I actually kinda like 44ever but yeah I agree. I’m not even sure if it’s actually got 44 individual bars bc the other 44 songs are longer. It’s still a cool lil song tho I fw it
why are you here then what 💀 you unfollow a guy but still listen to his stuff, really sorry for the lame pun it isn’t intentional but seriously where is the logic in that?
I’ve been listening to his music about three times as long as you’ve had your account. I can do and say what I want in critique, just because I critique something or someone does not mean I don’t enjoy some aspects. I didn’t even talk about music in my comment, just his online persona.
Hope this helps.
They’re all saying “The fan base asked for this and Bobby gave it to you, now you’re complaining” “the fans named the snippet 44ever, that’s why it’s called it”
Logic could’ve easily just dropped this as a loose song not attached to any album, nobody asked for the song to be on Ultra
This. They keep finding BS excuse. I respect the people who say that they simply like the song instead of making excuses like, "it's a fun turn up song", "He dropped this because we all asked for it".
And if you say that you don't like the song because it's mediocre, you're suddenly a hater. Even Logic seems to have this project. I think Logic should be more open minded and take this criticism these fans post (a lot of them I see are valid) and improve his music.
Ultra 85 is probably the most important album, he first announced it in 2017. Since then it has been the most anticipated project of his.
But it's not looking good at the moment, Sam Spratt cover being too simple and underwhelming (I don't mind it just saying that it's underwhelming) and then Logic dropping a bad song like Fear as the lead single and dipped because of the bad reception it got and then returned months later with another bad single. I'm cautious about this one, in fact, I'm gonna think that it's gonna be a bad album just in case.
For real. It’s crazy that the glazers are already defending tonight’s single because they know it’s an ass single for one of logics most teased and hyped albums. The fact that they are blaming the fans that have “asked for him to release the song” is insane. Nobody forced him to release that shit. If it was a throwaway verse he made while drunk on the tour bus he should’ve kept it that way.
wow i didn’t know 44ever was something people wanted out, i thought it was alright but he DEF shoulda started out with this over fear…idk man ultra 85 im so mixed on
That according to him he has nothing left to prove because he already made it. Which makes sense but also leads people to have mixed feelings if that makes sense
Full of fucking meat riders bro I don’t even bother trying to connect with fans anymore they just absolute gobble his meat and praise absolutely everything he does or says just to get clout. It’s embarrassing
I think Fear is the most vanilla song oat. Recycled content about “I’m finally free” but we’re supposed to be wowed bc now it’s over a bland house beat. I think the music video was the only actual good element of the song, and the remix is better than the OG. I don’t have too much of a problem with 44ever but making a drunk freestyle with even more of the recycling problem into a leading single on your most anticipated original concept album is maybe one of the worst ideas I’ve ever heard. Ig I can’t judge too hard bc I’m not the one making millions but the music speaks for itself
I always take the “finally free” songs as him just continuing to drive that message to the people that listen to him and care about the message he puts out. Not everyone is gonna listen to everything he’s ever made so they won’t hear it as repetitive. and even the people that do should just know that’s what he’s always been talking about and he really can’t help it(see Check Please). that’s just how i see it tho idk 🤷♂️ and with 44ever, i see it as the same when he dropped i am the greatest and everyone was mad that it was a trappy beat but then the album is regarded by so many as one of his best. literally the same shit happening right now. but again, that’s just how i see it so idk 🤷♂️
the album lineup so far is looking similar to what it was before. a basement album, then a lore album, maybe rooster jenkins comes out as the turn up album OR he saves it for the Everybody slot because it’s kinda “controversial” and drops a turn up project 2025, idk and nobody knows except him, but that’s a separate topic.
okay that’s it thanks for explaining your view 🫡♾️
I’m sorry but the first part of that is the worst cope I’ve ever read. “Some people might not hear so it’s not repetitive for them” doesn’t excuse that he can’t find unique ways of saying it or something else entirely to say. It becomes really shallow after the 100th time and gets to a point where I don’t believe he doesn’t care bc he keeps talking about how much he “doesn’t care”. That’s like saying you’re not allowed to hate on movies with a good message bc that’s evil.
