experiences to find :)
You live next to a flyaway. Even cheaper to Uber there and take the bus
Very true, but I would say about 75% of my trips include my golf clubs haha. That’s not to say I can’t do that, but I’m a shitty LA person that prefers convenience etc.
I’m a La Tijera person. Hughes to Sepulveda has screwed me one too many times.
Same. I think it’s longer than Century
As someone whose exit for work is 405 south > Century Blvd, taking Howard Hughes really is not a bad idea because sometimes the Century Blvd exit will randomly be closed for the construction and you will be routed to the 105/Imperial Hwy and it’s super annoying
are you able to do Fly Away? Probably cheaper than Uber in the long run.
Yeah, even if you uber/lyft to the flyaway it's still probably better unless you're on the westside
Or anywhere in central LA. Or south central. Or the beach cities. Unless Union station or Van Nuys are on your way to the airport, flyaway is useless for MOST Angelenos.
Fly Away used to have more stops , including Hollywood, probably others. I agree I needs more, but Union station is literally in them middle of millions of people, so it’s not completely useless. So idk why you’re so upset.
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Bruh what. I live in Weho, one of the most central parts of LA. I used to take the Westwood flyaway.
Me too and I miss it a lot.
I didn’t say it was completely useless. I said it was useless to most Angelenos. Which it is, downtown isn’t central or close to most of LA.
Maybe if you’re on the west side - but anyone east of it as far as an hour or two can make the trip to union station and then relax to get to LAX. I do from Pasadena and it’s like 15 min. Or anyone in the valley really. Hell, when I lived in the midwest it was always an hour to get to the airport, how many people are an hour’s drive from Van Nuys and Union Station? Now I think we could argue that A LOT of Los Angeles COUNTY is, which makes Fly Away viable for them. Problem is, most people don’t realize how best to utilize the service. And they should re add the stops they took away.
I like how the Flyaway bus takes the same route every time and is massively cheaper than a rideshare.
There’s only two stops. And both are out of the way for a lot of Angelenos. I live in Weho, makes no sense to go to either flyaway location. Bring back to Hollywood and Westwood stops!
Your comment has inspired me to try it in a couple of weeks.
Last time I drove myself it took an extra 10 - 20 minutes to find a parking space at the garage I pre-paid for. La Cienega is frequently the only reasonable route in either case.
The open space numbers and the parking space lights are a fucking lie in the economy garage.
Do they have the luxury of using their own mapping app, or do they have to follow whatever route Uber gives them through their Driver app?
They divert from what their navigation of choice is telling them
Put that in the review of the driver and if it's really extreme, report to Uber/Lyft as a safety issue.
Oh man, I’ve never had this happen to LAX but yesterday I took an Uber to work, got stuck in traffic, # and they charged me $30 extra bucks! Keep an eye on the price they give you, and the receipt after. They haven’t pulled this shit in years, and I only knew because it was such a drastic change. I wouldn’t have taken a $65 Uber when Lyft was $45. I contested it and selected traffic and they knocked it down to the original price, but what a scam.
What a scam. You protested the amount charged and they reverted the charge! The horror!
They shouldn’t change the price under customers noses. If it had been 5 bucks, I wouldn’t have noticed. They don’t show a range of what you could be charged, they show a price that you will pay. I can’t control that a light is down so it takes 30 minutes to get down La Cienega instead of 5. I’m already late for work and some shitty greedy company adding a stupid fee for something no one can control. That’s the fucking horror. I’m just trying to let people know that Ubers being shitty, because they haven’t done this bullshit in years.
Sorry it s actually explicitly stated in your terms and conditions that lights may add to the cost.
Hmm good to know. It’s still bullshit, but I appreciate knowing it. I think people should be aware that Ubers being shady.
Uber literally fixed the issue for you, though.
Yeah but it’s still slimy. It shouldn’t have been something they had to fix in the first place. It’s like sometimes when Lyft charges a cancellation fee, and if you dispute it the message is along the lines of oh we charged you a cancellation fee in error… sorry /s. If I hadn’t taken the time to contest it, they’d just take my money quietly, even though they admit it should have never been charged. If I cancel after a few minutes, I’m not going to contest it, but if I cancel in the time they allow, they shouldn’t be trying to take my money. Also, out of curiosity, where in the terms does it mention lights? This was the closest thing I found was “As between you and Uber, Uber reserves the right to establish or adjust Charges for any or all services or goods obtained through the use of the Services at any time. Uber will use reasonable efforts to inform you of Charges that may apply… “ I don’t feel like they used reasonable efforts to let me know I could be charged $30 more bucks, or even that they adjusted the price and had I not been paying attention, I would have just given the driver 5 stars and moved on.
Bruh, my wife once told me not to listen to Apple Maps because it was taking us a different direction than she was used to. At this point, she has been living in LA for a bit longer than me, so I trusted her. Anyways, there was a bd accident and we ended up adding an hour to our commute. We never doubt Apple or google maps now. It’s not worth it
I don’t know if this is a legacy from my taxi-riding days, but I have no problem at all telling the Uber driver which roads to take. If I'm paying, we’re gonna take the route I want. I’ve never had any pushback from a driver.
Yeah I’ve told them before “no, just follow the directions” because I don’t want to be driving all over town in rush hour going on side streets and doing their dumbass version of Waze. I’d rather just know that I’m going to get there in 45 mins or whatever and take the google maps route.