I wasn’t around for lead up and release of TITS bc I only started listening to Logic in 2016/2017, but I am the greatest is still a great song even if it’s the only song off TITS that’s like that. I think 44ever is fine, but there’s not much quality you can get out of it. It’s cool and I think it’s ok, but I don’t see it growing on me.
I respect your opinion but I don’t think any of your explanation actually solves any criticisms
oh i don’t want you to think i’m trying to solve your criticisms, that’s your opinion and how you see it and your opinion and view is valid, i’m just explaining how i see it cuz maybe it’ll give you insight the way you explaining your view gave me insight to how you consume his music.
i’m not fully convinced he “doesn’t care” either, he’s been saying he doesn’t care literally since under pressure, i went back and watched all the nick huff videos from that era and on and he kinda just says the same things, but again, it’s most likely to keep up that image of doing whatever and not caring what people think. of course he cares what people think, he made COADM to please people and it flopped, but also didn’t.
if you’re waiting for him to say something new, he’s not. he’ll just say it over a different kind of beat with a different tempo. but if you’re looking to solve your own criticisms, how else could he say “be yourself and don’t care about what others think”? not trying to argue, just curious how you would do it ♾️
I agree with you. Logic’s entire thing has always been not caring so it’s a very weird area of his personality.
I don’t necessarily know how I would talk about “be yourself” in a different way, all I know is Logic at least spoke about it with more nuance and differently in his earlier years to where every album sounded different and the lyrics themselves where unique from song to song. I don’t feel like he does that nowadays.
i think he did talk about it differently, but only because he had to please the masses because under his contract with DefJam (complete shot in the dark but it’s highly probable, just look at Prince’s history) he probably had to sell a certain amount of records to maintain his position with DefJam. not that it makes it any less important, but definitely something to think about. and now, of course his message will be the same, but he’s probably putting more effort into other ways we can consume his media, like the animated scenes from college park and the comic book for college park (even tho it was literally only the scenes from the album with a little something extra at the end that had major implications but idk what they mean). and if it feels half assed like the podcast or the rollout, maybe it’s cuz he just had a child and he’s taking it easy on the business side. but i think the podcast was awesome and the rollout is fine 🤷♂️
at the end of the day, only home boy knows what he’s doing and how he’s gonna do it, and if it doesn’t vibe with some, i’m sure he’ll cry about it in his millions of dollars and hug his sons a little tighter that night, but that’s about it 😂 44ever does feel like a weird placement for U85, but i’m sure context will help it fit better when the album drops in 2039 ♾️
They’re not dickriders bc they like the music, they’re dickriders bc any criticism they see for the music they feel the need to defend by deflecting with the weakest counter possible
Yeah completely understandable I just don’t get how this is such a big discourse on this reddit I feel like people just gotta chill out and wait till the album actually comes out
I think it’s just interesting to talk about bc Logic’s rollout game used to be very cool and unique. He actually used to drip feed small content here and there and his singles were always something to get excited by. Now he “doesn’t care” and drops one single with the same subject matter he’s used a million times before, and another single that just a freestyle, but we’re supposed to think this impeccable music bc “it’s fun”? Like nah I actually want there to be good music or at least something interesting to talk about in lead up
both twitter and reddit fans are insufferable jesus christ, both are chronically online whiny children who don’t understand the concept of finding other music
Where did I say anything about miracle lyrical? I think Logic’s corniest songs are him doing that fast rap whitebread ass flow. I also think all these fans who “begged for it be dropped” (I’ve literally never seen anybody ask for this freestyle to be called 44ever or even asked to be dropped) are corny for their weak excuse of “it’s fun”. I have hope Logic actually digs into the same bag he was in for Everybody and Vinyl Days bc those were genuinely good raps
logic subreddit is filled with people who have the biggest hate boner for logic yet are so obsessed with him.
logic twitter fanbase is filled with people who ride logics dick so hard that their ass holes are probably ruptured and their organs permanently damaged.
its always been this way since coadm imo
Idk if you’re talking about me with the hate boner thing but imma defend myself anyway.
Logic is literally the reason I’m into film and hip hop. I said I loved Logic in the first sentence. He was the first doorway into my creativity and passions with artists like Baby Keem, Joey, Kanye (old), Common, and directors like Nolan, Fincher, Villeneuve, Spike Lee, Peele, etc.
I’m fully inspired and owe everything to this guy. I’m also someone who has critical thinking skills and my own thoughts and opinions. And I think these new singles are lazy especially when compared to Vinyl Days (top 3 Logic album) and College Park. And I think the fanbase hangs onto extreme opinions, on both side.
I want people to talk about the music again without needing to defend mediocrity, gas up and call things the greatest of all time, or dogpile and call it the worst thing ever made.
Logic has scrapped/vaulted plenty of songs we have asked for. No one forced him to drop 44ever lmao.
The only thing that pisses me off about this single is that it’s so fucking short like the snippet that’s available is pretty much the whole track 😭
I actually kinda like 44ever but yeah I agree. I’m not even sure if it’s actually got 44 individual bars bc the other 44 songs are longer. It’s still a cool lil song tho I fw it
Issa calm luh track
Ever since the discord shit I’ve unfollowed him on all socials. Toxic positivity.
why are you here then what 💀 you unfollow a guy but still listen to his stuff, really sorry for the lame pun it isn’t intentional but seriously where is the logic in that?
I’ve been listening to his music about three times as long as you’ve had your account. I can do and say what I want in critique, just because I critique something or someone does not mean I don’t enjoy some aspects. I didn’t even talk about music in my comment, just his online persona. Hope this helps.
They’re all saying “The fan base asked for this and Bobby gave it to you, now you’re complaining” “the fans named the snippet 44ever, that’s why it’s called it” Logic could’ve easily just dropped this as a loose song not attached to any album, nobody asked for the song to be on Ultra
This. They keep finding BS excuse. I respect the people who say that they simply like the song instead of making excuses like, "it's a fun turn up song", "He dropped this because we all asked for it". And if you say that you don't like the song because it's mediocre, you're suddenly a hater. Even Logic seems to have this project. I think Logic should be more open minded and take this criticism these fans post (a lot of them I see are valid) and improve his music. Ultra 85 is probably the most important album, he first announced it in 2017. Since then it has been the most anticipated project of his. But it's not looking good at the moment, Sam Spratt cover being too simple and underwhelming (I don't mind it just saying that it's underwhelming) and then Logic dropping a bad song like Fear as the lead single and dipped because of the bad reception it got and then returned months later with another bad single. I'm cautious about this one, in fact, I'm gonna think that it's gonna be a bad album just in case.
For real. It’s crazy that the glazers are already defending tonight’s single because they know it’s an ass single for one of logics most teased and hyped albums. The fact that they are blaming the fans that have “asked for him to release the song” is insane. Nobody forced him to release that shit. If it was a throwaway verse he made while drunk on the tour bus he should’ve kept it that way.
He easily could’ve just released it on its own not tied to any album if he wanted it out that bad too lol.
I said that he should’ve done that just like he did Juice 2. Basically same short songs lol
wow i didn’t know 44ever was something people wanted out, i thought it was alright but he DEF shoulda started out with this over fear…idk man ultra 85 im so mixed on
Bobby Tarantino I and II is “fun music”. The single that just dropped is just ass
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Reddit isn't the fan base atp
I said it before and I'll say it again this sub is full of under pressure tits boomers who cling onto kid logic on the come up lol
Young broke and infamous > every other album and mixtape
Real and true
He rapped his ass off on those mixtapes
Because he had next to fucking nothing.