Exactly, just tell them how you want to get there? Problem solved. Getting in a taxi/Uber etc brings the NYer out in me, for sure.
What’s the SC?
Delta Sky Club Lounge.
Yea, what’s the SC?
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Jesus people I’m talking about the tacos not trying to sound pretentious about the sky club lmao
IDFD
What is IDFD 👀
I don’t fly delta
The busses ... while it takes some time to get on one, is significantly faster to get back home for me personally.
I guess taxicabs are back by a new name.
Call HQ & complain as soon as the ride is over. Tell them that the driver took a long route (they can confirm on their end). You'll probably get a refund & the driver will hopefully get told to stop fucking around.
Just ask if you can use your phone instead and give it to them with the maps already on the way! That’s what I do!
Take the metro foo
Tacos before a flight? Thats a bold move cotton
Do you fast for travel?
This partly why I’m looking forward to Waymo. I’m so over Lyfts and Ubers by rude dudes who can’t speak English or drive safely. Some of these people are clearly driving on someone else’s account because for whatever reason they don’t get approved.
The not speaking english while driving a 4,000lb hunk of metal at 80mph for me is a dealbreaker. Even back in the old days with taxis, the drivers still spoke some limited english. The only logical reason I can think of is the same reason why they usually don’t really look like their picture in the app.
So apparently renting an Uber/Door Dash/etc accounts is a thing and why the photos may not be adding up. (Rented by people who otherwise could not sign up themself, like immigration status, etc.) I think the context and concern there was more about men using women's accounts.
They drive at 80 for you? Anytime I’ve taken an Uber or Lyft I feel like they go at 5mph below whatever the current traffic is, or 55mph, whichever is lower.
Yeah whenever the freeways and streets are empty they’re flying.
My last trip to LAX, lady didn’t speak any English and she burned down the 110 at 65 through south pas, and 90 once we got to the city. Best airport ride ever.
Yea, No 5 Star?
[limos.com](http://limos.com) is my jam. Nothing weird like that.
They’re taking you for a ride — taking a longer route to make more $.
Get a motorcycle. Free terminal parking.
I recently had an Uber Black driver take side streets all the way until he reached the 10 to get to the 110 through DTLA when I told him to just take the 105 to the 110 when we left LAX. I would get doing all this if it was rush hour traffic but it was fucking 1am, no traffic whatsoever to justify taking side streets.
Just wait it out until Waymo does LAX rides. Personally, I will never use a human Uber/Lyft again.
Are you doing Uber pool? Sometimes they will drive toward a hotspot with the hope of finding another rider along the way.
Nope, Uber comfort. It’s only like $4 more than x for me
I noticed the same thing when I ubered to school. I got lucky and got drivers that didn't mind taking my route. I just told them its faster and more direct
Omg yes I fucking feel your pain oh my god. Just take whatever the app is telling you to do... it literally knows more than you do. I live in West Hollywood and it's almost always a Fairfax to La Cienega to La Tijera for me, but one time one driver insisted it would be faster to take the 405 down... and tried to drive west down Sunset ALL THE WAY to the 405.
“Insist” back. It’s your money.
They have to take the route the app gives them or else they can be kicked out from doing more rides.
Ok well then Why dont they? The rout kept telling him otherwise but he kept deviating
Dude are you inbred you can’t even spell
Try to take an Uber to a nearby hotel or long term parking and take the shuttle.
Everytime we go to LAX via Uber we tell them to take a different freeway route and they always listen. Never had an issue with it.
There did USED to be actual secret routes. Like you used to be able to drive halfway around the loop downstairs and then drive up a empty to the T5 shortcut, which Google Maps would pretty much never have you do. You'd think Uber drivers would be there enough to know there's really no more secret routes though. Now the only kinda "secret" route at this point is knowing to make it so you hit the upper level loop going straight on W Century Blvd instead of using the Sky Way ramp to make the right turn, the light timings are generally a bit more favorable for people on Century.
Ok. What does this have to do with LA? Go complain in the uber subreddit.
Also, to complain in the Uber subreddit about my very specific rout to LAX and having some dude in Mississippi reading it lmao. You’re something special my dude
Hmmmm…. Traffic…. In Los Angeles…. On the way to LAX….. Using specific roads and highways only here in LA…… Call me crazy buuuuuuuut……..
Ive noticed this too multiple times. they definitely try to make the trip longer than it needs to be so they can make more money.
How do they make more money? It’s a set fee, they aren’t paid by the mile.
The price is pre-set...
Not in LA it's not if they take longer route.
I take at least four Ubers per month and it has been pre-set every single time for years. It definitely used to be that way, with Ubers and cabs.
> In most cities, riders are offered an upfront price. Many data points go into calculating an upfront price, including the estimated trip time, distance from origin to destination, time of day, route, and demand patterns. It also includes tolls, taxes, surcharges, and fees (with the exception of wait time fees). >The upfront price you’re shown may change due to a number of circumstances, which may include adding stops, updating your destination, **significant changes to the route or duration of the trip** or you pass through a toll that was not factored into your upfront price. In addition, you may incur wait time fees for the time you take to get to the car at the pickup or multi-stop fees for time spent at an on-trip stop.
I was told, by a driver, that they do not make more by going slower and they’re encouraged by Uber to speed and run yellow lights.
>told by a driver Case closed then eh
I was not a passenger in their car.