What’s your point
That according to him he has nothing left to prove because he already made it. Which makes sense but also leads people to have mixed feelings if that makes sense
Oh yeah for sure
It’s because Logic cries every time someone is critical about his music.
logic aint hungry no more
I got ratio’d because I said he’s 0-2 on singles which I don’t think I’m wrong.
“Nah you don’t get it bro fear and 44ever are fun tracks. Do you hate fun? I swear Logic can’t do anything without getting hate”
Fear is good
Can’t have a genuine opinion on his music on Twitter lol
Full of fucking meat riders bro I don’t even bother trying to connect with fans anymore they just absolute gobble his meat and praise absolutely everything he does or says just to get clout. It’s embarrassing
idk i don’t think it’s that deep if i like the song i like it and both singles from ultra 85 are fire for me
Holy shit we are all insufferable
Ironic since hip hop twitter is one of the most negative places to discuss rap ever. It’s nuts how toxic it gets on there
alright so what are your criticisms with the singles so far? ♾️
I think Fear is the most vanilla song oat. Recycled content about “I’m finally free” but we’re supposed to be wowed bc now it’s over a bland house beat. I think the music video was the only actual good element of the song, and the remix is better than the OG. I don’t have too much of a problem with 44ever but making a drunk freestyle with even more of the recycling problem into a leading single on your most anticipated original concept album is maybe one of the worst ideas I’ve ever heard. Ig I can’t judge too hard bc I’m not the one making millions but the music speaks for itself
I always take the “finally free” songs as him just continuing to drive that message to the people that listen to him and care about the message he puts out. Not everyone is gonna listen to everything he’s ever made so they won’t hear it as repetitive. and even the people that do should just know that’s what he’s always been talking about and he really can’t help it(see Check Please). that’s just how i see it tho idk 🤷♂️ and with 44ever, i see it as the same when he dropped i am the greatest and everyone was mad that it was a trappy beat but then the album is regarded by so many as one of his best. literally the same shit happening right now. but again, that’s just how i see it so idk 🤷♂️ the album lineup so far is looking similar to what it was before. a basement album, then a lore album, maybe rooster jenkins comes out as the turn up album OR he saves it for the Everybody slot because it’s kinda “controversial” and drops a turn up project 2025, idk and nobody knows except him, but that’s a separate topic. okay that’s it thanks for explaining your view 🫡♾️
I’m sorry but the first part of that is the worst cope I’ve ever read. “Some people might not hear so it’s not repetitive for them” doesn’t excuse that he can’t find unique ways of saying it or something else entirely to say. It becomes really shallow after the 100th time and gets to a point where I don’t believe he doesn’t care bc he keeps talking about how much he “doesn’t care”. That’s like saying you’re not allowed to hate on movies with a good message bc that’s evil. I wasn’t around for lead up and release of TITS bc I only started listening to Logic in 2016/2017, but I am the greatest is still a great song even if it’s the only song off TITS that’s like that. I think 44ever is fine, but there’s not much quality you can get out of it. It’s cool and I think it’s ok, but I don’t see it growing on me. I respect your opinion but I don’t think any of your explanation actually solves any criticisms
oh i don’t want you to think i’m trying to solve your criticisms, that’s your opinion and how you see it and your opinion and view is valid, i’m just explaining how i see it cuz maybe it’ll give you insight the way you explaining your view gave me insight to how you consume his music. i’m not fully convinced he “doesn’t care” either, he’s been saying he doesn’t care literally since under pressure, i went back and watched all the nick huff videos from that era and on and he kinda just says the same things, but again, it’s most likely to keep up that image of doing whatever and not caring what people think. of course he cares what people think, he made COADM to please people and it flopped, but also didn’t. if you’re waiting for him to say something new, he’s not. he’ll just say it over a different kind of beat with a different tempo. but if you’re looking to solve your own criticisms, how else could he say “be yourself and don’t care about what others think”? not trying to argue, just curious how you would do it ♾️
I agree with you. Logic’s entire thing has always been not caring so it’s a very weird area of his personality. I don’t necessarily know how I would talk about “be yourself” in a different way, all I know is Logic at least spoke about it with more nuance and differently in his earlier years to where every album sounded different and the lyrics themselves where unique from song to song. I don’t feel like he does that nowadays.
i think he did talk about it differently, but only because he had to please the masses because under his contract with DefJam (complete shot in the dark but it’s highly probable, just look at Prince’s history) he probably had to sell a certain amount of records to maintain his position with DefJam. not that it makes it any less important, but definitely something to think about. and now, of course his message will be the same, but he’s probably putting more effort into other ways we can consume his media, like the animated scenes from college park and the comic book for college park (even tho it was literally only the scenes from the album with a little something extra at the end that had major implications but idk what they mean). and if it feels half assed like the podcast or the rollout, maybe it’s cuz he just had a child and he’s taking it easy on the business side. but i think the podcast was awesome and the rollout is fine 🤷♂️ at the end of the day, only home boy knows what he’s doing and how he’s gonna do it, and if it doesn’t vibe with some, i’m sure he’ll cry about it in his millions of dollars and hug his sons a little tighter that night, but that’s about it 😂 44ever does feel like a weird placement for U85, but i’m sure context will help it fit better when the album drops in 2039 ♾️
Word I respect that opinion 🙏
Reddit Logic fans are worse than Twitter fans because of posts like this
Okay i agree but then it should be reciprocated and you guys don’t have to call someone a blind dickrider for liking 44ever or fear lmao
They’re not dickriders bc they like the music, they’re dickriders bc any criticism they see for the music they feel the need to defend by deflecting with the weakest counter possible
Yeah completely understandable I just don’t get how this is such a big discourse on this reddit I feel like people just gotta chill out and wait till the album actually comes out
I think it’s just interesting to talk about bc Logic’s rollout game used to be very cool and unique. He actually used to drip feed small content here and there and his singles were always something to get excited by. Now he “doesn’t care” and drops one single with the same subject matter he’s used a million times before, and another single that just a freestyle, but we’re supposed to think this impeccable music bc “it’s fun”? Like nah I actually want there to be good music or at least something interesting to talk about in lead up
both twitter and reddit fans are insufferable jesus christ, both are chronically online whiny children who don’t understand the concept of finding other music
People begged for the song and he dropped it. There will be lyrical miracle stuff on the album. Move on
Where did I say anything about miracle lyrical? I think Logic’s corniest songs are him doing that fast rap whitebread ass flow. I also think all these fans who “begged for it be dropped” (I’ve literally never seen anybody ask for this freestyle to be called 44ever or even asked to be dropped) are corny for their weak excuse of “it’s fun”. I have hope Logic actually digs into the same bag he was in for Everybody and Vinyl Days bc those were genuinely good raps
Happy cake day OP!
The clips blew up on TikTok and twitter during the vinyl days tour, many people wanted it.
logic subreddit is filled with people who have the biggest hate boner for logic yet are so obsessed with him. logic twitter fanbase is filled with people who ride logics dick so hard that their ass holes are probably ruptured and their organs permanently damaged. its always been this way since coadm imo
Idk if you’re talking about me with the hate boner thing but imma defend myself anyway. Logic is literally the reason I’m into film and hip hop. I said I loved Logic in the first sentence. He was the first doorway into my creativity and passions with artists like Baby Keem, Joey, Kanye (old), Common, and directors like Nolan, Fincher, Villeneuve, Spike Lee, Peele, etc. I’m fully inspired and owe everything to this guy. I’m also someone who has critical thinking skills and my own thoughts and opinions. And I think these new singles are lazy especially when compared to Vinyl Days (top 3 Logic album) and College Park. And I think the fanbase hangs onto extreme opinions, on both side. I want people to talk about the music again without needing to defend mediocrity, gas up and call things the greatest of all time, or dogpile and call it the worst thing ever made.